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Message started by 223fan on 09/19/12 at 16:27:01

Title: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by 223fan on 09/19/12 at 16:27:01

I want one for my bike can any of you good folks recommend a site to buy one from.Thanks

Title: Re: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by Cavi Mike on 09/19/12 at 16:44:16

eBay.

Title: Re: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by ToesNose on 09/19/12 at 17:05:00

193B2C331733313F5A0 wrote:

eBay.

+1 ;)

Title: Re: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by Oldfeller on 09/19/12 at 21:29:10

$16.00 bucks with free shipping seems to be the low price right now.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Suzuki-LTZ-400-LTZ400-Fuel-Gas-Petcock-Valve-Switch-Pump-ATV-Quad-Four-Wheeler-/221043795497?pt=Motors_ATV_Parts_Accessories&hash=item33773ca629&vxp=mtr

http://thmb.inkfrog.com/thumbn/mjzee/FP2-5.jpg

http://thmb.inkfrog.com/thumbn/mjzee/FP2-2.jpg

Title: Re: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by lacon on 09/20/12 at 02:17:00

Oldfeller,
I have made a note to get a Raptor petcock but have not followed thru yet as I'm still O.K. with the OEM.
There are two models - a long body & a short body. I had noted that I need the long body (Raptor 660). If I'm not mistaken, the one you referenced is the short body (Raptor 400). Does it really make a difference?

Title: Re: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by Oldfeller on 09/20/12 at 03:46:59

You got it backwards, we need a longer body model. There are several, but only the short ones don't provide enough finger room to clear the flange on the gas tank.

The one I posted is a long body model. The petcock is an after market part and this one is being sold for a Raptor 440, but if you could find a listing for the 660 it would be the same petcock that is being sold for both.

Of course they will sell the same petcock for a 240, and an 80 too, they don't care .....

http://thmb.inkfrog.com/thumbn/mjzee/FP2-5.jpg

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Here is a short body petcock so you can see the difference.

http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mdaiT25c1H8fadYlGSx2CsQ.jpg

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.... now, which one is this one? yup, a petcock pop test ....

http://thumbs2.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/m2oAY7pX-4b8WZiLRj8Cdow.jpg

Title: Re: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by ToesNose on 09/20/12 at 03:57:19

I don't know what the 400 is, but I purchased and installed the Yamaha Raptor 660 as refered to from this link-
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1251932429/1

Title: Re: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by Oldfeller on 09/20/12 at 04:06:36

Ebay didn't sell the petcocks cheap back then like they do now.

Heck, back then the Yamaha stock petcock sold for $17, now it is getting on to doubling that price.

Title: Re: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by lacon on 09/20/12 at 04:14:15

Thanks for clearing me up on that Oldfeller.
I think I'll go ahead & get one to have on hand when the tank is off.

Title: Re: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by Dave on 09/20/12 at 04:50:40

I got my official Yamaha Raptor Petcock from Ron Ayers.
http://www.ronayers.com/ProductDetails/N/687/SKU/808680

I just don't trust the aftermarket Chinese stuff.

Title: Re: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by Oldfeller on 09/20/12 at 05:46:08

Ron's price is still pretty good at $18.46, but shipping will add another $7 to that.

Chinese make the stock parts too, they build the Savage engine at LiFan Industries in China as they do the Honda Rebel engine.

Motorcycle engine parts are globalized pretty much now days.

Title: Re: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by ToesNose on 09/20/12 at 06:30:23

The stock Yamaha parts are manufactured in China anyways Dave, and the bikes are put together in Indonesia these days not even Japan =/

The aftermarket Raptor petcock might even be made in the same plant by the same company that makes them for Yamaha :o

Title: Re: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by Dave on 09/20/12 at 07:27:56

744F45536E4F5345200 wrote:

Aaaaack!!!!!
What is this world coming to when even a Japenese bike is not made in Japan.....that is just downright un-American?

I was also shocked when I read that some of the KTM engines are made in India.

Title: Re: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by ToesNose on 09/20/12 at 12:04:46

I lived in India for a little while, it was fun :)

Title: Re: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by rl153 on 10/05/12 at 09:44:28

I just bought one of these petcocks(LTZ-400). These aren't vacuum petcocks,are they?

Title: Re: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by rfw2003 on 10/05/12 at 09:49:37

7B72617E797226252E2E170 wrote:

I just bought one of these petcocks(LTZ-400). These aren't vacuum petcocks,are they?

If it's the one OF linked to, no it's the Chinese knock off of the Yamaha Raptor petcock, so it's the manual one that you need.

R.F.

Title: Re: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by rl153 on 10/05/12 at 09:52:54

Thanks,it was the one OF linked to.

OF Hey, do us a favor and if you would, please report on installation and use of that Chinese clone of the Raptor when it gets to you and you put it on the bike.

It is easy to spot them on Ebay, but until one is actually installed on a Savage the question of "complete suitability" still remains.

Title: Re: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by tomw on 10/05/12 at 15:29:47

Got mine for MRcycle.com order many things for them fast service dont know about their prices when you want to ride you want too ride. I live in MI so this company is faster and cheaper than steelerships in my state.

Title: Re: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by rl153 on 10/06/12 at 10:50:03

Oh ,I thought these were supposed to be decent. I bought it in case mine gives me a problem ,but so far it hasn't . I probably wouldn't have bought it if I knew they were untested . Oh well.

Title: Re: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by Oldfeller on 10/06/12 at 11:56:44

By specs it should be fine -- but we trust after we confirm.

At least hold it up to the stock unit and verify the 2 bolt up pattern distance is correct, because that is the only way it could be screwed up.

Title: Re: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by rl153 on 10/06/12 at 17:44:15

You mean measure with a ruler between the boltholes?

