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Title: tea party Post by mick on 10/20/10 at 12:36:43 Hey,Tea partyers,set an example.Are you on unemployment ? Stop checks today ! Medicare ? Cut up the card. Put up or shut up. |
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Title: Re: tea party Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/20/10 at 14:11:48 585C565E415D50595C58504C350 wrote:
Thats unreasonable. Not that that shocks me, coming from you. Here, allow me to show you right thinking. People who have borne the burden of a contract are legally entitled to the benefits OF that contract. When I say "Lets go back to the Constitution",, youve GOT to know that we GOT here slowly & changing all that needs changed will take time. STOP screwing the American People & work the SS & all that govt aid crap out of the budget over tiome. Isnt it ridiculous that you want the people to suffer MORE? You want to take more away from the people. Lets FIRST stop wasting the fruits of their labors in unjust wars & forweign aid & spending billions on surveilance OF the very people who PAY for the system that watches them.. OKAY?? |
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Title: Re: tea party Post by Starlifter on 10/20/10 at 18:03:06 Tea baggers believe you have every right to practice freedom of religion as long as its their brand of religion. All other beliefs are against freedom of religion because they don't believe in "tea bag Jesus" who starves the lazy and carries an AK-47 so he can cast the first stone at the godless, the gay, the government, the liberals, the educated, and anyone else that tea baggers hate. They are both racist and fascist, and probably dangerous to America. |
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Title: Re: tea party Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/20/10 at 18:13:29 092E3B2836333C2E3F285A0 wrote:
Ha ha ha,, complete crap, but whats new? |
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Title: Re: tea party Post by mick on 10/20/10 at 18:52:54 here is one just for you Jog. Christianity is just a crappy rip off other religions that preceded it .I hate to be the bearer of bad news ,but Jesus isn't exactlyan origional character .He was primarily highjacked from mithraism and fused with a few other popular religiuos icons Mithra preceded Jesus by 600 years,and he has a little bit in common with the modern lord and savior. Born Dec 25th Jesus Mithra. Born of a virgin Jesus Mithra. Nativity heralded by a star Jesus Mithra Kings brought him gifts Jesus Mithra. Wise men attended the birth Jesus Mithra performed miracles Jesus Mithra. Had 12 disciples Jesus Mithra. performed baptisms Jesus Mithra. Removed sins Jesus Mithra. Part of a holy trinity Jesus Mithra. A traveling teacher Jesus Mithra. Tempted in the desert Jesus Mithra. the list goes on.and on. Look familiar ? now the thing is who is the right one ? and then you have Krishner in the year 3,228 BC almost the same as above. And Buddiah 563 BC ,almost the same as above. there is a couple more |
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Title: Re: tea party Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/20/10 at 20:06:25 What you say about Jesus is not my problem. Say, thnk, do, whatever you want. Nothing you have to say will change what I KNOW.. |
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Title: Re: tea party Post by mick on 10/20/10 at 20:38:49 312E282F32350434043C2E22695B0 wrote:
you know nothing,if you knew some thing that would be just a tiny bit convincing you would share it, either that or it's just too embarrising. I realy think one day you will see the light. |
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Title: Re: tea party Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/20/10 at 20:55:12 Ive typed it too many times. Ive TOLD you why I believe what I believe, well, as much as I am gonna tell you. But I wasnt TAUGHT to believe. Some tried, but I couldnt see what they were talking about. Not till I was 20 or 21 did I remember what happened when I was 3. THEN I KNEW Jesus was real. |
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Title: Re: tea party Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 10/21/10 at 06:31:41 Mick - You started a discussion about the Tea party (whatever it is - I don't see it on any ballots). It only took 3 posts, including the original, to turn the discussion once more into a rant against religion. Please, my Friend, when you start an intellectual discussion; please stick with the topic, and don't turn every chat into a anti-religion rant. You are far too smart for that, but it makes people wonder if you have a single tracked mind. I know you don't, and I know that you have lots of wisdom to offer - please just do that. |
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Title: Re: tea party Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/21/10 at 08:32:13 6F7076716C6B5A6A5A62707C37050 wrote:
Thats unreasonable. Not that that shocks me, coming from you. Here, allow me to show you right thinking. People who have borne the burden of a contract are legally entitled to the benefits OF that contract. When I say "Lets go back to the Constitution",, youve GOT to know that we GOT here slowly & changing all that needs changed will take time. STOP screwing the American People & work the SS & all that govt aid crap out of the budget over tiome. Isnt it ridiculous that you want the people to suffer MORE? You want to take more away from the people. Lets FIRST stop wasting the fruits of their labors in unjust wars & forweign aid & spending billions on surveilance OF the very people who PAY for the system that watches them.. OKAY??[/quote] Here ya go,, back on track,, address my response. |
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Title: Re: tea party Post by mick on 10/21/10 at 08:36:27 ask your buddy jesus,oops he won't answer either. |
