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Message started by docwho on 09/18/12 at 06:45:48

Title: The small battery swap
Post by docwho on 09/18/12 at 06:45:48

All you guys that have done the small battery swap, do you have any regrets? And what battery did you use? I love the way the bike looks with the battery box gone. 8-)
Cheers, Pat.

Title: Re: THe small battery swap
Post by clearush on 09/18/12 at 12:05:37

I tried the 4 cell lithum and it cratered within 2 weeks I switched to the AGM type battery and its still going strong much nicer for doing carb tweaks since you don't have to take anything off to get the carb off.

Title: Re: THe small battery swap
Post by Cavi Mike on 09/18/12 at 12:33:37


454A43475453554E260 wrote:
I tried the lithum and it cratered within 2 weeks.


Aren't you the one that bought the smallest battery they made? The one clearly stated that it's for starting 250cc motorcycles? And then proceeded to try to sell it to us after you blew it up?

Title: Re: THe small battery swap
Post by Oldfeller on 09/18/12 at 12:44:13

 
I too am following along with interest, as the next battery I get is going into the place my charcoal cannister sits in and I too am losing the battery box and airbox I do believe .....

I may fill up the available space with as large an AGM as will fit into the space though, as I like reserve capacity for cold mornings and such.

Title: Re: The small battery swap
Post by verslagen1 on 09/18/12 at 13:22:38

I've been thinking about that 8 cell battery too.

Title: Re: The small battery swap
Post by LANCER on 09/18/12 at 13:24:34


5C4F5859464B4D4F441B2A0 wrote:
I've been thinking about that 8 cell battery too.


At least the 8 cell

Title: Re: THe small battery swap
Post by clearush on 09/18/12 at 14:12:56


4D6F78674367656B0E0 wrote:
[quote author=454A43475453554E260 link=1347975948/0#1 date=1347995137]I tried the lithum and it cratered within 2 weeks.


Aren't you the one that bought the smallest battery they made? The one clearly stated that it's for starting 250cc motorcycles? And then proceeded to try to sell it to us after you blew it up?[/quote]

Didn't try to sell it, just asked if anyone wanted it for 1/2 price, I never posted it for sale, so no need to be a douche about it.   :(

And yes it is specified for 350 singles and 550 multi street bikes. And it did work for about 2 weeks, and the last two days it became difficult to start not getting solid spark requiring multiple cranks to get it going which helped to run the battery down. I've pulled off my decomp noid and went with the thumb lever I may give it another go and see what happens.

I modified my original post to specify the 4 cell lithium so as to not  confuse it with the 8 cell which I have no experiance.

Some one is trying out the 8 cell but I'm not sure who.

The AGM is 1/2 the price of the lithum battery and not much heavier.

Title: Re: The small battery swap
Post by docwho on 09/18/12 at 14:44:28

I must say the Ballistic evo2 8-cell looks really good, but shipping from U.S to Ireland mail+customs duty could be $200 plus, what a pita. So for me a small AGM battery like what Boul’tard did on his bike will do for me. But half the amps of stock item is a bit of a worry.
Cheers, Pat.      

Title: Re: The small battery swap
Post by ohio thumper on 09/18/12 at 15:18:12

this is the lithium battery i have in my  bike. bit pricey, but havent had any troubles with it.http://https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s720x720/545621_3153922806254_1779900597_n.jpg

Title: Re: The small battery swap
Post by Spamy on 09/18/12 at 17:11:32

Ive got the Ballistic 8-cell in my bike. It works great. Ive been using it for about 4 months and no problems what so ever so far.

I like it, even at the $140 price tag.  At first I was dead set against it for the price, but I bought it as a last minute type of deal and just ate the cost.  

Im really happy I did buy it. Its about 9 lbs lighter than the original and super tiny.


