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Title: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/07/10 at 05:10:14 http://revoltoftheplebs.wordpress.com/2010/06/30/government-math-for-kids/ Scope out these hnumbers. Then, learn about the federal reserve, or be consigned to more of the same. Luke: She’s rich. Han Solo: [interested] Rich? Luke: Rich, powerful. Listen, if you were to rescue her, the reward would be… Han Solo: What? Luke: Well, more wealth than you can imagine! Han Solo: I don’t know, I can imagine quite a bit. from Star Wars-Episode IV-A New Hope Hello, boys and girls! Did you know that you and I can create millions, billions and even trillions of numbers just as easily as the Federal Reserve? All you have to do is use your imagination. Let’s try it! I’ll use the number proposed by Obama for his 2011 Federal Budget. Its numerical value looks something like this: 3,800,000,000,000 Translated into words, that number is pronounced as three trillion eight hundred billion. That’s a big number, huh? It only took me three seconds to produce that number. Let’s put a dollar sign in front of that: $3,800,000,000,000 Now, let’s take that number and put it in the deposit column of our checkbook ledger and add that in to what we have on account. For me, that figure would add up to be: $3,800,000,000,127.14 I’m RICH! Let’s do the same for the Federal government. Let’s take that $3,800,000,000,000 that Obama wants for his 2011 Federal budget and put it into the deposit column of what the Federal government has on account. Wait a minute! The Federal government has no money on account. As a matter of fact, they are this many dollars in the hole: $13,053,274,954,598 O.K., so if the Federal Reserve gives the Federal government $3,800,000,000,000, does that bring the number down to: $9,253,274,954,600? Well, it would be if the Federal Reserve actually gave that money to the Federal government. Unfortunately, that money is only a loan. So, if we add what the Federal government already owes to the Federal Reserve to what it wants to borrow in the future, that number would be: -$16,853,274,954,600 Did you catch that minus (-) figure I inserted before the dollar sign, children? That ((MINUS!!!)) represents what you and your children and your children’s children and their children will be expected to pay back to the Federal Reserve the minute they’re born. Now, if you’d like to spare your children all that grief and pay off your share of that debt right now, all you need to do is cough up $42,265.41. But that doesn’t quite get you off the hook because starting next year, you’ll have to come up with about $1500.00 per month to pay for your share of the 2011 Federal budget. Let’s pretend that this milk cow represents YOU and that this CHAINSAW represents the Federal Reserve. Now, let’s pull this cord and get this baby warmed up! Hear that? That’s the sound of TYRANNY! Smell that gasoline? That’s the armpit of the policeman who’s got you in a chokehold for exercising your 1st amendment right More, follow link above. |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by LANCER on 07/07/10 at 06:02:49 A GREAT ILLISTRATION... WE HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM THAT WILL TAKE LIFETIMES TO SOLVE IF WE CAN WAKE UP ENOUGH PEOPLE WITH THE ROCKS TO DO THE HARD THINGS TO MAKE THIS RIGHT |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/07/10 at 06:12:05 An ignorant people will never be free for long. The masses have no clue about how the monetary system works & would prefer to babble on about the game or the race than learn... learn about how it works, it isnt that hard & untill people know whats going on, they cant resist it. |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by Charon on 07/07/10 at 06:27:07 It would appear you don't like the Federal Reserve. Bear in mind it was created in an attempt to solve earlier problems. Let's see YOUR solution. Even better, cite a country with a better system, PROVEN TO WORK. |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/07/10 at 09:39:43 Every major civilisation has been taken by the central bankers to date, so no example exists to demonstrate to the people what could be. However, a study of our history shows that when the central banks were crushed the average person saw greater wealth & with the Fed in place, our standard of living has been going down. We were allowed to prosper for a while, but then, we started down. Ill bet if we hung out a cou[ple of days, I could get it thru to ya, but with a keyboard? never happen. Youll need to WANT the answers bad enough to go get them instead of sit there & expect me to spoon feed it to you. Read Creature fron Jekyll Island. |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by earlytimz on 07/07/10 at 11:01:21 Spoken like a true RP supporter! The truth is spreading. Does anyone notice how the markets of today are closely paralleled to the markets of the '29-30's??? Mayday, Mayday, Mayday!! |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by