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Message started by rl153 on 01/20/11 at 13:20:38

Title: Need Advice on car tire
Post by rl153 on 01/20/11 at 13:20:38

I picked up a nail and went to midas to have it plugged .They told me they wouldn't plug it because it was to close to the edge and I had to get a new tire . Its right on the tread about 1/2 inch from the inside of the rear driver side tire . I got a plug kit and plugged it myself and it's not leaking at all . I just drive this car around town and rarely go on the highay . What do you think,is it safe or not .The tire still has good rubber on it. Thanks!!

Title: Re: Need Advice on car tire
Post by Serowbot on 01/20/11 at 14:42:01

1/2" in?... I think that should be okay...
Midas sucks...

Title: Re: Need Advice on car tire
Post by Boule’tard on 01/20/11 at 15:09:12

I'd run it.. didn't even know there was a restriction on where you can apply the plug, so long as it's on the tread and not the sidewall. I have plugged tires all over the tread and never had a problem. I assume you are using the gummy kind of plugs you double over and stick in w/rubber cement then cut off the excess.

I concur about Midas, they suck big time. You'd think with their supersafe replace-everything technique, their repairs would hold up.. I'd trust an old mayPop tire fixed with a cheap Autozone plug more than a brand new tire put on by a Midas technician.

Title: Re: Need Advice on car tire
Post by rl153 on 01/20/11 at 15:19:55

Thanks guys,I was leaning that way anyway .I think it will be ok.

Title: Re: Need Advice on car tire
Post by buttgoat1 on 01/20/11 at 17:08:18

I agree, it is ok.
The technician probably has to. tell you that for liability reasons.

Title: Re: Need Advice on car tire
Post by sluggo on 01/20/11 at 17:34:44

sounds like a sales pitch to me, and since you only us it for around type of driving i doubt you would suffer a "blow out"

Title: Re: Need Advice on car tire
Post by sjaskow on 01/21/11 at 09:36:08

Just don't forget to check the pressure in the patched tire a little more often. Most blowouts are caused by overheated tires causing the rubber to fail.

I had a Toyota Corolla a decade or so ago that had 4 plugs in a single tire since one of the neighbor kids decided to line up 1/4" screws in a nice straight line in the alley. I never had any issues with it and the car got driven on the highway as well as around town.

Title: Re: Need Advice on car tire
Post by JohnBoy on 01/21/11 at 12:18:42

I have read that you can't plug steel belted tires they have to be removed and patched from the inside? something to do with air getting between the belts.

Title: Re: Need Advice on car tire
Post by Boule’tard on 01/21/11 at 15:16:12

The steel belts have been known to scissor those mushroom shaped rubber plugs in half. That doesn't seem to happen with the monkey-grip type plugs though.

Title: Re: Need Advice on car tire
Post by rl153 on 01/21/11 at 16:37:41

The plug I used was like a 3 or 4 inch rubber strip that you fold in half put in a tool and insert in the hole with some rubber cement on it.I think it was a string repair .

Title: Re: Need Advice on car tire
Post by stinger on 01/22/11 at 01:06:51

I think because its a motorcycle tire and you only have two that keep you from coming apart in pieces if you have a blow out traveling at high speeds, I'd buy a new one. You can get away with it on a car but I'd always be thinking about the plug when riding. A $100 tire is a lot better deal than losing your life maybe.

Title: Re: Need Advice on car tire
Post by stinger on 01/22/11 at 01:07:21

Title: Re: Need Advice on car tire
Post by stinger on 01/22/11 at 01:08:08

no maybe about it. much better deal

Title: Re: Need Advice on car tire
Post by bill67 on 01/22/11 at 06:21:12

I've plug a motorcycle tire and went 3000 miles and never had a problem with it.

Title: Re: Need Advice on car tire
Post by babyhog on 01/24/11 at 06:53:04

We had several plugs in truck tires, no problem. I would plug car tires too.

Motorcycle tires, I wouldn't like it. Although, when I had my new bike tire installed last summer, it had a patch on the inside that I knew nothing about. I got the bike with less than 3000 miles on it, and I had put another 3000 on it when I replaced the tire. If I had known about the patch, I probably would have replaced it sooner... just to make myself not worry about it. More of a mental thing. But it seemed to hold up just fine.

Title: Re: Need Advice on car tire
Post by Boule’tard on 01/24/11 at 07:25:18

I would not try it on a motorcycle tire either, but must admit, have done it and it held up several thousand miles. The tire was brand spanking new and picked up a nail (nnNNOOOOOOOOO!) so I was too frustrated to resist.

Having used the same tool on a car tire, I was surprised at how thin and easy to punch through a motorcycle tire is.. surprised the plug had enough to hold on to. It held fine for 4,000 miles or so. I would not try that again, unless of course I had done an Oldfeller VW tire conversion. :D

Title: Re: Need Advice on car tire
Post by Reelthing on 01/24/11 at 07:29:38

Really can't remember how many rope/string plugs we used along the gulf coast roads after Ike scattered roofing nails all over the place - never heard of one that failed - the side walls flex too much to get a reasonable seal for very long - better than nothing how ever - depending on the circumstance. I still carry a small air comp and tire plugs in all the 4 wheeled vechls that are likely to be driven in the area.

Title: Re: Need Advice on car tire
Post by sluggo on 01/24/11 at 18:22:32

74736E69606275070 wrote:

i believe he was speaking of a car tire, am i correct?

Title: Re: Need Advice on car tire
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/24/11 at 18:46:43

Having read the thread title, Im gonna lean toward a YES on that

Title: Re: Need Advice on car tire
Post by rl153 on 01/25/11 at 08:43:01

Yes ,it was a car tire .The plug is holding.

Title: Re: Need Advice on car tire
Post by sluggo on 01/25/11 at 13:09:32

474E5D42454E1A1912122B0 wrote:

Yes ,it was a car tire .The plug is holding.

and it should hold i've never had on fail

Title: Re: Need Advice on car tire
Post by IN-S40 on 01/25/11 at 14:13:36

I have used that type of plug many times before and in one case in the sidewall, every plug held fine until it was time for new tires...

Darren
IN-S40

Title: Re: Need Advice on car tire
Post by bill67 on 01/25/11 at 16:48:23

676A6740455656414A240 wrote:

I have used that type of plug many times before and in one case in the sidewall, every plug held fine until it was time for new tires...

Darren
IN-S40

+1 and that little plug doesn't know the difference between a motorcycle tire and a car tire.

Title: Re: Need Advice on car tire
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/25/11 at 19:06:25

Ive only seen a coupla plugs fail. They were on the rear & pulled out till they started to leak a bit due to being left a little long & hard acceleration dragged them out, but it wasnt a catastrophic failure, just a slow leak.