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Title: Re: tea party Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/21/10 at 08:40:04 Youre working on making yourself irrellevant. You thot you were making a point, but I responded & made you look as silly as youre acting.. |
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Title: Re: tea party Post by mick on 10/21/10 at 09:20:55 3E2127203D3A0B3B0B33212D66540 wrote:
Thats unreasonable. Not that that shocks me, coming from you. Here, allow me to show you right thinking. People who have borne the burden of a contract are legally entitled to the benefits OF that contract. When I say "Lets go back to the Constitution",, youve GOT to know that we GOT here slowly & changing all that needs changed will take time. STOP screwing the American People & work the SS & all that govt aid crap out of the budget over tiome. Isnt it ridiculous that you want the people to suffer MORE? You want to take more away from the people. Lets FIRST stop wasting the fruits of their labors in unjust wars & forweign aid & spending billions on surveilance OF the very people who PAY for the system that watches them.. OKAY??[/quote] Here ya go,, back on track,, address my response.[/quote] to be honest your writing is very bad ,it sometimes is so bad I cant read it, As for the Wars I have been against those since day one, the quote I put in about the tea party was in my local news paper,I thought it was amusing and it might get a response,as you can see it worked. |
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Title: Re: tea party Post by buttgoat1 on 10/21/10 at 09:31:01 come over to the dark side mick, you want sugar in your tea? "todays news. London England. the government is cutting a half million jobs,sharply reducing welfare, And upped retirement age to 66. Dont piddle around just do it, the country is in deep ka ka , you don't care about the next election ,just get her done. beside there is no election unless the people want one , and the house gives a vote of "No confidence". Look and learn America. " |
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Title: Re: tea party Post by tcreeley on 10/21/10 at 09:41:11 "People who have borne the burden of a contract are legally entitled to the benefits OF that contract." I agree. I've had money taken out for SS and now state pension. Now they want to cut the pension benefits. That is not fair. They are breaking their contract with me, especially when the borrow pension money to balance the budget. |
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Title: Re: tea party Post by bill67 on 10/21/10 at 10:03:18 You can vote all you want it doesn't do any good,Their all for the rich and we can do nothing about it,All members of senate and the house should only have 8 years and then out.Sarah and O'Donnell might not be smart,I think they are,I think we need to get rid of the smart people that got in there because of their money. They sure keep us in a mess. |
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Title: Re: tea party Post by Serowbot on 10/21/10 at 10:09:47 I think I'm beginning to see... Teabaggers want their "Constitutional" small government to be borne by their children,... not them... They can spend their lives paying for your promised benefits, then fend for themselves in their old age... ... after all,... a promise is a promise... You sound a lot like the French you so despise... I guess as long as you let the young people know that you're screwing them up front,... that makes it okay?... "Obama,.. keep your Big-government, hands off my Medi-care!"... ;D ;D ;D... |
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Title: Re: tea party Post by Yonuh Adisi on 10/21/10 at 10:22:34 5C4A5D40584D405B2F0 wrote:
You know, it's remarks like this that really irritate me. Well here is my take on it. The president is no more than a figurehead with no real power. It has been that way for decades now. If you don't believe me, just look at the circumstances. Every time the president tries to do something that he had promised to do during his campaign the people in congress veto it or change it so much that it no longer even resembles what he had tried to do in the first place. Once again he has no real power. If he were actually allowed to do the things he promised to do during his campaign you would see that this country would be a lot better off already. So quit blaming the president for the mistakes made and place the blame where it really belongs, the money hungry, egotistical, self important morons in congress who won't let the president to the job he was elected to do. |
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Title: Re: tea party Post by Serowbot on 10/21/10 at 10:46:13 +1 Yonuh,... ;)... |
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Title: Re: tea party Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 10/21/10 at 11:15:34 Yonuh - Fortunately, to me, we have a representative republic, not a single person dictatorship. I think what you are favoring, without saying it, is the parliamentary system of gov't, such as in most European countries, notably the U.K. There, the chief executive, the Prime Minister, is chosen by Parliament, typically a leader of the majority party in Parliament. Hence, you have the executive branch and the legislative branch of the gov't on the same page, with the same agenda, as both are guaranteed to be from the same political party. There are some exceptions, such as a coalition gov't, but not often. We have the opposite, on purpose, called checks and balances. Each of our 3, co-equal branches of gov't serves as a check and balance on the other two. Parliamentary systems generally work OK, but lend themselves to wilder and wider swings in policy. Look at the U.K. After WW II, when the Liberals came to power, they nationalized the railroads and the