bill67 on 07/07/10 at 12:46:56 America is the land of opportunity it really helps if your parents are muti millionaires. |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by Stimpy on 07/07/10 at 14:49:29 nice link justin, thanks for sharing ;) http://revoltoftheplebs.wordpress.com/ |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by Edgar on 07/07/10 at 18:02:23 While I agree and logically know that the fed reserve is sticking a huge stick in our behinds, I can't just let you give the idea that this country isn't a land of opportunity anymore. I live in San Diego, we're on the border with Mexico. Point is, spend a few hours on that side of the border and you'll learn that there are still many things to appreciate this country. My parents cane from there 30 years ago and thus country has given them things they couldn't have imagined having in their lives. Just wanted to put that out there. |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/07/10 at 18:07:57 Yea, Edgar, I can see where youre copming from, BUT, Im 55 & Ive seen America at its best. Ive seen Nafta & the resultant pain. Ive seen the dollar beaten dopwn. Greenspan sucked the heart out of it. He played the economy from both ends, I never saw anyone heat it up & play it like he did. The Man WAS, before being the Fed Chair, a Hard Asset guy. He was a vocal o[pponent of Keynesian economics, a Mises man, an Austrian theory guy. But, he sold out & did the bidding of the banks. Just being better than the corrupt, failed sinkhole of Mexico's economy is no great feat & we are headed DOWN & fast, so, while we are in better shape than Mexico & a few other places, we are NO Where Near where we were & we are headed lower by the day. |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by Ed L. on 07/07/10 at 18:33:06 I just found this interesting look at how people are controlled. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbp6umQT58A&feature=channel It's an eye opener. |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by Edgar on 07/07/10 at 18:35:12 746B6D6A7770417141796B672C1E0 wrote:
I agree with you bud. I'm 22 so I envy the fact that you've seen what this country once was. |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by Stimpy on 07/08/10 at 04:20:47 GREAT video Ed, thanks for sharing!!! (really glad to see more and more "awake" persons these days) * btw, saw the carlin video? great stuff, wise man. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f0GStBCeUU[/media] Edgar, I also grew up in SD but I'm a decade older than you are now and seriously you should have seen that SoCal economy and mood from the late 70's to early 90's, wow, it was something else. Yes, it now gives the apparence of growth and wealth (fashion valley, la joya, petco park, about 800 new shiny starbucks and macstores, the new convention center, etc) but honestly the city is broke and real estate and utility prices are just ridiculous. But what went wrong? It's all quite complicated but the one answer is: Big Business. All the costcos, wallmarts and malls killed the mom and pop stores that are NEEDED to keep the local economy healthy. Other factors include less tourism, less foreign investment, less federal/state budget for the area and that the mexican economy never quite recovered from the 1993-94 crisis and SD grew too dependent on this outside income, also the fact that most of SoCal is bulit on the desert away from natural water sources does not help things either. All that being said i still must confess that San Diego simply put is heaven on earth and I miss it terribly, cheers Edgar and now go and take a ride up at Palomar and post some pics! ;) *btw: you felt that new 5.4 earthquake? I love earthquakes, they're fun. |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by Edgar on 07/08/10 at 13:27:06 The first earthquake about 4 months ago was kinda cool.... But now it's getting scary! |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by mick on 07/08/10 at 23:25:10 I lived in SD for many years and loved it,I moved to Oregon because the weather is cooler and very much like England. Please don't listen to Mr Gloom and doom (AKA Justin) or (uni bomber) he lives in his cave with his radio tuned to Rush Limbough,he cant be helped ,just a freaking nut case. We get them from time to time,there was one on here a short time ago who called himself "SS Moderator" But that is the problem with an open forum,we have freedom of speach,until the moderator gets pissed off and bands you from the site, And it does happen. |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 07/09/10 at 06:05:17 Even as a die hard conservative, I find it interesting that people wish for a return of the 1950s, but blame big business for our present difficulties. You can't have it both ways. I grew up in the 50s, and have fond recollections of the times. But mine are the recollections of a child, sheltered as all children are who have a normal upbringing. If