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Message started by kikuchiyo on 09/28/05 at 13:52:59

Title: reflective stuff!?
Post by kikuchiyo on 09/28/05 at 13:52:59

Soon it is going to be getting darker pretty early.
Is any one using reflective gear of any sort (vests, patches, reflectors?!)
I am thinking of putting some reflective tape on the bike.
My bike is black and I would prefer a black reflective tape over the white/yellow ones (but I do not know if they work just as well).


Title: Re: reflective stuff!?
Post by Savage_Rob on 09/28/05 at 14:11:07


kikuchiyo wrote:
Soon it is going to be getting darker pretty early.
Is any one using reflective gear of any sort (vests, patches, reflectors?!)
I am thinking of putting some reflective tape on the bike.
My bike is black and I would prefer a black reflective tape over the white/yellow ones (but I do not know if they work just as well).

I use the black reflective tape and I like it a lot.  I got it from http://www.reflectivelyyours.com/.

Title: Re: reflective stuff!?
Post by babbalou on 09/28/05 at 15:08:29

http://www.streetglo.net/
I got some reflective stuff from the streetglo folks. Yellow flames for my black helmet, black tape for parts of the frame & some white & red for the front & back. The black reflective tape is nearly invisible against a black background but glows a silvery white when light hits it, though the white tape/decal is slightly brighter.

Title: Re: reflective stuff!?
Post by Tony on 09/28/05 at 19:52:01

I use a Joe Rocket Ballistic jacket with a refelective stripe on the front and back. Very comfortable and it has built in "armor" pads.

Title: Re: reflective stuff!?
Post by oatmeal on 09/29/05 at 01:46:31

I'm really new to riding.  I thought it might be a good idea to get something for improving my visibility at night, so I was considering one of those geeky reflective orange vests.  Only I didn't really want to look like a crossing guard.

So this was a good find. (http://www.kneedraggers.com/details/521-ICON05-5)  I can wear it over my normal padded jacket.

Title: Re: reflective stuff!?
Post by Savage_Rob on 09/29/05 at 06:07:00


oatmeal wrote:
I'm really new to riding.  I thought it might be a good idea to get something for improving my visibility at night, so I was considering one of those geeky reflective orange vests.  Only I didn't really want to look like a crossing guard.

So this was a good find. (http://www.kneedraggers.com/details/521-ICON05-5)  I can wear it over my normal padded jacket.


As much as it's possible to say so, that 2005 model is better looking than the new 2006 model, though the 2006 is cheaper and comes in either yellow or orange.

2005 Model
http://store1.yimg.com/I/motostrano_1863_1978123

2006 Model
http://store1.yimg.com/I/motostrano_1862_41060104


Title: Re: reflective stuff!?
Post by Ed_L. on 09/29/05 at 06:09:47

I've been wearing a First Gear mesh jacket with the soft armor. It has reflective strips across the back and on the arms. That vest would help a lot but always remember that the cagers don't look for you, ride like you are invisible to everybody else on the road.

Title: Re: reflective stuff!?
Post by PerrydaSavage on 09/29/05 at 08:59:36

I agree about cagers not seein' ya ... I was cut off by a grey-hair on Sunday past and I had about 250 other Bikes behind me on our local Toys for Tots run.
I kinda like those Icon military-spec reflective vests ... much better looking than a "crossing guard" vest ... besides, I know that cagers don't see us, but every little thing you can do to make yourself more visible is OK if it makes you more comfortable ... a nervous Rider isn't neccessarily safer either ...

Title: Re: reflective stuff!?
Post by torque on 09/29/05 at 09:18:41

this should get the cagers attention!
http://www.flamethrowers.com.au/

Title: Re: reflective stuff!?
Post by vroom1776 on 09/29/05 at 09:42:40


torque wrote:
this should get the cagers attention!
http://www.flamethrowers.com.au/



Well, I know what I'm saving my money for.

Title: Re: reflective stuff!?
Post by Savage_Rob on 09/29/05 at 09:49:01

The main problem with this stuff is that you need to be in their field of view, which often means in front of them (possibly even requiring flashing lights and sirens).  Most of the time I've been cut off it's been from someone to my side or in front of me.  This morning while traveling in the far left lane of a 3-lane, 45 MPH street a cage cut across all the lanes and stopped in front of me so he could make an illegal U-turn at a break in the median.  I had screeching tires and swerved around him with my horn blasting.  He never even looked in my direction.