Title: Re: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by redsticksavage on 10/06/12 at 17:51:53

I bought mine, yamaha OEM 5LP-24500-01-00 from boats.net aka powersportsplus.com

Fast shipping

Price paid on 10/3/12 was $17.72 with shipping cost of $6.95.

http://www.boats.net/parts/detail/yamaha/atv/Y-5LP-24500-01-00.html

Title: Re: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by Boofer on 10/06/12 at 19:11:10

Google this: 5LP-24500-01-00 Or get your cycle shop or Yamaha shop to order one. This is the number for the Raptor 660 YFM660R. :)

Title: Re: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by Oldfeller on 10/06/12 at 19:14:34

555C4F50575C080B0000390 wrote:

You mean measure with a ruler between the boltholes?

No, hold the new part up next to the old part, the bolt hole distance will be readily apparent to be "same-same" or different.

Not that we have ever heard of one of these petcocks being bolt hole different, mind you -- but if you are getting one shipped in it would be nice to get a verification check.

I tend to trust Chinese suppliers after verification, something Ronnie Regan used to say about the Russians while they were doing disarmament of their nukes and chemical weapons.

Title: Re: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by rl153 on 10/06/12 at 23:07:15

ok, I think I can handle that.

Title: Re: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/06/12 at 23:15:49

4A6961636069696077050 wrote:

but we trust after we confirm.

How very REaganesque!

Title: Re: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by Wake51 on 10/07/12 at 01:44:14

For OEM parts I tend to like Powersports Plus. Just a recommendation. Listen to these guys for which specific part to get... I'm not sure exactly as of which one... I just know the one they told me to bolt on works. 8-)

Title: Re: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by Oldfeller on 10/07/12 at 04:06:27

And for Ebay purchases, we keep verifying for each new vendor and any time the picture changes (example - these have copper pipes like the real thing, which makes me trust a little more than for the all plastic versions).

Yup, 'ol Ronnie knew how to handle them Russians -- he never got anywhere with them Chinkie Chinesers to speak of, Bush got whatever we got out of them.

Title: Re: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by Gyrobob on 10/07/12 at 21:14:24

71666770776A6068706275626466030 wrote:

I bought two from them as well. They are pretty good.

Title: Re: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by rl153 on 10/09/12 at 09:55:10

OF , I got the chinese petckock today . It looks like the same bolt distance ,I measured it, and they seem to be around 1 3/8" apart to the center of the bolt hole, plus the base has the same shape.The difference is there is only 1 port on the new one and the old one has 2 (I don't mean in the tank ,on the outside). Also ,there is no prime position, only reserve ,on and off . It seems like the mechanism is sturdy and turns smoothly, Hey, I'll give it a shot. But I'm not installing it unless I need to . Thanks.

Title: Re: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by Oldfeller on 10/09/12 at 12:13:29

Cheap $16 Chinese rip off clone petcock is VERIFIED then as "an honorable ancestor" trustworthy vac petcock replacement.

::)

.... for at least $16 worth of "honorable ancestor" trustworthiness anyway ....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Suzuki-LTZ-400-LTZ400-Fuel-Gas-Petcock-Valve-Switch-Pump-ATV-Quad-Four-Wheeler-/221043795497?pt=Motors_ATV_Parts_Accessories&hash=item33773ca629&vxp=mtr

http://thumbs2.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/m2oAY7pX-4b8WZiLRj8Cdow.jpg

Title: Re: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by lacon on 10/09/12 at 12:34:34

I also now have one of the $16 Chinese ones in my tool box. It has (2) 1/4" dia. mounting holes on 1-5/16" centers. The white plastic filter screens are a rather loose fit though. I think a dab of epoxy on them would be a good idea to keep them from slipping off. Or check the existing screens for a better fit.

Remember, the whole idea of using these is to get away from the complications of vacuum operation. Back to the old ways. (Therefore, no vacuum port - manually turn the gas on & off along with the ignition switch)

Lynn

Title: Re: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by rl153 on 10/09/12 at 12:51:22

I rechecked the size of the chinese petcock with a micrometer ,and it seemed to be 3.5 centimeters distance to the centers of the boltholes. The outer edges of the base on the stock suzuki petcock was a mm or two larger,I'm not sue if that matters, but the bolthole distance seems to be the same.They mailed it in an envelope and the brass tube doesn't look absolutely perpendicular to the base ,I don't know if it got a little bent in shipping.Does it matter if there is no prime on there?

Title: Re: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by verslagen1 on 10/09/12 at 13:26:47

prime is the equivalent of on

Title: Re: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by chad levert on 10/09/12 at 13:52:41

no need for raptor petcock, all you need is some golf tees... plug the line on the carb and vacuum line on the petcock and run it on prime, i did this and have had no problems

Title: Re: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by EJID on 10/09/12 at 14:04:44

7A79637F657F777877657760777173160 wrote:

no need for raptor petcock, all you need is some golf tees... plug the line on the carb and vacuum line on the petcock and run it on prime, i did this and have had no problems

but running it on prime leaves you without any "reserve" in your gas tank, so when you sputter out, you are out and can't just switch to reserve :( I always end up switching to reserve, so that would not work for me

Title: Re: Where to get a raptor petcock
Post by Blinky on 10/09/12 at 14:06:37

OF Can't have any of that racial slurring stuff, so I will replace chink-a-clone with "honorable ancestor" to satisfy your enlightened sense of ethnic propriety.

;)

Quote:

an honorable ancestor

OF,
You might want to consider that most folks of Chinese descent (at least the few I know) would consider the term "honorable ancestor" to be nothing more than a racial slur. I don't believe your intent was to be insulting so I might suggest that you find another way to describe a knock off part manufactured in China.

For what it is worth