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Message started by verslagen1 on 05/26/07 at 12:07:39

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by verslagen1 on 05/26/07 at 12:07:39

Cam Chain Adjuster Check Procedure and install instructions (http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1191167029)
Cam Chain Adjuster Life (http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1192027390)

From this:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wMfDcQdQ9wM/UvBn9UZ-XCI/AAAAAAAABKE/4PR8Px9woFM/s1600/photo+609.jpg
To this:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-a06ozGDNHQM/UvBoaMDM1xI/AAAAAAAABK0/PlGN_b3Njew/s1600/photo+639.jpg
- The VerSlavyOT ------------------------------------------------
http://https://suzukisavage.com/yabb2.2/Attachments/VerslavyOT.jpg

- The VerSlavyOT ------------------------------------------------

A modified plunger with 1 or 2 holes incorporating an Over Tension spring to prevent over-stressing the cam chain.

VerSlavyOT options (contact for availability)
a) Plunger only- Modified OT plunger, 1 hole version for $165
b) Complete Assy- Complete OT assy, 2 hole w/pin&slot version for $275
c) Upgrade existing VerSlavy for $105

- The VerSlavy ------------------------------------------------

VerSlavy mod (pin, slot and second hole) in a new adjuster for $235 by paypal
                                                                                          $230 by gift, money order or zelle

- The VerSlavy with your parts ----------------------------

VerSlavy mod (pin, slot and second hole) with your parts for $105 by paypal
                                                                                       $100 by gift, money order or zelle
Prepayment or Money Order sent with the parts advised for the fastest service.

- In a bind, need it now? ----------------------------
Talk to me (PM), I don't have parts in my pocket, but maybe able to overnite the next day.
When used parts are available, the deposit is $40 which will be refunded less excessive damage.
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I'll buy your adjuster in useable condition for up to $40.

Upon receipt, I will appraise it's value and let you know.

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FAQ
1. What's the basic difference between a used or new adjuster? In terms of reliability or longevity?
A: It varies, can be none or adjuster can get damaged by letting the plunger go all the way out and it will oval the hole a bit.
When I pin these in, it holds the plunger in before the ovaling.  So a little bit of damage doesn't really affect it.  But some people like to not have damaged parts at all.  I started with a used one with 22k miles on it, and I've used it for nearly 100,000 miles since. There's a little bit of damage to the back of the housing where the guide rubs on it besides the initial ovaling.

2. how do you get used adjustors for your mod?
A: I buy new ones and pay for the old ones.  Most people can't wait for me to mod their parts, so I exchange them with ones that have been sent in before by other members.  If I mod your specific parts, it might take a month and I'd lose my mind trying to keep all the parts separate.  best I can do is exchange your plunger for one that's already been mod'd and mod your housing.  then build it with your springs.  When forewarned, I've gotten the parts Saturday morn and shipped them that afternoon.

3. Once I have your mod installed it's good for life of bike right? As in once I eventually need a new cam chain, I can just have the tensioner reset?
A: Yep, the adjuster doesn't wear out, the chain does.  Install a new chain, reset the plunger, put the bolt in the 1st hole and away you go.

4. My tensioner is at ~17mm w/ 11.7k mi. Approximately how many miles until I should change it?
A: That answer varies a lot.  You should change it when the plunger is at 19mm... at 22mm, the hole is ovaled and you're about to grenade your engine.  A conservative estimate is a 1000 miles for every 1mm.  I would guess that the plunger starts out in life at 6 to 9mm extended.  That would give you 11mm for a little more than 11k miles.  So that guess works out for you.

5. Is there any reason not to go with the used version? I assume they are rebuilt, and function equally well?
A: Yes, I check for function before I send them.  Some have a little ovaling, but the plunger once pinned won't go out as far to need the support of the ovaled part of the hole.

6. How does the rebate work?
A: Send the old tensioner assembly to me and I'll evaluate it.  Most get a full rebate.  A little ovaling in the housing is acceptable, grinding of the plunger depends of extent, bent/broken springs are not.  And the operation will be checked.

7.Do you have any ready to ship?
A: I'm making them all the time but they are made to order, so none are ready but can be ready soon depending on parts availability.

8. Do you take paypal?
A: yes, paypal and zelle, but money order is preferred.

9.What's your turn around time from sending you my chain tensioner to mod and return.
A: If I have the plungers in stock, they can be ready to ship in a couple of days from receipt.  Let me know if you are in a hurry and I'll do my best.

10.What's the best way to ship?
A: I use USPS. 1st class package w/insurance... $15 or so.  Please wipe off all excess oil and put in a zip lock bag with an address label or name tag for identification.

11.What do I send for the mod?
http://www.savageriders.com/verslagen/CamChainClub/AdjAssy.jpg

Title: Re: Cam Chain Club Modified Tensioner Assy
Post by verslagen1 on 06/16/07 at 21:56:44


trooper3 wrote:
Thanks Verslagen!... just got the "original" style weld-on cam adjuster I ordered from you into my sister's Savage. The bike runs sweet, no more noise, way quieter. Looks like I have about 12mm before the spring pin gets to the end of the slot but because my chain is only about 10mm apart I figure I will hear something before it does.  Thanks again. Here is a picture.
Rick C.

http://p1.bikepics.com/2007/06/16/bikepics-933538-800.jpg

Thanks Rick!

Title: Re: Cam Chain Club Modified Tensioner Assy
Post by verslagen1 on 09/16/07 at 13:55:31

A bit of history...


slavy wrote:
I made some mod. to my tensioner- just made the part that slides out longer /welded  about 1" extension/ and drilleed a new hole 12 mm ftom the old one . Now the cam chain tensioner is almost all the way IN. And No, I did not check how does it work, because the engine is still on the bench, waiting for a proper paper work for the bike where it will go.
If somebody wants a picture, just send me an e-mail and I'll send You back a picture.



Title: Re: Cam Chain Club Modified Tensioner Assy
Post by Matti on 10/01/07 at 09:41:10

Got my parts today (You did a splended job Verslagen) and put them in place. Now i have a whispering engine, and i will recomend all Savage ovners to buy a VerSlavy till there next oilchange. /Matti

Title: Re: Cam Chain Club Modified Tensioner Assy
Post by mpescatori on 11/15/07 at 06:39:20

Hi Verslagen, just had the mechanic replace cam chain and fit your tensioner.

Question:
The tensioner he returned me has a small spring-loaded catch and the piston is serrated on the top... is this the standard issue item or had it been reworked already (keep in mind my bike is 19 years old and I'm the 6th owner)

The old tensioner does look in fine shape, though, and has a looong spring inside, so when fully compressed it will push against the cam chain with quite some force...

Regards,

Maurizio

Title: Re: Cam Chain Club Modified Tensioner Assy
Post by Savage_Greg on 04/15/08 at 12:24:00

I just got it http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b277/gmdinusa/hyper.gif

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http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b277/gmdinusa/thumbsup.gif Excellent machine work and fast turn around time. http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b277/gmdinusa/HighFiveSmileys.gif

Title: Re: Cam Chain Club Modified Tensioner Assy
Post by Fat Bastard on 07/12/08 at 07:00:35

No problems installing the verslavy
it was time.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/virago125/verslavy1.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/virago125/verslavy2.jpg

the verslavy in
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/virago125/verslavy3.jpg

the plastic thing still in
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/virago125/verslavy4.jpg

pulled it out
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/virago125/verslavy5.jpg


went for a test ride and no more rattle noise.

