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Message started by Tammi on 09/23/05 at 11:18:33

Title: Seat lift question
Post by Tammi on 09/23/05 at 11:18:33

I have a question about the seat lift mods described in this Tech Corner thread:

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1109035237

I want to eliminate SBS (Sore Butt Syndrome), but I don't want to move any farther forward on my bike.

Does lifting the front of the stock seat as described in that thread push the rider forward?

I'm a tall gal (5' 11"), and I really don't want to be pushed any farther forward toward the handlebars, 'cause my fit on my Savage is tight enough as it is.

Thanks. Tammi

P.S. Hey, Savage_Rob, did you notice that I didn't post this question in the Tech Corner?  ;)

Title: Re: Seat lift question
Post by sluggo on 09/23/05 at 11:39:49

it angles you back to a better seating position.  

honestly, the only real cure to monkee butt is lots of saddle time. others swear by jell seats and the like, but my experience is it's saddle time.  it's the "no pain, no gain theory".   also for long rides i pop a couple of advil, or aleve in a preemptive attack.

Title: Re: Seat lift question
Post by clueless on 09/23/05 at 12:27:29

Yep, It keeps me from sliding closer to the tank. Made a big difference to me.

Jim

Title: Re: Seat lift question
Post by Jim_R on 09/23/05 at 13:45:19

Actually Tammy if u raise the front up on the seat enough it should help ya stay back from the gas tank.  I raised mine with rubber stoppers and it seems to work better than stock.  It helped a little on the fanny but not much. My butt gets numb like after 45 miles insted of 30.

The stock seat is poorly designed in my opinion and maybe replacing it with a pillow gel seat seems to be a growing trend.  $163.00 is alot of money but it could be worth it if you ride your bike long distances.  I would like to get one and maybe a drivers backrest but I am not willing to pay for it.  It seems that a backrest might take the weight off ur rear a little too.

Title: Re: Seat lift question
Post by diesel on 09/23/05 at 22:14:02

seat up 'bout an inch,Pro-Tac drivers back rest, alaskaleather sheepskin, more than tripples the time to monkey butt. just delays it, dosen't cure it, like sluggo says, only time in saddle will do that.

Title: Re: Seat lift question
Post by Greg_650 on 09/24/05 at 07:33:14

As other's have said...."saddle time" is the biggest solution...short of getting a new seat.

The monkey butt comes from the flexible plastic pan on the stock seat.  After a period of time, the seat is compressed and sitting on the frame and all road vibration goes straight thru to the butt.  You can raise the front up, if you want.  It changes the seat angle but does little else since the rear mounts are still on the frame.....and most butt pain is in the tail bone area.

While you are raising the front, pull off the rubber bumper in the middle of the seat...the one that sits against the fender....to me that one is connected directly to the tail bone when you are riding.

Title: Re: Seat lift question
Post by Tammi on 09/26/05 at 08:17:15


Jim_R wrote:
Actually Tammy if u raise the front up on the seat

Who is this "Tammy" you speak of?  ;)

Anyway, thanks everyone for the advice.

I'll be doing the seat mod soon. And maybe I'll not only remove the rubber bumper in the middle of the seat, but I'll put something better (softer, but less compressible) in its place.

Thanks. Tammi

Title: Re: Seat lift question
Post by Tony on 09/26/05 at 15:28:50

Tammi,

I know the feeling when it comes to name spelling. There are people who often put an 'i' at the end of my name. I have been know to verify my gender to make the point (though it does matter who I am with and where I am at the time)

Title: Re: Seat lift question
Post by Savage_Rob on 09/27/05 at 05:28:36


Tammi wrote:
P.S. Hey, Savage_Rob, did you notice that I didn't post this question in the Tech Corner?  ;)

You bet!

Title: Re: Seat lift question
Post by Jim_R on 09/27/05 at 08:15:32

I have been looking for an old seat because I thought it would be kewl to make my own.  Wal-mart has a gel seat cover  for a bicycle that only cost like 13.95 and it is thick.  Maybe if I removed some foam material and replaced it with the gel it would make a difference.

Title: Re: Seat lift question
Post by franchi on 09/27/05 at 10:40:11

lifting the front really helps. the guy I purchased my savage from had moved the rear blinkers to the fender and eliminated the need for the 2"rubber bushing. However I still have the rubber bushings which have a steel sleeve inside them. My plan is to cut them down to 1.5" , and shave them so they fit in the tank grommets. this will be stronger than just a rubber stopper due to the metal sleeves.


Title: Re: Seat lift question
Post by Ed_L. on 09/27/05 at 15:31:16

I didn't use rubber stoppers to raise the front of the seat, instead I used inch long metal spacers and some washers. Worked fine and looks good. It's important to support the middle of the seat so it doesn't sag. I used a 1/2 inch long piece of thick walled fuel line that was tie wrapped to the frame where the seat bumpers hit. The tie wrap goes around the frame and through the piece of fuel line, so far it works great. Oh yeah, the only way to get rid of SBS is to get a lot of riding in and get your butt used to the seat.

Title: Re: Seat lift question
Post by clueless on 09/27/05 at 17:14:22

I did the seat mod too, but then modified the seat itself. I took an electric knife and shaved the hump(for lack of a better name) off the back of the seat. Then I bought some thick, kind of fibrous material, sold in sheets in the craft section. Cut to fit the seat and then recovered with the original seat cover. It was really easy to do, and now it is easier to slide back on the seat. A staple gun is all that is required to recover. I really could stand a bigger bike, but the "fun for the buck" factor keeps me modifying!!

Jim

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