Title: Re: The small battery swap
Post by verslagen1 on 09/18/12 at 18:04:06

http://www.ebay.com/itm/190529686660?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

$104

Title: Re: The small battery swap
Post by Cavi Mike on 09/18/12 at 19:57:22


6D7E6968777A7C7E752A1B0 wrote:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/190529686660?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

$104


I'd jump for the "big" one, the 4s3p battery. That's the one I bought. He ships DHL Air, I got mine in 4 days. It's small enough to fit inside the exhaust bracket.

Title: Re: The small battery swap
Post by residualsilver on 09/18/12 at 21:53:29

Im looking for a small one to replace the brick I just bought... what are the real up sides to a smaller battery and will it work in 30 degree weather?

Title: Re: The small battery swap
Post by rfw2003 on 09/18/12 at 22:48:50


3F212D20203F3C2D3E274C0 wrote:
Im looking for a small one to replace the brick I just bought... what are the real up sides to a smaller battery and will it work in 30 degree weather?


The biggest issues with using a lithium type battery are that the charging system will not correctly and fully charge the battery, and 2 cold weather performance,  once temps reach 32°F or lower the battery's capacity is greatly reduced since the internal resistance of lithium batteries goes up as the temp drops.  If you plan on cold weather riding and using a lithium battery you have 2 options to keep you trouble free.

1.  Make it easily accessible to remove so you can bring it inside with you when parked.

2.  Use the next size up battery from what is suggested from most manufacturers.  In our case I would use a min of a 12cell if you plan on cold weather riding. If it were me and I bought an 8 cell I would follow what I suggested in 1.

As for the real upside to the use of lithium type batteries.  They are much smaller and can be mounted in a hidden place. They weigh much less, even with the price of them it's hard to shed the same amount of weight for the price, and lastly they are a more constant voltage then lead-acid batteries, meaning your starter will actually spin faster with the lithium battery because the voltage drop is very minimal. But when a lithium battery loses charge it drops quickly on the voltage, so if you hit the point that is starts turning slower get that battery on charge or you could lose your investment as lithium batteries don't like being in a discharged state.

R.F.

Title: Re: The small battery swap
Post by Cavi Mike on 09/19/12 at 00:52:37

I was concerned with the low-temp functionality of mine as well so I yanked the heating element out of a  cheap eBay bottle-warmer and wrapped it around the battery. Within half an hour the entire battery is almost too warm to handle. I'm very satisfied.

Title: Re: The small battery swap
Post by RanDaMan on 09/19/12 at 04:48:25


29222E3A25224D0 wrote:
I must say the Ballistic evo2 8-cell looks really good, but shipping from U.S to Ireland mail+customs duty could be $200 plus, what a pita. So for me a small AGM battery like what Boul’tard did on his bike will do for me. But half the amps of stock item is a bit of a worry.
Cheers, Pat.      



ive got the ballistic evo2 8cell and it works awesome! no regrets at all. its a little costly but personally worth it to me. i mounted it on the little "shelf" underneath the bike it fits nice in there. and ballistic is a great company! their customer service is really helpfull! i fried my first one due to faulty installation and they immediately sent me a second one on rush delivery. they def have my business for any battery needs in the future.

Title: Re: The small battery swap
Post by docwho on 09/19/12 at 08:39:26

Hi clearush which AGM battery did you get and what amps is it rated at?
Cheers, Pat

Title: Re: The small battery swap
Post by clearush on 09/19/12 at 19:22:55

Went with a ytz7s battery off ebay. Sepecificaly
http://www.ebay.com/itm/130705489000?item=130705489000&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME:L:OC:US:3160&vxp=mtr there are cheaper batteries and there are more expensive batteries, this one didn't strike me as total chinese garbage and was still a reasonable price so I went with it.

Title: Re: The small battery swap
Post by docwho on 09/20/12 at 05:52:26

Good to no and how long have you being runing that on the bike? Im looking at this one http://www.ebay.ie/itm/BATTERY-CTZ7S-suits-Husaberg-KTM-etc-etc-YTZ7S-nah-NEW-LOWER-PRICE-/261099055429?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3ccab76945#ht_954wt_1163.
Cheers, Pat.

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