Title: Re: Cam Chain Club Modified Tensioner Assy
Post by Fat Bastard on 07/12/08 at 08:20:33

47200 km = 29329 miles

I didn't measure how far out the plunger was.  I was so eager to put the other one in when the cover was off.  took only a few photos.  It was much easier than expected.  

I would recommend the verslavy to every savage owner. Just so that you don't have to think about the plunger popping out.  Mine was rattling and it was past due.

thanks again.

Title: Re: Cam Chain Club Modified Tensioner Assy
Post by Wolf on 04/27/09 at 19:55:58

Hey verslagen1!  

I gots mail!

Yes, the verslavy arrived today safe and sound!  Thank you!  ;D
I also picked up my performance cam and jetset (thank you LANCER) today too!!  Woo hoo!   ;D

Wolf  :D

Title: Re: Cam Chain Club Modified Tensioner Assy
Post by Digger on 06/30/09 at 21:36:14

Ver,

If faced with a choice of which hole of the Verslavy to use, would you choose the one that yields more plunger extension or the one that yields less plunger extension?

TIA!

Title: Re: Cam Chain Club Modified Tensioner Assy
Post by verslagen1 on 06/30/09 at 23:17:38


6C414F4F4D5A280 wrote:
If faced with a choice of which hole of the Verslavy to use, would you choose the one that yields more plunger extension or the one that yields less plunger extension?

Use the 1st hole up until the pin bottoms out.  Then switch.  This will keep the spring tension to a minimum.
Or course if you're almost there, change it over if you want.
But I would tend not to want the plunger fully compressed.

Title: Re: Cam Chain Club Modified Tensioner Assy
Post by splash07 on 09/27/10 at 19:45:21

got it. Its Awesome!

Title: Re: Cam Chain Club Modified Tensioner Assy
Post by verslagen1 on 05/12/11 at 23:21:40


Quote:
What is the advantage of going with this mod instead of the OEM part from BikeBandit?

If you stay with stock, you need to replace the chain, front and rear guides... NOT THE TENSIONER!!!

You only need to replace your tensioner if it looks like this...
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/virago125/verslavy2.jpg

And what's to prevent it happening again... nothing!
My mod pins the plunger to the housing, it will never fall out.
And with the 2nd hole you can extend the life of your chain to the full rated life of the chain.  
As it is, the plunger is ready to fall out at half the allowed stretch.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/virago125/verslavy5.jpg

So do you want to pay over $200 every time or every other time your plunger is ready to fall out?
And count yourself lucky, half the time it falls out the cam gets out of time with the crank and piston meets valves.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (in stock)
Post by OE on 05/13/11 at 02:40:49


5B5556435E5F545C544854430042310 wrote:
What is the advantage of going with this mod instead of the OEM part from BikeBandit?

Man, go with Verslagen's tensioner.  If you put a stock one back in it's only a matter of time (very short time at that) before it does the same thing again.  If you put a new stock tensioner in it will already be extended to the maximum and ready to fall out.  That's a very poor Suzuki design.  I'm going to order one before long myself.
If Verslagen will take my money  :)

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (no stock)
Post by kevinphan on 05/23/11 at 12:33:31

Received mine today, very fast shipping. Thank you!

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (no stock)
Post by savage88 on 05/23/11 at 17:00:48

Thank you! Thak you!  I got it this time.
Though I wonder what happened to the first one you sent me...
I'll definitely let know you if I ever receive that one.
Thanks again.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (no stock)
Post by kevinphan on 05/23/11 at 21:21:46

I'll be sending my stock piece to you tomorrow hopefully. Installed the Verslavy today; super nice part.

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l113/kevin_phan/D70s/D70/D300/165a3cba.jpg

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l113/kevin_phan/D70s/D70/D300/35de751b.jpg

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (no stock)
Post by verslagen1 on 05/23/11 at 22:32:54

Hmmm... time for the second hole   ;D

of course, you knew that.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (no stock)
Post by Joe F on 07/21/11 at 17:19:42

I finally got mine swapped by the local shop.  My 2007 has 15K on it and the mechanic asked why I was putting in the new tensioner.  The one he pulled out looks almost new and it wasn't over extended.  

The whole change over including tensioner, gasket , labor and the oil change cost me over $200.  The core charge really wasn't high enough to be any kind of high priority. Now that said... I'll be sending mine back to get some money back :-)


Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (no stock)
Post by RadRacer on 07/21/11 at 20:29:14

finally got mine swapped out bike currently has 26k on it changed chain at 13k and already on last click dont know how it didnt pop out ill admit i got lucky verslagen1 is a lifesaver and does wonderful work to the tensioners keep it up bro

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (no stock)
Post by RC on 09/04/11 at 21:30:04

I just got my bike put back together today, been out of state for a couple of weeks. It was easy to do and works great. My 09 only has 8000 miles on it but I'm on the second hole, the pin was nearly at the stop on the first one. When I took it apart the plunger was out 16.5mm I'm sure glad I opened it when I did was going to wait till 1200, that may have been to late . Anyway Verslagen1 did a great job, the price was too cheap. I own a service shop and can't imagine how you do that much work so well for 60 bucks but I'm sure glad you do.
RC :)

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (no stock)
Post by jhnzeigler on 09/13/11 at 19:28:03

I fit the part today and it is AMAZING! thank you so much for the fast shipping and the great part.
Ziggy

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (no stock)
Post by Mike W. on 01/07/12 at 09:39:32

I received my Verslay tensioner yesterday. This thing is so good looking, that I hate to put it inside the engine. A true work of love.
Now, off to the garage...

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (Waiting list)
Post by bikertrash on 01/16/12 at 19:34:05

Thanks to all who have helped me with this issue--pulled the crankcase cover today--the original tensioner was extended to right at 20mm--right at its limit.

Verslagen, the old part does not seem to be "wallowed out."  Let me know your preference when I get near the top of the waiting list--I can pull the original to be reworked if that is your preference--thanks.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (Waiting list)
Post by bikertrash on 01/25/12 at 18:55:12

OK, if the plunger in my old tensioner was extended 20mm, whcih plunger hole do I want to use in the rebuilt part?  The hole on the far end of the plunger, or the hole closest to the receptacle that the plunger slides into?

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (Waiting list)
Post by verslagen1 on 01/25/12 at 20:35:01

far end

I advise to keep it in the 1st hole till it's near the end of travel.
Then transfer to the 2nd hole.  This is to minimize the spring force.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (Waiting list)
Post by bikertrash on 01/26/12 at 06:49:15

Thanks V1--I thought from reading other posts that this was the case--just wanted to make sure before I got everything buttoned back up.  

