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Title: My New Tank Post by lancer on 10/28/05 at 08:50:45 Just wanted to share my new tank with everyone................................well it is the beginning of my eventual new tank. http://images.snapfish.com/3453743923232%7Ffp7%3Enu%3D323%3A%3E639%3E697%3EWSNRCG%3D3232%3C8979793%3Bnu0mrj http://images.snapfish.com/3453743923232%7Ffp63%3Dot%3E232%3B%3D72%3A%3D788%3DXROQDF%3E2323%3B988887%3C5ot1lsi This does not show up very well but this is the style I am going for. It is the traditional BSA Goldstar racing tank. It is available in either polished alumunim or fiberglass, and retails for $450-600. THAT IS WHY I AM TRYING TO DO IT MYSELF! http://www.classic-motorcycle-fiberglass.com/images/goldstar_t.jpg |
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Title: Re: My New Tank Post by Greg_650 on 10/28/05 at 08:55:00 I didn't think that styrofoam worked very well with gasoline ::) What bike is that? A BSA or Montesa? |
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Title: Re: My New Tank Post by Mr 650 on 10/28/05 at 08:55:48 I like it. |
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Title: Re: My New Tank Post by SavagePielk on 10/28/05 at 09:36:15 how are you going to build the tank itself? |
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Title: Re: My New Tank Post by bentwheel on 10/28/05 at 10:19:46 Greg_650 wrote:
It's a BSA Goldstar. |
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Title: Re: My New Tank Post by lancer on 10/28/05 at 10:35:24 There is a company called "Epoxyworks", and I receive an annual booklet from them. Last year they had a little story ing the pub about a motorcycle owner who used their products to made his own tank, seat and fenders. For the tank he took a block of foam and shaped it into his desired tank, then covered it with fiberglass and their epoxy resin. When he had it they way he wanted he drilled out the hole for the filler cap and started pouring in a solvent that disolved the foam...leaving the shell of the tank. He then did the finishing work...attached the hardware and mounted it on his 60's era Ducati. It was really an outstanding work, the bike was beautiful. |
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Title: Re: My New Tank Post by lancer on 10/28/05 at 10:58:57 I found the pic/article from last years booklet... http://images.snapfish.com/345374%3A%3B23232%7Ffp64%3Dot%3E232%3B%3D72%3A%3D788%3DXROQDF%3E2323%3B9896%3B%3A7%3Aot1lsi Pretty nice for a "from scratch" project, eh? |
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Title: Re: My New Tank Post by bentwheel on 10/28/05 at 11:48:06 Hey Lancer, that sounds like a very interesting project. You will probably want a fairly decent thickness before you take the grinder to it. I sense it is going to be a labour of love. Keep us posted on your progress. |
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Title: Re: My New Tank Post by Ed_L. on 10/28/05 at 15:09:34 Wow, looks like a major project. Figure out how much money you think it will take, then double it, figure how much time it will take then triple it. It's always worked for me. Keep us informed on how it is going. Really like that early Duck racer, red is such a nice color. |
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Title: Re: My New Tank Post by vroom1776 on 10/28/05 at 15:49:24 Definitely a cool idea. I hope it works out. How much do you think it will end up costing? |
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Title: Re: My New Tank Post by Trippah on 10/28/05 at 17:07:13 Lancer- now that's an interesting project. Out of curiosity, are you eyeballing the size or do you have measurements of a BSA race tank, or giving it the style but measured for your savage? And of curse/ er course, I wonder what capacity you might end up with. |
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Title: Re: My New Tank Post by jbrough7 on 10/29/05 at 05:28:10 lancer: I'm changing the look of my ls also...moved the seat up and back and really want to change the shape of the tank...there is a blacksmith (!) here in town that will do anything with metal cheap. I'm thinking of asking him to make a sort of a sleeve or pocket that would slip over the tank...would look similar to yours...I just don't want to make permanent changes in case i f--k everything up. Good Luck! |
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Title: Re: My New Tank Post by lancer on 10/29/05 at 08:24:39 I was wondering about the final tank volume, and with the questions you'al are asking I decided to do a little measuring. The foam block is about the size of the original racing tank (from memory...I do not have one on hand to work with), based on the one I had on my Goldstar before. This block is 10.5x12.5x16.5=2165 ci Removal... The tunnel ...400 ci The corners..450 ci Shape left over has about 1315 ci A gallon takes up about 220 ci 1315 divided by 220 = 6 gal Now I like those numbers!!! |
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Title: Re: My New Tank Post by jbrough7 on 10/29/05 at 09:06:13 Now that sounds like a nice number! |
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Title: Re: My New Tank Post by DavidV on 10/29/05 at 10:50:08 That's very cool stuff. Be sure to keep us updated. Maybe you could keep track of the mold dimensions, and make some to sell after you've done the proof-of-concept? |