you think banks and big business run things now, you have forgotten what it was like in the 50s, when there were no civil rights laws with any teeth, no equal opportunity employment laws at all, now environmental laws, etc.. I remember when newspapers' help wanted ads were divided into "Male Help Wanted" and Female Help Wanted". At the risk of being called a bigot, which I certainly am not, I see our problems of today directly tied to the fact that we now encourage the dumbest and least productive among us to vote. Voting has nothing to do with gender or race, but should have lots to do with whether you are smart enough to find the polling place, and take the effort to get there, without the Acorn bus having to drive you there. As it now stands, many elections are decided by those who have no stake in the outcome beyond their welfare check. This applies to whites and minorities. This "early voting" is stupid. True absentee voting is OK for those who are actually away from their place of residence on election day. But otherwise, election day should be election day. The freedom to vote is worth being inconvenienced a little bit to make it to the polls. Few people work 14 hours per day; and here in Ohio, the polls are open from 6:30 AM to nearly 8 PM on election day, so anyone can plan twice a year (primary and general elections) to alter their schedule to get to the polls IF they care enough. If they don't, to He!! with them. The other major cause of our present difficulties is illegal immigration, and a Washington culture that won't stop it. I welcome any legal immigrant, regardless of color or national origin, as almost all of us are the decendants of immigrants. Since Arizona got fed up and took the lead, see how the howls have arisen form those who think it's unfair. Anyhow, in the "good old days" that JOG remembers, big business ran the country totally unbridled, except for affairs where unions had some power. Beyond that, the boardrooms of America ran the show. Maybe that was better. At least people with some smarts had the reins. |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by bill67 on 07/09/10 at 06:14:26 Voting has nothing to do with how this country is run,congress does what it wants,It doesn't matter what the people want,I'm sure 90% of the American people were against the wars what good did it do. |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/09/10 at 06:27:11 Goes so much deeper than that Jerry, |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 07/09/10 at 06:39:36 No. JOG, it really doesn't. While I respect you personally, the conspiracy theorists have been around since the days of the Knights Templar, and have always been just that - theorists. You just can't have your cake and eat it too. If you want a system that rewards what was rewarded in the 1950s and prior, that's one thing, and it will have the results we had then. Opporunity and success for those who fit into the mold, which was basically WASP males in those days. If you want everyone to be taken care of, we're moving to that extreme now. I favor the middle, perhaps tilted, if it must be titled at all, toward ignoring the lazy and having gov't care only for those poor souls who truly are physically or mentally handicapped, and who therefore, can't help themselves. But for the druggie hanging out on the street corner, or the one who quits school in the 8th grade to pimp or sell drugs, the sooner he is out of the politcal picture and out of our gov't's concern, the better. But now we worry over such things as equal rights for queers, and allowing htem to "marry", (yes, I use that word, for that's what they are), passing kids from grade to grade even though they didn't perform because we certainly don't want to offend them by saying, "You failed". If we got back to a mind set of caring about whether we succeed, and teaching that moral, we might restore a modicum of work ethic and success. But I fear it'll never be regained as we've just gone too far the other direction to stop the train. |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/09/10 at 07:13:23 If we got back to a mind set of caring about whether we succeed, and teaching that moral, we might restore a modicum of work ethic and success. But I fear it'll never be regained as we've just gone too far the other direction to stop the train. Back to top Roger that.. |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by bill67 on 07/09/10 at 08:08:53 Times were much better in the 50s tv stars made 3-4 times what average person made,Now they make a 1000 times,Gov. of California wants his people to work for minimum wage 7.75 per hour.We come a long way baby,but in the wrong direction.The rich want the rich to get richer and the poor poorer and they will even kill for it. |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 07/09/10 at 08:35:49 OK, Bill - Let's assume you are totally correct. So let's repeal all laws made since 1959. This would include all of the civil rights