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Message started by DangMan on 02/20/05 at 11:36:54

Title: Lifting the Seat Front for Comfort
Post by DangMan on 02/20/05 at 11:36:54

Not to be disssing you Savagethumper, i hope u can forgive me ;)
Jon has a realy good tutorial on that mod, i think it looks a bit more well done !
http://www.jonline.org/savage/Tips___How-to_s/Tips___Tricks/zseatsideshot.jpg
http://www.jonline.org/savage/Tips___How-to_s/Tips___Tricks/tips___tricks.htm

and there is quite a few good hints and tips there !

Title: Re: Seat lift
Post by bobo383 on 05/19/05 at 19:08:13

Replaced the faucet washers with #7 stoppers from Lowes, drilled with a 1/4 inch bit to accomodate the 6mm bolts. The white pads are a stick-on furniture foot, about 3/4 inch thick, cut in half to support the middle of the seat. (pardon the GS1000 in the background)http://suzukisavage.com/images/uploaded/savageseatmod.jpg

Title: Re: Seat lift
Post by milesb on 07/02/05 at 11:08:35

Did it today too. I used M6 x 55 bolts and a #7 black stopper drilled with a 1/4 inch hole as another poster suggested. $4.48 in parts and 15 minutes to do it. Have not had it out for a ride yet, but even sitting on the bike there is a noticeable difference.

Next I may attempt to drill the stock muffler baffle.

Miles

Title: Re: Seat lift
Post by loopedguru on 07/15/06 at 15:24:36

Did it today except I used M6 x 60 bolts and a #7 black stopper drilled with a 1/4 inch hole as suggested.

Title: Re: Seat lift
Post by Hashbrown on 09/21/06 at 11:26:48

Just did the seat mod. Works like a charm. used M6 bolts x 50mm and about an inch worth of nylon spacers. very comfortable ride.

Title: Re: Seat lift
Post by GrateFuLDad on 08/02/08 at 16:25:55

thanks seat raise worked great for me..

i used two thick rubber bushings...

i went ahead and recovered m seat also and added some foam and height...

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh184/HappyKyndArt/IMG_0487.jpg?t=1217718977

Title: Re: Seat lift
Post by John_D on 07/30/09 at 01:02:57

79766C707776616F7174737D6B180 wrote:

Those look cool, Working in a metal fabrication shop I may try some stainless steel risers. How easy is it to get the seat off? New to the modifying business, but I'm getting ready to add hwy bars from a different bike too.

One 10mm socket w/extension, one 5mm allen wrench (I think those are the right sizes, going off my slightly flawed memory here :-/), and about 1 minute of time. It's real simple, at least on my '08. One allen head bolt at the rear of the seat, two 10mm bolts on either side about halfway up, then just pick up the rear of the seat; the front has a hook on the bottom of the seat pan that fits under the bracket that will get lifted up. Easy peasy! ;) I was going to have a guy at work mill me up a taller aluminum bracket to replace the stock one, but just heard he got fired. Dangit! >:(
Oh, and here's a pic of my version of the mod, 1" nylon spacers, with longer bolts. Should've gone 2", but still have plans to make up some kinda complete replacement for the bracket.
http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt347/redneck72102/Bike%20Pics/Bike%20Mods/th_IM000237.jpg (http://s626.photobucket.com/albums/tt347/redneck72102/Bike%20Pics/Bike%20Mods/?action=view&current=IM000237.jpg)

Title: Re: Seat lift
Post by JustPassinThru on 08/20/09 at 22:49:58

Anyone tried this with the later S40 one-piece seat?

Title: Re: Seat lift
Post by Boule’tard on 08/20/09 at 23:39:44

Yeah it still works, but you don't want to flex the seat too much. Shim the rubber support points with thicker shims the closer you get to the tank. I like the way the rubber supports have a sort of "tread" on the bottom and those plugs that stick into the seat pan. So I sliced them horizontally, added wooden shims and glued them back together.

