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Message started by EJID on 10/19/10 at 06:50:49

Title: Burning...
Post by EJID on 10/19/10 at 06:50:49

I wish it was money burning a hole in my pants, but instead it's my exhaust! Just this morning I had to stop and get gas on my way to work and as I put the bike on the kickstand I smelled something funny :-? looked down and my pants were melting to the exhaust  :o This is not the first time either...

What do some of you guys do to avoid this? I have what you would call a job that requires me to at least wear slacks and a polo shirt, if not a shirt and tie everyday. I would gladly wear Levis everyday while riding, but the boss would likely frown upon that.

Any suggestions?

Title: Re: Burning...
Post by LostArtist on 10/19/10 at 07:21:48

cotton slacks????  

Title: Re: Burning...
Post by Fuschia on 10/19/10 at 07:53:39

Is there any way you can carry your work clothes with you and then change when you get to work? Maybe buy a pair of Levis that are too big to fit over your work clothes & take them off when you get to work?Only things I can think of. :-/

Title: Re: Burning...
Post by runwyrlph on 10/19/10 at 08:20:54

i wear jeans, carry pants in backpack. if you roll instead of fold, you don't get your pants wrinkled too bad (i.e. look good enough for a druggist - probably not if you're a high powered executive!)

get leather boots like a motorcycle cop, tuck them in!  

Title: Re: Burning...
Post by Boule’tard on 10/19/10 at 08:44:21

I have the same problem.  It is not urgent because the pant/pipe contact is intermittent and I can get away with wearing jeans at work.  I have one eye out for a short carbon fiber shield that doesn't cost a fortune, but will probably just go with a short length of header wrap.

Title: Re: Burning...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/19/10 at 08:49:21

Option one, pull sock down, pull pant leg tight to the front, push fingertip into it & Foooold it across, raise sock, Pantleg is now smoothly inside the sock.

Or, do the same thing, just not so tight, then roll panleg up a couple of turns, like wrapping a towel after a shower.


Or, get some elastic & some velcro & build a band to wrap around
or, gitchyerself some Boots, Dude..



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Post by verslagen1 on 10/19/10 at 08:58:22

I wear jeans but occassionally even those get burned.
So I also wear high top boots and tuck the legs in.
Another option is leather legs aka half chaps.

Title: Re: Burning...
Post by Wolfman on 10/19/10 at 12:51:37

Buy a set of chaps. Protect your legs in more ways then one. Muffler, asphalt and cold air.

Title: Re: Burning...
Post by Fuschia on 10/19/10 at 13:08:47


665E5D575C505F310 wrote:
Buy a set of chaps. Protect your legs in more ways then one. Muffler, asphalt and cold air.

Why didn't I think of that! :o

Title: Re: Burning...
Post by Paladin. on 10/19/10 at 13:27:28


1F10131E5A0 wrote:
....my pants were melting to the exhaust  :o This is not the first time either...
What do some of you guys do to avoid this?  

I haven't done this, but in the '50's - early '60's it was my job to polish my dad's boots and puttees.  Dad was a motorcycle cop.
Puttees cover the pants/calf.  Are quick on/off, with a buckle on the top and a steel slot/tab thing at the bottom.  These look like ones the dad had:
http://www.paradestore.com/images/putteesleather9800tn.jpg http://www.paradestore.com/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=277  $250

These are older style with top/bottom straps:
http://www.goldenagemotorcycleclothing.com/puttee10.jpghttp://www.goldenagemotorcycleclothing.com/puttees.htm  $125.


Title: Re: Burning...
Post by EJID on 10/19/10 at 13:28:47


655D5E545F535C320 wrote:
Buy a set of chaps. Protect your legs in more ways then one. Muffler, asphalt and cold air.


Agree, this would be ideal, other than most of my rides are to/from work and that is less than a 3 mile commute each way. Would make putting on chaps more of a hassle than anything else, but would offer the most protection.

Appreciate all the ideas, hate having to shell out money on a perfectly good pair of pants that are ruined so quickly. (I've only had this pair that burned today about 3 weeks :-[)

Title: Re: Burning...
Post by mick on 10/19/10 at 15:08:59

Wear a kilt.

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Post by Charon on 10/19/10 at 16:32:39

With the kilt you burn your leg instead. Devise a heat shield, perhaps by wrapping several layers of hardware cloth around the pipe. Of course, it won't look very good. Or trade for a bike with a pipe in a different location.

Title: Re: Burning...
Post by Oldfeller on 10/19/10 at 16:55:18


If you have a Dyna or other form of aftermarket muffler, go to a motorcycle place or a boat place and buy some 2" wide fiberglass stripping tape.   Get at least 10-15 feet worth of continuous tape.

Take your muffler and header off as an assembly -- don't break the clamp joint (you will be wrapping over it, so snug it up a bit while it is still on the bike)

Wrapping instructions given here pertain to a Dyna muffler -- do not wrap a stock muffler as it holds in heat and you will melt certain non-metalic mounting parts if you wrap over them.