Thanks for being such a great resource. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (Waiting list)
Post by ALfromN.H. on 01/31/12 at 13:51:59

when I took off the circlip it went flying across the garage. I couldn't find it so I ordered 2 just in case one went flying when I put it back together. Waiting until it gets a little warmer to finish the job.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (Waiting list)
Post by kutter79 on 02/15/12 at 18:20:58

Got mine installed last weekend. Worked great. Nice job.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (soon to be in stock)
Post by joeyzaza on 03/29/12 at 17:13:22

Got my Verslavy today!! Nice work! looks great. Ill have it in by the weekend and will send the old one back. THank you and keep up the good work!!!!

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (soon to be in stock)
Post by RideToOblivion on 04/05/12 at 05:54:22

VerSlavy received. Really clean work I can barely tell its welded. Ill post some pictures when I get the time to take out my old one and install. Thanks for the hard work.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (soon to be in stock)
Post by cfarrell2 on 04/25/12 at 13:41:27

Thanks again Verslagen1.  I will send you back the old tensioner on Monday.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (soon to be in stock)
Post by Paraquat on 05/04/12 at 15:28:14

http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv231/Paraquat_bucket/tensioner.jpg
Probably had a few more miles on it?

Forgot to update you, V, my core will be there on the 8th. I forgot to put any paperwork inside saying it's from me so yea. It's from me.


--Steve

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (soon to be in stock)
Post by TossingLead on 05/12/12 at 20:02:34

Changed it out this morning PO did not have a clue. I just got it with 16,980 and it had been setting the last two years plus.
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n311/JeffC_TEX/Savage002.jpghttp://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n311/JeffC_TEX/Savage003.jpg
Thanks Verslagen1

Title: Re: Verslagen's place
Post by jamesjoshua on 06/15/12 at 10:24:00

i got my verslagen in the mail today and gotta say u guys are great,i totally appreate it and my old part will be in the mail on monday,thanks again and i look forward to doing more business in the future

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (soon to be in stock)
Post by oh_hi_bear on 03/26/13 at 00:03:38

GOT IT!!! thanks.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (soon to be in stock)
Post by verslagen1 on 04/11/13 at 14:26:12


2B3A2E37342937345B0 wrote:
Would you suggest an inspection and measurement of the plunger first, or just replacement?

Believe it or not... this is not a maintenance free bike.
You do have to open it up once in a while to check things out.

Regardless of the miles, if this is a new2u bike, you should open it up and find out what's in there (yes, I've sold lot's of these) and how far the fuse is sticking out.  If you're careful, you can get the cover off w/out tearing it.  But have a new one available just in case.

Of course putting one of these in there asap, will lessen the risk of it going kerboom from the getgo.

Measure how far the plunger sticks out in mm's, subtract 19, times a 1000 and that's about how many miles you've got till you look at it next.  That's usually a pretty safe number, but you should be wary at all times for unusually knocking, grinding, etc.  but you do that anyway... right?

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (soon to be in stock)
Post by verslagen1 on 07/01/13 at 12:14:22


5D747F7F683C5574427964637D7468110 wrote:
What is the turn around time on my parts?

Typically, the following Saturday.
Provided you've reserved a plunger with me and have pre-paid or paid with money order.
Worst case 4 weeks... sometimes life's a beach.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (limited availability)
Post by SteveIsGr8 on 08/12/13 at 15:38:47

Adjuster received today, installed and the bike is running nice and quiet.  The workmanship is top notch and the service was excellent.  Thanks

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (limited availability)
Post by NHLycan on 11/18/13 at 14:58:59

Sweet!

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (limited availability)
Post by Cpt.Brad on 11/20/13 at 07:32:03

Thanks man I got mine a while back. On time and in perfect order. It is now in its new home and fits perfectly. I'd put some pics of it in here but I don't have enough posts, but I still wanted to give you a shout out. You're the real deal!

Title: Re: Cam Chain Adjuster check
Post by OldSport on 02/04/14 at 13:55:03

Installed the cam chain adjuster today.  worked really well.  

Before

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wMfDcQdQ9wM/UvBn9UZ-XCI/AAAAAAAABKE/4PR8Px9woFM/s1600/photo+609.jpg

After

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-a06ozGDNHQM/UvBoaMDM1xI/AAAAAAAABK0/PlGN_b3Njew/s1600/photo+639.jpg

Thanks again.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (limited availability)
Post by verslagen1 on 05/15/14 at 12:01:09

New FAQ response...

9.What's your turn around time from sending you chain tensioner to mod and return.
A: Confirm with me that I have the plungers in stock, then send it by Tuesday, it'll be here by Friday, I'll have it back in the mail on Saturday and it'll be back in your hands by Tuesday.


Quote:
Are the supplies to make these still out of stock?

What I constantly run out of stock are the modified plungers.
I do have new tensioners ready to modify.
Life and heat are getting in the way of getting these done... sorry.

I sell a lot of new ones, but rarely do I get the old ones back.
If I sell you a new one, I offer you $30 to send me the old one back.
A little ovaling is ok, grind marks or other heavy damage are not.
Good springs are worth something too.


Quote:
Second question is,  besides the safety benefits and longevity of the cam chain,  does this provide any performance upgrades in any way,  be it big or small?
No.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (limited availability)
Post by ZAR on 05/21/14 at 18:47:26

Well I've passed the 19,000 mile mark on my 1996. Most of those miles have been extended runs (40 miles) at 60-75 mph commuting to work or weekend runs.  Some <10 mile runs to town for coffee or errands. I'm thinking I need to quit procrastinating and call Versy quick. What do the resident pundits say?

Added Question
I'm sure the subject of riding style and miles per ride vs. cam chain tensioner wear has been covered but I can't seem to find reference to that info. Has any conclusive evidence or educated guesses been made on this?

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (limited availability)
Post by pgambr on 05/21/14 at 18:55:36

I highly recommend it.  I put one on last week and it wasn't difficult.  My cam chain was in good condition and I have peace of mind my s40 should run well for years to come.   ;)  

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (limited availability)
Post by verslagen1 on 05/21/14 at 19:04:24


061D0E5C0 wrote:
Added Question
I'm sure the subject of riding style and miles per ride vs. cam chain tensioner wear has been covered but I can't seem to find reference to that info. Has any conclusive evidence or educated guesses been made on this?

Well if you read thru 4 pages of info in the adjuster life link you get to this...

485B4C4D525F595B500F3E0 wrote:
My current thinking is large amount of wear is caused by over tensioning during the thermal cycle.  The pawl will click over during the hottest (or coldest) part of the cycle, when it cools down (or heats up) wear will occur until it's at a medium tension.  So, regardless of the tensioner tension wear will occur nearly linear through the miles.

6 to 9mm is my guess how it comes from the factory.  When I did the 1st conversion, it was 9mm out.

So if you take a lot of short trips, your chain won't last as long.
so ride all day, tell your significant other you had to.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (limited availability)
Post by ZAR on 05/21/14 at 19:23:17


564552534C4147454E11200 wrote:
[quote author=061D0E5C0 link=1180206459/90#96 date=1400723246]
Added Question
I'm sure the subject of riding style and miles per ride vs. cam chain tensioner wear has been covered but I can't seem to find reference to that info. Has any conclusive evidence or educated guesses been made on this?

Well if you read thru 4 pages of info in the adjuster life link you get to this...

