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Title: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 01/28/10 at 17:07:46 ive been asked to post this bike build up. SOOO here it is. Started as a beat up 2001 savage. So far. Mikuni 41mm flat slide pumper carb Full 1.75 stainless exhaust with straight through muffler ported exhaust port Monoshock from cbr 954 In the works cbr 900rr front end gsxr front wheel 954 rotor, zx10 caliper, custom adaptors Ducati monster m900 rear wheel swingarm, yet to be built motor work to be done. Freshen up top end, full port and polish Later on, turbo motor build cnc aluminum H beam rod water meth injection here are a few random photos, ive got alot if anyone is interested in any specific part http://i26.tinypic.com/8x9ees.jpg http://i28.tinypic.com/20nvw7.jpg http://i31.tinypic.com/2jbtkpv.jpg http://i27.tinypic.com/11rf8ub.jpg http://i28.tinypic.com/5x67wo.jpg http://i25.tinypic.com/15xo2mr.jpg http://i31.tinypic.com/262p8jl.jpg http://i32.tinypic.com/2621u7p.jpg http://i29.tinypic.com/2gsk006.jpg http://i30.tinypic.com/2ee8nyf.jpg http://i25.tinypic.com/i6cbjt.jpg http://i32.tinypic.com/vio7ec.jpg http://i32.tinypic.com/sovbyr.jpg http://i26.tinypic.com/2hrefkl.jpg http://i26.tinypic.com/3518i0h.jpg http://i28.tinypic.com/157enhy.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 01/28/10 at 17:09:06 http://i31.tinypic.com/10nt1mp.jpg http://i32.tinypic.com/huprbc.jpg http://i27.tinypic.com/szkdjq.jpg http://i35.tinypic.com/242dh.jpg http://i36.tinypic.com/4keetf.jpg http://i37.tinypic.com/4izi29.jpg http://i37.tinypic.com/4pxuo4.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 01/28/10 at 17:11:11 http://i37.tinypic.com/spg174.jpg http://i34.tinypic.com/lwb68.jpg http://i38.tinypic.com/2ik5rat.jpg http://i33.tinypic.com/2vl2rg8.jpg What say you traditional bobber guys? |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 01/28/10 at 17:13:22 http://i49.tinypic.com/4r4znc.jpg http://i47.tinypic.com/30kpnvn.jpg more work on the rotor adapter http://i50.tinypic.com/2dvjvia.jpg And turning the stem to fit the upper bearing race. http://i45.tinypic.com/27zdn6h.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 01/28/10 at 17:15:06 you can see how I smoothed the triple http://i45.tinypic.com/nd3log.jpg made a 1 piece spacer - bearing dust cap. Turned out good. http://i45.tinypic.com/2hqdkeg.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/14bj042.jpg http://i48.tinypic.com/5x4waf.jpg http://i49.tinypic.com/11rtbtv.jpg http://i47.tinypic.com/2v0n2pd.jpg http://i46.tinypic.com/2dt10dw.jpg http://i49.tinypic.com/1z2lsoy.jpg http://i49.tinypic.com/30j2r04.jpg http://i49.tinypic.com/wpdmu.jpg It gets sandblasted to even up the surface textures when done. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 01/28/10 at 17:19:53 http://i47.tinypic.com/13zwowh.jpg http://i46.tinypic.com/126ep7n.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/20ra99d.jpg http://i48.tinypic.com/23l1lw2.jpg http://i48.tinypic.com/ape2w9.jpg now to duplicate in aluminum http://i45.tinypic.com/oa6bg1.jpg http://i47.tinypic.com/1zz51d2.jpg http://i46.tinypic.com/9aa2js.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/9topdc.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/2posf38.jpg http://i48.tinypic.com/2iratk0.jpg http://i46.tinypic.com/qy5sg3.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 01/28/10 at 17:21:36 http://i46.tinypic.com/2q3r5ld.jpg http://i46.tinypic.com/2ps3al2.jpg http://i47.tinypic.com/2eda0ip.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/2aa0pdw.jpg http://i46.tinypic.com/1z2kok5.jpg out with the old http://i50.tinypic.com/33m91s7.jpg in with the new http://i46.tinypic.com/1554gm1.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 01/28/10 at 17:23:11 http://i48.tinypic.com/otj76p.jpg proposed seat position http://i50.tinypic.com/2qbt948.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/j0jt75.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by beachedsquid on 01/28/10 at 18:48:51 What tank is that second pic off of? How much modification did that fit require? Thank you. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 01/28/10 at 19:06:45 honda cm 400. the tunnel needs a little shaping if you want the tank to sit that low. and you might have to modify the front of the stock seat. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Boule’tard on 01/28/10 at 19:08:33 Master builder pays us a visit!! :D Man, I almost signed onto customfighters just to suggest a couple of things. I guess popping out the tank dents with ice is a moot point now.. but if you are still looking for a more "old school" petcock, the one from the yamaha raptor 660 will bolt right on. And it's a manual one. I switched just to get rid of the diaphragm/vac line which tends to fail on these bikes. Edit: and are you going to mount a roller or something behind the countershaft sprocket? |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by SimonTuffGuy on 01/28/10 at 19:11:57 Wow... That's a pretty cool build you've got going. :) Nice. Nice TJ in the background there too. ;) |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 01/28/10 at 19:14:58 Thanks Boule. your always helpful 2 problems with raptor prtcock. one, i hate the stock location. Two, well i guess pics describe this one better http://i50.tinypic.com/2m3hc10.jpg http://i47.tinypic.com/oqcd4o.jpg If you look at the tank you see the dents have been heated. well i tried the heat and ice trick. pulled them bout half way out. even used air duster up side down. gonna freeze a big chunk of ice and try it again, but the dents were pretty bad. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 01/28/10 at 19:15:59 wish that TJ was mine, i just work on it |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 01/28/10 at 19:19:03 nope no roller. here is a rough swingarm design. http://i36.tinypic.com/mh6cz4.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by PerrydaSavage on 01/29/10 at 00:28:02 That is one WICKED build my friend!! Awesome pics too! Only thing I would do is run astraight pipe type of exhaust below the engine casing ... would streamline the already streamlined looks even more ... |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by verslagen1 on 01/29/10 at 07:11:07 that's a good idea perry and it would hide the joint of the false hard tail. 8-) |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by dasch on 01/29/10 at 09:19:47 This is a piece of work!!! Literally! All the best. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by mick on 01/30/10 at 03:30:29 Do you live next door to a junk yard ? or do you live in the junk yard. Seems you can lay your hand on any piece you need at the drop of a hat. Still a mystery, Bobber ? cafe racer ? flat tracker ? eather way looks like you are having fun. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Toymaker on 01/30/10 at 04:02:49 Very, very nice. So...get her done and come run the Dragon with us... I betcha she'll run REALLY good! :) |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Boule’tard on 01/30/10 at 22:22:52 7B7F757D627E737A7F7B736F160 wrote:
Not really, the dude is dirt poor and has to barter with a junk dealer and ask for donations of raw material so he can fabricate all those parts. I guess the term "starving artist" didn't come from nowhere. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Oldfeller on 01/30/10 at 23:05:03 Perry, You have skils and will that are far beyond me -- you have hand fabricated your own bike which is a thing I dreamed of but never had time nor will nor money to do. You've done it, with a little bit of funds and a whole lot of gumption -- my hat is off to you my friend. Please keep a weather eye on the composite material adaptor bracket on the front rotor mount -- racers use similar composite bits and pieces and they can develop cracks in a race season or three -- one dude got into a crash up like a decade or more ago because his pit crew didn't notice a small crack in his state of the art composite piece that very slowly grew into a big crack. The composite material had very slowly delaminated on him in a very creeping insidious fashion due to stress & vibration over time .... part of his issue was his crew kept repainting his bike and the crack grew about at the same speed as the paint build up over the crack did. Now they have a racing rule against painting stressed (critical) composite pieces for that very reason. Best to you dude, my hat is off to you !! Oldfeller |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by trublu on 01/31/10 at 05:08:09 ;) WOW!! Dude you have some amazing skills!! 8-) Tip of my old faded Mack hat to ya as well. 8-) 8-) |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 01/31/10 at 19:45:46 thanks everyone. Thats a little of an overstatement bouletard, its not really like that. odfeller, that bracket is for mock up purposes only. its to see if I like the design before i replicate it in aluminum. But thank you for the concern. oh and the high pipe is staying, I love it. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by smokin_blue on 02/01/10 at 03:24:24 A kindred spirit I have found. A tip of the hat on a great job in progress! |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/01/10 at 16:36:42 Here are some progress pics http://i47.tinypic.com/2iaa6wx.jpg seat rear tire clearance. rear wheel is all the way forward in adjusters http://i47.tinypic.com/24glpfr.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/uub94.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/01/10 at 16:37:20 http://i49.tinypic.com/2h6hycm.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by runwyrlph on 02/01/10 at 16:55:27 i doubt if i have enough knowledge to appreciate how cool that is! |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Boule’tard on 02/01/10 at 19:42:59 I'm not wrapping my head around it so great either. Cool looking swingarm pivot, but on the chain side I still don't see how the redesigned swingarm will stay out of the way if the pivot point is the same.. we'll just have to see a photo of the built swinger and have one of those DURrrr OH YEAH moments. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/01/10 at 20:38:19 pivot on chain side is different, swingarm is totally asymmetrical. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/02/10 at 16:06:16 made and fitted some gussets. all 1/4 inch plate. Lots and lots of grinding. my arms are numb. http://i45.tinypic.com/292474m.jpg http://i48.tinypic.com/2dudrw6.jpg http://i47.tinypic.com/348jdja.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Boule’tard on 02/02/10 at 17:06:05 Good job, I'm sure that frame's as rigid as it ever was. Have you worked out the geometry of the shock mount/swingarm/tire clearance and all that? |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/02/10 at 17:16:31 Yep. old swingarm was same way, this one just uses the different wheel. Shock will mount 1" closer to pivot for more leverage. it was too stiff. Might even swap springs out. there will be plenty of tire clearance to shock and swingarm. tire to seat swingarm might get close with both at full compression. might have to play with some bumpstops. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/04/10 at 20:44:34 http://i47.tinypic.com/zlqa7n.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/2hr24ht.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/05/10 at 16:48:14 http://i49.tinypic.com/b714sn.jpg http://i46.tinypic.com/2istvgo.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/jhyd8j.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Boule’tard on 02/05/10 at 18:59:17 First "leaf springer" seat ever made? :D I was thinking a good way to finish pulling the tank dents would be a cheap/decent enough stud welder (http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=98357) that comes with a slide hammer. Or if you're good with a TIG welder on thin metal, use that to weld a few studs on. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/06/10 at 01:35:26 You can rent a stud gun/ dent puller setup. Cut & grind the studs off. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/08/10 at 17:55:56 I plan on building a stud puller - slide hammer. already got the materials, just need a chuck. holy butt http://i50.tinypic.com/rvjdj8.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by verslagen1 on 02/08/10 at 18:36:58 Stud puller? You put a tire on that beast, it's gonna be a stump puller!!! 8-) |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by mpescatori on 02/10/10 at 04:38:42 Truckinduc, I absolutely LOVE that instrument cluster !!! http://i46.tinypic.com/126ep7n.jpg What instruments are they ? I believe I can see an oil pressure gauge, and perhaps a fuel level meter... Would the others be an oil temperature gauge and a voltmeter for the battery ? Any chance of sourcing similar gauges ? Thanks 8-) |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by dasch on 02/10/10 at 07:14:11 Duc, you are something else, my friend. Most of us like to tinker a bit here and there, but this... I absolutely love it. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/10/10 at 12:10:01 shortened the exhaust http://i47.tinypic.com/v80lu0.jpg rolled the seat pan edge more http://i45.tinypic.com/mt17vs.jpg turbo location, proposed http://i46.tinypic.com/qwy1jq.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/10/10 at 12:12:34 ok here is something i cant decide on. Should i box in the bottom of the seat like in the right. OR leave it open like on the left? if i box it the under side will have a few dimple die holes. http://i49.tinypic.com/o53vio.jpg what would you do? |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/10/10 at 12:15:52 6D7065736361746F7269000 wrote:
Well I wish ihad more info for you but I dont. All i know is the gauges came out of WWII airplanes. They have raydon in them and could be toxic. The upper gauge is a mystery. It reads, "pointer must fall exactly within green zone" Lower gauge is oil psi, fuel psi, and oil temp. The fuel psi gauge will come in handy when im under boost. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by dasch on 02/11/10 at 09:14:41 Hey, rear brake rotor on front pulley! You stole that idea from that spanish dude, admit it! ;) Man, this is one mean thingy... |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by prsavage on 02/11/10 at 10:03:47 I vote for leaving the seat bottom open, more interesting to see the skeleton of it. I love the soft tail swingarm mod, you are a very talented builder/fabricator. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/11/10 at 18:01:27 333624343F570 wrote:
Honestly I wanted to do it before i saw that bike. Mine will be much more involved than his, along with the rest of the bike. Im recessing my stator cover and the rotor will be inward so the stator cover is the widest part. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by dasch on 02/12/10 at 04:02:57 Phiu! Cool idea. I kinda like the looks of exposed rotor, but... Have you considered stock brake rotors / calipers they put on front and rear on 50cc scooters all over europe? They are smaller than the one on your picture. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/13/10 at 17:25:47 5451435358300 wrote:
I really like the size of the one ive got. Its off of my 80cc honda racebike. too small and you loose braking force, leverage, and have less surface area and material to dissipate heat. hope its not too small and i dont warp it with too much heat. I do tend to trail brake alot with the rear. oh ya and im probably gonna use a big 4 pot caliper with it, if it will fit. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/13/10 at 17:26:15 started on a rotor adapter at school friday. http://i46.tinypic.com/1ikj8l.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/13/10 at 19:54:44 been doing a little math. im gonna run a 17t 45t sprocket combo to give me a 2.647 final drive ratio. taller than the stock 2.956 ratio. also designing my rotor adaptor. its gonna be trick as hell. lots of stator cover modification necessary. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/13/10 at 20:08:45 worked on my adjustable timing pickup. the insulation on the wires was old and hard and cracked and came off instantly. not sure if i can fix it or not. any ideas or suggestions? |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by dasch on 02/14/10 at 02:46:05 heat wrap? Or coat of paint after soldering. I've done that on fiat Panda's distributor pickup, and that thing moves constantly. Still runs. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/15/10 at 14:44:21 http://i45.tinypic.com/xcw2z4.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/2vto55e.jpg http://i46.tinypic.com/286wgb5.jpg http://i47.tinypic.com/5d5ftf.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/2ur9usk.jpg working with some tight clearances. Gonna take about 1/4" out of the radius of the rotor. caliper will mount to the side cover. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Boule’tard on 02/15/10 at 19:29:29 113730262E2C2B213026450 wrote:
Most people who convert to chain drive go with taller gearing too. That's going to be one fancy piece that seals your magneto cover back up! Sorry no helpful suggestions are coming to mind, I can only cheerlead. :D |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by mpescatori on 02/16/10 at 01:54:16 715750464E4C4B415046250 wrote:
Honestly I wanted to do it before i saw that bike. Mine will be much more involved than his, along with the rest of the bike. Im recessing my stator cover and the rotor will be inward so the stator cover is the widest part. [/quote] Thanks for the info on the instruments, I guess I'll have to try with the Land Rover cluster http://www.holden.co.uk/getImage2008.asp?path=e%3A%5Cdomains%5Choldenvc%5Cwww%5Cproductimages%5C070%5F245%2Ejpg&WorH=w&max=300 Oil pressure and oil temperature + fuel level if you can fin a suitable plunger/float. :) Talk about the rear breake, I like the idea BUT if you brake too hard the drive belt will jump all over the place and you'll be without a rear brake (could be without a usable drive belt, too...) :-/ |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Boule’tard on 02/16/10 at 07:35:03 495441574745504B564D240 wrote:
I think Trucknduc will be using sprockets (17t 45t sprocket combo) so drive slippage shouldn't be a problem. The only disadvantage I can imagine is that when the force on the chain changes direction, the braking will hit more suddenly as the lash is taken up, which will break the tire loose more easily. Speaking of breaking the back tire loose, I'd LMAO to see someone "backing in" a Savage. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/16/10 at 08:20:57 496F687E76747379687E1D0 wrote:
liquid electrical tape or rubber handle dip? |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/16/10 at 12:43:30 got some more machining done on my adapter. ought to finish it tomorrow. http://i48.tinypic.com/a2yjjp.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by BurnPgh on 02/16/10 at 12:47:03 Your work is a true inspiration. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/16/10 at 12:52:19 yes the disadvantage is lash in the chain, but shouldnt be anymore noticeable than accelerating through the chain. plus the braking force will go through the cush drive also. there is less harmful force put on the chain during braking than accelerating. the big singles power pulses put much more stress on the chain. think of it as assisted engine braking. and with the stock rear tire i wouldnt really back it in, but i would light it up and slide out of turns. Its a wonder how fun that is on dry rotted tires. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Boule’tard on 02/16/10 at 13:14:34 Yeah, I guess all you have to do is let off the throttle so the engine takes the slack out, then brake. Just a small adjustment in braking technique. Man, once you get that "Suzuki Savage" all finished and badass... temporarily put on a sissy bar, saddlebags, leather fringe and misc. cruiser crap and go sliding it around a go-kart track. I'd be laughing 2 days straight, especially if you passed a couple of sportbikes and sumos ;D |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/16/10 at 16:05:32 http://i49.tinypic.com/3165ieh.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by smokin_blue on 02/16/10 at 18:00:56 4D6B6C7A7270777D6C7A190 wrote:
did you include any ratio change due to the change in rear tire size? |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/16/10 at 18:11:17 http://i50.tinypic.com/2mfhvp.jpg Stock ducati rotor size http://i50.tinypic.com/5khgci.jpg Chain clearance http://i45.tinypic.com/aau7ag.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/16/10 at 18:13:06 7F6163676562536E6079690C0 wrote:
did you include any ratio change due to the change in rear tire size?[/quote] thats just the actual gearing change. The tire is slightly taller than stock. by like 3/4" |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by mpescatori on 02/17/10 at 04:41:07 Nice brake/chain drive setup you have there :) BUT take care, if the chain gets a little loose and starts wobbling up/down a bit it'll gnaw on the brake caliper... :P |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by dasch on 02/17/10 at 05:08:21 Duc, good job, very good job. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/17/10 at 16:17:24 http://i49.tinypic.com/2hs6yoz.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/17/10 at 18:37:53 http://i45.tinypic.com/20zy9hi.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/17/10 at 18:46:54 http://i49.tinypic.com/ures9.jpg http://i47.tinypic.com/24xdpbq.jpg Not to bad for my first try on a mill. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Boule’tard on 02/17/10 at 20:44:17 Ridiculous. There are skilled machinists around here, but nobody that good *and* as creative. "The apple doesn't fall far from the tree." |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by John_D on 02/17/10 at 22:51:31 Not bad?! That flippin' awesome! :o I really can't wait to see what this bike eventually ends up like. Should really be something to see. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Violent_Rage on 02/17/10 at 23:51:03 002621373F3D3A302137540 wrote:
this is a masterpiece! :) |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by dasch on 02/18/10 at 05:44:39 Not too bad, he says... :) |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/21/10 at 16:22:32 http://i46.tinypic.com/2n81xl3.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/2aewg78.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/21/10 at 17:14:10 http://i47.tinypic.com/vimpmg.jpg http://i49.tinypic.com/2ltoewx.jpg http://i48.tinypic.com/2njfas.jpg http://i49.tinypic.com/2urutrr.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/abm4ir.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/21/10 at 17:26:36 thinking about running this headlight, if I can make a modern bulb work. What do you people think? Painted black or OD of course. http://i48.tinypic.com/fyfonm.jpg http://i47.tinypic.com/2aqpz6.jpg http://i46.tinypic.com/5l9d37.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by John_D on 02/21/10 at 19:52:21 Cool headlight, what'd it come off of? Looking at that gas line location, I'm hoping you never spring a leak! ;D :o |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by dasch on 02/22/10 at 04:54:32 Looks good, hanging that low, and with that flat spot on the top. Aggressive as the whole thing is. Duc, you are crazy, I'll give you that! ;D |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Boule’tard on 02/22/10 at 07:48:47 It's a cool looking light, would definitely be killer in OD green. Is it off a scooter with an integrated headlight/speedo? If so, can you see the speedo from the rider position? It might look a bit silly if there's a guage there that can't be seen. I don't know if you plan to glass over the speedo or not.. it might be a good place for another aircraft guage. :D |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by dasch on 02/22/10 at 10:20:46 You gonna turbo that thing? |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/22/10 at 12:10:16 here is what the headlight is off of. Honda Express moped. http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo49/psilverz/honda_express_1977.jpg Ya its got a speedo that reads up to a whopping 35 mph. Most likely do an aluminum cover rivited on. Bike will eventually be turbo'd. when I have enough money for an oil pump, water pump, fuel pump, Fuel pressure regulator, intercooler and ignition management. I need to find the same size light for the headlight. its got a 15 watt sealed beam. Id like to go with a 35W HID H4 bulb and matching bucket. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by bill67 on 02/22/10 at 12:31:39 Truck all your work looks really good,But I don't think that brake is going to work very good. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/22/10 at 15:54:09 why exactly is that |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by bill67 on 02/22/10 at 16:00:12 Because its not on the wheel,Seems to me if that would work better cars would have brakes on the transmission,And its not as direct. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/22/10 at 16:16:04 actually it works really well. Its more powerful than the brake being on the wheel. Lots of cars, trucks, and buses have trans brakes. You have the advantage of gear reduction on your side. wouldnt work on most cars because they have open differentials. The size rotor im using is HUGE for the brake setup. Id almost be willing to bet this rear brake setup will be more powerful than the stock savage FRONT setup. Moto GP used this system in the 70's. banned it because of chain breakage. Chains have gotten much stronger sense. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/22/10 at 16:19:58 http://www.powerhorsecustoms.com/images/transbrake.jpg pinion brake on rockwell axle http://www.crittergitters.net/DSCN1584.JPG http://www.tricodriveshafts.com/images/black%20coupe/driveshaft%20brake%20011.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/22/10 at 16:22:30 bondo less dent removal http://i48.tinypic.com/lfckh.jpg preview http://i49.tinypic.com/25s3c79.jpg self portrait http://i49.tinypic.com/2mcwu1s.jpg alot better. still not smooth, http://i50.tinypic.com/245wqap.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/22/10 at 16:30:01 think im gonna try my hand at smoothing the rough sheetmetal with lead. Anyone ever work with it before? Gonna look up some tutorials on it. Tips or tricks will be greatly appreciated. And as always I love comments and or criticism on this build. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/22/10 at 16:37:24 70's moto GP bike http://i50.tinypic.com/k2zt38.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Boule’tard on 02/22/10 at 18:36:39 The tank looks almost smooth enough to apply a few coats of primer, sand and call it good. I'd be leery of sanding or grinding lead though. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by John_D on 02/22/10 at 18:41:21 604641575F5D5A504157340 wrote:
Actually, yes I have, but it's been quite a while ago, back in school. Out teacher said it was optional, since it's a hazardous substance, but it's good to know, and not many teach it anymore. Plus the "lead" sticks they sell these days are pretty much lead free I believe, mostly tin and something I can't remember. Anyway, The Eastwood Company has a lot of supplies for this stuff, I used to get their magazines all the time: http://search.eastwood.com/search?w=lead&p=Q&ts=custom The gist of it is: you have to prepare the surface, you can use a flux made for it, but our teacher just had us use acid-core solder, it'll stick to the metal (clean metal!) also. Heat the surface until the solder will melt and stick to it, then smear it over the surface with steel wool until you've got your area covered. Then heat your stick of lead until it's soft enough to smear some dabs onto your area, keeping the area warm enough for the lead to stick. Careful not to overheat it, it'll run off, and potentially ruin your shoes, not to mention the feet inside them! :o Then you'll need something to shape the lead; a wooden paddle coated with either parafin or beeswax will work, beeswax is best since it doesn't smoke, and smells good! Just melt a little puddle of wax with your torch, and smear the paddle around in it. This keeps the lead from sticking to the paddle. Use the paddle to shape the lead to your liking, then let it cool off. Use a body file (http://www.eastwood.com/file-holder-flexible-with-mill-cut-body-file.html) to fine tune it, and wet sand to finish. A power grinder or sander is not recommended, since it throws lead dust into the air, not good! :P I'm sure I've left stuff out, I haven't done it in over 15 years, but that's the basics. It's actually pretty easy, and has the advantage of durability, and the shrinkage/expansion rate more closely matches that of the metal underneath. Our teacher recommended it over plastic for things like door pillars, and anything with a sharp corner likely to get chipped out if using plastic filler. My $.02! :D |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/22/10 at 18:49:06 Nope no paint boule, other than clear coat. THANKS JOHN D! That really helps. My only real concern was the tinning process and getting the lead to adhere to the steel. Most of the spots are gonna be very thin, about 1/16th at most. So acid core solder will help it bond. Cant wait to try it tomorrow. Better finish all my welding first though, I could just see all my hard work melting off. ill take pics |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by John_D on 02/22/10 at 19:53:44 705651474F4D4A405147240 wrote:
You're welcome. Hey, I actually gave advice! Hope it works... :-/ If the solder doesn't work for some reason, try the commercial stuff, although the solder should work. We alternately used some kinda acid flux, and applied the lead stick directly to the metal after wiping the substrate with the flux. Not sure exactly what it was, I think some kind of mild acid. Looked like water and had a slightly sour odor to it. If you have to weld the tank later, as long as it's not near enough the lead to heat it up much, it shouldn't hurt it. If I remember right, there's some kinda clay-like substance you can put in a line around areas you're welding on thin sheet metal, that acts like a kind of heat sink, to keep the heat from spreading to surrounding areas quite as much. A welding supply shop should know more about it. Edit: Well whadayaknow? Eastwood has it too! http://www.eastwood.com/coldshield-thermal-paste.html http://www.eastwood.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/250x160/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/p25063.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by dasch on 02/23/10 at 02:55:55 Old Citroens (GS and 2CV) had them too, brakes on the tranny. Hope this pictures shows up: http://www.citroenet.org.uk/passenger-cars/michelin/2cv/images/2cva-2.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/25/10 at 17:05:18 Made a threaded female adapter at school. Not as easy as it looks, internal threads can be a pregnant dog. http://i49.tinypic.com/2v8sflu.jpg shaped the tank how I wanted it, and tacked it in. http://i46.tinypic.com/4qm0z7.jpg I oversized the threads slightly to account for the shrinkage due to welding. It slill was a little tight afterward, but a little tap magic and its all good. http://i50.tinypic.com/9bgpb6.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/25/10 at 17:06:03 got my front sprocket. apparently ive got something mixed up. the 520 sprocket i ordered doesnt fit what i thought was a 520 chain. Its also narrower than my ducati rear sprocket. Can anyone mic their 520 sprocket with so i can compare? http://i50.tinypic.com/ibkw79.jpg http://i46.tinypic.com/2cqhggi.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/25/10 at 17:06:53 not that you havent seen this view before http://i48.tinypic.com/34t7oys.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/jr8ljb.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by smokin_blue on 02/26/10 at 03:57:14 755354424A484F455442210 wrote:
Yo Truck! I am running 520 sprockets and they mic out at .230" thick. My old 530's off my GSXR are .430. If your Duc sprocket is in between then it is probably for a 525 chain. Best resource I have found for sprocket info is to use the catalog and then the cross refernce resources on www.jtsprockets.com Hey when you get a chance take a look at the build I am working on at http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1257039622/0 then take a look at my previous 2 bikes at http://street-unique.home.att.net/ I think you will like Bad Attitude Keep up the great build! |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by miker on 02/27/10 at 06:41:02 77757F7676100 wrote:
I agree- boxing it in hides your skills- which are worth showing. This is how choppers are built- by hand in your shop, not by writing a 30K check to some guys with a bunch of sponsers. Fine work! |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by miker on 02/27/10 at 07:00:57 2D26232379784F0 wrote:
I'm going to have to disagree on this one. I have seen several brakes set up this way- even from the factory. The brake is stopping a bike that weighs in at <400 lbs. even though it apparently may be going very fast. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/28/10 at 18:31:36 http://i45.tinypic.com/15n2hwx.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/6sdtau.jpg http://i46.tinypic.com/2580ahy.jpg rear tank mount done |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 02/28/10 at 18:38:37 4C5250545651605D534A5A3F0 wrote:
Yo Truck! I am running 520 sprockets and they mic out at .230" thick. My old 530's off my GSXR are .430. If your Duc sprocket is in between then it is probably for a 525 chain. Best resource I have found for sprocket info is to use the catalog and then the cross refernce resources on www.jtsprockets.com Hey when you get a chance take a look at the build I am working on at http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1257039622/0 then take a look at my previous 2 bikes at http://street-unique.home.att.net/ I think you will like Bad Attitude Keep up the great build! [/quote] Yep mine is a 525 it is .282" Really cool Smokin Blue. My dad and I are building a Cafe out of a Savage motor also. Ill see If I can find some pictures of it. Im also really into street fighters, just finished building a honda, and ill eventually finish my Ducati. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 03/01/10 at 16:07:02 steering damper is all mounted up. Gonna cut out a gusset for it tomorrow. http://i45.tinypic.com/w8s0f7.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/2947a6v.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by smokin_blue on 03/01/10 at 20:20:34 do you really need a steering damper on this one? With the rake I doubt you would put it into a tank slapper. Just my opinion. Still love the build though! |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by dasch on 03/02/10 at 00:13:30 Is that lead on the tank? Man, you do act quick! |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 03/02/10 at 04:01:35 Well Take a wild guess at what the rake is. It comes in at a whopping 24 degrees. Thats steep. and really steep for a savage. Therefore I think its a good idea. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 03/02/10 at 04:02:38 Here is the savage cafe my dad and I are building Smoking Blue. http://i45.tinypic.com/2jam1w8.jpg http://i47.tinypic.com/2ufr39k.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by dasch on 03/02/10 at 08:36:53 Oh my... Can you keep us up to date on this one too?? |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 03/02/10 at 19:30:23 reshaped the gauge pod to make it lower profile, I like it more now. http://i50.tinypic.com/2n7s76.jpg Sure thing Dasch |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 03/03/10 at 13:51:03 got the sprocket turned. Now I have to drill and tap the sprocket and rotor carrier together. http://i49.tinypic.com/120p2q0.jpg http://i47.tinypic.com/2a8s09z.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/bim5wg.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by smokin_blue on 03/05/10 at 04:41:53 123433252D2F28223325460 wrote:
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) Ok love that one! (PS I like the old Slab Side sittin in the back ground. I had an '86 that I sold once I got the 1100 done.) Did you guys machine your own head for that one? Also, did you mod the steering head or just shorten the fork/jack the back by that much to get to 24 deg? (oh ya, and at that point I fully agree) |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 03/07/10 at 17:40:35 Nope, the stock head is under there. Its gonna simulate a Dual Over head cam racebike from the 50's. No neck modifications on my savage, although Its about where I want it. Forks are stock length cbr 900rr. and its actually the same rake and trail numbers of the cbr. Havent figured out the swingarm angle yet. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 03/08/10 at 21:17:32 popped my clutch cover off cause i knew the plunger was over extended. Im designing a manual CCT that can be adjusted from the outside of the engine. Anyone know if there actually is an upgraded cam chain? Ive seen alot of talk but no actual product. Also plan on slotting the cam sprocket so I can adjust cam timing. http://i45.tinypic.com/2vjudti.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/af8xer.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by verslagen1 on 03/08/10 at 21:41:36 The super savage cam chains are sold out for this year as far as I know. There was one for re-sale in the market place. Manual externally adjusted cam chain tensioner (I drool) Like to see what you come up with. I've been perusing the GS fleabay lot trolling for goodies. And noticed the cam chain adjusters, manual of course. One of my ideas (a long time ago in a far...) was to drill and tap the rear of the cylinder right behind the rear cam chain guide. A bolt with a heavy captive spring pushing on the back of the guide might just be the ticket. But then one of those adjusters... excuse me need a tissue. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 03/08/10 at 22:19:55 well ive got it designed, just need to make a blueprint and make it. Its really simple. I used to make manual CCT's for honda VTR's. I couldnt keep up with the demand. Only downside to this design is I have to drill and weld a bung in the block, but if you havent already caught on that doesnt really bother me. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/08/10 at 23:18:54 392A3D3C232E282A217E4F0 wrote:
One of your best posts in a long time, clever, funny AND informative. Great idea. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 03/17/10 at 14:38:43 http://i40.tinypic.com/35krgv9.jpg http://i40.tinypic.com/1rqhdc.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 03/17/10 at 17:10:08 turn this into this http://i41.tinypic.com/331j3uq.jpg http://i42.tinypic.com/6s7wgy.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 03/17/10 at 17:43:07 http://i39.tinypic.com/34jbod2.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 03/18/10 at 19:12:19 http://i44.tinypic.com/x21e2v.jpg http://i41.tinypic.com/fcoh1w.jpg http://i43.tinypic.com/35kk2g6.jpg http://i43.tinypic.com/34ywkjn.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 03/18/10 at 19:50:21 Hope I didnt remove too much material http://i42.tinypic.com/2rzx4p1.jpg http://i41.tinypic.com/2sa5f.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Boule’tard on 03/18/10 at 20:59:40 Looks like jewelry dude. CNC or old-skool machine work? I'm not sure if that's a 17in motard wheel or not, but the huge-ass brake and fork legs sure make it look like one. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by John_D on 03/19/10 at 00:25:09 That's some purdy mill work there! :o |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 03/21/10 at 20:00:33 777A60797061746771150 wrote:
Its all manual. Had to get the bolt hole spacing and offsets spot on, then the rest was aesthetic and lightening. Turned out real nice even though you cant really see it. Im kind of a perfectionist and I take pride in all of my work. sometimes it makes builds take WAY too long. The wheel is from a GSXR. Forks are from a CBR 900RR, rotor form a Honda 954, and the caliper from a ZX10 R. Hope Ill be able to do some stoppies in the future. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/22/10 at 08:33:43 How many hours in that bracket? I was a bit concerned with the lack of a radius on the flat with the ditch cut in it, running the length, but, on looking, that area is under compression, not tension. Very nice looking job. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 03/22/10 at 12:31:00 Around 3 hours total over 2 days. Most of the adapter is in compression. Its designed alot like an H beam connecting rod. I may cut both brackets off the forks at a later date and machine and weld a new radial mount to the fork. Maybe. Made a pin for my tube bender today. gonna make a roller for it tomorrow. Then Ill be able to start the swingarm when the tube gets here. 1" .125" wall DOM for the swingarm. stock frame size is around 1.1" so it should match up pretty well. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 03/23/10 at 19:01:34 OK. Anyone know anything about Hurst Airheart calipers? I have A single piston hydraulic one that I know wont work worth a nuts. apparently they never did. ALTHOUGH if I could find another one id flip the second one and use it as a twin piston caliper. With my rear brake setup the caliper doesnt have to be that strong to be effective due to the rotor's high rpm. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 03/23/10 at 19:16:49 filled abd smoothed all pinholes in seat. finished its shaping and powder coated it. crappy cell pic, camera died. http://i40.tinypic.com/vdcsj4.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Yonuh Adisi on 03/24/10 at 06:07:19 I can NOT wait to see this thing finished. Who has a time machine so I can jump ahead and see this thing? :) ;) :) |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 03/24/10 at 18:43:57 Thanks. Im pushing harder to get it ridable as My big brothers memorial ride is coming up soon. In other news, I have a little article you guys can read if you like. Its about one of my other bikes. http://www.customfighters.com/2327/20082009-winter-buildoff-part-3-pros-choice-winner/ |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 03/24/10 at 19:52:53 lots more tank work today. Also frame work. Tank is 95% done. http://i43.tinypic.com/16g9zbp.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 03/25/10 at 14:43:52 bung hole drain http://i43.tinypic.com/n4will.jpg I machined all missing pieces for tubing bender. So the swinger mockup begins. http://i44.tinypic.com/4qhq8m.jpg Radius is just about perfect. http://i42.tinypic.com/2ih8ll3.jpg and no the swinger will not be aluminum. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by serenity3743 on 03/26/10 at 05:00:38 All I can say is WOW! |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by miker on 03/26/10 at 16:11:25 It is a pleasure watching this build. Thanks for sharing it with us. You are an artist. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 03/29/10 at 13:40:46 started a tail light http://i43.tinypic.com/2rwxe0l.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by wolfmrp on 03/30/10 at 19:59:27 Watching this build happen is truly inspiring. Thanks for sharing. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by dasch on 03/31/10 at 08:25:26 You didn't turne that light on a lathe? Out of a solid aluminum stock? Man, you can start selling that thing easily. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 03/31/10 at 13:43:22 ya I turned it on a lathe. Its 2.4" diameter. About like a stock blinker. I wanted it small but bright. Ill be using an H3 halogen bulb. Resisted to 6v for tail light and 12v for brake light. Hope it doesnt melt the lens. http://i40.tinypic.com/zjyrv6.jpg http://i39.tinypic.com/106dbhh.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 03/31/10 at 16:29:01 made a heat shield after 2 pairs of pants caught fire. not sure if I like it yet. Tell me if i should keep it, change it, scrap it. http://i40.tinypic.com/1zmknq0.jpg http://i42.tinypic.com/5cg2lh.jpg http://i43.tinypic.com/jp79xu.jpg thinking about running drag bars. They are lower than the clip ons. http://i40.tinypic.com/25au4hd.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by dasch on 03/31/10 at 22:34:12 I like the heat shild. Complements the seat. Match the color - and it's great, IMO. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Toymaker on 04/06/10 at 06:05:51 I have been watching this build since the beginning. I work in wood, so I understand the skill and ingenious use of material... But, you sir, are truly an artist. Thank you for sharing. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 04/06/10 at 18:17:43 modified the cam chain tensioner so i can ride it until the full engine rebuild and i can make a better one. http://i42.tinypic.com/2a5eigx.jpg wrapped the exhaust and attached the heat shield, now just need to dirty it up. http://i40.tinypic.com/2wm2wxs.jpg http://i39.tinypic.com/25pra6c.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/07/10 at 06:20:04 Are you gonna make a whole new tensioner? If you do, will you be using the same tooth spacing? |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 04/07/10 at 17:48:48 ill be making a threaded manual tensioner. Infinitely adjustable. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 04/07/10 at 19:53:05 starting this tomorrow at school http://filebox.vt.edu/users/maperez/Render1.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/08/10 at 05:56:36 You gonna put some fork tube protectors on it? |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 04/08/10 at 12:39:11 Well that is a rendering of the fork brace im gonna make. clamps with formed sheetmetal in the middle. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 04/08/10 at 12:56:37 roughed out the clamps today http://i41.tinypic.com/288sd4.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 04/08/10 at 19:04:37 so I got a question for you savage motor guys. I plan on building up the stock motor before I turbo It. Here are the plans. stage 2 cam extensive port and polish. reshape exhaust port, weld in where ill remove part of the rocker box. 5 angle valve job adjustable ignition timing adjustable cam timing. All this will be free except the cam. BUT i had a thought. I plan on building a shorter connecting rod from aluminum for the boost. To lower the compression down to 8 to 1. Here is the idea. Would a slightly longer connecting rod work to bump up compression? What about piston head clearance? I would shave the head but there is already enough cam chain stretch untill I can get the upgraded chain. So what do you think? Also does the savage have a press together crank or a rod that bolts together at the lower rod end bearing? |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/09/10 at 00:36:57 103631272F2D2A203127440 wrote:
Yea, but, but,, what about some fork tube protectors poking up? Like the Superbrace has.. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by jef.savage on 04/09/10 at 05:57:06 The rod is one piece, the crank presses together.http://images.powersportsnetwork.com/fiche/images/SUZUKI/1986/Motorcycles/1884_5.gif |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 04/09/10 at 13:46:58 http://i39.tinypic.com/2i12oo6.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 04/09/10 at 13:51:02 fork brace clamps are ah clamping http://i44.tinypic.com/2eq5d0m.jpg http://i41.tinypic.com/24zyo7q.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by kerosene on 04/09/10 at 14:20:06 17313620282A2D273620430 wrote:
yea... I dont like the picture... too much clothes on the bike... lets try your gf in a bikini and maybe I'll like the bike just a little more. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by kk lewi on 04/09/10 at 19:07:29 sorry to sound ignorant but what school are you in? I would love to take a few classes in what ever you are taking! |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by babyhog on 04/10/10 at 05:34:50 656871737C7A7C1D0 wrote:
I've been wanting to ask the same question.... |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Savage machinist on 04/10/10 at 11:23:54 Hey there bud!Awesome bike!I did something similar a couple years ago and thought you might like some pics.You did a great job!Mine had a 2000 GSXR 750 fork.I made adapters to use the stock front wheel and to mount one of the Gsxr front rotors on it with one Gsxr front caliper, stopped awesome.The engine was internally stock with a homemade air cleaner and the carbon fiber yoshimura muffler from the Gsxr.The swingarm was stock with the addition of the Gsxr rear shock and linkage,that thing rode great.I had an accident last July and can't ride anymore but still love bikes.I just wanted to praise you for doing such a good job and tell you to please be careful,wear your helmet and keep an eye on EVERYBODY else on the road.If I can help you holler at me. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 04/11/10 at 15:46:35 Sounds awesome Savage Machinist. I would love some pictures of it. My knee is still really messed up from my accident. It wont bend anymore that 80 degrees. I cant even do stairs. I wear full gear every time I ride. Im crippled because of a lack of knee protection. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 04/11/10 at 17:22:11 started on the sheetmetal center section of the brace http://i40.tinypic.com/2qu7wc1.jpg http://i39.tinypic.com/7083le.jpg http://i44.tinypic.com/aorkg1.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 04/11/10 at 19:38:51 Finally got a replacement camera, its got some ice features so I had to play with it. http://i44.tinypic.com/214edzb.jpg http://i43.tinypic.com/289a5xe.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Violent_Rage on 04/12/10 at 00:51:54 Man you're definitely a metal artist! |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by mpescatori on 04/12/10 at 03:24:37 587E796F67656268796F0C0 wrote:
I won't comment on the rideress... 8-) that's your property 8-) BUT I must point out, as a survivor squeegee squid rider, that if you expect to wrestle any serious road performance from the wonderful bike you're building, the foot controls MUST be pulled much further back. A good rule-of-thumb is the ankles should be on the vertical with the hip joints. Fine tune from there, back and forth, an inch or even less, to taste. Really, once you tackle any decent bend at serious speed you'll not want to sit on your a$$ but push on the footpegs to control the bike. 8-) |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 04/12/10 at 12:09:22 Oh yes I agree. But in all seriousness one day for kicks I put on my leathers and drug knee on the savage. The bike was pretty upset leaning over that far but it is possible. One reason its keeping the forward controls is that my left knee cant bend. ive got 80 degrees of motion in it. To ride anything I have with rearsets would take 140 degrees or more. Its surprising how fast you can actually corner with a savage once you learn to adapt your riding style. Ill get some knee dragging video once the bike is rideable again. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 04/12/10 at 15:58:53 Here it is before welding. I decided to weld it together instead of bolting it together. Bolting it together didnt really make sense. I don need to take it apart, and it added complexity and extra unsprung weight. Ive started welding them but have run out of Argon. http://i43.tinypic.com/28spl6a.jpg http://i41.tinypic.com/10mvpcg.jpg http://i42.tinypic.com/9iaik7.jpg whats everyone think? |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by wolfmrp on 04/12/10 at 16:32:10 Nice. I like that you are keeping a consistent look between the seat, heat shield and fork brace. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 04/12/10 at 17:57:40 welded it up http://i40.tinypic.com/2ia4ora.jpg and finished it up http://i41.tinypic.com/2czbrbk.jpg its actually really light weight and really stiff http://i40.tinypic.com/s1rina.jpg http://i40.tinypic.com/9k31ib.jpg http://i42.tinypic.com/5xvo6b.jpg There you have it. One labor intensive one of a kind fork brace. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by dasch on 04/13/10 at 00:00:46 Truck, this is... amazing. You thought of making them for stock forks and selling? Man, with your talent, will and tools... |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by mpescatori on 04/13/10 at 05:52:41 77515640484A4D475640230 wrote:
truckinduke, do you agree on the riding position, or on the rideress ??? ;D OK, laffs done. I'm sorry to read about your knee, I assume it must have been an accident... and quite an accident, I guess ! If you have an issue with your foot controls, just try to avoid pulling your hand controls too far forward and down. What really ruins riding pleasure is to have elbows/navel/knees all cramped together with a mere inch to spare... ... and hands & feet way too far forward... ...NOT the way to go ! Even if you can't pull your foot controls back any more than so much, avoid straining to "look fast" with low clip-ons etc.; rather, enduro-style 7/8th in. bars may prove much more comfortable and more suited to your riding style... 8-) |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 04/13/10 at 12:26:31 some goody's from school today http://i39.tinypic.com/6e2711.jpg http://i39.tinypic.com/15zqbte.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 04/13/10 at 16:13:43 Reducing unsprung weight as much as possible. http://i39.tinypic.com/10ghic6.jpg http://i43.tinypic.com/qyip2w.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 04/14/10 at 19:20:05 axle sliders - spacers http://i39.tinypic.com/2yudmdi.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 04/15/10 at 20:03:19 787D6F7F741C0 wrote:
Nope. Its too labor intensive. Plus I like having the only one in the world. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 04/15/10 at 20:07:56 766B7E68787A6F7469721B0 wrote:
Right now ive got on my 7/8" drag bars. They are taller than the clubmans I made. Funny thing is the clipons are actually taller than the drag bars. The previous riding position was pretty comfortable, but I am young. I shattered my knee cap and had no medical attention for a year. It pretty much rendered my knee useless. Im on the road to recovery now, slowly, but hopefully I can ride a streetbike again. I still have 2 left knee caps. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by dasch on 04/16/10 at 08:14:43 7B5D5A4C4446414B5A4C2F0 wrote:
Nope. Its too labor intensive. Plus I like having the only one in the world. [/quote] Understand. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 04/21/10 at 18:08:39 Stator cover is done. Along with the adjustable ignition pickup. Cant retard timing only advance it. I can go from stock to + 10 degrees. Ill probably set it around 4 degrees advance. Now I have to finish re wiring the stator and pickup and seal it up. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by buttgoat1 on 04/21/10 at 18:27:27 very impressive, I admire your fabrication skills and attention to detail. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 04/21/10 at 19:34:04 Thank you. CAN ANYONE FUND CHEAPER PRICES ON GASKETS? 15.21$ for clutch cover gasket and 9.01$ for generator cover gasket? |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by verslagen1 on 04/21/10 at 19:42:54 what are you complaining about? looks like the prices have come down. ;D of course you can make your own check out oldfellers home made gaskets http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1256595298/4#4 |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by buttgoat1 on 04/22/10 at 11:48:24 547275636B696E647563000 wrote:
$1 for some poster board and an exacto knife, and about 15 minutes.......... I actually did that and sealed the posterboard with floor wax, works fine, no leaks. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 04/27/10 at 14:16:03 Yep im gonna cut my own gaskets. Surface ground my stator cover and got it perfectly flat today. what do you guys think, about 4 degrees ignition advance sound good? What would you run? |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 04/28/10 at 17:10:01 http://i42.tinypic.com/4mayq.jpg http://i39.tinypic.com/1zqed94.jpg http://i42.tinypic.com/fvjmuc.jpg http://i43.tinypic.com/xgh7bc.jpg http://i42.tinypic.com/23kri82.jpg http://i44.tinypic.com/112blnc.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 04/28/10 at 17:12:42 anyone know why there is plastic chunks in this? My buddies zx6r has the same deal. Both are manufactured by Mitsubishi. http://i44.tinypic.com/2wh4lqr.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Scott_H on 04/28/10 at 18:18:26 Mine looks like that too. I was just looking at it today. Not sure what the purpose is. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by verslagen1 on 04/28/10 at 18:31:39 they are called electronic components and the black sh!t is encapsulation keeps the electronic sh!t together and dry You gottom thumper? You know vibration? this ain't puzzy multicylinder purring thing this is a ground hopper and it'd be a thumpin' big one. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 04/28/10 at 18:45:36 well the zx6r is a 4cyl that is smooth, and his ignition box looks exactly like mine, same plastic "gravel" stuff. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by verslagen1 on 04/28/10 at 18:50:40 just messin' with ya about the puzzy bit. ;D vibes also come from the road. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 04/28/10 at 18:57:19 Yep. Well the first thing that came to mind was some pissed off Japanese worker threw a handful of gravel in the rubber mix. Then I looked closer and realized its little pieces of plastic. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by verslagen1 on 04/28/10 at 19:20:48 They're on an island only so big they start shippin' gravel out for free they in big trouble. capacitors, resistors, chips of all sorts in there. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 04/29/10 at 14:54:57 4* timing advance? Anyone? I think thats what im gonna try. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by RidgeRunner13 on 04/29/10 at 17:06:34 Can't advise you what to try without knowing what it is to begin with. :-/ Not knowing that, you need an adjustable timing light to check total timing advance. Bring the rpm up to where all advance will be in, then dial the light back until 0 degree tdc marks line up. read the total advance from the timing light. That's the only way I'll set the timing on a modified engine. 8-) I wouldn't go past 36 degrees total advance to start with, that's about all most engines will tolerate without melt down. :'( :'( Don't ask how I know. $$$$$$$$$$$$poof ::) |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 04/29/10 at 18:01:55 well stock is 5* before TDC at idle and 30* at something like 4K or 5K. So Id be at 34*. Ill run high octane at first and keep an eye out for detonation. Bike will be dyno'd soon. Might pit it back stock, other than head porting. Dyno it. Put it how it is now, advance timing, carb, exhaust. and re dyno and compare. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 04/29/10 at 18:06:01 mounted RR to frame hoping it will help as a heat sink. http://i42.tinypic.com/mrbubd.jpg made the stator side gasket. http://i39.tinypic.com/242vfpj.jpg wonder how it would handle with -26* rake http://i41.tinypic.com/6xqhja.jpg rear brake caliper mount template. Tomorrow is last day in machine shop for 2 weeks. Im gonna have withdraws. http://i44.tinypic.com/nv5tog.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/30/10 at 01:44:21 Now thats a rear brake upgrade. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/02/10 at 16:16:56 set timing at +4 Degrees. http://i41.tinypic.com/2nkt369.jpg got the rear brake caliper mount about 90% done http://i40.tinypic.com/2087adk.jpg http://i40.tinypic.com/2h8btic.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by ero4444 on 05/02/10 at 19:17:32 seeing how close the sprocket and disk are, I'd be nervous about chain lube splashing onto the disk. But I don't have you guys' build and ride experience, maybe it burns off fast or just never happens? And it's the rear brake anyway. this is an engrossing build in any case - thank you for showing it in such great detail. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/03/10 at 18:22:49 Most chains these days are sealed, meaning an O ring or an X ring seals the lubricant inside the chain where its needed. Oiling is not necessary, only an occasional cleaning and waxing. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/03/10 at 18:34:47 finally got some tubing for swinger. http://i44.tinypic.com/ja9hqw.jpg http://i41.tinypic.com/2ng4caa.jpg http://i39.tinypic.com/24vmbna.jpg http://i41.tinypic.com/a1psnc.jpg http://i41.tinypic.com/24y1yqc.jpg http://i41.tinypic.com/2ykjjug.jpg http://i40.tinypic.com/b4cbcp.jpg http://i41.tinypic.com/10roaxk.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by sakara on 05/04/10 at 12:45:47 You get a thumbs up just for sheer amount of work put in, man! :) |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/05/10 at 04:10:33 How will you keep the chain off the swingarm? *Edit, looking at the poics more, Im thinking the lower chain is still a couple inches above the lower part of the swingarm, tho Im not sure.. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/05/10 at 11:17:45 other side http://i41.tinypic.com/96gw3r.jpg http://i44.tinypic.com/24mye7k.jpg still playing with new camera http://i41.tinypic.com/sqsj1e.jpg http://i43.tinypic.com/9fwnbc.jpg http://i39.tinypic.com/10yfalv.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/06/10 at 18:01:17 7D6264637E7948784870626E25170 wrote:
yep you can see the chain clearance in this picture. http://i41.tinypic.com/96gw3r.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/06/10 at 19:02:47 So what do you guys think of the swingarm? Im still on the wall about the design. I want to brace it further but fear it will make it too busy looking. Opinions please. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Serowbot on 05/06/10 at 19:16:36 Don't know about that... but,.. I think I''d like the muffler angled down from right where it is, instead of up... bum scorcher... :-?... other than that,... it's so cool!.... ;)... |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/06/10 at 20:00:34 something like this http://i43.tinypic.com/15fivrc.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by verslagen1 on 05/06/10 at 21:05:11 I don't think you're likely to have torsional bending. but that configuration would be stronger than just straight tubes. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by dasch on 05/07/10 at 02:01:50 Agree. And what you have now seems to be stronger than what we have stock. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by DeadLast on 05/07/10 at 12:06:56 I don't even own a Savage (yet, I'm really lookin to buy one here soon) but I had to sign up just to say, Holy shizz, you are building one of the coolest bike I have ever seen! Its like you live in my head and take all my ideas, hahaha. Keep up the great work man. I cant wait to see the rest of the build. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by cornfuzed on 05/07/10 at 12:39:18 674642476F425057230 wrote:
http://akroncanton.craigslist.org/mcy/1717749596.html 8-) Hey DL hurry up and get ya one... 8-) |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/09/10 at 20:04:12 http://i44.tinypic.com/2rcs6eu.jpg http://i42.tinypic.com/54x0k1.jpg http://i40.tinypic.com/2njy9tz.jpg http://i44.tinypic.com/x6klq8.jpg http://i39.tinypic.com/2zhdqav.jpg http://i41.tinypic.com/dq0zea.jpg http://i43.tinypic.com/160d66x.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by mikelhsr1982 on 05/09/10 at 21:02:43 This is a true work of art. I love to see everyday folks do this and not on a TV show. Great Job |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/15/10 at 10:28:06 started on my battery yesterday. ANYONE have any left over A123 cells they dont need? I need some. http://i42.tinypic.com/2h4kjlz.jpg A friend also helped me by building a wiring harness for the bike. A few switches and the batt and the wiring is done. Make the clutch cover gasket and the motor will be running again. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/15/10 at 15:15:27 http://i42.tinypic.com/15yxn4w.jpg http://i43.tinypic.com/2nh140i.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by dasch on 05/15/10 at 19:11:24 Man, that looks mean!! Super. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/16/10 at 20:16:02 thank you. I started the final x bracing for the swinger, just need to final weld it now. The pampered life is over, its back out in the rain for the beater savage. http://i42.tinypic.com/29eq636.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by dasch on 05/17/10 at 06:40:06 Truck, I sent you a PM, I need some advices, can you check and help? Thanks. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by cornishgonzo on 05/17/10 at 09:04:07 Really like this bike! Lots of work gone into it!! Gonzo |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by BurnPgh on 05/17/10 at 09:21:44 I hate to say it, since you put so much work into it all, but I really prefer the look of you modified stock swingarm. The new one looks too blocky. Kind of messes up good lines IMO. Other than that Ive got nothing but praise and amazement. Wish I had the skills and equipment to do like you've done. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/17/10 at 12:45:52 finished the rear caliper mount today http://i39.tinypic.com/pqdkm.jpg http://i43.tinypic.com/sevwjq.jpg and swingarm bracing http://i42.tinypic.com/wvpulk.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/18/10 at 19:50:49 YEP, F#(K ME! http://i49.tinypic.com/2duwkk.jpg http://i49.tinypic.com/30ky5pe.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/19/10 at 20:56:30 mounted gauges to cluster, now just need to mount cluster to tank. http://i49.tinypic.com/v8a37.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/9jqes9.jpg and made a brake light mount http://i47.tinypic.com/n39ssn.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/19/10 at 21:15:42 trying to sort out the wiring http://i45.tinypic.com/90qg09.jpg tail light needs mount welded to the frame now. http://i49.tinypic.com/2dv1ke1.jpg cluster mount http://i47.tinypic.com/n2z9c9.jpg http://i48.tinypic.com/344dys2.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/20/10 at 18:44:56 made a switch mount for the bars http://i48.tinypic.com/2zqdfyf.jpg and a mount for the choke cable. http://i47.tinypic.com/1zb795f.jpg Also made a mount for the electronics bag. Lots more parts to be made tomorrow. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/24/10 at 13:24:14 just rode the bike. Its fun. Found a few issues i need to Address. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/24/10 at 15:08:57 http://i46.tinypic.com/ih38tf.jpg http://i47.tinypic.com/oasv3c.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/24/10 at 16:00:56 my carb never fit the boot well, so i made a new one. it has a 12 degree offset to give the carb more room from the shock. http://i48.tinypic.com/2lc9z10.jpg http://i47.tinypic.com/152c6er.