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Message started by T Mack 1 - FSO on 01/05/11 at 05:53:30

Title: side benefit of ditching internet explorer (IE8)
Post by T Mack 1 - FSO on 01/05/11 at 05:53:30

Well, with being down sized in December, I finally got time to do some of the To-Do list things. One of which was to put together a better computer for myself. Of course on the Christmas wish list was Windows 7 for it.

Well, after a few days of running Windows 7 and Internet Explorer 8, I found out it has a flaw with Java-scripts. Or maybe I should say that the java programing language hasn't been updated for the security features in Win 7/IE8 combo yet. All I know is that when I clicked on the button to see bigger pictures in the eBay listings nothing happened. The web says it's a known issue(big whoop, fix it). Then, ... yesterday while looking for jobs, I had an error filling out an on-line application that needed the Java-scripts.

SO....... I switched to Firefox web browser (sort of like the old Netscape). Java-scripts work again...... Yea!!! The job search continues.

BUT........SIDE BENEFIT...... Firefox has spell check build in. So, when I do replies here, it underlines my typo's. I can then right click and get corrections or suggestions. I'm so happy.... so much less "modify" clicking.

T Mack

Title: Re: side benefit of ditching internet explorer (IE
Post by MotoBuddha on 01/05/11 at 06:00:20

Welcome to the 21st Century.

Title: Re: side benefit of ditching internet explorer (IE
Post by bill67 on 01/05/11 at 06:03:47

I've always used Netscape,Always faster and better than IE for me anyway.

Title: Re: side benefit of ditching internet explorer (IE
Post by dinsdale on 01/05/11 at 06:21:31

I Use Google Chrome.
Nice , fast, light browser.

Title: Re: side benefit of ditching internet explorer (IE
Post by babyhog on 01/05/11 at 06:59:56

I've used IE for so long, I would be so nervous to try something different. Looked at Chrome, but couldn't give up my IE. Can I run anything along side IE, like a test run? Then go running back if I get scared?

Title: Re: side benefit of ditching internet explorer (IE
Post by bill67 on 01/05/11 at 07:15:58

I have both IE and Netscape on my computer,I can go back and forth to either one,And for me the Netscape is better.

Title: Re: side benefit of ditching internet explorer (IE
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/05/11 at 07:22:52

All ya gotta do is not care & those little red, wavy lines just melt away.

Title: Re: side benefit of ditching internet explorer (IE
Post by MotoBuddha on 01/05/11 at 07:32:22

313C3B2631343930550 wrote:

I Use Google Chrome.
Nice , fast, light browser.

I switched to it last year. I like it a lot. It also has some nice plug-ins.

Title: Re: side benefit of ditching internet explorer (IE
Post by sluggo on 01/05/11 at 07:59:06

i use firefox, safari, opera, i like opera the best.. never a problem

Title: Re: side benefit of ditching internet explorer (IE
Post by T Mack 1 - FSO on 01/05/11 at 08:01:41

7D7E7F72706A130 wrote:

Yes, you can run both. I still have IE8 on the PC but have the Firefox set as the default browser. I used Netscape years ago so wasn't hard to use "Bookmarks" verse "Favorites". Everything else is pretty much the same.

Years ago, IE copy & pasted into MS Office programs better than Netscape (Excel especially). I haven't tried it yet, but still have IE so I can use it for doing that stuff.

Title: Re: side benefit of ditching internet explorer (IE
Post by babyhog on 01/05/11 at 08:26:58

Hadn't thought about trying anything different for a while now, but I guess it wouldn't hurt to look at other options. Thanks.

Title: Re: side benefit of ditching internet explorer (IE
Post by LostArtist on 01/05/11 at 12:38:53

chrome is nice! I haven't used Firefox in awhile, and I use Safari on my mac at work but was giving my home pc fits for some reason, so now I use chrome, wouldn't mind trying opera again . . .

Title: Re: side benefit of ditching internet explorer (IE
Post by Yonuh Adisi FSO on 01/05/11 at 13:59:47

I'll stick with XP pro for my OS, at least it don't need a gig of ram to run the thing. For my browser I always use Mozilla Firefox, it has always worked very well for me and I too love the spell check that comes with using it.

I would love to use a Linux OS but the learning curve to use it compared to Windows is quite large for me and I can never find any equivalent programs to what I use most of.

Title: Re: side benefit of ditching internet explorer (IE
Post by Oldfeller on 01/05/11 at 17:44:20

Try Linux Mint 9.0 and set it up for a dual boot arrangement. This lets you keep your XP/Win7 world completely untouched (gives you peace of mind, it does). Heck, you can run Linux Mint for months on end off a simple live CD startup instead of installing it, it is all the same stuff anyway.

Linux only requires 20-30 gigs of HD space, so you can afford to shrink your Windows partition by 20-30 gigs and then let the Linux live CD recognize the unused space as available and the live CD will do all the heavy lifting for you. http://download.cnet.com/Easeus-Partition-Master-Home-Edition/3000-2248_4-10863346.html is a free partition manager that can shrink your windows partition without losing any data or hurting anything -- very easy to use.

