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Message started by SpeedyG on 03/17/08 at 06:33:07

Title: Looking for someone get my S40 running great
Post by SpeedyG on 03/17/08 at 06:33:07

Hi all,

Well I've had my '07 S40 for almost a year now.  I've got 3,200 miles on her.  I've been reading and learning a lot here and even occassionally posting.  

I'm looking for someone who has done work on their Savage/S40 and has it running great to get mine running better.  Of course I would buy all parts, pay for labor, and be an extra set of unexperienced hands if need be.  I'm in northern Virginia (Woodbridge).  

What I want fixed:  
1.  Get rid of the loud gun-shot like backfire on decleration.  
2.  Make it sound like a motorcycle (don't want it real loud, just want it to sound better).

What has been done:  When the bike was a few months old, the dealer did some adjustment to the carb to help with warm-up time and it also got rid of the backfire at shutoff.  

So, what do I need to have done to get a better sounding bike and one that doesn't backfire on decleration?  I've read about white spacer modification/removal, adjusting mixture screws, new pipe, jet kit, new air filter.  Would I need to do all this to attain my goals?  If I can meet my two goals and gain more power that'd be great too, but I really just want the two things I listed above fixed.  

Thanks,
Colleen

Title: Re: Looking for someone get my S40 running great
Post by skrapiron on 03/17/08 at 06:45:23

You're on the right track.

The spacer mod, rejetting the carb, swapping the exhaust and adding the K&N drop in are the best things you can do for your bike.  It really wakes up the performance (especially on the freeway).

What you are planning to do will also reduce or eliminate the backfiring and will make the bike sound better.

What, for $125.00 in parts and an hour or two of your time, its like getting a whole new bike....

Title: Re: Looking for someone get my S40 running great
Post by verslagen1 on 03/17/08 at 09:03:38

Backfire on decel is most likely exhaust leak.  Check the header bolts.

If you replace the muffler for the sound you want, then the other place it can leak will be taken care of.

The cheap way to go is a HD take off, go talk to the HD parts counter guy.

Title: Re: Looking for someone get my S40 running great
Post by joebothehobo on 03/17/08 at 09:20:24

If youre willing to pay a couple extra dollars to save some work though, certain mufflers (MAC, maybe others?) are adjustable so you dont have to touch any other part of the bike if youre not comfortable with that. Should fix the noise and maybe the backfire like verslagen said if the leak is between the pipe and the muffler.

Title: Re: Looking for someone get my S40 running great
Post by Robertomoe on 03/17/08 at 10:25:02

I've only ever replaced the exhaust and adjusted the idle mix screw.  Even that change caused the bike to behave differently (in a great way).  

Title: Re: Looking for someone get my S40 running great
Post by verslagen1 on 03/17/08 at 11:27:33

Speedy, did you find someone to work on your bike or did you look in the mirror?

Sooner or later you'll need to hit lancer up for a set of jets, look for him in the market place.

Title: Re: Looking for someone get my S40 running great
Post by SpeedyG on 03/17/08 at 11:46:43

Thanks for the muffler suggestion guys.  I bet I can change the muffler.  Maybe I will start there and see if I'm satisfied with that.

Title: Re: Looking for someone get my S40 running great
Post by sluggo on 03/17/08 at 12:39:35


574453524D4046444F10210 wrote:
Speedy, did you find someone to work on your bike or did you look in the mirror?

Sooner or later you'll need to hit lancer up for a set of jets, look for him in the market place.



i was going to use the look in the mirror remark but ya beat me to it.

Title: Re: Looking for someone get my S40 running great
Post by thumperclone on 03/17/08 at 14:38:45

if you change muff with anything that flows freer youll have to rejet the carb..stealership can do that for you $$$$

Title: Re: Looking for someone get my S40 running great
Post by Max_Morley on 03/17/08 at 19:33:12

Or you can look in the tech section as Savage Wahine sent us pictures of her carb repairs and there used to be some discussion of her muffler removal project. You can do she did !! Max

Title: Re: Looking for someone get my S40 running great
Post by SpeedyG on 03/18/08 at 06:13:43

If changing the air flow by putting on a new muffler requires me to do carb work, it's not happing by me.  I'm smart enough to look in the mirror and know that I'm not attempting to take the carb apart and do the changes and get it back together and running just right.  I've heard enough stories to know what a job that really is; pictures in the tech section or not.  