Start as far back on the muffler as you can, going as far back as your mounting bolt goes through the bracket if you want to maximize coverage.  Glue the start point down with something (muffer putty in the squeeze tube works good for this). Give it one full straight wrap and reglue as you go past the start point again.  Then wrap it on a gain keeping a at least a quarter to a half of the wrap overlapping the last round.  Stretch things a bit to make the wrap conform to the conical shape changes of the muffler and pipe.  

Tip: A thin stripe of  muffler squeeze tube putty on the back side of things gives "a tie down point" to each wrap turn as you make it and keeps them all from coming unraveled should you lose tension momentarily.

Wrap her on up over the joint and up the pipe at least as far up the pipe portion as your toes can go at full leg extension.  Then spot it good with putty and do a full turn in place and glue the cut end down with muffler putty so it doesn't show on the back side of the pipe.

The muffler putty has squeezed through the mesh as you went along making a push through line along the back sides of everything.  Match that with a thin finger line of fresh putty applied along the back side of the entire wrapped length.  This anchors your wrap job very nicely.

Optional but very smart is some fine single strand stainless wire (got mine from Walmart in the picture frame area in Hardware) twisted up tight with pliers around the start and stop points of the wrap job and again at the joint area on both sides of the muffler/pipe joint.  

Eventually you are going to want to cut the tape to take the muffer and pipe apart, when you do that stop the unraveling with a heavy smear of muffler putty all the way around at the cut point (apply before you cut it) and have the wire already there to limit the fraying mechanically.

Good news, if you have white fiberglass wrap and get it stained with dirty  motor oil it will burn itself back to white in about 3-4 months.  The stain will eventually become unnoticeable.

The fiberglass wrap will prevent polyester pants from melting on your exhaust system IF you cover enough of the muffler and pipe to hit all the places your pants can hit.


Fair Warning -- your muffer and pipe will discolor (blue) everywhere you cover it with wrap -- so expect this and accept it ahead of time.


Title: Re: Burning...
Post by Phelonius on 10/19/10 at 17:07:59

Wear canvas gaiters, or leather gaiters. They zipper up and protect your pants from burning and your shins from rocks , bird strikes, small children , etc.

Phelonius

Title: Re: Burning...
Post by ALfromN.H. on 10/19/10 at 17:56:18

I was thinking of a gaiter but a cheaper way to go would be to sew a couple strips of vercro to a piece of leather and wrap it around you leg. Same thing just cheaper.

AL

Title: Re: Burning...
Post by Trippah on 10/19/10 at 20:24:52

How about one of those ipod holders for joggers, must be one that wpould fit an ankle.  As a bonus, if the  size were right you could carry your EZ Pass transponder in the pouch. ;)

Title: Re: Burning...
Post by Wolfman on 10/20/10 at 01:05:59

Chaps take less time to put on then your boots. Keeps the road dirt off your clean work pants as well as keeping them from burning. Their nice when some soccer mom on her cell in a mini van cuts you off as well.
Putting a set of gaiters or puttees on from the army surplus store will take about the same time and offer a lot less protection.
Means you can leave the thermals off your legs during the ride as well when it gets really nippy. ;).

Title: Re: Burning...
Post by mpescatori on 10/20/10 at 02:18:45


101F1C11550 wrote:
I wish it was money burning a hole in my pants, but instead it's my exhaust! Just this morning I had to stop and get gas on my way to work and as I put the bike on the kickstand I smelled something funny :-? looked down and my pants were melting to the exhaust  :o This is not the first time either...

What do some of you guys do to avoid this? I have what you would call a job that requires me to at least wear slacks and a polo shirt, if not a shirt and tie everyday. I would gladly wear Levis everyday while riding, but the boss would likely frown upon that.

Any suggestions?


Hi EJID, all suggestions (except header wrap) seem good to me.

I don't like header wrap per se, it's a primciple of mine.

Do you, by chance, have extra length forward controls fitted?
Because my foot controls are standard, and I've been riding in my uniform or civilian attire for 5 years now, and never ever had an issue.
So, it's either forward controls or flappy trousers (bell bottoms?)

You could go '60s fashion and wear narrow tube-bottom trousers.

One cheap and dependable solution is the ankle clip as sold in BiCYCLE stores (to keep trousers frmo getting caught in the chain and sprocket), mine glow in the dark !!!
Good visibility at night !!!

 :)

Title: Re: Burning...
Post by FlybysBlvd on 10/20/10 at 05:56:30

http://www.motorcyclecloseouts.com/extras/cruiser+accessories/fieldsheer_burngaiter

Got one of these and it works very well - just have to find them, they are out of stock at motorcycle closeouts.
C

Title: Re: Burning...
Post by EJID on 10/20/10 at 08:08:01


776A7F69797B6E7568731A0 wrote:
Hi EJID, all suggestions (except header wrap) seem good to me.

