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Message started by Digger on 05/21/10 at 18:37:21

Title: Can't Remove Seat Using Just the OEM Tool Kit!
Post by Digger on 05/21/10 at 18:37:21

Maybe it's because I bought my bike (see signature) used and was perhaps missing the proper tool in the tool kit....but I discovered that I cannot get the seat off using just the tools in the bike's tool kit.

This could be a real show-stopper, as one could blow a fuse while riding the bike and not be able to replace it (you ARE carrying a spare fuse or two on the bike, aren't you?).

Am I missing a tool?  Are you able to get the seat off of your Savage using just the stock tool kit?

Title: Re: Can't Remove Seat Using Just the OEM Tool Kit!
Post by bill67 on 05/21/10 at 18:59:11

You can change the fuses without taking off the tank,You can pull that little rubber thing out enough to get the fuses out.

Title: Re: Can't Remove Seat Using Just the OEM Tool Kit!
Post by Serowbot on 05/21/10 at 19:02:56

I don't think you can either...  I swapped the bolts for allen heads and carry the allen wrench...  
Factory does supply two spare fuses inside the tool box lid..

Title: Re: Can't Remove Seat Using Just the OEM Tool Kit!
Post by Starlifter on 05/21/10 at 19:22:50

The factory tool kit that came with the bike? Man throw that junk out and replace with good metric tools.

Title: Re: Can't Remove Seat Using Just the OEM Tool Kit!
Post by prechermike on 05/21/10 at 19:37:05

I replaced my bolts with ball detent pins.  Just pull them out and push them in.  No tools required! :D

Title: Re: Can't Remove Seat Using Just the OEM Tool Kit!
Post by verslagen1 on 05/21/10 at 20:02:03

like precher, I moded mine before I found out.
but, the screws in mine had cross recessed, so I could've removed with a screwdriver.

I can sell you a couple of 'locking speed pins' if you like, $10 inc shipping.

just drill thru the existing brackets with a 1/4" drill.  Been using them for a year or 2.

Title: Re: Can't Remove Seat Using Just the OEM Tool Kit!
Post by Digger on 05/22/10 at 18:22:05

Thanks, all, for your comments and insight.

I decided to make a simple tool to remove the seat bolts that I could fit in the OEM toolkit.

Off to Harbor Freight for some socket caps (I used the middle one for my tool):


http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/Digger109/LS650/SeatBoltTool-SocketCapsE.jpg


Then I rummaged around and found a cheapo 3/8" drive 10mm socket.  Here are the components of the tool I made (the article on the right is the 12mm "socket" from the OEM tool kit):


http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/Digger109/LS650/SeatBoltToolAssyE.jpg


Here is what everything looks like put together (I use the screwdriver bit from the OEM toolkit as a "T-Handle" for the 12mm socket):


http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/Digger109/LS650/SeatBoltTool-CompleteE.jpg


The additional parts (the 3/8" drive socket cap and the 10mm socket) fit easily into the OEM toolkit bag, along with the rest of the tools.

Works for me!

Title: Re: Can't Remove Seat Using Just the OEM Tool Kit!
Post by earlytimz on 05/22/10 at 21:08:47

Looks good...
I had never seen those socket caps before, might hafta pick me up some.

Title: Re: Can't Remove Seat Using Just the OEM Tool Kit!
Post by Tanker2Biker on 05/23/10 at 03:25:35


3B392E28232E392622202E4B0 wrote:
I replaced my bolts with ball detent pins.  Just pull them out and push them in.  No tools required! :D


Since it seems like most of the instructions in the Clymer manual start with "Remove the seat as described in chapter..."  I like this idea, although I might use positive locking pins.

Title: Re: Can't Remove Seat Using Just the OEM Tool Kit!
Post by Aggie10 on 06/02/10 at 11:40:59


646671777C7166797D7F71140 wrote:
I replaced my bolts with ball detent pins.  Just pull them out and push them in.  No tools required! :D



Where can I get some of these? And what size?

Title: Re: Can't Remove Seat Using Just the OEM Tool Kit!
Post by verslagen1 on 06/02/10 at 11:46:17

I can get the locking version of these pins
they have 1/4" diameter shaft so all you have to do is drill out the threads in the bracket fixed to the seat.
$10 including domestic shipping

Title: Re: Can't Remove Seat Using Just the OEM Tool Kit!
Post by prechermike on 06/02/10 at 11:52:32


52534557070303360 wrote:
[quote author=646671777C7166797D7F71140 link=1274492241/0#4 date=1274495825]I replaced my bolts with ball detent pins.  Just pull them out and push them in.  No tools required! :D



Where can I get some of these? And what size?[/quote]

Not to take away from Verslagen, but I picked mine up at a hardware type store somewhere, I really don't remember.  If a Lowes type place does not have them, a tractor supply will.  They are 1/4 inch and I had to drill out the tabs on the seat, where the bolts went.

Verslagens are undoubteldy nicer than mine, but they have never come out when I didn't want them to.  I usually put a drop of oil on them when they are out, just to keep them working nice and smooth.

Hope that helps! :)

Here is the link to the original thread:

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1243333783/0

Title: Re: Can't Remove Seat Using Just the OEM Tool Kit!
Post by bill67 on 06/02/10 at 12:15:03

Best way to do the seat and make it easy and quick to get on and off is to replace the 2 bolts and the allen bolt in back,with get good american phillip  screws and do the seat with them.Ace hardware has any size you need.

Title: Re: Can't Remove Seat Using Just the OEM Tool Kit!
Post by ALfromN.H. on 06/02/10 at 13:32:33

I put some thumb screws in mine. also no tools needed to remove seat.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l246/joneeb0i/IMG_6406.jpg

Title: Re: Can't Remove Seat Using Just the OEM Tool Kit!
Post by bill67 on 06/02/10 at 13:37:07

Thats the best idea yet.

Title: Re: Can't Remove Seat Using Just the OEM Tool Kit!
Post by Aggie10 on 06/02/10 at 14:28:09

Ya ... I think i like the thumb screws too

Title: Re: Can't Remove Seat Using Just the OEM Tool Kit!
Post by cursal on 06/02/10 at 18:30:52

Why the hell didn't I think of that. Thumb screws!
Rockin idea 8-)

Title: Re: Can't Remove Seat Using Just the OEM Tool Kit!
Post by Aggie10 on 06/02/10 at 19:19:44

was there any extra drilling with the thumb screws?

Title: Re: Can't Remove Seat Using Just the OEM Tool Kit!
Post by ALfromN.H. on 06/02/10 at 19:40:29

I don't think so. I think I just got some with the same size and thread. Don't ask me what size because i have no idea.
Here's a picture of the one holdong down the back of the seat. I know its a big picture.
http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2008/07/15/bikepics-1354010-full.jpg
AL

Title: Re: Can't Remove Seat Using Just the OEM Tool Kit!
Post by babyhog on 06/03/10 at 05:26:53

I've thought about something like this for the rear of the seat to the fender.  Might work on the seat hold-down too?  But might be harder to get to with thumbs.  I've even seen these kinds with emblems, decorative colored bezels, jewels, etc. on top.
You'd have to find the right size, of course, but here's what I was thinking:
http://i10.ebayimg.com/05/i/001/28/28/2bb8_35.JPG

http://cgi.ebay.com/10-Large-Silver-Case-Thumb-Screws-6-32-Hex-Screw-/370229010893

Title: Re: Can't Remove Seat Using Just the OEM Tool Kit!
Post by Trippah on 06/03/10 at 17:04:18

So Al..do the thumb screws come in handy with recalcitrent hotel owners? :o

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