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Message started by Island_Biker on 04/18/07 at 11:47:05

Title: Starter Clutch
Post by Island_Biker on 04/18/07 at 11:47:05

As an update, the engine problem that took me off the road last fall was caused by a broken valve that totally f*&%ed the piston, cylinder and head. I found another engine (most of one anyway) and my brother-in-law and I are working on getting everything back together.

All has gone well so far, but 2 of the things I needed from my old bike are the starter and starter clutch.

Everything fit together nicely, but now this part won't fit:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/JohnU/starter_clutch.jpg

The cog is locked in place on the shaft and won't line up with the idler cog.

According to what I have been told, my old bike was an '86 and the new(er) engine is from a '97. Has something changed through the years that isn't mentioned in the Clymers or are we missing something?

Thanks in advance folks.

Title: Re: Starter Clutch
Post by vroom1776 on 04/18/07 at 12:06:57

2nd post here (http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1098969517) & second post, second page, same thread, also, near end...

Title: Re: Starter Clutch
Post by Island_Biker on 04/18/07 at 13:47:58

Thanks vroom. I searched first and missed that one.

Just for clarification, if I get the 2 small gears, is that it, or do I need a new cover too?

Title: Re: Starter Clutch
Post by vroom1776 on 04/18/07 at 13:58:26

don't know... I was mostly acting as a librarian here...

uh, PM Reelthing. He may know. Also, Kropachek can translate from german...

Title: Re: Starter Clutch
Post by Reelthing on 04/18/07 at 14:10:24

Naw Krop is the pro on this area - I guess he has a europe only year model - 91 or 93 - but here's some comments he made:

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=RubberSideDown;action=display;num=1147187348;start=9#9

so it reads like the old cover will not work with the newer gears and axle without some modification

Title: Re: Starter Clutch
Post by Savage_Rob on 04/18/07 at 14:14:26

There was also some kind of change made to decrease the backlash problem.

Title: Re: Starter Clutch
Post by Island_Biker on 04/18/07 at 14:17:32

Guess I'll need to drop by the stealership to check it out.

I've also put a request on the market place for the parts.
Thanks

Title: Re: Starter Clutch
Post by Greg_650 on 04/18/07 at 15:05:55

Are you putting '86 parts in the '97?

Is this the bad boy part that you are needing?

(forget the timing mark note)
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b277/gmdinusa/TDCTimingMarks_1760.jpg

Title: Re: Starter Clutch
Post by Kropatchek on 04/19/07 at 01:42:22

Island_Biker wrote:

Thanks vroom. I searched first and missed that one.

Just for clarification, if I get the 2 small gears, is that it, or do I need a new cover too?

No other cover needed.
Get the missing parts from the IPC of Ron Ayers for a 1997 engine. The cover is a '97 model so the gears and the limiter as pictured by Greg_650 must be installed.

Title: Re: Starter Clutch
Post by Island_Biker on 04/19/07 at 06:37:58

Thanks again guys. Those are the parts I need.

Yes, the new(er) engine is a 97 that was was missing the starter and these clutch components. The Clymer doesn't show the newer parts.