485B4C4D525F595B500F3E0 wrote:
My current thinking is large amount of wear is caused by over tensioning during the thermal cycle.  The pawl will click over during the hottest (or coldest) part of the cycle, when it cools down (or heats up) wear will occur until it's at a medium tension.  So, regardless of the tensioner tension wear will occur nearly linear through the miles.

6 to 9mm is my guess how it comes from the factory.  When I did the 1st conversion, it was 9mm out.

So if you take a lot of short trips, your chain won't last as long.
so ride all day, tell your significant other you had to.[/quote]

Versy I just found that info and was reading it while you posted your answer :-[. One thing I'm still pondering is some of the group seems to think an easy riding style prolongs the wear and failure of the tensioner. With my 19,000+ miles, very few of them have been easy. I'm more of a "ride it like ya stole it" ( Yeah I know....a 58 year old guy ought to act his age!) kind of guy so my bike seems to go counter to those ideas.
Just a little more info for your research ;)

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (limited availability)
Post by verslagen1 on 05/21/14 at 19:32:35


1D0615470 wrote:
One thing I'm still pondering is some of the group seems to think an easy riding style prolongs the wear and failure of the tensioner. With my 19,000+ miles, very few of them have been easy. I'm more of a "ride it like ya stole it" ( Yeah I know....a 58 year old guy ought to act his age!) kind of guy so my bike seems to go counter to those ideas.
Just a little more info for your research ;)

none of those easy riders has anything near stingers mileage on a chain.   :P

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (limited availability)
Post by LS650THUMPER on 05/22/14 at 19:01:21

my thumper has almost 20k miles,  should I be worried ? no noise like in the youtube video !!!!  :o

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (limited availability)
Post by verslagen1 on 05/23/14 at 15:14:14


6877121114706C7169746176240 wrote:
my thumper has almost 20k miles,  should I be worried ? no noise like in the youtube video !!!!  :o

The telltale noises can be subtle, unless you check it you'll never know.
The 2 that I have started knocking on the case.
When they get far enough along, they pop out going up or down.
Going up they get stuck against the case and stay that way.
Going down results in loud grinding or a sudden halt.
99.999% go down.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (limited availability)
Post by verslagen1 on 08/24/14 at 12:12:14

I have a quality alert announcement...

Some of the roll pins I've used since 10/28/13 maybe defective.

Some of them are tapered and if I put in the smaller end, may fall out.

Although I test every one, a few may have slipped thru.

Well, at least one did.

So if you've purchased a verslavy from 10/28/13 till now,  be on the alert for the tell tale knocking on the clutch cover.

Anyone finding or concerned they may have one, may return it for repair.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (limited availability)
Post by running-it-stock on 12/27/14 at 18:45:53

Here is a picture of mine after 13,216 miles. Didn't need to change the gasket.

http://i60.tinypic.com/ay2bmx.jpg

Verslagen, I sent you my used one a couple months ago. Very well built. Happy Holidays

EDIT: Anyone know what that bolt in the bottom left corner is for? It was coming loose so I tightened it up.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy (vacation)
Post by Mekh on 04/30/15 at 06:56:29

Hi there,

Newcomer here, but having been lurking for the past month or so (have "scanned" pages 1-323 so far :) ) since I got a really good deal on a '94 Savage that has run 55.000km (34.000 miles?) doing mostly long rides around Europe as I understood it, but has been standing still for the past 10'ish years.

While it has been standing still for so long, it has been dragged out every year to be run until well warmed up, then an oil change.

All in all it looks and feels really fine. The only thing I've had to do was replace the front fork seals that started leaking badly after a few hundred km's driving.

Now... the engine has a tick/tick or tingg/tingg sound that at first I interpreted as slight piston slap, but after reading here a lot, I want to check if it may be the cam chain tensioner, which to my understanding is pretty much the only weak point of this fine bike. (Also haven't checked the valve adjustment yet. Intend to do that very soon).

In case it is the cam chain tensioner that is nearing its outer limit, I guess I would want to make me a Verslavy, either by welding or by machining one myself if necessary. I would not want to try and weld this myself, so would have to find someone who can.

I would like to know how long the extension of the tensioner should be.

Greetings from Denmark and thanks for this great forum with so much knowledge(sharing) present.

EDIT:
Maybe I should mention that my intention of fixing one myself is the distance and time involved, due to the fact that I live in Europe and that Verslagen is on vacation till May as I understand it... :)

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by Mekh on 05/06/15 at 02:04:21


4A594E4F505D5B59520D3C0 wrote:
Need a little more time to get the 1st batch completed, but vacation is over.

Size your extension so you can put the second hole about 5/8" over from the 1st.


Sorry for the late reply, but life has been busy lately.
Thank you for the extension distance info!

In case I would like to purchase a Verslavy from you, do you have any experience with dealings from overseas, in this case Denmark?
I'm thinking of prices, shipping, delivery time and so on?

Would you be willing to send a Verslavy towards me, while I send my old one towards you, if I make a downpayment (or whatever it's properly called) to ensure you I'm not pulling any tricks?  :)

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by verslagen1 on 05/06/15 at 07:12:24


78505E5D350 wrote:
In case I would like to purchase a Verslavy from you, do you have any experience with dealings from overseas, in this case Denmark?
I'm thinking of prices, shipping, delivery time and so on?

Would you be willing to send a Verslavy towards me, while I send my old one towards you, if I make a downpayment (or whatever it's properly called) to ensure you I'm not pulling any tricks?  :)

I've probably sent more than a dozen up into the nordic countries.
Shipping to most countries is $50 and takes about a week.
Of course there's cheaper ways, slower, uninsured, you can use that to send me yours.
You'll make the full payment of $75 + $50 for shipping + $60 deposit for the adjuster that you promise to send.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by Mekh on 05/07/15 at 14:10:48


514255544B4640424916270 wrote:
I've probably sent more than a dozen up into the nordic countries.
Shipping to most countries is $50 and takes about a week.
Of course there's cheaper ways, slower, uninsured, you can use that to send me yours.
You'll make the full payment of $75 + $50 for shipping + $60 deposit for the adjuster that you promise to send.


I had a chance to open the engine this evening and have a look at the tensioner and I have a slight suspicion that I might benefit from a Verslavy in the near future... https://www.dropbox.com/s/fghtsnxji8ijxmh/20150507-IMG_2225.jpg?dl=0
I can't insert images directly it seems  :(

This is at 56k km (35k miles), with no knowledge of prior maintenance and/or repairs carried out on the engine and/or MC.

Anyway... I would like to purchase a Verslavy from you. What should my next step(s) be and what parts would I need to send to you in exchange for the Verslavy?

If interested, I have a few more photos:
1. https://www.dropbox.com/s/9gcv3se4vtm85or/20150507-IMG_2221.jpg?dl=0
2. https://www.dropbox.com/s/cv5bglbvq6tn8gz/20150507-IMG_2217.jpg?dl=0
3. https://www.dropbox.com/s/kp990ci6cqhqswg/20150507-IMG_2226.jpg?dl=0
4. https://www.dropbox.com/s/bljq2j85tv9m8a3/20150507-IMG_2230.jpg?dl=0
5. https://www.dropbox.com/s/qgy0k23yqhicd0p/20150507-IMG_2232.jpg?dl=0

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by Wolfe on 05/18/15 at 16:21:30

Received mine today thank you sir very much. I appreciate the quick turn around. Another very pleased customer! :D

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by RadioPassive on 06/04/15 at 13:41:49

Got mine in the mail today, thank you!