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/24/10 at 17:09:13 http://i48.tinypic.com/ajtjic.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/25/10 at 18:33:14 kinda screwed up today and destroyed my headlight. http://i45.tinypic.com/2cmm0rr.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/25/10 at 18:35:16 cut some old plexy for the gauge. had to use the flash for it to show up. http://i46.tinypic.com/53l9af.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/25/10 at 18:42:40 then went out in the woods and found another headlight, the same one, just blue. http://i50.tinypic.com/20hmqzn.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/156w95t.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/fk8fwy.jpg might leave it blue, i kinda like it. Lens and adapter turned out well. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Serowbot on 05/25/10 at 19:14:12 blue?... really?... blue?... :-?... ;D... |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/25/10 at 19:18:30 MAYBE...... |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/25/10 at 20:20:24 so what to you guys think? Its almost done and id like some opinions please. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by BurnPgh on 05/25/10 at 20:59:30 Looks dangerous, in a good way. Diggin the blue headlight rim. Only negative thing at all i have to say is that visually, I still like your modified stock swingarm better. I know this may not qualify as a "rat bike" to a lot of people but this is THE rat bike in my mind. Its custom, dirty, grungy, and bada$$. Please dont go making it shiny and chromey. Maybe give caseyLA a buzz. If alternative and easily (not all hand made) parts could be cobled into a "kit" I think you could charge top dollar along with his absolutely splendid cafe racer kit. In fact...between you two and a few others I think a good business in customs could be started. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by dasch on 05/26/10 at 02:32:44 Don't like the blue light rim. Sorry. The whole bike - I personally love it and I am with Burnpgh - you are too good with this not to turn it into a profession of some sort! |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by John_D FSO on 05/26/10 at 04:21:03 Very awesome! 8-) |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by babyhog on 05/26/10 at 05:52:18 66404751595B5C564751320 wrote:
So can I be one of the "guys"? LOL When I first started watching this thread, I thought holy cow! Will it ever actually run? Will it be SAFE on the road? Is it gonna fall apart a mile from home? But while watching this progress, and seeing your talent, I guess you have everything under control. My favorite pieces are the fork brace and the seat (I hope the exhaust doesn't burn your a$$!) I am personally not into that particular looking bike, so I won't criticize. But I will say, if I saw it riding down the road, I would think someone just pulled it out of a junkyard. I really don't intend that in a cruel way, I'm just honestly telling you what my personal perception would be if I saw it. I would never think twice about all the time, labor, and love that went into making it. BUT, this will definitely make me look at each and every bike I see in a different light. I commend your skill and dedication! And thank you for sharing it all! (Oh, and I kinda like the blue on the headlight too!) Oh -- two questions.... do you have a name for it, and are you gonna put anything (graphics/paint/...) on the tank? |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/26/10 at 22:08:02 thanks for the comments everyone, Ill reply when I have a little more time. pics from today http://i47.tinypic.com/1sd0sw.jpg http://i47.tinypic.com/96hond.jpg http://i47.tinypic.com/3142snc.jpg http://i49.tinypic.com/119mogg.jpg http://i49.tinypic.com/2iksjz4.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by verslagen1 on 05/26/10 at 22:14:31 Not that it looks bad there, but you got a lot of room for a battery box in front of the swingarm for it. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/27/10 at 04:49:16 4E4D4C414359200 wrote:
So can I be one of the "guys"? LOL When I first started watching this thread, I thought holy cow! Will it ever actually run? Will it be SAFE on the road? Is it gonna fall apart a mile from home? But while watching this progress, and seeing your talent, I guess you have everything under control. My favorite pieces are the fork brace and the seat (I hope the exhaust doesn't burn your a$$!) I am personally not into that particular looking bike, so I won't criticize. But I will say, if I saw it riding down the road, I would think someone just pulled it out of a junkyard. I really don't intend that in a cruel way, I'm just honestly telling you what my personal perception would be if I saw it. I would never think twice about all the time, labor, and love that went into making it. BUT, this will definitely make me look at each and every bike I see in a different light. I commend your skill and dedication! And thank you for sharing it all! (Oh, and I kinda like the blue on the headlight too!) Oh -- two questions.... do you have a name for it, and are you gonna put anything (graphics/paint/...) on the tank? [/quote] Thank you. I wanted it to look old and used while maintaining up to date performance. I do not have a name for it, other than Fred Savage, thats what a friend calls it. I plan on hand painting something on the tank, but im not sure what yet. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/27/10 at 04:50:40 382B3C3D222F292B207F4E0 wrote:
Im currently building a battery thats about 1/4 the size of that one. It will be mounted above the tranny in the stock location or behind it in the swingarm. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by mikelhsr1982 on 05/27/10 at 07:18:07 Looks kind of a military theme bike. I wanted to do mine in a military theme and put some WW2 pinups on the tank. But to each his own. Still looking good though. Keep up the good work. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/27/10 at 21:50:05 got some miles on it today. Having some carb issues but the thing handles AMAZING!!! |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by dasch on 05/28/10 at 00:51:05 ;D |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Sax Man on 05/28/10 at 07:33:38 Fred's lookin' pretty mean to me. I really like the rear brake treatment. Don't think I'd like the exhaust that close though. I agree with BurnPgh and dasch - with your ability you could have a good business doing custom work. Great job.....keep on truckinducin. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/28/10 at 11:51:42 riding up a mountain in the rain with a slick in the front is interesting. Especially when a little gas gets on the rear tire. http://i49.tinypic.com/8wwfaq.jpg http://i47.tinypic.com/157ck2.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by dr1445 on 05/29/10 at 04:03:17 you might want to try some length with the carb intake track/air filter. try using the stock rubber intake boot with the cone filter. if that mikuni tm40 is from a harley the ap jet will be way to large, you need around a #40, i think the harley used a #70. procycle has the ap jets if they are off back order. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by kimchris1 on 05/29/10 at 05:39:52 Truckingduc, like Piglet I feel honored to be one of the guys...hahah.. That said, your creation is amazing. I am impressed with what you have done with parts, tools, time and a great imagination. You should be proud of yourself. It maynot be a particular bike I would build or ride however, that is again what makes us all unique. We come here to share as well as gather knowledge. You have shown myself your talent to again take some materials as well as a vision of a bike and thru all that this is a bike that has been transformed. Great work and awww could "transformer" become a potential name? ;) |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/29/10 at 18:21:30 3D2B686D6D6C590 wrote:
well the carb is too small to fit in the stock rubber boot, and I had to adjust the angle for clearance. Im going to re made the aluminum boot as the one on it now was a prototype. Ive got a 155 main in now and im getting smooth linear power though-out out the rpm range. Im going to set the accelerator pump next. Got some dyno time next week, we will see how it goes. thanks for the advice. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/29/10 at 18:22:03 0A080C020913081250610 wrote:
thank you thank you thank you. hmm Transformer... |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/29/10 at 18:22:17 http://i50.tinypic.com/affy28.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by verslagen1 on 05/30/10 at 08:17:14 What carb are you using? |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by dr1445 on 05/30/10 at 09:07:19 that is correct on the boot dia., when i set a tm40 up on the neighbors savage i used a step ring i had from my suzuki dr650 project. i seem to recall 142.5mj, 15pilot, a 40 ap nozzle jet with the needle on the 3rd slot down. this was on a stock bike. edit: the ap delay can be set at the top of the rod with a Popsicle stick or .100". this is a good starting point and worked for me both on the dr and the savage but no dyno here. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/30/10 at 10:51:31 weighed the bike the other day. 152 lbs front, 145 lbs rear. WITH 1.5 gallons of fuel. I like that weight bias. so with a half tank of fuel Ive got a 297 lb bike. I weigh 150 with full gear and backpack. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/30/10 at 10:52:47 647760617E7375777C23120 wrote:
Mikuni Tm 42mm with accel pump. The bore is Teflon coated, fancy. Its a little over carbe'd at the moment, but shouldn't be with the headwork I plan on doing. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/30/10 at 11:00:44 4C5A191C1C1D280 wrote:
I made a step ring out of derlin, but even with silicone I could never get it to seal right. It also never held the carb firmly. Ive got a slightly ported exhaust port, full 1.625 exhaust, 4 degree ignition advance. 155 main seems to be pretty good. the dyno will tell soon. Think im running a 17.5 pilot, could stand to go a size or two smaller. Know anywhere I can get some jets that dont cost an arm and a leg? This winter I plan on welding up the exhaust rocker box in the head and re designing the exhaust port. Its honestly the worst design ive ever seen. Anyone have a destroyed head laying around they would like to get rid of? |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by dr1445 on 05/30/10 at 13:57:01 try jeff at procycle, he did a lot of work developing a tm40 kit for the dr650. his pricing is about fair as it gets, plus he has the jets. it's the ap jet that cost and drilling one out is not an option, i got by with the 40 and 45, and you might want to pick up the tiny oring for ap jet while your at it. you should be ok with those and a 15pj. http://www.procycle.us/ |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/30/10 at 14:22:58 thanks ill give him a ring. forgot i did this a week ago. http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb251/u531355/th_Video05272020.jpg (http://s209.photobucket.com/albums/bb251/u531355/?action=view¤t=Video05272020.flv) |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by verslagen1 on 05/30/10 at 22:30:31 Hey, watched the next video. Looks like you're walking around pretty good. Glad to see you've recovered. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 05/31/10 at 12:42:18 yep, I can walk pretty good. The problem is the knee wont bent past 90 degrees. It simply locks up. Im doing PT in hopes that I can slowly stretch the tendon to gain more range of motion. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 06/03/10 at 14:32:17 [QUOTE=Truckinduc;614326]finally got the tires scrubbed all the way in. http://i45.tinypic.com/2qs9zrc.jpg http://i47.tinypic.com/1686fko.jpg Which brings me to my next problem, Im dragging pegs pretty hard. http://i45.tinypic.com/ie068k.jpg[/QUOTE] |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by dasch on 06/03/10 at 23:41:31 Easy - cut pegs shorter!!! ;) |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 06/06/10 at 11:51:18 484D5F4F442C0 wrote:
or make new one with titanium motocross pegs. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 06/06/10 at 11:51:56 here is the batt, bout to put it in. Normal AA battery for size comparison. http://i48.tinypic.com/23h3hh5.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by bobbed750 on 06/06/10 at 12:18:51 killer project man! wish i had half the fab skills you do! |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 06/06/10 at 17:40:20 well the battery cranked the bike 5 times in a row, then no more. Im not satisfied so im starting over. Im brainstorming ideas to mount a mechanical oil pump for the turbo. Id really like to run it off the camshaft if the timing chain was higher quality. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Boule’tard on 06/06/10 at 18:02:29 6E484F595153545E4F593A0 wrote:
That guy "Lancer" has sourced a more durable cam chain for the savage. Nitrided pins or something like that. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 06/06/10 at 18:25:14 ya, but there are none left. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by dasch on 06/07/10 at 01:20:08 Truck, I tried a UPS battery, then what I have now - a 7Ah small moped battery... tell you what - about a minute of total cranking is about what you get. Than again - if it doesn't start by then... Now - if we could figure out a kickstarter somehow ... |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 06/07/10 at 16:51:40 Its a Video, watch it (http://tinypic.com/r/34xqcy9/6) |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by james may on 06/07/10 at 20:05:51 looks like it rides pretty good.. that's a nice curve.. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by cursal on 06/07/10 at 20:29:52 Frankenstein .....seems like an appropriate name. nice vid, sweet curve. What speed you pulling around that? |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 06/10/10 at 15:03:35 02141312000D610 wrote:
Thats around 55 mph. Just putting along. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 06/10/10 at 15:04:11 I snuck my bike in the Hod Rod Magazine 2010 Power Tour. There were about 2000 nice hot rods there. LOTS of people. http://i49.tinypic.com/2u44y0z.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by jef.savage on 06/10/10 at 15:12:33 haha! Awesome. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by John_D FSO on 06/10/10 at 17:36:20 Very cool! 8-) |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by dropoutjohn on 06/11/10 at 00:41:35 nice bike! i hate the tank though ;) LOVE the rims! |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by dropoutjohn on 06/11/10 at 00:42:29 wait a minute, was this photo taken sort of down by the pickle barrel? 5C7A7D6B6361666C7D6B080 wrote:
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 06/11/10 at 03:57:24 382E332C332928363334325C0 wrote:
[/quote] Yep on the corner of market and main street, down the block from the Pickle barrel. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 06/16/10 at 16:18:50 http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb251/u531355/SDC10633.jpg http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb251/u531355/SDC10635.jpg http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb251/u531355/SDC10636.jpg http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb251/u531355/SDC10637.jpg http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb251/u531355/SDC10644.jpg http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb251/u531355/SDC10650.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by jef.savage on 06/16/10 at 19:22:58 very nice pics |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by babyhog on 06/17/10 at 05:42:14 yea, I'm diggin those pics! Very artistic! So what did you do to the headlight? I see a little cross on one side, and a little of the old blue. Did you just buff the paint off? I'm sure its in this thread somewhere, but what did your wheels come off of? And most of all, how's it riding?? |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 06/21/10 at 15:54:34 http://i46.tinypic.com/nn9xtv.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/mr61oo.jpg http://i47.tinypic.com/2djw4cm.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 06/21/10 at 15:58:54 7172737E7C661F0 wrote:
I just painted the headlight and stuck that sticker on there for fun. Rear wheel is off of my Ducati Monster M900 and the front is off a GSXR 600, I think. This thing rides un-believably. Went on a riding trip this weekend and had no problem with the high dollar sport bikes in the corners. Straightaways are a different story. I can literally out corner a Ducati 999. Pics above. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by verslagen1 on 06/21/10 at 16:47:37 How long is your swingarm in comparison to stock? |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 06/23/10 at 19:17:18 19.5" to 21.25" Not sure what the stock length is but its close. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Savage machinist on 06/23/10 at 20:22:49 Howdy Truck!I posted a couple months ago about having built a similar bike a couple years ago.I got busy with my recovery from my bike accident last year and forgot pics,so here are a couple.I didn't get near as fancy as you,but I had alot of fun too.You have a bright future bud.As to your knee issue,has anyone suggested a CPM machine?I couldn't bend my knee at all when I got home last October.This thing WILL help.You can get it from most medical supply stores and insurance should cover the rental. http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af196/jwSubMOA/IMG00109640x480.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 06/24/10 at 15:32:11 Awesome. Ill take a look at these CPM machines. I like your bike, except the rigid part but thats your personal preference. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 06/24/10 at 15:32:34 I was bored so I found a jungle to ride in. It was fun. There is about a 300 foot drop to the river but I couldn't really get a good picture of it. http://i50.tinypic.com/4fvjwk.jpg http://i47.tinypic.com/2yzizuo.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/24/10 at 22:37:43 Thats just cool. Where is that? |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Savage machinist on 06/25/10 at 00:26:05 1D3B3C2A2220272D3C2A490 wrote:
Thanks!It's not rigid though,it has the rear shock and suspension linkage from a 2000 GSX 750.Its mostly hidden under the seat and the swingarm but if you look closely under the frame tube below the seat you can see part of the shock.The front fork and brakes and muffler are from the same bike.I made adapters to fit one of the front brake rotors to my stock wheel and the wheel to the fork. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 06/27/10 at 08:58:37 233E1A3C2B040608490 wrote:
Thanks!It's not rigid though,it has the rear shock and suspension linkage from a 2000 GSX 750.Its mostly hidden under the seat and the swingarm but if you look closely under the frame tube below the seat you can see part of the shock.The front fork and brakes and muffler are from the same bike.I made adapters to fit one of the front brake rotors to my stock wheel and the wheel to the fork.[/quote] Ahh got ya. Looks like the strut I see is just going from the stock shock mount to the muffler. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 06/27/10 at 08:58:52 crashed the bike yesterday. hit gravel in a lefthander and lowsided. Im alright, which is amazing due to how fragile my knee is. Rear wheel is toast. Which is almost funny, because its the most expensive part of the bike. A used wheel will cost more than I have in the bike. darn. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/27/10 at 09:24:23 4D6B6C7A7270777D6C7A190 wrote:
Sux that you dropped it, but that you arent laid up is cool. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 06/27/10 at 10:04:17 here is a picture from yesterday. Cell quality. good ones coming soon. And yes it is on the moon. http://i50.tinypic.com/2jg7z4h.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/27/10 at 10:14:50 Its clearly on A moon, but a moon of what planet? Im waitin on Spock to poke his head up from behind a rock. How about a few Post Lo side pics? Or can you bear to look? |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 06/27/10 at 10:34:12 cant really tell, other than the mirror and footpeg. wheel is the only real damage I cant fix. http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/122/l_3556028d01fc445bb7887812f3e7ca33.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/27/10 at 12:13:07 Yep, mirror's gone, peg is wrong & cant see hoot on the wheel, but Im sure you'd know if it was messed up./ Good thing it didnt get the swingarm. Or would you rather that had been bent instead of the wheel? |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 06/27/10 at 12:25:20 http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4137/4739457214_18413096a4_b.jpg http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4119/4738819073_0fb0dbde65_b.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/27/10 at 12:47:32 MAN! Looks like you seriously dodged a bullet there. That parking bumper coulda messed you UP. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by jef.savage on 06/27/10 at 18:49:20 Bummer man, glad you're ok though. I like the red stripe and the dual headlights. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by dropoutjohn on 06/29/10 at 00:36:08 47616670787A7D776670130 wrote:
[/quote] cool! i lived in n.chatt back in the day before it was "cool". say hi to avery for me next time your in the pickle. Yep on the corner of market and main street, down the block from the Pickle barrel. [/quote] |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by dropoutjohn on 06/29/10 at 02:12:56 6E484F595153545E4F593A0 wrote:
the "w" road? BTW, i have seen the chain brake on many pro-street choppers that i know don't get riden like this... how does it perform in the twisties? can you feel the threshold better? |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by james may on 07/25/10 at 09:21:49 nice custom savages you guys got there. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by lastchancevegas13 on 08/10/10 at 14:55:05 god darn! these are awesome pics! that bike looks amazing! you really can do some crazy mods to a savage well done |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 08/11/10 at 18:55:22 Thank you Thank you. I have put about 2000 miles on it lately, still love to ride it. http://i33.tinypic.com/14ni82p.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 09/04/10 at 12:46:01 http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/shane_liberty/TruckersArticle.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by ohio thumper on 09/05/10 at 07:11:30 dude that is one awesome a$$ build. im a noob to this site, so i basically got to see the whole thing up til this point in one day. couldn't leave computer till i read every post on here. will be checking in to see if more is done to bike. again, awesome job on it. 8-) |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Lupo on 09/05/10 at 21:17:09 Your trying some pretty far out ideas. I like that and will be watching for more in the future. I was wondering about some mono set ups so it's cool to see your work. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 10/03/10 at 17:45:49 Ill be cutting the frame up again in a week or two, Ill keep everyone posted. Ive put about 3k miles on it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXI_lZ09eCk |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/03/10 at 18:08:49 Cool! & Thanks. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by SimonTuffGuy on 10/03/10 at 18:11:06 Sweet build. :) |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by BarneyBWilde on 10/03/10 at 18:21:11 Hell yeah, thats awesome! |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 10/27/10 at 21:28:51 took some pics on the way home tonight. http://i53.tinypic.com/o7659c.jpg http://i53.tinypic.com/11vgz0o.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by ohio thumper on 10/28/10 at 09:19:18 dude that is awesome |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by fuzzy on 10/29/10 at 09:32:25 Truckinduc, You sir, have some skills. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by MotoBuddha on 11/21/10 at 09:25:15 I'm in awe of your fab skills, envious of your resources, and appreciate your sense of style. That's one VERY cool bike. But it reminds me of an old joke. A guy claimed to have the ax George Washington used to cut down the fabled cherry tree. "Really?" asked a friend. "Yes," he replied. "Well, I mean, the blade has been replaced five times and the handle fifteen, because they wore out, but it's still Washington's ax." I know it's really gratifying to transform an ordinary thing into something completely different and awesome (particularly when it waves a big middle finger at sanity), but was there a point where you thought you might get better results fitting the LS650 engine into a different rolling chassis? Not that I think you should have. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by crackmonkey on 01/09/11 at 16:03:50 did you ever run the katana wheel on the savage forks? |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by mmg123 on 01/13/11 at 01:17:52 This is truly amazing work. I am stuck for words. Only can say and ask if i send you my standard 1986 model can you do that the same please. 8-) ;D 8-) |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by MotoBuddha on 01/14/11 at 14:23:13 Did you ever get the countershaft brake working? The last photos show no caliper. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by fsmidt on 04/16/11 at 02:48:28 truckinduc, very very nice. how did you bend the tubes for swingarm. i need an how to...plz |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 07/29/11 at 04:31:14 I got tired of the bike so I rebuilt it. It now looks like this http://i56.tinypic.com/6qdvu0.jpg http://i52.tinypic.com/20702e8.jpg http://i51.tinypic.com/25jcg40.jpg and a few build photos http://i51.tinypic.com/13zn6ok.jpg http://i51.tinypic.com/902j3c.jpg http://i55.tinypic.com/287d65w.jpg http://i53.tinypic.com/avivth.jpg http://i56.tinypic.com/4in9yr.