I don't like header wrap per se, it's a primciple of mine.

Do you, by chance, have extra length forward controls fitted?
Because my foot controls are standard, and I've been riding in my uniform or civilian attire for 5 years now, and never ever had an issue.
So, it's either forward controls or flappy trousers (bell bottoms?)

You could go '60s fashion and wear narrow tube-bottom trousers.

One cheap and dependable solution is the ankle clip as sold in BiCYCLE stores (to keep trousers frmo getting caught in the chain and sprocket), mine glow in the dark !!!
Good visibility at night !!!

 :)


I too, do not particularly like the header wrap (just doesn't suit my style)

I don't have forward controls, and I would say the pants I wear aren't exactly bell bottoms, but they are somewhat loose/baggy.

I thought about the ankle clip/strap things as well, and think that would probably work best for most of my short jaunt riding that I do.

When I get around to being able to ride more frequently for extended distances, I will entertain the idea of full leather chaps. (currently I have had the bike only about 14 months and have only put on about 1,200 miles)

Fly - the gaiters that you posted would be ideal. I will keep an eye out for those as well.

Thanks for everyone's advice/ideas. (but I'm NOT wearing a KILT!!!)  :o

Title: Re: Burning...
Post by jef.savage on 10/21/10 at 11:48:25

All you need is a set of pants clips designed for bicyclists.  You can get them for under $4 but these have the advantage of giving you some style (or making you look dorky as all get out, depending on your point of view).
http://www.conranusa.com/productdetails.aspx?cid=Under25&language=en-US&pid=19057

Title: Re: Burning...
Post by EJID on 10/21/10 at 11:59:05


202F2C643929253C2326262F4A0 wrote:
All you need is a set of pants clips designed for bicyclists.  You can get them for under $4 but these have the advantage of giving you some style (or making you look dorky as all get out, depending on your point of view).
http://www.conranusa.com/productdetails.aspx?cid=Under25&language=en-US&pid=19057


Agree, those have to be some of the dorkiest looking things I have ever seen  :D But seriously, I just need to stop and pickup a set of the cheepo bike ones from wallyworld or something. Thanks again everyone.

Title: Re: Burning...
Post by IN-S40 on 10/21/10 at 12:29:18

Another idea is a slap bracelet: http://www.amazon.com/12-animal-print-slap-bracelets/dp/B0001ZJ7NK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1287688762&sr=8-1

Can probably find them at walmart for cheap too. You can find them in black that is unless you like the animal print... its a simple piece of spring steel that wraps around your wrist but could also wrap around your leg, just a thought.

Darren
IN-S40

PS no I dont play with bracelets... ::) my daughter does lol

Title: Re: Burning...
Post by stinger on 10/21/10 at 23:45:53

Quit your job!

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Post by skatnbnc on 10/22/10 at 05:58:05

Check the horse and feed supply stores (online and in town) for gaiters and chaps - they are often less expensive there than from MC dealers, and if you have a local store you may find a re-sale section where gently used equipment is availble.
I got a super nice pair of Ariat boots for $20 that way! (retail $250)

Half gaiters in all sorts of colors, styles and materials (I'm holding out for a pink pair!)  :)

Title: Re: Burning...
Post by bill67 on 10/22/10 at 06:12:17

You guys must be holding your legs tight to the cycle,I've never burned any pants legs.

Title: Re: Burning...
Post by skatnbnc on 10/22/10 at 13:28:55

or you could just wrap your leg with header wrap, thus avoiding the whole pipe bluing issue altogether.
;)

Title: Re: Burning...
Post by Charon on 10/22/10 at 17:48:53

Actually, I haven't burned any trousers legs. But I have burned the leg of my Frogg Toggs and the leg of my snowmobile suit on the exhaust of the S40. Seems to happen when I have gotten off the bike and am standing on the right (starboard) side either fuelling the bike or doing something else that requires me to stand close to it. Both cases I burned the outside of the left leg.

However, I have burned my right boot heel against the pipe, just aft of the front heat shield, while riding.

Title: Re: Burning...
Post by Serowbot on 10/22/10 at 22:59:39

I have a wicked good burn on my left shoulder from an exhaust pipe...
... but my pants are fine,... can't imagine how you'd burn your pants...:-?...

Title: Re: Burning...
Post by stinger on 10/24/10 at 02:58:31

I can't imagine how you got a exhaust burn on your shoulder!

Title: Re: Burning...
Post by mick on 10/24/10 at 18:58:43

he laid her down on the right side,he fineshed up using the exhaust for a pillow.. but he is very tough.

Title: Re: Burning...
Post by bill67 on 10/24/10 at 19:08:32

I think he must have been checking the oil level.

Title: Re: Burning...
Post by mick on 10/24/10 at 19:19:08


565D58580203340 wrote:
I think he must have been checking the oil level.

could be bill, you must be the only one awake tonight ,they must be watching Desperate Housewives,

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