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Message started by Greg on 09/14/12 at 05:10:49

Title: NY Times article on Trikes for Old People
Post by Greg on 09/14/12 at 05:10:49

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/14/us/trikes-three-wheeled-motorcycles-on-rise-as-riders-age.html?_r=1&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20120914

Title: Re: NY Times article on Trikes for Old People
Post by Paraquat on 09/14/12 at 06:09:30

I hope I never get old.
I wouldn't be caught dead on one of those things.
6th one back in the picture looks more like a red convertible car than a trike.


--Steve

Title: Re: NY Times article on Trikes for Old People
Post by Cavi Mike on 09/14/12 at 06:46:12

That's gotta annoy the hell out of the Brothers of the Third Wheel.

Title: Re: NY Times article on Trikes for Old People
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/14/12 at 08:24:29

Trikes cost a ton of $$$. The motorcycle effect is gone with the addition of the 3rd wheel on most of them. Mite as well just get on old convertible sports car. That way, if it rains or gets too cold, you can protect yourself. Save a wheel barrow load of $$$ & go the same places. If the wife just cant stand it, pull the seat & put her a bike seat in there to straddle.

Title: Re: NY Times article on Trikes for Old People
Post by Arnold on 09/14/12 at 08:35:03

Oh look a bike for people who are too big to balance themselves :)

Title: Re: NY Times article on Trikes for Old People
Post by Cavi Mike on 09/14/12 at 08:53:08

Seriously. I actually read the article this time around and looked at the picture of that obese idiot with the bright yellow shirt. Maybe his leg wouldn't be bum if it didn't have to carry 150lbs of extra weight on it and I bet the "myriad" of other problems all stem from his obviously clogged arteries from his terrible diet.

Title: Re: NY Times article on Trikes for Old People
Post by verslagen1 on 09/14/12 at 08:59:13

There but for the grace of god go you or I.

yeah, I'd go convertible too.  plenty fun, no helmet.

Title: Re: NY Times article on Trikes for Old People
Post by EJID on 09/14/12 at 11:48:41

How can you even call something like this...a motorcycle...in a previous life?  :-/
(barefoot too  ;D)
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/09/14/us/JP-TRIKE-2/JP-TRIKE-2-popup.jpg

Title: Re: NY Times article on Trikes for Old People
Post by Greg on 09/14/12 at 13:51:53

Then I guess I shouldn't speak of my plans to purchase another Savage for a trike conversion.  :(   I think it would make a great winter/inclement weather vehicle. It would allow me to have the best of both worlds; a minimalistic bike for most of the year and a trike with a windshield and hard luggage for those really crappy days.

Title: Re: NY Times article on Trikes for Old People
Post by Paraquat on 09/14/12 at 16:48:31


0C2E39260226242A4F0 wrote:
Seriously. I actually read the article this time around and looked at the picture of that obese idiot with the bright yellow shirt. Maybe his leg wouldn't be bum if it didn't have to carry 150lbs of extra weight on it and I bet the "myriad" of other problems all stem from his obviously clogged arteries from his terrible diet.


I feel the same way seeing people in Stop and Shop or Walmart on the Rascals.


312235342B2620222976470 wrote:
There but for the grace of god go you or I.


I don't need God to tell me to put the fork down.


--Steve

Title: Re: NY Times article on Trikes for Old People
Post by Greg on 09/14/12 at 17:44:52

Why is weightism acceptable but racism, misogyny, sexism, speciesism, heterosexism, etc is not?

Title: Re: NY Times article on Trikes for Old People
Post by verslagen1 on 09/14/12 at 17:56:13


7E4F5C4F5F5B4F5A2E0 wrote:
[quote author=312235342B2620222976470 link=1347624649/0#6 date=1347638353]There but for the grace of god go you or I.

I don't need God to tell me to put the fork down.
--Steve[/quote]
now you know that's not what I meant  >:(
quite a few of these riders can't put their feet down.

Title: Re: NY Times article on Trikes for Old People
Post by Charon on 09/14/12 at 17:59:55

You do not have to be old or obese to be able to benefit from a trike. Consider many of our returning vets who have lost feet or legs. Consider diabetics who sometimes lose feet or legs from circulatory disorders. There are many illnesses affecting balance, from benign positional vertigo up through other more serious ones. Age takes a toll as well. Few at 60 or 70 are as strong or fit as they were at 20 or 30. Holding up a 900 lb Gold Wing with a 170 lb passenger might not be as easy as one would think.

I had the chance to demo a Can-Am Spyder a couple of years ago, and I am here to tell you it is a totally different experience from my convertible. Before you knock it, try it.

Title: Re: NY Times article on Trikes for Old People
Post by Paraquat on 09/14/12 at 18:29:53


6E6B6C67606A090 wrote:
Why is weightism acceptable but racism, misogyny, sexism, speciesism, heterosexism, etc is not?


I call people out on those things in public.


