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Title: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by jimbrough on 11/07/05 at 03:01:02 What do you think is your suzi's biggest enemy out there? Sand on the pavement? (scary stuff) A bit of gravel? Cage drivers with their blinkers on? A particularly tough corner or your own 'joie de vivre' most riders get sometimes when they're feelin' good and goin' fast? What is it? ??? |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by Kropatchek on 11/07/05 at 03:43:48 Oil on the road, especialy in a corner. When it starts raining after a long period of dryness. Greetz Kropatchek >:( |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by threezukes on 11/07/05 at 04:19:39 Sand on the road is pretty scary especially since trucks like to dump it in the middle of a corner. |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by clueless on 11/07/05 at 04:21:18 Biggest enemy? Lack of maintenance, as in oil changes. Small capacity, air cooled engine, it's the only thing between your engine and destruction. Change it often. |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by Conway on 11/07/05 at 04:41:25 Cages... |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by Paladin on 11/07/05 at 05:17:59 Politicians |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by R0B on 11/07/05 at 05:50:36 Gotta go with cages as the immediate threat and politicians for the long-term demons... |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by kikuchiyo on 11/07/05 at 06:38:56 Leaves on the asphalt! |
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Title: Ignorent and careless oRe: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by slavy on 11/07/05 at 07:26:44 Ignorant and careless owners |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by torque on 11/07/05 at 09:26:48 stupid squirrels |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by Richard Amirault on 11/07/05 at 09:32:01 torque wrote:
Speaking of squirrels ... one day last year I was driving to work (in my car) and I noticed a squirrel *walking* across the street. He was actually walking, not hopping (maybe he handn't had his morning coffee yet;-) He finally looked up and saw me, turned around and started to run back to the far side of the street .. and was nailed *flat* by a car coming the other way. Richard in Boston, MA, USA |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by jimbrough on 11/07/05 at 12:26:39 I forgot about dogs - just about had a run-in today with a couple of big german shepherds that came bounding out of a driveway...man! they are scary! If you hit 90 lbs. of dog, you might not make it through the encounter! |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by marty62253 on 11/07/05 at 13:29:52 Cages who think I'm supposed to look like a hood ornament. I don't want to see what color their eyes are in my mirrors. |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by torque on 11/07/05 at 15:40:32 marty62253 wrote:
thats when u start throwing heavy objects over your shoulder ;D.....(batteries,sockets,sh!t like that) |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by jimbrough on 11/07/05 at 15:45:32 You need one of those james bond vehicles; press a button and a million tacks fall out! ;D |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by mornhm on 11/07/05 at 19:53:43 Young women in cages. They are either on the cell phone or just not paying attention. True latest close encounter: I'm going to lunch when I notice the car coming at me has set a direct collision course. When I look at the driver all I can see is the back of her head between the headrests. She's completely turned around doing something in the back seat while driving (mostly) forward at at least 40 mph in town. I just got out of the way. Luckily since she wasn't looking, she didn't see me dodge. ;) No there wasn't a child's seat in the back, so I'm guessing looking in the purse for her cell phone. |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by diesel on 11/07/05 at 21:15:31 here in Pa. DEER! |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by sluggo on 11/08/05 at 00:10:14 diesel wrote:
deer running into motor cycles is punishment for hunters. :o thumpers biggest enemy. why me of course. |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by oatmeal on 11/08/05 at 00:59:00 Nothing ruins my day of riding like having a suicidal elephant land on me after jumping off the top of a building. I hate that. Teenage-20something girls in SUVs with cell phones surgically grafted to their skulls are a close second... and I encounter them quite a bit more frequently too. |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by jimbrough on 11/08/05 at 02:55:39 I don't know if this is really true or just an urban myth. my boss told me yesterday he heard of two guys roaring along on bikes - perfect day, no wind- when a tree beside the road just falls over - it was dead and it was just its time - and it lands right on the road - the one guy ducks under a big branch and gets through - the other guy has his head taken off by the branch! I hear at the funeral there were all kinds of jokes about, "hey - what happened? that tree jump out in front of you?" Anybody heard this before?? |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by R0B on 11/08/05 at 05:58:50 Along with the cagers on cellphones, I'd add to the list women applying their makeup and men shaving whilst driving. I see these all too often and give them wide berth. |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by jimbrough on 11/08/05 at 06:07:00 I've never ever seen men shaving in a car!! That is wild!! Have seen a lady drying her nails out the window so it looks like she wants to make a left turn, though! ??? ??? ??? |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by Ed_L. on 11/08/05 at 06:22:07 Saw some guy using dental floss while driving, ick. The biggest problem around here are the old farts with coke bottle glasses. Don't think that they could see a car coming at them, never mind a savage. At least they drive under the speed limit, I mean way under the speed limit. ;D |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by jimbrough on 11/08/05 at 06:24:14 There's no fart like an old fart!! |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by RadarORiley on 11/08/05 at 07:58:31 I see females putting on makeup all the time, men shaving, but the one that really chaps me is people reading a newspaper or book/map while driving. I've seen this a lot where they actually spread it over the steering wheel while they are driving the Interstate. I love to read, but that's taking it too far. |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by Paladin on 11/08/05 at 09:59:21 jimbrough wrote:
One of our quakes two people were standing beside a wall, holding hands. Chunks of bricks/concrete/whatever fell and killed one without touching the other. When the Fates declare it is your time to go you are gone! |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by R0B on 11/08/05 at 11:18:57 RadarORiley wrote:
I've seen that too and it is scary. |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by WavJamR on 11/11/05 at 22:17:03 1. Cagers (in general) 2. Riding above and beyond your abilities to control the situation. 2 & 4 kinda go together 3. Not paying attention to what's going on around you 4. Drinking and Riding (Booze) 5. Improper maintenance |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by Tony on 11/12/05 at 04:28:11 I have 2. 1)What seems to be my biggest and most often isssue is people who never seem to check their mirrors on a multi lane road (or at turns with seperate turn lanes). Way to many times I have been "pushed" accross the double yellow to avoid an A-Hole moving over without looking. I do my best to avoid being next to a cage but you cant always do it in heavy traffic. 2) Anyone who does not understand what the octoganally shaped signs mean at cross roads. |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by Savage_Rob on 11/12/05 at 10:46:15 Tony wrote:
You mean them purdy red ones? |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by savage777 on 11/12/05 at 13:00:31 Savage's biggest enemy--- Lack of backing by Suzuki and the Dealers. Lack of Suzuki and aftermarket accessories. But that does mean that we do ride something that a lot of other people don't have so that is kinda cool. It just sucks that the few things that are available for the Savage as far as bolt on accessories are so dang expensive because they aren't very common and compared to the same part for another bike will be half as much, such as highway bars, forward controls etc. |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by Conway on 11/12/05 at 17:53:56 Quote:
That's the reason you keep a couple of old spark plugs in your jacket pocket... No court in the land could prove you lobbed them through a windshield... It was simply "road debris"... ;D |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by Kaishaku on 11/12/05 at 22:59:31 I don't know about you, but I'd be pretty concerned if my vehicle started dropping spark plugs on the highway. Besides, if you're both travelling at the same speed, just letting go of the spark plug would cause it to have an initial velocity of zero with regards to your frame of reference. You'd actually have to *throw* it, I imagine, and I can't fathom that being easy to do while still riding. Correct me if I'm wrong though ;D |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by Hammy211 on 11/13/05 at 03:58:37 Hah, that reminds me of when I was a kid. Me and I few of my friend would ride our bicycles around arm with bolt bombs. Two bolt and and a nut with gunpower compressed between. We never actually got to use them to "defend" ourselfs, but they we a blast to set