Title: Re: reflective stuff!?
Post by vroom1776 on 09/29/05 at 10:00:52


Savage_Rob wrote:
The main problem with this stuff is that you need to be in their field of view, which often means in front of them (possibly even requiring flashing lights and sirens).  Most of the time I've been cut off it's been from someone to my side or in front of me.  This morning while traveling in the far left lane of a 3-lane, 45 MPH street a cage cut across all the lanes and stopped in front of me so he could make an illegal U-turn at a break in the median.  I had screeching tires and swerved around him with my horn blasting.  He never even looked in my direction.



Most people are idiots, me included.  You absolutely cannot trust cagers to watch out for you or expect anyone to obey traffic laws or yield whne you have the right of way.  >:( It's your butt, and you have to watch out for it.  I never ever stay in anyone's blind spot, and I won't let anyone stay in mine.  I never tailgait (around town I try for at least 2 car lengths).  I never let anyone tailgate me (pretty rare with my cherry bomb, anyway).  Gotta keep your eyes moving, espescially  looking for people who want to sneak into traffic.  Also very important, esp. in a town with long lights, is to pay attention when stopped at a red light; people love to rear end you here; keep it in first and keep eyes in the back of your head.  I also like to pump my brakes lightly to flash them.  When making a turn at a stop sign or light, I turn around to see if the folks are looking at my hand signals (no blinkers).

Title: Re: reflective stuff!?
Post by torque on 09/29/05 at 11:02:48

i absoulutely hate it when im going 50 in a 45, and from nowhere a SUV is three inches from my back bumper(,when im in my truck i slow down to 15mph just to p!ss'em off, then when they try to pass me i'll speed up so they cant pass me,then when there behind i'll flip em off)but this is just stupid on a motorcycle the suv is way too big to mess around with,i just let them pass and if its dark i'll turn my high beams on so i can see there stupid faces ;D

Title: Re: reflective stuff!?
Post by kikuchiyo on 09/29/05 at 13:34:33

The icon vest is great. However, I almost always got a backpack on, so the vest will not increase visibility from bihind. Any backpacks with large reflective areas?

Title: Re: reflective stuff!?
Post by PerrydaSavage on 09/29/05 at 14:34:51

Dress up your backpack with reflective tape! 8)

Title: Re: reflective stuff!?
Post by DavidV on 09/29/05 at 22:09:27

If someone tries to run you over, you must follow them and beat them senseless at your first opportunity.  

They deserve it.  Make them understand.  

Tire irons, blackjacks and a roll of quarters in a gym sock are good persuaders.  Heavy boots work well, too.  Stomping on the hood of a BMW is bound to get a driver's attention.  Ask me how I know...

People need to learn.  Some learn easy, others won't.  Too bad for them.  Do your part.




Title: Re: reflective stuff!?
Post by torque on 09/30/05 at 06:04:40


DavidV wrote:
Tire irons, blackjacks and a roll of quarters in a gym sock are good persuaders.  

once when i was at jim-r house i got to meet his uncle,he is the chairman for http://www.abatesc.com/media/(the rock hill chapter) and he gave me good advice for making cagers stay back,bring a pocket full of dead AA batteries,and when they get to close just throw some over your shoulder ;D


Title: Re: reflective stuff!?
Post by Ed_L. on 09/30/05 at 06:52:23

Instead of tossing batteries over your shoulder I use rusty lug nuts, even if I don't hit the bastard it makes me feel better. ;D

Title: Re: reflective stuff!?
Post by clueless on 09/30/05 at 07:37:06

My summer shirt:

http://www.youdonthaveaclue.com/suzuki/invis.JPG

Title: Re: reflective stuff!?
Post by PerrydaSavage on 09/30/05 at 07:39:34

I've read that some hard-core Bikers carry a "traffic cop" with 'em when they ride ... a ball-pean hammer to dole out "traffic tickets" to offending cagers ... I like that one! 8)

Title: Re: reflective stuff!?
Post by Savage_Rob on 09/30/05 at 08:37:13


kikuchiyo wrote:
The icon vest is great. However, I almost always got a backpack on, so the vest will not increase visibility from bihind. Any backpacks with large reflective areas?

You could always modify your existing gear (clothing, backpack, etc.) using either sew-on or iron-on reflective tape.  It's available at http://www.reflectivelyyours.com/ and I'm sure several other places carry it too.  You might even check your local fabric store.

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