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by Mekh on 06/12/15 at 02:23:02

Hi,

I will soon receive my Verslavy and was preparing for it last night and found some residue that looked like liquid gasket at the top oil passage. I thought that I would not need to use liquid gasket, so I wanted to ask about it here.

I also had a look at some photos from "The Savage Companion Photo CD" linked to here: http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1199986392

On the photos named "Clutch_Cover_05" and "Clutch_Cover_06" I can see some "Adhesive Sealer", which I haven't seen on the 3'rd party gasket that I have received. It may be on the backside, as I haven't unwrapped the gasket yet.


In case there is no such "adhesive sealer" on my gasket, should I use some liquid gasket at this location and/or would you use some for the entire gasket on one or both sides?

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by verslagen1 on 06/12/15 at 03:48:29

I personally don't use any sealer or dressing on the gasket other than what comes on the oem gasket.

I will oil the surface of the case so I might save the gasket if I have to open it up at a later date.
I have not had a problem with leakage

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by Mekh on 06/15/15 at 10:28:28

I have received the cam chain adjuster. :)
Nice looking job, Verslagen... /thumbsup

I am about to put it on and was looking for what torque I should use and I see 2 Cam chain tensioner related bolts in Chapter 4 - table 2 in the Clymer manual.

One is called "Set bolt" with a rated torque of 20-25Nm and the other is called "Plate bolt" with a rated torque of 8-12Nm.

I assume the bolt I use to mount the tensioner with is the "Plate bolt" and that the tensioner swivels about the "Set bolt" as 20-25Nm seems like too much for an M6 bolt, so... I wanted to ask here just to make sure.

Should I torque this bolt with 10Nm?

PS.
The bolt I'm talking about is the "B" bolt in figure 37 on page 80 in the Clymer manual.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by raven37 on 09/18/15 at 19:26:11

A couple questions:

How well does the verslavy in an old adjuster work/hold up?

Do you need my adjuster first or can I send it back when I change them out? My bike is my daily driver right now.

Is shipping included or extra?

Any idea, from past orders, on shipping time to Pennsylvania? Asking because my bike is at 13,400mi and I've started to hear a slight tapping. And according to experience/popular opinion around the forum, it's time for a new one.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by verslagen1 on 09/18/15 at 20:11:21

The very 1st one was used, and that was 80,000 miles ago.
It takes a lickin' and is still tickin'

I have used adjusters waiting.

domestic shipping is included.

it depends on the route, sometimes overnite, at most 4 days.
and of course, personnel.  I once had a package shipping to me from Lostwages, via houston.  The couriers name musta been Wong Way.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by tlitteer on 10/03/15 at 07:11:26

Email button is in-fact not working.
I'm interested in the cam tensioner and the head plug.
Will you have stock available soon? I wasn't planning on pulling the motor apart just yet to send the core. And just out of curiosity, where are you finding the new tensioners for $60??

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by tlitteer on 10/07/15 at 06:39:09

So apparently the person that owned the bike before me was proactive in the longevity of the bike. As I was making plans to upgrade the tensioner while tearing in to my bike for a custom RYCA build, I pulled the clutch/ timing cover off to find a Genuine Verslavy tensioner!! :o

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by verslagen1 on 10/07/15 at 07:36:07


7E66637E7E6F6F780A0 wrote:
So apparently the person that owned the bike before me was proactive in the longevity of the bike. As I was making plans to upgrade the tensioner while tearing in to my bike for a custom RYCA build, I pulled the clutch/ timing cover off to find a Genuine Verslavy tensioner!! :o

Good to hear, a "V" stamped next to "Verslagen" in the pic below indicates it was made from a new adjuster usually.  Initials indicate made from used adjuster.

Still need a head plug?

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by HovisPresley on 12/31/15 at 21:59:57

You might want to order yourself a gasket, they're cheap.
The chances are that if you're careful, you'll be able to re-use the old gasket.
I bought a Verslavy, sent to the UK, best thing I ever did.
Great service, easy to fit, and peace of mind  ;)

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by vanna_brown on 08/01/16 at 10:25:53

hey, verslagen, i'm interested in buying a cam chain tensioner.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by verslagen1 on 08/01/16 at 12:19:05


6B7C73737C7F6F726A731D0 wrote:
hey, verslagen, i'm interested in buying a cam chain tensioner.

If you're just interested, check back in September.
It's just too hot to work in the garage.
If you have immediate need, I got a couple.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by shaunnz on 08/19/16 at 22:46:37

Hey mate interested in 1 of your cam chain tensioners im from nz and have paypal was just wondering if you were able to help me out without me supplying any parts i dont mind paying abit extra for the hassle of getting one made up and sent to me let me know cheers.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by shaunnz on 08/21/16 at 05:05:39

50 is fine as i wouldnt think i can get a modified cam chain tensioner here in nz my suzuki dealer is useless wouldnt go there again dosent seem to kno a thing about these bike and questionable mechanical skills i might add haha..  and i dont even want to ride my bike after hearing all these stories on here it seems like the norm to fit 1 of ur mods on these bikes and u have great feed back on here and sound like the man to talk to..i have a 2006 s40 with 40000ks.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by shaunnz on 08/22/16 at 14:56:01

Can you get me one to nz without me supplyin you my old tensioner if so how long would it take to have it here my bikes down and i cant ride it .such a pain but i understand theres a few ppl after these of you and il have to wait but just wondering if u can deff help and how long i might be waiting for the tensioner.cheers mate dont meen to be a pain.and also incl say the 65 shipping what would the total cost be .cheers

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by verslagen1 on 08/22/16 at 17:22:08

I'm outta the shop for the next weeks.
And shipping is at least a week too.
Yes I have used adjusters.
$75+40+65=180

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by shaunnz on 08/22/16 at 21:53:09

Ok sounds good well send me a messge when your back in shop and il let you kno if something else hasnt popd up but i doubt it and will most likley be deff keen to get one of these made up and sent here from you cheers dude giv me a bell in a couple weeks thanks..

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by stewmills on 08/23/16 at 08:05:39

I don't need one now as I am only at 7K miles, but wouldn't mind having one hanging around for whenever I get to that point. Considering I don't have a blank to send you, does it make sense for me to just buy one or wait until I have my bike apart in the future and just do a swap then?

If it's cost effective now, I'll participate. If it's extra $ unnecessarily, I may wait until I am really closer to needing one in the next year or so.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by shaunnz on 08/24/16 at 03:57:39

Just a quick question are all the cam chain adjusters the same over the years from savage to boulervard s40 or have they made them slightly difrent between models .also im asuming me owning the 2006 s40 boulervard i still need to do your mod on the adjuster or is this a earlier savage thing have suzuki corected this issue seems like someone was on too much jap saky comin up with this crap adjuster haha.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by verslagen1 on 08/24/16 at 06:48:28

They're all the same.