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 07/29/11 at 04:44:36 Im currently building a new swingarm for it, with linkage. Im also going to cut the neck off of it and steepen up the rake. Im having some electrical issues. I had a friend build a new, very simple, wiring harness. It totally eliminates the decompression relay and solenoid. With a full charge the bike cranks and rides fine. Im getting 12.89 volts at idle and any rpm, it doesnt vary at all. Once i ride the bike say more than 10 miles, the battery does not have enough power to re crank. This problem existed the last few times before the new harness. I have already replaced the stator once about 6 months ago. Ill do the resistance check again but I hope its the regulator rectifier instead. Its a unit off of a gsxr 750 I think. Anyone have any clues? advice? |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by mmosel on 07/29/11 at 06:05:21 I have no advice, but I'm impressed with your fabricating skills. Looking like a cool cafe racer! |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by dasch on 07/29/11 at 06:34:43 Well.. it's not charging the battery definitelly. Stator is new, harness is new, guess connections could not have rotten out that quick. Change the reg/rec seems to be the only thing left to do. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by MotoBuddha on 07/29/11 at 07:09:59 That's a fun looking bike! |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by SoE on 07/29/11 at 07:35:29 Dude, where has this thread been hiding?! Awesome bike. You're just down the road from me. Lemme know if you ever head up 75 thru Knox. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 08/06/11 at 15:13:01 Toying around with paint ideas, What do you think? The raw aluminum part will be satin white to match the tank. Just in sharpie atm. http://i52.tinypic.com/dbr0cn.jpg http://i51.tinypic.com/2drgg01.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 08/06/11 at 21:12:00 wheels are going white http://i55.tinypic.com/6s6tqv.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by mmosel on 08/07/11 at 01:09:41 Change that Honda to Suzuki and you're on to something ;) |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 08/07/11 at 10:26:16 Nah |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Drifter on 08/07/11 at 13:53:37 Very cool ride, alot of talent and time involved there!! To answer your question about paint, i would say gloss Black....anything that would cover the honda decal would work also!! Great Job! |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by ralfyguy on 08/07/11 at 14:33:56 Where is the brake caliper for the rear brake? |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 08/08/11 at 15:05:38 The rear caliper is in my shop. Im making a cable for it soon. The honda in the tank is actually a piece of aluminum that is embedded into the tank, and I like it so its staying. The paint on the tank is staying. Im just trying to figure out how im going to lay out and paint the tail. Im tired of painting everything black, and dont you know, white is the new black. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 09/28/11 at 10:11:05 started on the new swingarm. First I had to build a jig. I went ahead and made it long enough to do frames too. http://i51.tinypic.com/6912ep.jpg http://i51.tinypic.com/fux4p.jpg http://i51.tinypic.com/205cj86.jpg http://i51.tinypic.com/244tchj.jpg http://i52.tinypic.com/a4myh3.jpg http://i54.tinypic.com/2gv7uaa.jpg http://i55.tinypic.com/2elvbbt.jpg http://i53.tinypic.com/hrnhv8.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Bobber Fett on 09/29/11 at 06:18:24 Is your bike still having "charging" issues? I had the same problem with mine when the decompression solenoid cable broke. The reason the decomp solenoid is needed is because it takes stress off the starter motor on start-up. My take is that most batteries will charge to a slightly higher voltage when run off a wall charger than the bikes recharging system (12.8V compared to 12.5V). After a couple rides they drop back down to that lower voltage, and if it's not enough juice for the starter motor to turn it over, the engine sounds like its got a dead battery. The decomp opens the exhaust so that the engine isn't fighting any pressure on start up. This lets the engine develop some momentum before the spark has to take over to do the work. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 09/29/11 at 09:21:45 a good thing about this jig is I can roll it around however I need to be comfortable welding. http://i54.tinypic.com/3469pw4.jpg http://i55.tinypic.com/2w3w2ed.jpg no chainline problems http://i55.tinypic.com/2s1u8w6.jpg http://i51.tinypic.com/5xl5yg.jpg http://i54.tinypic.com/2nrobw5.jpg upper tube taking shape. Absolute pregnant dog to fit due to the extreme acute angles. This tube has a 3.5 degree bend. Opposite side will be even harder since I have to match this side. http://i51.tinypic.com/2gvng28.jpg http://i53.tinypic.com/2co6bsg.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 09/29/11 at 09:28:02 012C37343921550 wrote:
Well i found the problem to be a faulty ground wire from the RR. Im very familiar with the decomp valve and solenoid, as I have deleted it. I have a manual lever on the bars for decomp, I just havent fitted a cable to it yet. I replaced my bad battery and rode it an estimated 1400 miles with no cranking issues, even with a small scooter battery, WITHOUT any decompression actuation. Id say around 45 cranking's. Just the other day it started loosing power again. I hope its another fault in the wiring. A friend built the wiring harness and used crimp connectors for some reason. Im going back and replacing each joint with solder and shrink wrap. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by kevinphan on 09/29/11 at 16:11:48 Your work has always been top notch man. Bike looks killer. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/29/11 at 16:23:18 That swingarm tubing stiff enough for the job? |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 09/29/11 at 18:45:31 524D4B4C51566757675F4D410A380 wrote:
4130 Chromoly 1" od .085 wall. Its about 3 times stronger than the tubing the frame itself is made of. Its about 8$ a foot. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Bobber Fett on 09/30/11 at 06:57:31 Quote:
I figured with all of your knowledge you wouldn't have overlooked it, but in the pictures I didn't see anything for the decomp solenoid. It just mirrored my issue so closely. I bought the bike cheap because it had problems starting. The guy had gone out and bought a brand new sealed battery, got tons of starts from it. Just like yours then it started refusing to turn over. He got frustrated with it (it was his only transportation option) and sold it to me after buying a 2006 bike. After looking at it for a few days I found the electrical system working fine, and figured out that the solenoid cable was broken. Bought a new one for $14. Same battery, same wiring, same everything else, the bike has run without issue for (~1000 miles). I felt bad because the repair was so cheap and took 10 min. Good luck hunting down wiring issues, that's always the worst thing to find. :-/ |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 09/30/11 at 15:17:10 http://i51.tinypic.com/295739i.jpg http://i56.tinypic.com/2hh3ce1.jpg http://i51.tinypic.com/ic3fqx.jpg http://i51.tinypic.com/6pnvhj.jpg http://i55.tinypic.com/2qi4gad.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 10/01/11 at 14:53:07 http://i52.tinypic.com/2sbal39.jpg and a sneak peak of the latest toy. http://i53.tinypic.com/vickk9.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by ralfyguy on 10/01/11 at 17:08:21 That is some beautiful fab work there. As a machinist, my hat is off for you. :) |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Bobber Fett on 10/02/11 at 10:16:24 I agree. Nice stack o' dimes weld there :) |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 10/03/11 at 16:25:40 http://i53.tinypic.com/3355dsj.jpg pushrod mount http://i54.tinypic.com/65xqv9.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by ralfyguy on 10/03/11 at 16:38:15 It's not just the weld jobs, the machined parts are simply beautiful. Not too easy to machine those shapes. Do you own a CNC, or work with one? If the pieces were done on a conventional mill, then it is even more incredible, because that takes some serious skill, especially the last part for the push rod. Is it stainless steel? |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 10/04/11 at 05:14:18 Thank you. Most of the parts are done manually. I am a CNC machinist by trade and every now and then, when I get a chance, borrow a friends machine when it is not tied up. The pushrod mount is just 1018, it looks pretty shiny though. I will not be painting this swingarm, just probably clearing it so it wont rust. eventually ill strip the paint from the frame too. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 10/04/11 at 05:59:40 I got my rocker arm and pushrod made. Still need to make the bearing block and weld it to the frame. I have alot more welding, cutting, and grinding to do to the frame. The bike needs to be ridable by thursday, thats 2 days. Lots of work to do. I can handle the fab work, its the wiring issue I hope I can get resolved. http://i53.tinypic.com/2lj17hz.jpg http://i54.tinypic.com/ri7tro.jpg http://i52.tinypic.com/2a9o87q.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 10/04/11 at 08:37:58 Swingarm is done (for now). Im going to ride it as is and determine if I need to brace it further. Everything is an experiment on this bike. http://i55.tinypic.com/34yv7fb.jpg http://i51.tinypic.com/v65e81.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Gyrobob on 10/04/11 at 09:31:03 What is the diameter and wall thickness of the exhaust header? Is it stainless? I'll bet your exhaust system weighs 1/5 of what the stock set up weighs. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by babyhog on 10/04/11 at 10:27:31 After the recent thread here about fork braces, I still think with your awesome skills, you could make a great fork brace for us, sell them a little cheaper than tkat, help a bunch of people out (who don't want to fork out so much dough) and make a pretty penny for yourself.... I don't comment on this thread much, but always enjoy your updates. Awesome work! |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Truckinduc on 10/05/11 at 13:52:31 http://i51.tinypic.com/mu7cwj.jpg http://i56.tinypic.com/30ti1dh.jpg |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by CalisOsin on 10/06/11 at 10:03:43 Looks awesome. I really enjoy watching you constantly take this to the next level. But how does it ride? |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by MotoBuddha on 10/06/11 at 13:59:48 Where does the front of the long link attach? |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by arteacher on 10/06/11 at 14:32:04 You have a unique skill set to be able to visualize what you want and then do it. One question- at what point does it did it cease to be a savage? ;D |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by MotoBuddha on 10/07/11 at 08:24:29 747F7F767A75746E6F1B0 wrote:
I guess it's a matter of the VIN numbers. ;) |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by dasch on 10/07/11 at 09:08:29 You are something else, Trucker!! Kinda wild, but an artist... ;) |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by mogman on 10/24/11 at 19:56:00 Superb work! Any pics of the work you have done with your dad on the Manx look alike? |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by skeebo on 10/26/11 at 17:43:54 SWEEEET........ |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by YaJest on 10/07/14 at 11:38:34 beautiful bike and CNC work. What seat are you using for your early bobber set up? before you got your mono shock? thanks for any any advice |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Tocsik on 10/07/14 at 12:20:07 We'd love a clip of it running. Especially with it goin' down th' road or round a track! Are you just going with the front brake? I still don't see the rear setup. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Dave on 10/07/14 at 12:23:15 536B406F797E0A0 wrote:
Yep...this fellow did some incredible work. When you pull up these old threads......you may not have any luck getting a response from the fellow that posted them. The fellow that built this bike has not logged onto this forum in more than 3 years. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/20/17 at 09:59:55 Thanks for bringing this back up Where did he go? |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by Christof13T on 11/22/17 at 06:21:58 Heck of a read! This bike build went right on into next level. Maybe an admin could try emailing the user at the registered address to prod for an update? |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by verslagen1 on 11/22/17 at 07:21:55 042F352E34332821767413470 wrote:
I think not, did not leave here in the best of circumstances. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by ohiomoto on 11/22/17 at 08:26:42 I think he's still on customfighters.com but I'm not sure if he still has or works on this bike. I love what he did and how it evolved. Another really talented and creative builder. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by norm92de on 02/04/18 at 14:08:51 Nice job! People who have never tried that kind of work don't realise the enormous amount of work involved. |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by MadMike on 02/04/18 at 16:49:29 Nice build[ch128077] |
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Title: Re: here is my savage, kinda Post by ohiomoto on 01/27/20 at 18:52:02 Tinypic ruined this thread and his customfighters.com thread which is a real shame. I was able to find this though: https://www.customfighters.com/3335/2010-winter-buildoff-winner-truckinducs-ls650/ http://https://www.customfighters.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/DSC_2874-CF.jpg http://https://www.customfighters.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/DSC_3175-CF.jpg |
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