off. As loud or louder than a cherry bomb if you used a big enough bolt. Thing was those big ones were darned expensive. Oh and to me the Savage's biggest enemy is the wobble you get though highspeed corners. I need a superbrace but their to darned expensive too. That and mine uses oil quicker than I am used to having to check for so I'm afraid I may forget to check it sometime and run it while it's low. Another thing that could be an issue in a poorly maintained bike could be the rear drum brake since they never have quite the feel of a disk, and drums have a tendency to lock up sometimes unexpectedly if they arent adjusted quite right. One more, rush hour traffic and you run out of fuel(main supply) Only made that mistake once, and I can switch to researve in about a half second now in case I do it again. |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by Paladin on 11/13/05 at 06:38:36 Hammy211 wrote:
A few days ago Thumper coughed and sputtered in the middle of my acceleration thru the turn into mainstreet traffic. Straighten up, switch to reserve, accelerate to speed without needing any cager to have seen me. 'Tis a good thing I aim for a slightly larger than necessary gap. |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by Mr 650 on 11/14/05 at 06:24:23 A $200 car $2000 wheels No job, no insurance, no high school diploma New cell phone |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by torque on 11/14/05 at 15:55:34 Mr 650 wrote:
whats wrong with custom wheels ??? ??? ??? ??? |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by Mr 650 on 11/14/05 at 17:45:05 In a nut shell, it raises the CG while effectively reducing the braking. What bigger brakes provide, larger diameter wheels take away, while reducing turning circle. |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by torque on 11/15/05 at 06:14:47 Mr 650 wrote:
i have 20 inch by 10 inch rims on my truck,and the truck handles so much better around corners.i have stock brakes and the truck stops quicker than ever(because i have more rubber on the road than a semi ;D) the brakes are only affectted when u have over a 22inch rim.same thing for swamper tires if u go over 38's u should get bigger brakes. thats also why everybody puts on the 190 instead of the stock 180 on the savage .........imo 8) |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by Savage_Rob on 11/15/05 at 06:45:38 torque wrote:
The reason I put the 190 on instead of the 180 was because that was what was available in the tires I wanted and, oddly enough, what the Dunlop fitment guide recommended. I really hadn't given that much thought to the need for differing brake sizes with changing wheel sizes. However, I didn't change the wheel; just the tire. That fact, the minor size difference and the fact that the rear brakes only constitute 30% of the stopping power lead me to believe it's not a problem. |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by mpescatori on 11/15/05 at 08:19:09 oatmeal wrote:
Well, believe it or not, once my wife riding pillion drew my attention to a young mother breast feeding :o :o :o while driving in the slow lane !!! Too bad she wasn't pulled over... Maurizio |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by Mr 650 on 11/15/05 at 11:15:47 What ever rationalization needed to justify drawing more attention, I don't believe a word of it. If taller wheels/tires are swapped on, increased pedal pressure will be required to generate the same amount of braking. Tire rub and stiffer side walls will kill the ride. Turning radius will increase. http://www.scottware.net/scottml2/images/car%20(23).jpg This vehicle won’t stop, or accelerate, turn or corner, or ride. Its CG is too high making it easier to flip. You can see daylight under it. It would be OK if you need to ford a creek I suppose, but this silly junk looks like some inbred redneck’s 4WD nightmare; torque wrote:
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by torque on 11/15/05 at 14:43:48 Mr 650 wrote:
i have a 275 tire height which is a big tire,even with 20's,some people have 20's with 225's thats when u getting a really rough ride.mine is still a work truck so i pull stumps,carry our bikes,ect..... and its a very smooth ride,yes u have slow down for bumps,but curves, no. and yeah it takes a little longer to get going ,but once u do ;D, she freekin flys. also i get better gas mileage because,the transmision is turning less rpm's ;D my truck http://www.bikepics.com/pics/pics/suzuki-savage-95-bikepics-460182.jpg my wheels are aluminium and weigh only 7 pounds more than the stock steel. and my wheels never lockup,they just stop,even with the stock ABS. |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by Jim_R on 11/15/05 at 19:16:10 From my understanding u will only have a rougher ride if ur tire height is less than stock, hence less rubber under the rim. OK back to the topic I think Savage's biggest enemy is RESPECT, from dealers and Suzuki itself. I believe its a great bike and there should be alot more aftermarket support. Maybe there isnt because many owners move onto more powerful bike since the Savage is so under powered. I still like mine tho. |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by FlyingJLady on 11/17/05 at 12:10:21 While driving down the road I seen a truck driver reading his paperback book on the freeway! :o RadarORiley wrote:
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by klx650sm2002 on 11/18/05 at 02:22:05 At this time of year KLX's (and Savage's I presume) worst enemy is road salt. Clive W :D |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by penguinsscareme on 12/01/05 at 16:05:53 Quote:
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by Ed_L. on 12/01/05 at 16:17:29 I saw what had to be the biggest distraction ever for a driver. While stuck in traffic last week I looked over and saw some guy getting a bl-ow job from his girl friend while driving. You know he wasn't paying attention to driving ;D. |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by sluggo on 12/01/05 at 16:31:14 Ed_L. wrote:
then you had to match speeds to watch, and you didnt see the car going slowly ahead of you :o |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by penguinsscareme on 12/01/05 at 19:19:49 Ed_L. wrote:
Sorry, we didn't mean to create a distraction! :o |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by Ed_L. on 12/02/05 at 05:55:29 I admit it, I was watching more than driving :-/ |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by jimbrough on 12/02/05 at 11:17:52 Oh, to be young and to be able to rise to the occasion!! :o |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by Savage_Rob on 12/02/05 at 11:35:21 This is sounding more like the actual enemy to the Savage is the rider's distraction. |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by mikedasavage on 12/02/05 at 14:31:34 i dunno what the biggest enemy is there is alot of things out there to get you. when a cage gets to close to my a$$ i usually like to turn around and look at them straight in the eyes maybe do a head nod (not very safe but effecient ) most people will back off. Slow down not to fast though cus you dont want to get hit check your mirrors when they are that close you can tell if they are looking and if they are slowly slow down piss them off when youve had your fun smoke em unless they got a real fast car they aint catching up. if i'm at light and some gets right on my tail especially if were in a group well just stay at the light a few seconds if it turns green if they honk we'll turn around and look at them they usually get scared. |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by SeeAPierce on 12/02/05 at 15:49:32 For riding: As much as I like the low weight (one of the reasons I bought it) It can feel a bit "light" at higher speeds in the wind. For running: Lean fuel condition For looks: Jet engine sized stock muffler Still the perfect bike for me though! |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by Zniper175 on 12/10/05 at 03:38:35 Teenaged girls on the phone in civics seem to have an affinity for trying to hit me. |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by Ed_L. on 12/10/05 at 15:59:11 Here in Florida the snow birds are coming, nothing like a Q-tip (white shoes, white hair) to strike fear in the heart of all riders. |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by clueless on 12/10/05 at 20:41:48 Ed, We call 'em blue hairs here, driving their land yaghts(probably spelled that one wrong). The have no clue where the other side of the car is. |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by jimbrough on 12/11/05 at 02:54:30 Everytime i see an old guy/gal driving a land yacht at 46 mph here i think i should follow them around till they croak (abouut 7 minutes by the way they drive) and then grab the car from the estate - wouldn't even be broken in! We are living in a small town surrounded by old farms with a big city nearby so we seem to be turning into a retirement community - our real estate prices are still pretty good. Pull up to a red light and you might be the only one under 85 out of six drivers! |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by jrm8486 on 12/11/05 at 18:32:02 Had three teenagers in a SUV at 10:30 last night come through a red light onto a 6 lane highway and almost got me! I was so close I could see the fear in his eyes when I skidded next to him, Then he flips me off! Lets just say he will have to explain to his folks how he got a sz 9 boot shaped dent in his door! |
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Title: Re: Savage's biggest enemy? Post by Kaishaku on 12/11/05 at 23:11:19 Oh, I've been so close to doing some artistic foot-motivated door modification to cars on a few occasions. |
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