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Title: Re: My New Tank Post by lancer on 10/29/05 at 22:23:29 This process is a total loss system. The foam, when carved, is an inside mold that is totally disolved after the fiberglass work is done. I am really anxcious to get this going. |
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Title: Re: My New Tank Post by Greg_650 on 10/30/05 at 06:01:32 lancer wrote:
You'll be a pioneer on this project. Hope it works. Good luck. |
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Title: Re: My New Tank Post by klx650sm2002 on 10/30/05 at 08:27:03 Yeah nice one Lancer go for it. I had a 5 gallon aluminium tank on My RD350LC, the way a tuned two stroke goes through fuel it needed it. Clive W :D |
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Title: Re: My New Tank Post by Susan on 10/31/05 at 11:48:25 Can't wait to see how this turns out. It will be a first for sure! |
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Title: Re: My New Tank Post by lancer on 11/04/05 at 18:46:49 Initial rough carving http://images.snapfish.com/3454388323232%7Ffp58%3Dot%3E232%3B%3D72%3A%3D788%3DXROQDF%3E2323%3B%3B6437794ot1lsi http://www.snapfish.com/slideshow/AlbumID=30955736/PictureID=900830180/t_=8407465 |
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Title: Re: My New Tank Post by torque on 11/06/05 at 18:18:00 hows everthing workin out? can it hold gas yet?? :) |
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Title: Re: My New Tank Post by lancer on 11/11/05 at 07:36:46 The next installment .... http://images.snapfish.com/3454953523232%7Ffp64%3Dot%3E232%3B%3D72%3A%3D788%3DXROQDF%3E2323%3B%3C%3B%3C%3A38%3C9ot1lsi http://images.snapfish.com/3454953523232%7Ffp7%3Enu%3D323%3A%3E639%3E697%3EWSNRCG%3D3232%3C%3B%3C%3B%3B2%3A36nu0mrj http://images.snapfish.com/3454953523232%7Ffp334%3Enu%3D323%3A%3E639%3E697%3EWSNRCG%3D3232%3C%3B%3C%3B%3A%3B%3B%3A3nu0mrj http://images.snapfish.com/3454953523232%7Ffp45%3Dot%3E232%3B%3D72%3A%3D788%3DXROQDF%3E2323%3B%3C%3B%3C9%3C%3A%3B6ot1lsi http://[/img] [img] |
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Title: Re: My New Tank Post by working_class_chop on 11/11/05 at 14:32:43 I've got a cb350 chopper with an original Butts Mfng fiberglass tank on it.....pretty cool original part - its about 1/4" thick. Lots o layers |
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Title: Re: My New Tank Post by klx650sm2002 on 11/12/05 at 02:25:22 Hey Lancer, I'm following this thread with interest. Still haven't got a tank for my SR project. Clive W :D |
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Title: Re: My New Tank Post by lancer on 11/12/05 at 07:32:00 Now I need to get a little rasp, I think it will make it easier to do the final shaping prior to getting to the glasswork. You would not believe the mess this has made in the house..my wife has been VERY GOOD about me doing this inside. There are millions of tiny foam grains all over the place.....vacuum.........vacuum..........vacuum..........vacuum..... |
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Title: Re: My New Tank Post by Trippah on 12/19/05 at 20:57:50 Just curious- has the tank project tanked? No biggie- but as I have no experience with this process, I was waiting for an update. In any case, have a great Christmas. Your last post mentioned millions of foam grains- I remember them from model railroading days.You must have a VERY understanding wife. |
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Title: Re: My New Tank Post by lancer on 12/20/05 at 09:49:01 Ah, yes. She is a good wife...tempered by over 30 years of bringing my projects into the house to work on. She likes me near her more than she dislikes the messes I make. There is a point of no return of course, and it is WISDOM TO KNOW WHERE THE LINE IS............................. The tank project is not dead at all, but has been on hold with the extra things that needed to be done for Thanksgiving and Christmas. I have done a little carving on the tank foam and that was done outside this time, and I made that decision because instead of having to spend 30 minutes cleaning up the 100000000000000's of tiny white grains the wind will do it for me out on the deck. I will post the next series of pics after Christmas. Thanks for your interest. MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!!! |
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Title: Re: My New Tank Post by Reelthing on 12/20/05 at 12:01:43 Wisdom or that knot on the head just above the right ear? |
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Title: Re: My New Tank Post by lancer on 12/20/05 at 12:25:17 no pain...no gain |
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Title: Re: My New Tank Post by Aktlingit on 12/20/05 at 13:02:47 Looking at your tank sketch it reminds me of the Honda CB450-500-550-750 tanks that I have been researching to see if they might fit on the stock mounts with minimal re-working. The front mount on the Honda tank measures approx. 3-3.5" close to the stock LS650 mount. The next big measurement challenge looks to be the rear width of the tunnel, the LS650 I believe is around 6.5" and the CB450 tank looks to measure close to this. Does any one have access to the Honda CB tanks to see how close of a fit this might be. At this time I do not have access to tanks to do a trial fitting. Enjoy the holidays. |
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Title: Re: My New Tank Post by lancer on 12/20/05 at 18:42:25 The top of the tank is going to be trimmed down a bit, so it will have a sleeker look to it. |
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