and equal employment laws, all environmental laws. Let's also go back to the tax laws of 1959 when we had unlimited deductions for "business use" of yachts, country clubs, and business entertainment of any sort. That sure favored the little guy, didn't it? Also repeal all of the financial laws that restrict insider trading, allow for corporate oversight, etc. Bernie Madoff would still be a free man. Really want to do all of that? Anyone who seriously thinks that "big business" runs the show today ought to read what it was like in 1959. Business interests have lost about 90% of the clout that they had 50 years ago, or even in the 1970s. I'm all for the state workers getting minimum wage for a few months. Let them live like other working class people do. Maybe better yet, let's just make sure every one on a highway crew is required to have a shovel in his hand, rather than having 3 of them watching one guy dig. Since the recession in building hit, building inspectors in my town have so little to do that FOUR of them showed up the other days for a simple framing inspection at one of the few houses under construction. Heaven forbid that the city would actually lay them off, like a business would. And, my daughter is the ONLY member of city council opposing a doubling of the city's income tax rates, and giving the city employees a 6% raise across the board. That's what's wrong. If we respected business again, like people did in the 50s, instead of deriding business interests, and realized that business is what made America great, maybe we'd get somewhere again. My mom worked in a small factory as a payroll clerk, and she respected the owner of the place. She never even used his first name, he was always Mr. Guthrie. Long after he had retired, he actually came back here from Florida to attend her funeral; yes, the funeral of a payroll clerk. Would he have done that for someone who hated him? I doubt it. But all we do now is villify business - oh well, we're getting what we deserve when we elect a Pres. to run this nation who never had a real job, nor even managed a lemonade stand. Our priorites are just out of whack. But again, it all goes back to who votes nowadays - those who have no stake in the outcome swing more elections than you can imagine. |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by bill67 on 07/09/10 at 09:18:31 I'm all for Congress getting minimal wage,I realize thats more than they a should get for sitting around talking and making poor decisions.I think all of the state workers in California should get a bonus,that would put more money in circulation. |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/09/10 at 09:30:50 So let's repeal all laws made since 1959 I stop readin when someone who is clearly intelligent gets completely ridiculous. |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 07/09/10 at 10:48:47 JOG - You quit reading at your own peril, and didn't continue to see how ludicrous that would have been. Remember your high school literature class - a writing can always begin a paragraph with a statement contrary to the point of the paragraph in order to insert emphasis. One can do te same in the intro to a complete story. |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/09/10 at 11:11:00 Awwrite, but the premise seems ludicrous. Ill go forward, not because I expect Il;l agree, but b/c I know youre no dummy. |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by Serowbot on 07/09/10 at 11:15:40 The only people I know that can look forward to, or already have a retirement income, other than SSI, are state or federal employees... That does not bode well for the private sector in the future... I can't imagine this country 50 years from now,... but when I try, it's not pretty... |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/09/10 at 11:22:08 757A767C777A717D7A6D787A6D1F0 wrote:
Monsanto is out to destroy us, google Dyncor sex slavery, the FDA has made toxins in our food the norm. our govt is completley oput of control of the people & under the comtrol of huge corporations & the central bankers. Eiosenhowers warning went unheeded. |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 07/09/10 at 12:07:53 Serowbot - At times there's a glimmer in your posts of a conservative. I fear ,as you do, and for the same reasons. But if you have this fear, why are you a left-winger? That's te mystery to me. Before the Dems quit being the party of the working person, and instead became the party of the non-working person, which occurred right about 1964 when LBJ got elected in his own right (maybe - he was still in the shadow of JFK). JOG is right about a lot of things about the 1950s. Pensions were common then, but gee whiz, only for those who worked. SS was solvent too. Personal incomes were growing, corporate profits were sizeable - all good things. But then today, so many just criticize corp. profits, as if they were evil. It's when the gov't started "caring" about people that things when