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Message started by texsam on 07/04/10 at 17:00:42

Title: optimum engine temp questions
Post by texsam on 07/04/10 at 17:00:42

I was wonering what temp should my suzi be at operating temp
when i check it at the colling fins it registers 240 farenheight is that to high??????? what do u guys get?? i am not sure bout oil temp the difference it variations between the 2.is 240 at the fins to high buy the crank case it says 25 lowere but i need some advice am i overheating or runnin to high???

Title: Re: optimum engine temp questions
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/04/10 at 17:10:25

Under what conditions are the temps that high? Idling? Running along in 1st at 15 MPH? Or is that after running it at regular speeds & shutting off then checking? How certain are you of the thermometers accuracy? Have you checked the temp of water when it starts to boil?

Title: Re: optimum engine temp questions
Post by texsam on 07/04/10 at 17:48:05

aftre a 25 mi ride i havent checked accuracy of temp gauge, i'm wonering what is the optimul operating temp of the engine (cooling fins) or the oil temp i also afer running it i used a grilll temp gauge stuck it in the refill oil port and it registered 225 farenhieght does that sound right??? but these temps are at 65 mph  4 25 mi

Title: Re: optimum engine temp questions
Post by texsam on 07/04/10 at 17:49:03

and after turning off i check


Title: Re: optimum engine temp questions
Post by texsam on 07/04/10 at 18:23:49

ne suggestions guys??????????

Title: Re: optimum engine temp questions
Post by Serowbot on 07/04/10 at 21:20:58

... if you got oil in it,... don't worry about it....  Suzuki designed it to be air-cooled and put the fins it needed to work best...
You really can't do anything much about it anyway...  
If it overheats, from too much, stop n' go traffic, it'll let you know by getting all stumbly and then it'll die...  That's a signal to let it cool off...  Stop and have a soda....
Mine does pretty fine in 100+ Arizona heat...

Checking temps on an air-cooled bike, is just gonna' make you a nervous wreck... you can't add a bigger radiator or use water wetter, or a stronger fan...
... best you're gonna' do is blow on it... :-?...

Mind your lips if you try that one... ;D...

Sorry, if I'm being too sarcastic,... just saying, don't worry... It's a well designed engine.

Title: Re: optimum engine temp questions
Post by omahasavage on 07/04/10 at 21:42:36

does adding an oil cooler help much?  

Title: Re: optimum engine temp questions
Post by texsam on 07/04/10 at 22:03:17

havent tried its kinda pricer for the cooler i'm just wondering what you guys with these bikes  are runnin at at am i to high temp??????what do you think i.ve got differ opinions, my pipe arent blue so thats a good sign???

Title: Re: optimum engine temp questions
Post by texsam on 07/04/10 at 22:06:04

right on serrow got you it runs quiet no new cam chain just reg maintenece 20400 mi so it is a solid 650 bike 4 sure.

Title: Re: optimum engine temp questions
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/04/10 at 22:56:04

& youve checked the wear on that cam chain?

Title: Re: optimum engine temp questions
Post by verslagen1 on 07/04/10 at 23:08:19

checking with a ir temp gage, I get 220 at the head fins and 175 at the oil filter cover for a similar 25 mile commute.

When it's hot, you won't be able to keep your legs on the pegs.

Title: Re: optimum engine temp questions
Post by Oldfeller on 07/04/10 at 23:48:52


All this worrying about "temperature" is pointless, change your oil to a good synthetic and then only worry about it when things get over 350 degrees (your legs will cook to medium well in the normal riding position).

Oil failure can possibly kill your engine, yes, it is theoretically possible.  If you are worried about this failure mode then consider dino oils fail at MUCH lower temperatures than synthetics do.

Oil coolers were put on bikes simply to cater to dino oils -- simply get out of that mode completely rather than spend big bucks to modify your bike unnecessarily -- change to a full synthetic oil.

Title: Re: optimum engine temp questions
Post by Routy on 07/05/10 at 07:57:37

Many water cooled engines run well over the boiling temp of 212. If it were not for coolant, and under pressure, water would boil out in a heartbeat. Even a water cooled engine is not overheated at 240, as long as the water (coolant) stays in it.
And remember, the warmer an engine runs, (to a point) the less ring and cyl wall wear there will be, not to speak of running more fuel efficient and more hp. Actually the bigger difference in temp between the engine, and the air going into it, the more efficient it runs,.....and that not speaking about humid air being that much better yet.  

Title: Re: optimum engine temp questions
Post by Serowbot on 07/05/10 at 08:15:58

My favorite summer ride is a 30 mile mountain climb to 9000ft... mostly 3rd or 4th gear...

On it, I regularly see water cooled cars and bikes pulled over,... overheated...
While my Savage doesn't even know it's climbing...

The only time I worry about overheating,... is, summertime, in traffic, caught at a light, with some kind of hold up, like a minor accident holding things up...  
then,... it'll be me in distress, more than the bike... :P...

Title: Re: optimum engine temp questions
Post by texsam on 07/05/10 at 14:06:50

well i just noticed my exhaust pipe coming  out of the engine i a little purpleish not much maybe quarter inch does that mean i am runnin to hot???? this is after 22500 mi is that bad or normal

Title: Re: optimum engine temp questions
Post by Serowbot on 07/05/10 at 14:46:41

It means nothing,... 5 min. at a traffic light can do it,... one experience with a faulty petcock,.. or one ride up a mountain...
... and you can't jet a bike properly by reading pipe color... lean or rich will blue a pipe the same... among many other things...

To me,...
taking the blue off a pipe, is like refinishing a vintage Les Paul... or cleaning the patina off fine silver...
Mine with 25,000 miles... ;D...
http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2008%5C11%5C27%5Cbikepics-1494348-full.jpg

Title: Re: optimum engine temp questions
Post by texsam on 07/05/10 at 15:09:01

cool beans man hey how can i fdound about savage rides it the sa austin tx metro area

Title: Re: optimum engine temp questions
Post by bill67 on 07/06/10 at 13:26:39


100F0C00080B021117630 wrote:
I was wonering what temp should my suzi be at operating temp
when i check it at the colling fins it registers 240 farenheight is that to high??????? what do u guys get?? i am not sure bout oil temp the difference it variations between the 2.is 240 at the fins to high buy the crank case it says 25 lowere but i need some advice am i overheating or runnin to high???

I checked mine today 88 Degress out 25 mile run averaged about 55 mph,Stuck it in the oil well 5 inches didn't hit oil but on metal 228,Put it on half way up the head 236.Kitchen digital thermometer.

Title: Re: optimum engine temp questions
Post by texsam on 07/06/10 at 15:01:29

no cam chain yet it still is very quiet so my chain seems to be fine right???

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