coal industry, for two. Years later, the Conservatives came to power, and privatized those two industries back to what they were before they were nationalized. Regardless of whether you favor either situation, you have to agree that such wild and wide swings in national policy aren't good, and they produce more economic instability than anything else. Look at the economic mess that Britain has been in for the last 40 years. The greatest sea power in the world at one time now can't even afford a single, real aircraft carrier. They have a couple of small ships that carry Sea Harriers, the jumjp jet fighters, but that's all they can put to sea. Remember, the Nazi party came to power in a free election in Germany, and the politicical head of the party, one Adolf Hitler, then became the chief executive, called the Chancellor in Germany; same as the Prime Minister in England. With no checks and balances on the total power of the gov't now lodged in one party, we all know what the outcome of that was. For me, I'll take a little gridlock in Washington once in a while to preserve our system of checks and balances. |
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Title: Re: tea party Post by Starlifter on 10/21/10 at 17:34:40 The Teabaggers have no idea what they stand for. At their rallies, they say, "I want my country back," which means nothing. They say, "We believe in freedom and the Constitution," implying what - that we don't? They say, "We want lower taxes," but Obama gave them that and they don't even know it. They also want smaller government and they want the government to continue to borrow money from China so we can further enrich the super-rich, and fight endless and meaningless wars - which makes no sense at all. |
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Title: Re: tea party Post by verslagen1 on 10/21/10 at 19:02:34 Rotella is better than tea anyday |
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Title: Re: tea party Post by mick on 10/21/10 at 21:28:49 706374756A6761636837060 wrote:
that depends. I rather enjoy my cup of tea in the morning with some toast. I wish coffee tasted like it smells,but it doesn't, it did in france but the bloody cup is so small ,A demi tasse,one sip and it's gone ,and no free refills. |
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Title: Re: tea party Post by verslagen1 on 10/21/10 at 21:34:12 an Armenian friend of mine made me a cup of Turkish coffee. yep, good stuff. you should be able to find it where ever you are. |
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Title: Re: tea party Post by mick on 10/21/10 at 23:13:28 495A4D4C535E585A510E3F0 wrote:
tastes good but it will turn your teeth black. |
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Title: Re: tea party Post by Lupo on 10/21/10 at 23:30:34 I don't like these threads because so many of you are full of sh!t politically yet I like you motorcycally. Eat sh!t, die, get on a bike and ride 8-) |
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Title: Re: tea party Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/22/10 at 02:32:46 4D5B4C51495C514A3E0 wrote:
Until recently, Ive disagreed with you, but respected you. Now, we just disagree. Youre Choosing to distortt what I say & Im not gonna sit here & tyep day after day till you stop. If you want to call me, Ill explain this, but Im done explaining it here, |
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Title: Re: tea party Post by Boule’tard on 10/22/10 at 08:34:21 736E747B7E6F180 wrote:
..motorcycally.. ha ha.. best comment yet. If anyone cares to read my sad little story, here it is. I don't expect to change anyone's mind on politics. But I do think this is a good example of how people naturally adapt to the system. I would not say government ruined my career, but it has definitely been a powerful force for mediocrity in my life. Like most kids, that whole success thing, the America-carrot was dangled in front of my face. America is a free country, you can work hard, make a lot of money, live your dreams.. all that bullshit kids are told so they become hopeful and productive citizens. I was very excited at the prospect of being successful, and began working as soon as I could. From about age 8 I mowed lawns and did other yardwork for the neighbors to make money, and man did it work! I was very happy to be able to buy a minibike when I was 9 or 10 years old. Incidentally, that is probably a reason I like motorbikes to this day; to me they represent efficacy. All throughout high school and college I kept a pretty good work ethic.. sacking groceries, cooking hamburgers, dishwashing, waiting tables, tending bar, landscaping, cashiering, office data entry, working a production line, farm work.. about 10 jobs in as many years. Of course with these low paying jobs, taxes were trivial and I accepted them as reasonable. Just a cost of stability in society. I never saw government as an impediment to my success. After 7 years of wasting college credits and studying hard, my stupid ass finally graduated with an engineering degree, and I landed a job with a concrete construction firm. At that point I was ready to go! I had my education, a good work ethic, and a means of translating those qualities into success. I knew the job would be difficult.. 