Again they're all the same

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by shaunnz on 08/24/16 at 14:38:16

Cheers mate sorry to be asking heaps of questions .love these bikes my bobbers coming along great cheers for your time appreciate it mate.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by shaunnz on 09/15/16 at 23:55:47

Hey mate shaun here from nz sorry i havnt checked my mail i am still keen on the cam chain adjuster just send me your bank account details in my inbox and i will give you my address?.i will use my auntis paypal account if u like im not sure how all that works but she buys loads of stuff from overseas as shes a collector so im sure we can figure it out.i live in nelson  south island  new zealand am so keen to get ur part my bike is bobbed out and hav old cam chain tensioner  out and waitin for yours.cheers mate give me a messge on how to follow thru with this trade awsome..

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by shaunnz on 09/16/16 at 15:17:30

Sweet guys the adress is 11 collins road richmond_ nelson_ newzealand .post code is 7020..let us know how much with the shipping and how to go about using the paypal to pay you she usually only uses it on ebay but im sure we will figure it out thanks heaps guys.shaun.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by verslagen1 on 09/16/16 at 19:17:50


243F362239392D570 wrote:
Sweet guys the adress is 11 collins road richmond_ nelson_ newzealand .post code is 7020..let us know how much with the shipping and how to go about using the paypal to pay you she usually only uses it on ebay but im sure we will figure it out thanks heaps guys.shaun.

1 week delivery with insurance $64
2 week delivery with insurance $34
? week delivery registered $27

I'll send you an email for payment.

OOPS... the email app didn't work, please send me your addy.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by shaunnz on 09/16/16 at 20:30:56

Sweet as i will do what ever is the quickest delivery so just give me the full amount of what i need to pay and your paypal account my email is hard0utcandyy_@hotmail.com  cheers.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by shaunnz on 09/17/16 at 22:24:20

Hey man i havnt got a email yet so i emailed you on your camchain email addy on your profile so it might be easier to reply back to my email..so i get it..am keen on the more expensive shipping and the above adress is were to send the part cheers..just need your account details n price etc so hopefully u get my email cheers..

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by Wake51 on 09/23/16 at 07:02:43

Internet has been down in Eastern Virginia due to recent flooding, back online and will send payment after work this afternoon.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by wordet11 on 10/14/16 at 04:22:49

Just received my Verslavy in the mail a couple of days ago. Thanks again verslagen1! Your hard work is much appreciated.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by SavageMan99 on 10/16/16 at 08:15:20

Got mine, looks great.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by ohiomoto on 10/21/16 at 05:18:00

Got mine too.  Thanks

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by Billy1258 on 11/29/16 at 15:57:20

I would like to purchase one of these cam chain tensioners. Can someone tell me where I would mail my old one? I tried to email verslagen1, but got no response. Help! my bike is in pieces right now and I want to start putting it back together.  :)

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by verslagen1 on 11/29/16 at 19:26:28

If your email button was active, I could email you.

check your pm's.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by MiniSteve on 06/23/17 at 22:56:22

Anyone after one of these from Sydney, Australia? Looking to split postage costs.
Most likely will be ordering one of these from Verslagen. Latest update is that they are sold out for a couple of weeks.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by Skip86 on 10/10/17 at 09:00:33

Just received this in the mail,great workmanship,and fast shipping... Dude you nailed it! The head plug looks great too... Thanks man!

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by SoC on 10/12/17 at 07:57:57

Mr. Verslagen, My package arrived yesterday, thanks. When the weather turns I will install and send out the old one.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by facestabbah on 06/29/18 at 21:18:05

Hey guys I'm a recent savage owner looking for a little advice/ networking help.
 I'm having trouble emailing verslagen1 about a tensioner, possibly i'm too new? If you get a chance my email is facestabbah@gmail.com. I'm coming up on 15k and she's my daily ride to work so I don't want to put this off too long. Any help would be appreciated.
Happy Saturday everyone!

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by verslagen1 on 06/29/18 at 21:51:29

you got mail

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by SavageMan99 on 07/05/18 at 10:37:25

I have a donor. I need a couple bolts to mount a Harley muffler
 Do you have any parts to trade?

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by verslagen1 on 07/05/18 at 10:54:54


5F6D7A6D6B69416D6235350C0 wrote:
I have a donor. I need a couple bolts to mount a Harley muffler
 Do you have any parts to trade?

I got backlog.
very busy time of the year.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by Ides Ov March on 07/05/18 at 21:35:21

Tensioner installed, new gasket and an oil change. All good.  Thank you Verslagen.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by LuRod on 09/05/18 at 19:00:10

Hi, I'm new here.  I can't seem to email Verslagen.  My email is utincutin@gmail.com.  I probably need to post more than 1 post.  I have an 07' with approx 9k miles that i picked up cheap.  The odometer doesn't work though, so who knows how many true miles its got.  Plunger is measuring 21 mm of extension.  

Thanks

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by GOF on 09/10/18 at 12:33:56

Getting ready to change the tensioner. Just sent the email. But I got to thinking. As the tensioner has a pawl to restrict the inward movement of the plunger would a lighter spring place the chain and guides under less pressure?  Would this result in reduced wear?

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by verslagen1 on 09/10/18 at 14:28:14


414940060 wrote:
Getting ready to change the tensioner. Just sent the email. But I got to thinking. As the tensioner has a pawl to restrict the inward movement of the plunger would a lighter spring place the chain and guides under less pressure?  Would this result in reduced wear?

Assuming no engine vibration, yes but there is a lot of vibrations that would cause the motion anyway.
Once it's clicked out, thermal cycling causes the damage.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by aearil on 09/18/18 at 18:27:56

Hi! For some reason it won't let me email you.

I'm interested in your verslavy mod cam tensioner. My 2015 is at 15k miles and has been making that cam chain noise for a while now (just figured out that's probably what it is!). Do you have any of the used/modded ones available?

I'll be checking it this weekend to confirm that this is the issue, but if I can install it at the same time that would be awesome!

My email address is kat.liege@gmail.com. I can email you my address on there. Thanks!

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by verslagen1 on 09/18/18 at 22:22:06

you got mail.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by GOF on 09/19/18 at 14:12:43

With 15k I am sure aearil is in a more needful position than I. If it will get him done sooner put him ahead of me in the queue.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by aearil on 09/19/18 at 15:36:46


5B535A1C0 wrote:
With 15k I am sure aearil is in a more needful position than I. If it will get him done sooner put him ahead of me in the queue.


Thanks so much, but I wouldn't want to take your place. I am ordering a new chain & guides. When I open it up this weekend, I'll replace if needed and if not I can wait.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by aearil on 09/19/18 at 15:44:19

Maybe stupid question but if I'm doing this, DO I need to replace the guides?? Assuming it hasn't fallen out yet and nothing is specifically damaged, it would just be the stretched chain that needs replacement, correct?

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by GOF on 09/19/18 at 17:13:34


4047424E4C4E12182B0 wrote:
Maybe stupid question but if I'm doing this, DO I need to replace the guides?? Assuming it hasn't fallen out yet and nothing is specifically damaged, it would just be the stretched chain that needs replacement, correct?


