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Message started by caveman on 08/17/05 at 00:36:05

Title: chopper kits
Post by caveman on 08/17/05 at 00:36:05

Hi I have a 1995 LS650 and looking to chop the fornt end for the chopper look can anybody help me with this problem.......caveman

Title: Re: chopper kits
Post by dannimal on 08/17/05 at 01:37:26

I believe there is a company named Seeger Cycle that can help you along with that project. Check out some of the links to this site and you will find the pictures of some of the savage cycles that have it on them!!! ;D

Title: Re: chopper kits
Post by Paladin on 08/17/05 at 05:42:18

http://savage.andruschak.net/thehoghunter.html

The Hog Hunter went with the Seeger kit.

http://savage.andruschak.net/jesse_ray.html

Jesse Ray reworked the front end of the frame.

http://savage.andruschak.net/FTP/extended%20forks.jpg

Title: Re: chopper kits
Post by Savage_Rob on 08/17/05 at 06:49:17

Seeger Cycle LS650 Savage Chopper Kit (http://www.seegercycle.com/cgi-bin/dev/details_bike.cgi?3.2.85)

Title: Re: chopper kits
Post by Reelthing on 08/17/05 at 08:18:31

they're kinda proud of that kit

Title: Re: chopper kits
Post by threezukes on 08/18/05 at 04:06:35

I like the smaller tank.  I always thought that the tank looked too big after chopping my bike.

Title: Re: chopper kits
Post by savage777 on 08/23/05 at 10:11:16

1600.00   SOB thats alot a green for a kit like that

Title: Re: chopper kits
Post by sluggo on 08/23/05 at 14:08:03

i've stayed out of this one as long as i could.  

there is no such thing as a "chopper kit", there are some extended front ends, and that makes them a "custom".  chopping is something you do to a machine, not buy for it.  :o

here's my example of a chopper.  
yes another blattant plug for thumper

http://www.bikepics.com/pics/pics/suzuki-savage-04-bikepics-377266.jpg

Title: Re: chopper kits
Post by vroom1776 on 08/23/05 at 14:59:51


sluggo wrote:


there is no such thing as a "chopper kit", there are some extended front ends, and that makes them a "custom".  chopping is something you do to a machine, not buy for it.  :o


http://www.bikepics.com/pics/pics/suzuki-savage-04-bikepics-377266.jpg



hell yeah.  My buddy said "I bought a chopper."  I said "no you didn't; You don't buy a chopper; you build a chopper."  The dude sold him a chopper, but he didn't buy a chopper!

You rock, sluggo!

Title: Re: chopper kits
Post by Savage_Rob on 08/23/05 at 16:27:04

And all this time I've been thinkin' of that as "Sluggo's Bobber" instead of "Sluggo's Chopper"...

Ruh-roh Raggy!  Another can o' worms!

Title: Re: chopper kits
Post by sluggo on 08/23/05 at 17:20:09


Savage_Rob wrote:
And all this time I've been thinkin' of that as "Sluggo's Bobber" instead of "Sluggo's Chopper"...

Ruh-roh Raggy!  Another can o' worms!



you are correct o' savage one, i chopped it into a bobber.

but then again, someone could buy the extended front end and put it on a machine they are chopping..  

can o' worms is us  ;D



Title: Re: chopper kits
Post by bobo383 on 08/23/05 at 18:08:05

Love the mud on sluggo's bobber.  Take that, chromey-posers!

Title: Re: chopper kits
Post by klx650sm2002 on 08/24/05 at 02:41:48

As I have "chopped" 14lbs off my KLX is it a chopper ?

Clive W  :D

Title: Re: chopper kits
Post by Dynobob on 08/24/05 at 13:22:17


sluggo wrote:
there is no such thing as a "chopper kit", there are some extended front ends, and that makes them a "custom".  chopping is something you do to a machine, not buy for it.

I disagree. When I think of a chopper, I think raked and extended forks, a peanut gas tank, and maybe a rigid frame. All these items can be store bought. While your bike is "chopped", it is a bobber.

This is a chopper (this one defined, or redefined the term):

http://images.gotagift.com/diecast/diecast-motorcycle-model-harley-davidson-ultimate-chopper-1969-easy-rider.jpg

Just for fun, here's how the online dictionaries define "chopper":

Merriam-Webster dictionary:
7 : a customized motorcycle

dictionary.com:
6. Informal. A motorcycle, especially one that is customized.