Linux is actually pretty boring ... Linux Mint is very much like XP and it just runs Firefox, Opera, Chrome etc just like Windows does, just without any exciting stuff like blue screens and forced cold boots and my favorite, the unannounced screen lock ups.

What is also missing is the every Tuesday invasion of Microsoft security patches of the week and the bi-monthly attack of the virus/trojan/root kit of the week. And there is no anti-spyware software and stuff running all the time eating up all your processor cycles and systems memory and then asking you to go update it every 2 days.

And there are no adwares -- none. Heck, I miss scraping my adwares every time I used the XP machine. And no having to go Systems Restore every other weekend either.

It's too durn boring, you don't even have to reboot it when you do take the occasional Linux update that you get politely notified is available.

Dull -- Your linux file system doesn't even fragment your files on your hard drive (no defragging needed, ever)

Boring

:D

Title: Re: side benefit of ditching internet explorer (IE
Post by Yonuh Adisi FSO on 01/05/11 at 18:13:03

1E3D3537343D3D3423510 wrote:

I am actually thinking that once I restore my desktop I will put linux on my laptop which is what I am using right now. It is an old Omnibook 6000 with a 900mhz processor, 256 meg of ram, and a 40 gig hard drive. When this laptop first came out windows 2000 was the latest and greatest windows os.

Title: Re: side benefit of ditching internet explorer (IE
Post by Oldfeller on 01/05/11 at 18:55:34

Go download a ISO of Mint 9.0 and iso burn it to a CD using something like Neroburn.

Then drop it in your CD drive and cold boot the laptop.

Inside a half hour you will know if it is gonna autofind all your bits and pieces or not and if it is gonna work flawlessly for you.

Ubuntu is another good'n, just not quite as easy to get into as Mint. Both Mint and Ubuntu come in XFce and similar "smaller footprint" versions that might fit your older machine better (they were actually built for older machines).

The ultimate old box linux is Puppy Linux 5.0 -- and it is really fast even on very old machines. Just not as user easy to utilize (requires you to command line some items).

Puppy will load the entire thing (OS and all programs) into RAM and run it all at ram drive speeds ..... this is the fastest responding machine you will ever see, just not as pretty or as painless as Mint.

Title: Re: side benefit of ditching internet explorer (IE
Post by Yonuh Adisi FSO on 01/05/11 at 19:02:48

684B4341424B4B4255270 wrote:

good idea, thanks for the tip.

Title: Re: side benefit of ditching internet explorer (IE
Post by Boule’tard on 01/05/11 at 19:11:58

6E4D4547444D4D4453210 wrote:

Both Mint and Ubuntu come in XFce and similar "smaller footprint" versions that might fit your older machine better (they were actually built for older machines).

That's the most important part! A lightweight window manager. Linux is great and all, but load it down with KDE or Gnome and it'll run just as slow as windows. I use Fluxbox on this 10 year old computer and it's plenty fast. :D Gotta try Chrome too, I heard it is lighter than Firefox.

Title: Re: side benefit of ditching internet explorer (IE
Post by Yonuh Adisi FSO on 01/05/11 at 19:22:21

Downloading it now. Hope I am getting the correct one. :-[ Downloading both xfce and fluxbox versions. That way I can see which one is best for me.

Title: Re: side benefit of ditching internet explorer (IE
Post by Boule’tard on 01/05/11 at 19:46:47

Do you have an account on linuxquestions.org? That place helped me a lot.

Title: Re: side benefit of ditching internet explorer (IE
Post by Yonuh Adisi FSO on 01/05/11 at 20:06:54

No I don't, but I'll look into it.

Title: Re: side benefit of ditching internet explorer (IE
Post by Yonuh Adisi FSO on 01/08/11 at 20:29:13

Got a new power supply for my desk top and it is working great. My hard drives ain't messed up as I feared they were. It's funny though, I ordered a new 600watt power supply off of ebay and they sent me a new 680watt power supply instead. :) :)

I couldn't get the Linux Mint 9.0 to boot up on my lap top. I made a boot disk out of an ISO file of the OS but my lap top wouldn't boot it up.

Title: Re: side benefit of ditching internet explorer (IE
Post by Boule’tard on 01/08/11 at 20:37:31

Bummer. I have never tried mint. As CD-bootable linux distributions go, I think darnSmall and Knoppix are good. Knoppix has good hardware detection but it's pretty bloated. darnSmall isn't as fancy but runs much faster on an old machine. Good luck with getting er running.

Edit: since we have a cuss filter, replace darn with d4mn of course

Title: Re: side benefit of ditching internet explorer (IE
Post by Oldfeller on 01/09/11 at 15:48:53

Did you do a checksum on the download to make sure it wasn't corrupted in any fashion?

Next, when you burn it, burn at a slower than normal speed with your checking options turned on.

Full bore operating system ISOs have to be perfect in order to work at all and that can sometimes not happen due to cable or line noise, etc.

For the ISO not to try to boot at all signals a bad disc or one that didn't get recognized by your boot bios on your laptop (is your bios set to boot first from the CD drives or does something else boot first, a hard drive or a USB port?)