--Steve

Title: Re: NY Times article on Trikes for Old People
Post by Greg on 09/14/12 at 19:00:08


08392A39292D392C580 wrote:
[quote author=6E6B6C67606A090 link=1347624649/0#10 date=1347669892]Why is weightism acceptable but racism, misogyny, sexism, speciesism, heterosexism, etc is not?


I call people out on those things in public.


--Steve[/quote]
I don't think I understand what you mean by that.

Title: Re: NY Times article on Trikes for Old People
Post by Steampowered Boy on 09/14/12 at 19:16:35

What a bunch of crap; my parents are in their sixties and my mom runs marathons twice a month and my father races motorcross most weekends at Perris or Glen Helen.

It seems like a good choice for people that have given up on life.

Title: Re: NY Times article on Trikes for Old People
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/14/12 at 19:26:42

Not everyone enjoys good health. I was riding a 10 speed around town, & by "around town" I mean I would go to the Southernmost main road & ride Eat to the Easternmost main road & go North to that main boundary, then West then back towards home, hitting some favorite turns along the way when I was 27 & could still break 5 minutes on the mile, then, I got poisoned,, & things havent been good since,

You can have your opinion/attitude toward others if you like, but it doesnt sound to me like you are considering the limitations we find laid on us.;

Title: Re: NY Times article on Trikes for Old People
Post by WD on 09/15/12 at 12:31:42

I'm getting really close to go trike or stay home myself, and I'm only 40. The degenerative joint and disc disease I was diagnosed with 11 years ago is starting to take a toll. Lower back is trashed, discs look like pads of beef jerky (radiologist's wording). Knees and hips are going. Fingers are starting to rotate on their central axis and twist over each other. At full relax my fingers look like they are gripping a motorcycle handset.

It's to the point my L6/3spd in my truck is getting swapped for a later model V8 and slushomatic.

25 years of being on 2 wheels takes a toll, along with the horses, thousands of miles of hiking, military service, farming...

Title: Re: NY Times article on Trikes for Old People
Post by bill67 on 09/15/12 at 12:56:13

I've road a Goldwing trike I really didn't like it.

Title: Re: NY Times article on Trikes for Old People
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/15/12 at 13:28:25

Bill,, what was it about it you didnt like?

Title: Re: NY Times article on Trikes for Old People
Post by arteacher on 09/15/12 at 14:19:25


587F6E6A667B647C6E796E6F4964720B0 wrote:
What a bunch of crap; my parents are in their sixties and my mom runs marathons twice a month and my father races motorcross most weekends at Perris or Glen Helen.

It seems like a good choice for people that have given up on life.

Ahh- the confidence of youth! ;)
Wait till your 60 something, with arthritis, diabetes, emphysema, or what ever else old age will bring, then dis the trikes.
One of my neighbours is a die hard Harley guy. His ankle was smashed in an accident to the point where he walks with a cane and can't ride a bike anymore. He refuses to get e trike.
I have taught a guy with polio to ride a two wheeled bike. He had partial use of his left leg and his right leg was completely paralyzed, with a brace.

Title: Re: NY Times article on Trikes for Old People
Post by WD on 09/15/12 at 14:21:04

I'll take an old 750cc Harley or Indian factory built trike in a heart beat. They are a bit crudely built but pretty near bomb proof.

I'm actually with Bill on Goldwing trikes. The ones I've tried were some kind of boring. Poor handling, bad center of gravity, far too heavy.

Title: Re: NY Times article on Trikes for Old People
Post by bill67 on 09/15/12 at 16:28:32


36292F2835320333033B29256E5C0 wrote:
Bill,, what was it about it you didnt like?

When you go around a corner,Of course it doesn't lean but almost a bounce sideways like feeling when you hit a bump.Its my brothers he paid $12000 to have it none and he likes it.I figure $12000 you have to like it.I had a Goldwing for 5 years so i was used to the bike.I would guess that the front tire would have about half the life of normal bikes.

Title: Re: NY Times article on Trikes for Old People
Post by Steampowered Boy on 09/15/12 at 17:59:03

Well, I am 40 and am an insulin dependent diabetic with a broken kneecap from a car accident in my 20s and a congenital hip issue.  I broke several of my fingers about 15 years ago and can't really bend a few of them anymore.

My mother has beaten cancer a few times and my father just had his shoulder repaired after completely detaching it and having to have surgery a few month ago to reconnect the muscles.

Nothing wrong with owning or riding a trike, but to make the assertion that they since they are "too old" or immobile and it was inevitable that they would get there someday is not true.  They got there by not taking care of themselves and not making the effort when they were younger to avoid it.

Title: Re: NY Times article on Trikes for Old People
Post by Cavi Mike on 09/15/12 at 19:10:53

Did someone here just compare an injured war veteran with a fat piece of sh!t? Please tell me I didn't just read that.

Title: Re: NY Times article on Trikes for Old People
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/15/12 at 21:37:19


5D56535309083F0 wrote:
[quote author=36292F2835320333033B29256E5C0 link=1347624649/15#19 date=1347740905]Bill,, what was it about it you didnt like?