60+ hours a week, harsh conditions, dangerous.. screw it, I was ready to make some money. Then looking at my paychecks I knew what was up. Social security, Medicare, Federal income tax, state income tax. The way the tax rates ramp up as you begin to make good money.. Christ!! Those motherf*ckers took half my money before I even saw it. Add to that property tax, sales tax, and all the other little nickel-and-dime taxes we pay.. the true tax bill was over 60%. Well, I'm not working to enrich the government by more than I enrich myself. I imagined, perhaps irrationally, all my tax money going to a single do-nothing bureaucrat who sat at a desk making more money than me, while I froze my butt off in the snow behind a surveying instrument. I know that the tax money was actually spread out over several bureaucrats, none of whom was really getting RICH off me, but still. The injustice was too much for me to stand for very long. "But John! You're getting all these serrrviceeees!" Services. Yeah, about the time I was getting financially mugged, I could have USED some of those fantastic services, after some kids trashed all of my belongings and were caught. In my experience, those in government are not the slightest bit interested in providing good service or justice. So after a couple years of that construction job, I quit it and took a government job. The pay isn't nearly as good, but the after-tax pay is far better for the amount of effort I expend. Sometimes I decide to work hard enough so that my effort is roughly worth the amount of money I receive. Other times I sit around and type messages on a forum about how my ambition was destroyed. I don't like it. It is a waste of life. I may fight it again. Someday I may decide I have "gotten even" with the system (for life) and go back into the private sector. But I will NEVER go back to the level of productivity I had at that first real job. If I had been allowed to keep say, 75% of that salary, I'd have kept the job. At age 40 I would now have the means to switch to something I really enjoy. Maybe I'll get to that point in another 20 years. |
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Title: Re: tea party Post by Serowbot on 10/22/10 at 10:44:53 203F393E23241525152D3F33784A0 wrote:
Until recently, Ive disagreed with you, but respected you. Now, we just disagree. Youre Choosing to distortt what I say & Im not gonna sit here & tyep day after day till you stop. If you want to call me, Ill explain this, but Im done explaining it here, [/quote] Jog,.. I didn't distort what you said,... I wasn't even commenting on anything you said... I guess this is why this stuff belongs at the Tall Table... |
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Title: Re: tea party Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/22/10 at 22:08:12 Actually, Im starting to thnk that if a man isnt close enuff to look in the eye, theres no point in even TRYING to get them to see whats happening. We Are SOO screwed & people still want to argue that thie guy is the answer. crap.. we are in for some seriously bad times. Greece is coming to our back yard. |
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Title: Re: tea party Post by mick on 10/24/10 at 13:19:47 0A151314090E3F0F3F07151952600 wrote:
I hope they bring some food. Greek food is delishious, they have cheeses to die for. How typical of you JOG a small country in trouble and you would be the first to close the door in their face. |
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Title: Re: tea party Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/24/10 at 20:29:42 What are you babbling about now? Close a door? Im only saying that what is happening there is gonna happen here.. somehow, I suspect that you alone failed to see that. |
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Title: Re: tea party Post by mick on 10/24/10 at 22:18:32 6D7274736E6958685860727E35070 wrote:
I just felt bad for you because it looked like everyone was ignoring you. I know you go into some kind of blue funk when you ignored . |
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Title: Re: tea party Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/25/10 at 03:29:06 Try me. Ignore me. Ill be fine |
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Title: Re: tea party Post by mick on 10/25/10 at 07:09:18 081711160B0C3D0D3D05171B50620 wrote:
I'm ignoring you,how's it feel ? |
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Title: Re: tea party Post by mick on 10/25/10 at 07:17:51 Jerry, good morning mate ,I got this little tid bid off of yahoo news, "Implanting a device called a stint in your neck arteries is more likely to cause a stroke or death than surgically removed life threatening blockages,US reserchers said on Monday, that was last monday . Do you have yours in the neck ? |
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Title: Re: tea party Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 10/25/10 at 07:33:49 Good morning, Mick - No, my two stents are in my left anterior descending artery, which is a coronary artery that runs vertically down the front side of the heart, feeding a part of the heart muscle. That artery is commonly called the "widow maker" because blockages there, and clots that break loose from there and cause a blockage often result in fatal heart attacks. My carotid (neck) and renal (to the kidneys) arteries are all clear. I have one coronary artery, the right coronary, that is 100% blocked, and has been for at least 10 years. The heart contains tiny, almost invisible vessels called "collaterals" that stay small and pretty much non-functional unless you need them. Miraculously, when a major vessel becomes blocked, the collaterals enlarge, carry the blood flow around many blockages, and take over the load of the blocked artery. My arteriogram showed that I have well developed collateral circulation around the blockage in the RCA. This is often called "nature's bypass". Hence, I'm in pretty good shape. I went to the Ohio State football game on Sat. My seats are in the very top deck of the stadium that holds 106,000 people and it's a LONG climb, up many, many flights of stairs to get up there. I take the first few flights two steps at a time, and don't even get winded. My family doc says that's eqivalent to a stress test, and since I do it 5 to 7 times each football season, I feel like I'm getting tested rather often and well. Thanks for asking. |
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