I m not the expert here by any means. But I would think you could look the guides over for wear or signs of other damage and reuse if they are in decent shape. However, I'd look real close if the chain is already making noises.

As for whose turn I will not be needing the parts prior to laying the bike up for winter. I am truly not in a hurry.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by verslagen1 on 09/19/18 at 22:20:20


3C3B3E3230326E64570 wrote:
Maybe stupid question but if I'm doing this, DO I need to replace the guides?? Assuming it hasn't fallen out yet and nothing is specifically damaged, it would just be the stretched chain that needs replacement, correct?

depends on the condition of the guides, they can be worn but still usable.  But if there are a lot of cracks I would replace as it could shed the plastic and clog up the intake screen of the oil pump.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by WunGun on 12/05/18 at 15:19:19

I tried email but it gives me a window that closes after a few seconds. I have the tensioner out of the bike I can send you, it is 20mm out. Send me an email when you have time. Its December so I'm not expecting a rush.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by WunGun on 12/21/18 at 02:59:01

Just wanted to thank You! The refurbished tensioner is flawless. The security of mind was well spent, this little bike will see many many more miles because of it.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by crazymactech on 01/31/19 at 10:00:10

Verslagen, link to email you won't work since it wants to call up a mail client.  I would like to order the tensioner kit from you.  Could you email me with what it would cost?  I would want a complete kit so I can swap it out in the future.  Email is crazymactech@gmail.com

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by grapefruit423 on 07/30/19 at 18:49:40

Verslagen, I emailed you but I have not heard back. I don't have enough posts to PM you. Maybe you can PM me? Thanks.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by verslagen1 on 07/30/19 at 22:07:45

pm sent

if you activate your email button I can email you.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by grapefruit423 on 07/30/19 at 23:13:52

Email button should be active now

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by kman on 09/10/19 at 22:10:58

Verslagen, I am interested in buying a tensioner. My email is lilkman@gmail.com. Thanks

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by verslagen1 on 09/11/19 at 15:21:39

Just put an order in for the new parts required for the over-tension end of the plunger.
It'll be a month or 2 before I can iron out the assembly bugs, new tools, etc.

I will make an upgrade available to existing verslavies at $50 plus shipping.

Verslavies will continue to be available, $70, $120, $190, domestic shipping. (your parts, recycled,  or new)

The new over-tension adjuster will be  $120, $170, $240, domestic shipping. (your parts, recycled,  or new)

I'm thinking VerslavyOT for the new name (sorry JOG), maybe V-OT for short.
http://www.savageriders.com/verslagen/CamChainClub/V-OT-compressed.jpg
http://www.savageriders.com/verslagen/CamChainClub/V-OT-extended.jpg

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by Ken-Chan on 09/19/19 at 20:28:54

Email sent. Hope to hear from you soon!

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by TheCaptain88 on 09/23/19 at 12:56:11

@Verslavy, for some reason the email link on this site is broken. Care to share your email or PM it to me? Interested in purchasing new tensioner.

Thanks!

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by TheCaptain88 on 09/25/19 at 07:10:23

@verslavy Just following up on this.

Thanks! I am not able to email or PM you.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by d3adrock on 12/15/19 at 15:44:17

Hi. just picked up my new (to me) savage yesterday and cant wait to do this mod. Are there any left?

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by verslagen1 on 12/15/19 at 18:19:36


51065451475A565E350 wrote:
Hi. just picked up my new (to me) savage yesterday and cant wait to do this mod. Are there any left?

No they're all on the right side.   ;D

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by tehandyb on 02/25/20 at 20:57:59

Emailed!

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by goldentouchhi on 06/28/20 at 15:30:38

Hi Verslagen.

So aparently I cannot send you a PM unless I have made 10 posts. So, my message to you is:

I have a brand new cam chain tensioner I'd like to send to you and have you mod it. I'm in no great rush. Where do I send it to? If you would be so kind to email me at goldentouchhi@yahoo.com I would greatly appreciate it.

Thank you.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by voltz on 07/07/20 at 23:43:53

Hi Verlagen,

Would like to order a cam chain tensioner from you. I have 24k on mine and it’s starting to get noisy. It’s my main commuter.
Please email me the price and how to order , please (voltztadeo@gmail.com)
Thanks

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by goldentouchhi on 07/08/20 at 12:13:40

I'd really love to get one. But I guess I have to post 8 more times. LOL  ;D

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by goldentouchhi on 07/08/20 at 12:15:03

What I'd like is to send my brand new one out for an upgrade, then once I get it back, send my old one to get retrofitted. I'm looking to buy another Savage, so I'm sure I'll need to replace that one as well.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by Icey on 07/15/20 at 01:03:38

Dear Verslagen,

I have emailed you, though I haven't had a reply. Do you still make this mod? If so, could you mail me on: Martijnpit97@gmail.com

Thanks in regards,

Martijn :)

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by elysianforest on 09/14/20 at 16:46:51

Sent an email too. Very interested in getting this mod!

Thanks,

Forest

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by Icey on 09/16/20 at 03:01:06

I don't think he's active anymore, though. Done the mod myself and it worked out quite fine. You just gotta find yourself a decent welder!

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by verslagen1 on 09/16/20 at 04:54:04

I’m glad you mentioned it forest. Found your email in the spam folder.
And yes I’m still active.
I’m very busy with many things. If I’ve missed an email from you, try again or try a pm

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by elysianforest on 10/01/20 at 14:38:32

I'm thinking my last email may have gone to spam again. Just hoping to get an ETA on things as I'm really missing my wind therapy.

Thanks!

Forest

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by QNero on 06/09/21 at 02:05:51

Hello, My name is Chris, and I'd be interested in ordering some of your offered parts and services!

I live in Colorado and my zip is 80227.

I'm interested in your cam chain tensioner upgrade and have a brand new one sitting by waiting for instructions.

I'm also interested in some of your other products like the machined plug, or plug's in place of the plastic ones? Those are really nice btw!

I'll probably be needing to also get some of the right foot peg and mounting hardware down the road.

Currently, I'm completely tearing my bike apart to rebuild it from the ground up (engine included) since it has sat in storage for well over seventeen years. When, I was rinding it I was going through foot pegs like crazy on the New Mexico roads between Quemado and Silver City.

I'm a counter-stearing freakizoid! Love drifting this Bike!

Well at any rate I'm looking seriously upgrade the power and performance of this bike. Any further suggestions would be welcomed. 8-)


Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by verslagen1 on 06/09/21 at 08:49:47

Click on the email button below.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by QNero on 06/10/21 at 02:50:06

I'm going to contact Apple to see what's going on with the browser and why the allow button is nonfunctional.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by badwolf on 06/10/21 at 05:40:49

You need to have at least 10 posts for things to work. Just add a few posts saying 'Hi'.

( but then again you are using a Apple product, you can only do what they allow you to do. )

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by verslagen1 on 06/10/21 at 07:10:59

email button should work at any count,
only the pm button requires a 10 count at which he has 12 now.

pm me your email or activate your email button.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by GraellBoris on 06/12/21 at 16:41:31

Hi. i emailed you, this is my address bgraell97@gmail.com

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by ilovehoneybs on 08/10/21 at 10:55:49

Hi,

Tried the email button but it's not working for me.