to Hades in a hand basket. Gov't isn't, or shouldn't be, in the business of caring - that's for private folks, churches, charities, foundations, etc. to do. Yes, we should care, and act on our cares - but privately, not governmentally. |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by LostArtist on 07/09/10 at 12:47:07 as long as there is inequality this bs will continue, period. but being equal creates associations with BS communism and we cant' have that. not that that's the answer either. because being better is what humans strive for. most humans anyway. being better than they personally were the day before, but some strive to be better than another person, competitive nature and all that I'm not advocating communism or a push for equality, just an acknowledgment of the innate problem of being human. just be the best person you can in your area and that's all any of us can do. yes the FED is a problem but I don't feel I can do anything about it, there are other things that are more important to me than the FED or anything govt. related. and getting all upset about this federal bs or that federal bs isn't helping me any |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by LostArtist on 07/09/10 at 12:57:56 jerry, the republicans haven't done anything to address any of these issues either. they talk a good game but can't play worth sh!t they just want to spend us into debt via wars instead of domestic issues. I'm done with both parties, which yes, means I'm not voting or caring anymore |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by Serowbot on 07/09/10 at 13:03:51 I'm actually a very conservative person... I'm a strong supporter of individual freedoms... personal choice without government intrusion,... I pinch penny's 'till they bleed, and save all I can... I conserve my money, don't waste resources, recycle, and reuse... I can't throw food away, unless it walks off on it's own... I don't see the conservative ideals in the conservative party.... They are for restricting personal freedoms and choices,... waste of resources, and rampant, wasteful consumerism... "W said support the war by going shopping"... But,... as a citizen of the richest and most powerful country in the world,... I'm for the humane treatment of all people in this country... Again, this should be a right-wing religious, conservative value... Jesus said that what ever you do for the least of his brothers, you have done for him. The main difference is that I think government should insure this care for all needy, instead of relying on individual charity... I was never one to pick the cute puppy at the pound... but many people are... and with private charity the cute child, or more sanitary disease gets the money... |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 07/09/10 at 13:13:04 LA - That's your privilege in a free country; participate or not at your will. To me it's very simple. Look at what we have today and look at how our goals have changed in the last 40 years. Look at how people criticize the great American economic engine that made us what we are (better put, what we were). Has the great change in the direction of gov't helped much? Yes, but mainly for those who don't contribute much to the overall good or success of the country (Robin Hood lives, but now in Washington, not Sherwood Forest). The only solution, which I fear won't ever happen again, is for ordinary people like us to once more respect, admire, and aspire to success, honestly earned profits, and continued economic growth; and leave the charity to the charities, not the gov't. We are infested with all kinds of rabble, from drug gangs, gangs of violence outside of the drug trade, the useless who just b!tch and moan rather than work, illegals who drain our resources, an inflated gov't which is a true parasite in the classic definition of a thing that lives off of another without producing its own "food", to a list far too long to repeat here. Better than ignoring it, be a part of the fix. |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 07/09/10 at 13:29:35 Serowbot - I'll truly take issue with your idea that private charities only care for the cute kid. On of my esteemed friends who is a successful plaintiffs' attorney (ambulance chaser to some, but not accurate) personally funds and supports an orphanage in Romania. If you remember in the early 1990s, as the Warsaw Pact was falling apart, it became known in the Western world that Romania was in the worst shape of all of the former Eastern Bolc countries. It had been pillaged first by the Germans in WW II, then it continued to be robbed by its own communist rulers. It had a huge AIDS problem, and any deformed child, or child born with any birth defect was usually simply put out on the sidewalk to die. Without doubt, Romania was the poorest country in Europe. My friend and a very few others from his city started this orphanage that now serves about 100 kids at a time - mainly to get them out of there and adopted