Title: Re: Looking for someone get my S40 running great
Post by joebothehobo on 03/18/08 at 09:17:50

Again, you can buy pipes where you modify the pipe to the bike, not vice versa. But sometimes all you need to do to the carb is play with the idle mixture screw; a very quick, straightforward process that is very easy to fix even if you TOTALLY mess up. Really, dont be afraid to get your hands dirty. You can always pay someone to do it for you once you've tried and given up.

Title: Re: Looking for someone get my S40 running great
Post by skatnbnc on 03/18/08 at 13:51:39


4E4B41464B504C414C4B464B240 wrote:
Again, you can buy pipes where you modify the pipe to the bike, not vice versa. But sometimes all you need to do to the carb is play with the idle mixture screw; a very quick, straightforward process that is very easy to fix even if you TOTALLY mess up. Really, dont be afraid to get your hands dirty. You can always pay someone to do it for you once you've tried and given up.


Huh, easy for you to say when YOU don't have a non-working bike with a carb in pices on the floor. :o
I have not touched MY carb for that reason. My Savage is my main transportation.  :)

Title: Re: Looking for someone get my S40 running great
Post by T Mack 1 on 03/19/08 at 09:53:56

SpeedyG,
  I'm willing to show you how, but... I'm not sure you're willing to go 200 miles.   By the time you pay for gas, you could probably get it done locally.

Woodbridge,VA to Emmaus, PA (east-side of PA), 199 miles according Yahoo maps.  

I've got the tools, the garage, a lift and a guest bedroom.......

T.Mack

Title: Re: Looking for someone get my S40 running great
Post by Oldfeller on 03/20/08 at 03:22:43

..... and that my friends is why this site is rated "Great" in the eyes of motorcycledom.

Oldfeller

Title: Re: Looking for someone get my S40 running great
Post by Robertomoe on 03/20/08 at 18:04:30

let's see first off-

how confident are you in using tools?  If you can use screwdrivers and a socket wrench, you'll be able to do this with some guidance

Title: Re: Looking for someone get my S40 running great
Post by stinger on 03/21/08 at 00:29:25

They are not cheap, but if you purchase a supertrapp muffler, you dont need to rejet unless you use over 8 discs.  you will have no more backfire, a great sounding motorcycle and twice the performance. dont forget to add a free flowing air filter like the K@N.

Title: Re: Looking for someone get my S40 running great
Post by SpeedyG on 03/21/08 at 06:54:22


36312C2B222037450 wrote:
They are not cheap, but if you purchase a supertrapp muffler, you dont need to rejet unless you use over 8 discs.  you will have no more backfire, a great sounding motorcycle and twice the performance. dont forget to add a free flowing air filter like the K@N.


Is there a specific model of the supertrapp?  Where's the best place to get one--online or through the dealer?  What do you mean by "use over 8 discs"?  Are they used to determine loudness?

Thanks,
Colleen

Title: Re: Looking for someone get my S40 running great
Post by verslagen1 on 03/21/08 at 07:30:30

I bought my Supertrapp from another member, and they do show up from time to time if you can wait.  New they are about $300 give or take arm.

The trapp is a little different, you add disks to reduce back pressure.  More disks more sound as well.  So if you get a supertrapp and your sparkplug suddenly goes super rich, add a couple of disks and it will lean it out.  Or vice versa.

When I put mine on, my bike was stock and it was perfectly tuned with 8 disks.  I went from a 145 jet to a 150, added 2 disks.  If I put on a K&N air filter, might need to add 2 more disks plus maybe another rejet.  Comprende chica?   8-)  ;D

Title: Re: Looking for someone get my S40 running great
Post by SpeedyG on 03/21/08 at 07:37:43

Gotcha.  I'll start lookin for one.  Hope to get things changed this Spring/Summer sometime.

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