I guess I'll go for a ride on my chopper  ;) ;D

Title: Re: chopper kits
Post by Savage_Rob on 08/24/05 at 13:36:51

Hmmm, reminiscent of Captain America's ride... but d@mn that seat looks brutal... especially on a rigid frame.

Title: Re: chopper kits
Post by sluggo on 08/24/05 at 13:52:42

that is correct, i chopped into a bobber,  and my point of the discussion.  "I chopped it".  ;D   paulie build's customs for others.

and just because it's in the big book with lots of words in it, doesn't mean it's right.  but the words "your opionion" makes what you think of a chopper correct.  :)

i encourage others to think outside the factory drilled holes, and do some wild and crazy things with the basic platform.  and post the pictures, darn it.  


i guess what we're really talking about is the chromey-posers as was posted.  do you really think someone would ride the "capt america" in the mud, like i do thumper.  and honestly i wouldn't either.

Title: Re: chopper kits
Post by WD on 08/24/05 at 20:15:51

I would, and I have. We built one while prototyping the Panzer (R.I.P.) bikes. You know, the reproduction 48-65 HD Panheads out of Colorado. Handled the Mississippi red slop clay, sorta kinda tolerably.  FWIW, it's just a bike. And a lousy one at that. Handles like a blindfolded drunken pig trying to roller skate on greased ice.

ALL bobbers are choppers. Unfortunately, not all choppers are bobbers. Captain America and related bikes fall in the "caricture" class, along the Jesse Who's El Diablos and the OCC butt jewelry. And my old Savage for that matter.
-WD

Title: Re: chopper kits
Post by shawn_b on 08/24/05 at 22:45:24

OCC butt jewelry LOL ::) WD YOU COME UP WITH THE BEST $HIT


SHAWN

Title: Re: chopper kits
Post by Paladin on 08/25/05 at 03:57:24


Dynobob wrote:
....
Just for fun, here's how the online dictionaries define "chopper":

Merriam-Webster dictionary:
7 : a customized motorcycle

dictionary.com:
6. Informal. A motorcycle, especially one that is customized.....

Dictionaries are authorative on how people use words.  As people are often incorrect in their usage, the dictionary will cite that incorrect usage.  Example:  Dictionary.com defines MUSCLE CAR as "A high-performance automobile, often with flashy, sporty styling. "  This is incorrect and simply reflects the general misuse of the term Muscle Car.  The Defining Muscle Car was the 1964 GTO, which was Pontiac's intermediate bodied Tempest with the 389 cid big block V8.  In the strictest meaning of the term, a muscle car is an american intermediate bodied automobile with a big block V8 -- the GTO, 442, GTX, GTA, RoadRunner, etc..  The Camaro, even with a big block, is a pony car, not a muscle car.  An LTD with a 460 police interceptor is a full size performance car, not a muscle car.

Others have used the term muscle car to refer to vehicles that are not muscle cars for the purpose of cloaking themselves with the muscle car mystique.  Purists sneer at them.

Similarly, the term chopper has a specific meaning to the purist.  Others have called custom bikes choppers in order to cloak themselves with the chopper mystique.  The origin of the term chopper came from post WWII when ex-GIs were riding flathead Harleys to  blow off steam and pent up frustration. They started racing these machines, but were being beat by the Brit bikes because the Brit bikes were lighter. So, being the innovative people that Americans are, they started "chopping" off the unnecessary parts that were not functional.  While a chopper can be customized and can have extended forks, a custom bike is not a chopper nor do entended forks turn an otherwise stock bike into a chopper.  Except for those poor deluded souls who do not know any better.

This only matters if you wish to be correct.  If you want to be a part of the great unwashed uneducated mass you may use the term chopper any way you wish.  You should know, however, such usage will show that you are, in fact, just one of the great unwashed uneducated mass; and your misinformed opinions will be ignored by the small minority that know better.

Title: Re: chopper kits
Post by Savage_Rob on 08/25/05 at 06:46:55

I agree with pretty much all of that with one simple caveat: language evolves.

Title: Re: chopper kits
Post by Paladin on 08/25/05 at 11:30:45

But I don't.    Death is not when you leave the world, but when the world leaves you.

Title: Re: chopper kits
Post by threezukes on 08/26/05 at 04:29:11

If Cpt. America is not a real "chopper" then what should it be called?

Title: Re: chopper kits
Post by Paladin on 08/26/05 at 06:34:14

IMO, if the motorcycle started as stock and has had parts removed / replaced to reduce weight then it is a chopper.  Otherwise it is a custom built to look like a chopper.  A custom chopper as opposed to a true chopper.




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