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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by thumperclone on 11/11/10 at 04:57:51 +1 |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by Phelonius on 11/11/10 at 05:16:17 Down the road there comes a soldier, seventeen, or maybe older. Beneath his grimey uniform, his wounded body tired and worn. Furrowed brow, sunken eyes, beleaguered soul that pondered lies, That brought him here to shed his blood. Mid'st agony and gore and mud. His innocence lay scattered here, across these fields where freedom dear, He'd purchased now with mortal sin, upon a politicians' whim. |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by runwyrlph on 11/11/10 at 05:38:20 Thanks to all the Vets out there! I'm going to see my Grandpa today - we were just talking about his WWII service this past Sunday. It's humbling what these men did and went through. |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by bill67 on 11/11/10 at 05:51:22 Since World War 2 Our veterans haven't fought for our country,they have fought for greedy politicians. |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by babyhog on 11/11/10 at 06:51:48 Many Thanks to all Vets! |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by mick on 11/11/10 at 08:52:48 404B4E4E1415220 wrote:
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by Lupo on 11/11/10 at 09:04:53 Pleiku, Viet Nam 1969. To my brothers and sisters, welcome home. |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by Edgar on 11/11/10 at 10:02:26 202B2E2E7475420 wrote:
But today we honor the heroes. Not the liars and thieves. |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by bill67 on 11/11/10 at 10:12:47 Who do we honor in the Civil War the North or the South,Another senseless war started by Bi Sexual honest Abe. |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by Tanker2Biker on 11/11/10 at 10:51:20 000B0E0E5455620 wrote:
So even a simple THANK YOU to those who chose to serve gets mired in this stuff? How about we just keep the one day to honor these men & women, and then tomorrow you can go back to slamming the govt? |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by Lupo on 11/11/10 at 11:07:51 04313E3B35226066500 wrote:
So even a simple THANK YOU to those who chose to serve gets mired in this stuff? How about we just keep the one day to honor these men & women, and then tomorrow you can go back to slamming the govt?[/quote] I agree 100%. I feel honored to have served at that time and still feel it was right for my country. I was hurt more by the people spitting on soldiers when I returned then by the NVA fighting for what they believed in. Now I'm guilt free and walk proudly. |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by prsavage on 11/11/10 at 11:10:11 +1 to the post right above. |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by babyhog on 11/11/10 at 11:20:14 Yes please, keep this an honorable day. Leave the sarcasm and crap for another day. |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by mick on 11/11/10 at 12:05:20 2221202D2F354C0 wrote:
Do British vets count ? Michael D.Rowe 8 th Royal Tank regiment, nov 54 to nov 57 |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by thumperclone on 11/11/10 at 12:09:18 just rode back from our local service @ the field of dreams memoral in a neighboring town.. static display of a hughey.. good turn out released a flock of white doves(thinkin theyre pigeons).. fly over speeches etc nuttin like "amazing grace" played by 6 bag pipers started rainin behind my sunglasses... |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by Tanker2Biker on 11/11/10 at 13:10:27 6C68626A7569646D686C6478010 wrote:
Do British vets count ? Michael D.Rowe 8 th Royal Tank regiment, nov 54 to nov 57[/quote] Centurions? And YES, absolutley. A Vet is a Vet. I happen to be in Canada this week, so I'm honoring Remembrance Day here, and getting Veteran's day wishes via eMail from my family back in Texas and South Dakota. 3rd Armored Div. and 1st Infantry Div. 74-81 (M60a1's) |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by Lupo on 11/11/10 at 13:35:18 We didn't make the tanks you fired, we made the tanks you fired more deadly. Ordinance 63C20 3rd Armored, 2nd Battalion / 3rd Artillery, Kirch-Gons Germany ;) |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by mick on 11/11/10 at 14:08:07 203D27282D3C4B0 wrote:
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by bill67 on 11/11/10 at 14:19:37 They just said today 5 more years in Afghan,Instead of 1 more year,We are already broke and nothing will be different in 5 years just like Iraq.I spend 2 years in the army was drafted biggest waste of time in my life.And all the guys with me felted the same way.FTA |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by Lupo on 11/11/10 at 14:43:38 Mick, that was an attempt at a play on words from a TV ad. Tanker was with M-60 tanks in a U.S. Army Division in Germany and I was in the same Division as a mechanic. Bill, I'm sure the Army felt the same way about you. I don't believe in having a draft for that reason. |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by Tanker2Biker on 11/11/10 at 16:30:42 5B465C535647300 wrote:
Spent 75-78 on The Rock with the 2nd Bn 32nd Armor |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by Tanker2Biker on 11/11/10 at 16:39:57 73787D7D2726110 wrote:
So your point of putting this in this in this thread is to tell us that since you didn't like your time in the service, we should not honor and thank you and others who served? Give me a break!! Post all this you want in the political section, or start your own thread, but let us say THANKS without all the vitriol. |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by Paladin. on 11/11/10 at 17:00:11 My Father landed on Omaha Beach, 6 June 1944. He never talked about it. My Mother was in the Auxiliary Territorial Service. They were married in Salisbury Cathedral, during WWII. My brother and I were in the service during the Viet Nam War, he was Navy, I was in the Air Force. |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by Charon on 11/11/10 at 18:26:49 bill67 has finally done it. I have had enough. Goodbye. |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by thumperclone on 11/11/10 at 18:37:44 HHB 2/92 FA red devil 8" Howz. nuke (3rd armor,42 f*g) "the zoo" Giessen FRG |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by buttgoat1 on 11/11/10 at 19:10:07 thanks to all who served |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by Trippah on 11/11/10 at 20:43:38 Lupo - small world? I was in pleiku from July 69 to Jun 70 with MACV Team 21. :D |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by Lupo on 11/11/10 at 21:57:59 Trippah, 62nd Maint. Battalion, Camp Schimdt (across from Artillery Hill). MACV...you guys had the Steam and Cream : ) Don't ask how I know. Small world indeed because Tanker and I were at the same Kasern in Germany. He's probably been to Crazy Sexy's : ) Happy Veterans day brothers! |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by mick on 11/11/10 at 23:56:59 Here we go chaps A nice pic of a Centurian , 60 odd tons fully loaded two fuel tanks one with 120 gal,the other 180 gal, and sometimes we pulled a mono trailer with another 180 gal,it could be gotten rid of after use with a small explosive in the hitch, 3 gal to the mile,on a hard surface up to 5 gal per mile on mud. 4 man crew Commander ,gunner,radio opperator and loader, and little ole me as the driver,all on my lonesome.. http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr311/mickrowe37/mytank1.jpg |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by PerrydaSavage on 11/12/10 at 01:26:20 In America Nov. 11th is known as Veterans Day In the UK Nov. 11th is known as Armastice Day Here in Canada it is known as Rememberance Day On the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month of 1918 the guns of WW1 fell silent ... and with the going down of the sun we continue to remember them ... Kaywood Bemister Elliott (d), Botwood, Nfld. - WW2, Gunner - Royal Newfoundland (59th) Heavy Regiment; E.T.O. Samuel James Fiander (d), English Hr. West, Nfld. - WW2, Merchant Seaman; Battle of the Atlantic God Bless all who serve. |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by mick on 11/12/10 at 09:28:04 Perry that baught a tear to my eyes, Something like "the charge of the light Brigade" |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 11/12/10 at 11:28:08 Interesting how Bill brags about getting his VA medical care now on our nickel, isn't it? Bill, your comment sullied yesterday, but I guess you're too old and crotchety to care. Originally U.S. Army, MI. Later USAF. |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by bill67 on 11/12/10 at 11:45:52 Jerry you can get VA medical on our nickel too. |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 11/12/10 at 11:54:59 Bill - Maybe I will someday, who knows what the future brings. But I tell you what - if I ever do, I'll walk in there proudly, not with your attitude about my brothers ( and sisters now ) in arms. Mick - You certainly do count. The Royal Army, Royal Navy, Royal Marines, and RAF have all fought beside us against common enemies for nearly 100 years now - brothers in arms we are. |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by bill67 on 11/12/10 at 11:59:38 Jerry if and when to walk in the VA you will see young soldiers wheeling around in wheel chairs because they have lost a leg or 2,Not a pretty sight,and for why. |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by Lupo on 11/12/10 at 12:22:09 5E5550500A0B3C0 wrote:
The why is for liberty. Something you can't understand because your trapped in your own hatred for America. The majority of those hero's would do it all over again if asked. Some of us understand the freedoms we enjoy are a gift from previous generations who thankfully loved this country more then you do. |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by bill67 on 11/12/10 at 12:30:13 Lupo with the modern medical things they can do today,They can cut your legs off and attach to the soldier so he can enjoy the freedom you have been enjoying.And the why is for profit. |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 11/12/10 at 12:32:11 Lupo - Amen to that - you said it very well. People like Bill just will never get it. Hatred is a cancer that just grows until it consumes one, and Bill is consumed. I had an uncle who waited around during WW II to get drafted rather then enlist. He railed all of his life about how he hated the Army. He never married nor made two nickels to rub together, and when he collapsed of a stroke in the 1970s, they hauled him to a VA hospital when he underwent brain surgery. Unfortunately, he lingered for several months, then the VA buried him in a VA cemetery. I've always had mixed emotions about his lying there for eternity among proud soldiers, sailors, Marines, and airmen who heeded the call of their own volition. I wonder what he would have thought as they played Taps as they lowered him into his grave. |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 11/12/10 at 12:34:54 Bill - You have gone over the deep end and your continued posts on what began as a thread dedicated to honor are simply replusive. Do you even know what Honor means? |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by bill67 on 11/12/10 at 12:44:38 My dad and 4 uncles were in WW2,One was killed,They were all drafted so I guess they weren't much. |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 11/12/10 at 14:53:48 No, Bill, getting drafted has nothing to do with it. What bothers me to this day is my deceased uncle's attitude about having to serve his country. Then, when he was down and out, literally, it was the Army he hated that gave him a final resting place, and took care of him in his last illness. Ironic - you said what you said about your time in the Army, yet it's the VA who cares for you now. |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by bill67 on 11/12/10 at 15:09:10 When the United States is attacked everyone would serve his country,But to go around the world bombing other country isn't right,We shouldn't lose our men for that,And we shouldn't help other countries like we help Israel and Iraq when they fought Iran,Is it any wonder that other countries don't like us.If I remember right Hitler tried that. |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 11/12/10 at 15:18:05 If I recall corrected, there was an attack on 9/11 that killed more people than Pearl Harbor did. You said it correctly - when attacked, all should come to the defense of their country. So, quit all of this nonsense and get behind our attempts to defeat the world-wide attack on civilization by the radical Muslims. |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by bill67 on 11/12/10 at 15:21:56 Jerry did we bomb the country that attacked the trade center. |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 11/12/10 at 16:01:45 Did we bomb Japan first? |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by Trippah on 11/12/10 at 16:01:54 Lupo, unfortunately the steam & cream wasn't opened for very long..I got one visit during which a charming young thing walked up and down my back..errrr almost relaxing. Unfortunately, most of the charming young things were collecting info for the Cong. What us intel guys won't go through for the mission. :o I think we shared a concertina wire fence with you guys..Bob Frost said it made good neighbors but one of your guys missed me by a hair one dark and tedious night. He apparantly went bezerk and started shooting at everyone. A sad evening. As I low crawled back to the bunker line I passed by several claymore mines that had been installed the week before. They were set up facing the bunkers,which not surprisingly, is what you migh expect when you use POW's to set them up. For real, ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by Trippah on 11/12/10 at 16:08:21 Billl67 might not approve of our recent wars, but this thread was a resonable effort to thank the soliers, sailors, marines and airmen/women who have served our country. Like the whack jobs that protest at funerals, some are just so blinded by their cause or hate that they fail to respect even the simplist of decorum. There is a time and place, Bill67 got it wrong this time.(IMHO) of course. |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by bill67 on 11/12/10 at 17:31:01 The simplest of decorum sometimes really gets to me. |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by PerrydaSavage on 11/12/10 at 17:47:39 I consider myself open-minded ... maybe even "Liberal" by American standards (I am Canadian after all) ... but Bill even your sentiments offend my sensibilities ... our Veterans living and deceased deserve nothing more than TOTAL respect for laying down their lives for OUR freedom ... and yes that also means your freedom to disrespect their efforts ... think about that ... |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by Phelonius on 11/12/10 at 18:11:54 All you guys are doing is making Bills day. He is one of those folk who lives for argument whether he believes it or not. Just let this thread rest in peace like our comrades and shipmates Who have gone before us. Phelonius |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by PerrydaSavage on 11/12/10 at 18:20:00 Well said Phelonius ... Amen ... |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by thumperclone on 11/12/10 at 19:13:18 1E2B3C3C372A2F1D2F382F292B4E0 wrote:
+1 bill knows nothing of propriety.. but if invited id stand a flag line at his funeral |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by thumperclone on 11/12/10 at 19:20:58 one of my nephews Brian (married one of my my wife's' niece 2 weeks ago) is now deployed as a marine rifleman in afghanistan.. tyed a yellow ribbon rond the tree and another on the bracket the that holds the flag on my house.. i was a draft dodger in the 70s i enlisted to avoid the draft... |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by bill67 on 11/13/10 at 01:57:35 There is no reason one man should give his life for another man,I see all you people on here weren't the ones that gave your life for your country,No heroes on here. |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by bill67 on 11/13/10 at 07:25:31 No one ask you to disgrace yourself. |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by Paladin. on 11/13/10 at 07:50:54 6C67626238390E0 wrote:
There is no reason to give your life for another. There are reasons to die while trying to kill others. There are reasons to die when trying to save the lives of others, but it is not something you plan to do. No one intends to be a hero, no one wants to be a hero. Heros are victims of accidents. Us here, that served, were none of those heros. Obviously. But we did served, where we may had been placed into a situation where we may had accidently died while helping others. November 11 is the day others thank those who were *willing* to help others. For those who thank us, you're welcome, but we did not do it for just those. We served everyone. Even those pitiful worms sneer at those who served. |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by bill67 on 11/13/10 at 09:27:19 I would say next veterans day spent all day at the VA hosipital those boys would enjoy that. |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by bill67 on 11/13/10 at 10:02:24 2B362C232637400 wrote:
Stupid, ignorant,dull,retard ;D |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by mpescatori on 11/13/10 at 11:07:41 In homage to Mick, and a wink to Bill - who may be griping and complaining, but has the eye to tell the Patriotism of the Folk from the Greed of the Rulers. Take up the White Man's burden - send forth the best ye breed - go bind your sons to exile to serve your captive's need; to wait in heavy harness on fluttered flok and wild - your new-caught, sullen peoples, half devil and half child. Take up the White Man's burden - in patience to abide, to veil the threat of terror and check the show of pride; by open speech and simple, an hundred times made plain, to seek another's profit, and work another's gain. Take up the White Man's burden - the savage wars of peace - fill full the mouth of Famine and bid the sickness cease; and when your goal is nearest the end for others sought, watch Sloth and heathen Folly bring all your hope to nought. Take up the White Man' burden - no tawdry rule of kings, but toil of serf and sweeper - the tale of common things, the ports ye shall not enter, the roads ye shall not tread, go make them with your living, and mark them with your dead! Rudyard Kipling [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_TuctvWUXk&feature=related[/media] Anybody go ask a mother, to which war she'd send her sons to fight. Any mother will tell you she'd rather not see a war in the first place. Amen. |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/13/10 at 11:13:19 & having seen the lies & tricks of the powerful to get the support of the people & get them to willingly send their sons off to "Fighht for our FREEDoms".. when weve not suffered an attack ON those freedoms, except from washington, dc, I live stunned that anyone would support a war. |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by bill67 on 11/13/10 at 13:01:43 757A767C777A717D7A6D787A6D1F0 wrote:
Know we cut off their oil supply so they bombed us,We knew they were going to bomb Pearl Harbor hours before they did.But didn't move the ships or prepare to fight. :o |
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Title: Re: Veterans Day Post by mick on 11/14/10 at 00:07:34 I just finished watching episodes 5-6-and 7 of "Pacific" on HBO, if there is anyone out there who for some reason did not go in the service, I would strongly advise you watch this series,be warned it is very graphic, But it shows what fantastic soldiers these guys were. In the three above episodes they (the US Marines) attacked a tiny island in the Pacific called ,hope I get the spelling right "Peliliu" it had an airstrip that the US needed,they did get it at what seemed terrible loss,I'm sure glad I wasn't there. Every single man deserves a medal. |
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