I'd like to get a cam chain tensioner replacement and a right foot peg if available.

My email is phaseonebees@gmail.com

Thanks!

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by verslagen1 on 10/04/21 at 14:31:12

Mail services have increased, please note the price bump and additional payment method.

- The VerSlavy ------------------------------------------------

Verslavy mod (pin, slot and second hole) in a new adjuster for $200 by paypal
                                                                                          $195 by money order or zelle

- The VerSlavy with your parts ----------------------------

Verslavy mod (pin, slot and second hole) with your parts for $90 by paypal
                                                                                        $85 by money order or zelle

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by verslagen1 on 03/14/22 at 11:00:19

Costs for the new adjusters are going up.
$210 for the new assy verslavy

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by TRLREDY on 03/14/22 at 19:56:32

Hi.  I sent you an email about purchasing one.  Thank you!

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by dbj on 05/16/22 at 08:14:45

Hi Verslagen, I am unable to send an email through the link, but am interested in a VerSlavy chain tensioner

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by verslagen1 on 05/16/22 at 09:15:06


272129430 wrote:
Hi Verslagen, I am unable to send an email through the link, but am interested in a VerSlavy chain tensioner


I'd email you but your email button isn't on.
check your pm

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by verslagen1 on 07/11/22 at 16:02:39

Postal rates have just doubled in cost... no I'm not kidding.

So prices will have to be adjusted accordingly.    :(

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by davidsc on 03/21/23 at 08:11:52

Sent email about part upgrade.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by verslagen1 on 03/21/23 at 10:34:21

back at you

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by Ari on 04/10/23 at 14:38:28

I saw that the price of shipping has increased, and wanted to know the refreshed pricing.  I sent an email and haven't received a response.  

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by verslagen1 on 04/10/23 at 18:41:10

If you're ariel, then I just sent you the updated prices.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by Ari on 04/11/23 at 09:50:42

That I am, and order away!  

Thanks!

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by verslagen1 on 05/25/23 at 11:51:21

I installed a new version of the VerslavyOT as a plunger only version before the AR trip last year (apr22) and have a little over 1000 miles on it (gone are the days of frequent rides and high mileage)
As I was in a bit of a hurry, I neglected to take a few measurements during the original installation but on inspection today it doesn't look if there has been any more extension at all. See below.
Current mileage is 90647.
I replaced the center spring for a lower extension force as well.
This is currently a second hole only mod and requires only the plunger to be modified in combination with a new machined tab and springs.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by vladoc on 07/26/23 at 20:51:59

Hi Verslagen, "send an email through the link" doesn't work for me.I'm interested in a your chain tensioner. I have 1998 Savage, 16K miles.
What is the best way to order it?

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by verslagen1 on 07/26/23 at 22:13:17

you get an email in just a little bit

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by ThumperPaul on 12/11/23 at 12:09:25

I've read thru all 11 pages (fascinating!)...

Did I get this kinda correct -- If the existing plunger is riding out 15mm+, assemble your new Versy CCT in the 2nd hole on a Versy CCT.  If it's 15mm or less, start in Hole #1 and recheck as follows for possible transfer to Hole #2.  Because nobody likes having their spring compressed too much.

Recheck Mileage Table (19mm - existing plunger extension mm) x 1,000

15mm - recheck in 4k miles
14mm - 5k
13mm - 6k
12mm - 7k
11mm - 8k
10mm - 9k
9mm - 10k

Did I get that kinda ballpark right in terms of when you would want to check and transfer from Hole #1 to Hole #2 of the Versy CCT?

Said another way, this guideline might apply if someone is considering buying a Versy CCT.  If you are at 15mm+, buy it now and plug it in Hole #2 (and compress your long spring).  If you are under 15mm (sorry guys), you might get away with kicking the can down the road until your next oil change or 3-4K miles before you buy it.  (Fair assessment?)

Basically, at 19mm+ you are playing with fire and risking rapid unplanned disassembly within the next 3-4K miles.

Since chains stretch the most in their early life, these mileage estimates might be considered safe guidelines since the chain will stretch less later in life and move the plunger less quickly than when the chain was younger.  And if you just do a lot of short stop and go riding, it’ll trash (stretch) the chain sooner than lots of highway riding.

They should make engine side covers from that "high tech aquarium glass" so you can watch your engine work and do inspections without needing to remove the covers.  If you can only see black oil, drain and/or change for better inspection.    ::) ;D

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by verslagen1 on 12/11/23 at 16:00:26


4F736E766B7E694B7A6E771B0 wrote:
Did I get this kinda correct -- If the existing plunger is riding out 15mm+, assemble your new Versy CCT in the 2nd hole on a Versy CCT.  If it's 15mm or less, start in Hole #1 and recheck as follows for possible transfer to Hole #2.  Because nobody likes having their spring compressed too much.

•Recheck Mileage Table (19mm - existing plunger extension mm) x 1,000

••Said another way, this guideline might apply if someone is considering buying a Versy CCT.

•••Basically, at 19mm+ you are playing with fire and risking rapid unplanned disassembly within the next 3-4K miles.


Yes, it's a bad idea to compress the spring more than necessary, and you'll probably need to look at the clutch as well.  So thinking you never want to see it again is a bad idea.
•If you have a verslavy with a pin and slot limiting the max extension, at whatever extension (assuming those were your miles) I would divide extension by miles to determine the next check point to get 19mm extension.
••If you don't have a verslavy, then you shouldn't throw caution to the wind as a failure will take away your wind and leave you walking in the dust.  1,000 miles per mm is a conservative estimate.  Making a guess that you need to check in 2 to 3,000 miles is reasonable, while guessing you have 10 to 20,000 is not.
•••And also, this when the housing gets damaged.  Ovaling begins to occur and you may need to replace the entire assy if you let it go too long.

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by ThumperPaul on 12/11/23 at 17:56:25

Thanks, I think...  I'm trying not to throw caution to the wind...which is why I ask all this.  


Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by verslagen1 on 12/11/23 at 18:57:16

Awe come on!

Throw caution to the wind.

Get a new Verslavy OT!

Title: Re: Verslavy Tensioner Assy
Post by ThumperPaul on 12/12/23 at 05:19:18

Right!  will probably get the cover off this week and see what I have going on in there.  This bike has had several owners and has aftermarket exhaust, handlebars, and a Mikuni VM36 carb.  So there is some chance it has one of your CCT installed.  We’ll see - you might have a shot at some kind of sale!

Any history or guidance on using your CCT as a means for determining if the timing chain needs to be replaced (as opposed to measuring the chain itself).  

For example, if you are already using the 2nd hole on the CCT and it’s extended say 15mm, is it time to get a new chain?  My guess is that the chain would need replacement before you hit 19mm using the 2nd hole.

It seems once you are on the 2nd hole, the CCT could act as a cam chain replacement measuring guide.  Hit 15 or 17mm or whatever mm measurement = replace the chain.  What’s the magic number that equals replace the chain?  Or has this never been correlated?

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