by Western couples, in the U.S. and elsewhere. Most of the kids they serve have a problem or two - that's why they are in the orphanage. They aren't real orphans - just abandoned by their birth parents. And before somebody says there are kids here who need help - that's a cop-out. There are kids everywhere who need help; none better than any others, regardless of where they are. There are hundreds of private charities like this one, here and abroad. We don't hear much about them because they are more interested in the good works they do rather than publicity. |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by LostArtist on 07/09/10 at 14:22:37 one of the reasons there's so much support for govt intervention is because private charities don't advertise or promote themselves to get the recognition they deserve. and there are people like me, who will die or be homeless before I ever ask for help from anyone, even friends. I'll consider myself a failure as a human being and . . . well, that's that. |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by bill67 on 07/09/10 at 14:36:21 Any charities is like any thing else in this country theirs people who skim off the top 10% goes to the cause 90% to pay for the crooks that run it. |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by mick on 07/09/10 at 14:44:22 555E5B5B0100370 wrote:
Bill it's kinda like the guy who won a hundred million $, his wife said ,"honey what will we do with all the begging letters ?" the husband says " keep sending them,you never know" . |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by Stimpy on 07/15/10 at 08:04:13 WATCH IT. |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by Stimpy on 07/15/10 at 08:16:27 For more videos from RSA go here: http://comment.rsablogs.org.uk/videos/ |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by mick on 07/16/10 at 14:48:20 Yahoo headline today "America no longer the land of oppertunity" it is now "The land of unemployment". Even if we wanted to help the cause by buying American,it cant be done ,Although I did manage to find a very nice pocket knife made in USA the make was "Sod Buster" but you really have to look hard.,make's me fu*king sick, that godam sh1t from china is just that,SH1T. have you noticed how much better things are if you are lucky enough to find some thing made in the good old US of A,it was the same in England,I don't even know if you can still buy Shefield Steel any more Britain was once a great nation making some of the best stuff in the world,.like tools,shoes,clothing,I could go on all day.All gone now,,,boo hoo. |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by Midnightrider on 07/16/10 at 19:22:04 Mick other than a few guitars, I cant think of anything I own made in USA. I have a pickup truck with an American nameplate but I suspect 75% of it was probably made overseas. One of the smartest men thats ever walked the face of this earth tells it like it really is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYIC0eZYEtI&feature=related |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by mick on 07/16/10 at 22:13:04 183C313B3C323D21273C313027550 wrote:
very true Midnight, I loved George Carlin,I' would be supprised if any one here likes him because he was an athiest. |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by Stimpy on 07/17/10 at 02:10:14 Miss ya George! (lifelong fan and saw him live in 2008!) Now keep your eyes peeled for PATRICK CARLIN, Georges 'wiser' older brother (according to george) I heard somewhere he was cooking something up with consultant and author Gerald Celente, if I hear anything I'll let you know, meanwhile check Celentes, Trends Research website here (good site): http://www.trendsresearch.com/forecast.html GC, 1986 - Stuff [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvgN5gCuLac[/media] |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/17/10 at 04:54:55 Celente is a regular guest on Alex Jones. He made a study of the things that boggled the minds of most people & got rich because of it. I listen to what that man says. |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by verslagen1 on 07/17/10 at 22:40:30 Here's a point that confuses me... Quote:
So the GOP doesn't want to pay the extension and wants unemployment to rise. Does that make sense? Don't they track unemployment by those on benefits? And if they are not on benefits, don't they try a lot harder to get a job? |
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Title: Re: So, America is the land of opportunity? Post by JohnBoy on 07/18/10 at 05:40:15 "$3,800,000,000,000" Isn't that what Halliburton made on that no bid contract in Iraq? When political parties "All of them!" stop putting hacks in professional positions and start hiring the best and the brightest to run the State Department and the Treasury things will get better. Right now it's looking more like the last days of the Roman Empire. |
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