When you go around a corner,Of course it doesn't lean but almost a bounce sideways like feeling when you hit a bump.Its my brothers he paid $12000 to have it none and he likes it.I figure $12000 you have to like it.I had a Goldwing for 5 years so i was used to the bike.I would guess that the front tire would have about half the life of normal bikes.[/quote]


I didnt think Id like it, Im sure Ill never get a chance to find out,
REally didnt expect the "Bounce sideways" part,,
Id go convertible, for sure

Title: Re: NY Times article on Trikes for Old People
Post by arteacher on 09/16/12 at 07:15:57


5476617E5A7E7C72170 wrote:
Did someone here just compare an injured war veteran with a fat piece of sh!t? Please tell me I didn't just read that.


I take great offence to this!!!
My youngest son is 400 pounds, eats less than I do, exercises more than I do, and has a perfectly healthy thyroid.
Some people are just heavy, period.
Don't tar everyone with the same brush. >:(

Title: Re: NY Times article on Trikes for Old People
Post by Cavi Mike on 09/16/12 at 22:27:17

Oh America, where obesity is genetic and homosexuality is a choice.

Title: Re: NY Times article on Trikes for Old People
Post by mpescatori on 09/19/12 at 06:04:59

Hi Arteacher, I believe Cavi Mike was actually referring to what Steampowered boy recently posted.

Going bak to the issue on trikes, I would like to point out a gross bestiality nobody seems to have noticed.

The author of the article stated "Trikes have three wheels, therefore are more stable and thus safer."

:o

Uh... yah, right, whatever...  ::)

Until proven otherwise, a boy's tricycle will CAPSIZE at much slower speeds than a boy's bicycle will lose control.

That's why both Can-Am and Piaggio have designed their three-wheelers with two wheels fore and one aft.

http://www.motocicliste.net/moto/piaggio/Mp3b.jpghttp://www.motorcycle.com/images/content/Review/tn_BRP_IMG_0255.JPG

However, I notice the Bombardier does not seem to lean into corners like the Piaggio MP3 will...

Title: Re: NY Times article on Trikes for Old People
Post by ToesNose on 09/20/12 at 04:36:28

Yea it leans into a turn some   ;D

http://scootershop.bizshop.com.au/images/g2.jpg


Title: Re: NY Times article on Trikes for Old People
Post by mpescatori on 09/21/12 at 00:57:26


340F05132E0F1305600 wrote:
Yea it leans into a turn some   ;D

http://scootershop.bizshop.com.au/images/g2.jpg


THAT, my friend, is NOT a Can-Am, but the Gilera Fuoco, aka Piaggio MP3's bigger brother (500cc single)

8-)

Title: Re: NY Times article on Trikes for Old People
Post by Savage_Rob on 09/21/12 at 07:32:56

I don't know.  I mean, someday I will probably reach the point where my back/hips/legs won't be able to lift a bike if it's down (for whatever reason).  In that case, I think I'd consider a trike instead of not riding at all.  I know they also make what amount to training wheels to help older guys with their bikes but I just don't think I could do those, even though they may be less expensive.

Title: Re: NY Times article on Trikes for Old People
Post by Savage_Rob on 09/21/12 at 07:37:57


2E3326302022372C312A430 wrote:
Hi Arteacher, I believe Cavi Mike was actually referring to what Steampowered boy recently posted.

Going bak to the issue on trikes, I would like to point out a gross bestiality nobody seems to have noticed.

The author of the article stated "Trikes have three wheels, therefore are more stable and thus safer."

:o

Uh... yah, right, whatever...  ::)

Until proven otherwise, a boy's tricycle will CAPSIZE at much slower speeds than a boy's bicycle will lose control.

That's why both Can-Am and Piaggio have designed their three-wheelers with two wheels fore and one aft.

http://www.motocicliste.net/moto/piaggio/Mp3b.jpghttp://www.motorcycle.com/images/content/Review/tn_BRP_IMG_0255.JPG

However, I notice the Bombardier does not seem to lean into corners like the Piaggio MP3 will...

I've seen both up close and they both lean in the same manner.  The Can-Am does have a wider wheelbase.  I sat on both at bike shows but have never ridden either so I can't offer real opinions on the ride or performance.  Both are intriguing options though.  I consider both to be modern, high-tech trikes.

Title: Re: NY Times article on Trikes for Old People
Post by mpescatori on 09/21/12 at 08:37:52

The Piaggio MP3 is a real winner in European metro-suburbia traffic.

Trust me, NYC traffic doesn't even come close !!!

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_axQ8sTLww&feature=related[/media] Piaggio MP3
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK10NDkAg9A&feature=related[/media] PiQuadro is the 4-wheeled alternative by an Italian competitor
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0eOSVMy09M&feature=related[/media] 1st ride by an American newbie  :D
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp26BqSoJ4c[/media] This ride is a bit shaky, and becomes interesting after the 1st minute...
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMI0ue1vWIo[/media] Lane splitters' heaven !!! (I live around here...)
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMWM1Slg_8U&feature=related[/media] Hate this song, looove these monuments !
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZrDAvqA6n4[/media] Around midnight, time lapse, actually going towards my house !

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