Title: Re: Seat lift
Post by John_D on 08/21/09 at 00:08:42

407F797E5A6B797963645E62787F0A0 wrote:

Anyone tried this with the later S40 one-piece seat?

Actually, my post on the previous page was on an '08 S40 with the one piece. And as Boule'tard said, you probably wouldn't want to flex it too much, at least cold, although I suspect that if you can flex it enough without damage, eventually it would conform to that angle. :-/

Title: Re: Seat lift
Post by nodnarbing on 02/06/12 at 09:21:17

Just did this yesterday with the #7 stoppers and the 6x50mm hex heads...WOW what a difference, and it took 3 minutes.

Thanks for this great idea!

Title: Re: Seat lift
Post by eruby on 05/11/14 at 07:32:53

2E232E237F747F4C0 wrote:

I just tried this. #7 stoppers and M6x50 bolts. I can't believe the difference. I didn't think there would be much but for $5.00 I figured I would try. Now what about the supports in the middle? Do I need them? Is everyone using them? Thanks.

Title: Re: Seat lift
Post by Tocsik on 06/02/14 at 15:26:13

405750475C250 wrote:

I just tried this. #7 stoppers and M6x50 bolts. I can't believe the difference. I didn't think there would be much but for $5.00 I figured I would try. Now what about the supports in the middle? Do I need them? Is everyone using them? Thanks.

Same question here. Mine's an '08 and it looks like there's a bunch of other support spots under there you would need to boost up, too, if you lift the front. I saw the earlier post stating it was done on an '08 but it doesn't seem like a great idea to leave the middle of the seat floating in the air.

Title: Re: Lifting the Seat Front for Comfort
Post by pgambr on 06/02/14 at 18:28:57

More than likely when you sit down it will even itself out. I used some rolled up bicycle inner tube on one spot to give it a little support.

Title: Re: Lifting the Seat Front for Comfort
Post by Kris01 on 06/04/14 at 17:59:38

On my '08, I cut up an old rubber bungee strap and used silicone to glue it to the frame. The middle of the seat rests on the straps. The seat is supported in all the right locations.

Title: Re: Lifting the Seat Front for Comfort
Post by wambr on 06/06/14 at 09:57:17

in General, I'm a bit tired to ride hard stock seat and put the other from Harley Davidson soft tail custom. and that's what I did. your opinions guys?
http://cs617726.vk.me/v617726733/bd4f/iEu5due8X3M.jpg
http://cs617726.vk.me/v617726733/bd58/VcbBO44gpPU.jpg
http://cs617726.vk.me/v617726733/bd61/iObl2i2pbdI.jpg
http://cs617726.vk.me/v617726733/bd6a/aO_oCBr7oPY.jpg

Title: Re: Lifting the Seat Front for Comfort
Post by old_rider on 06/08/14 at 21:47:59

Heh....my opinion is not needed.... is your bottom happy?.... then you should be. :)

Title: Re: Lifting the Seat Front for Comfort
Post by wambr on 06/09/14 at 09:52:39

yeah! my bottom talking at human "thanks!" ;D

Title: Re: Lifting the Seat Front for Comfort
Post by Tocsik on 06/10/14 at 20:54:27

I did my seat lift this evening. My local Ace has a section of chromed fasteners, including 1" spacers. I bought 2 of those and 2 M6 X 50 bolts and got it done.
I looked where the rubber bumpers on the outside edges of the seat rest on the frame and added some nylon bumpers I had lying around. I have one on each side for the mid portion and 2 stacked on top of each other toward the front. I'll ride it for a while like that and if the height of the bumpers seems right I'll get some in black and make the situation look a little cleaner.
Does anyone else notice the tank moving a little more now that the seat bracket is lifted?

Here's the chrome spacers:

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k548/Tocsik87/S40/Seatlift_chrome_zps0e390d1c.jpg

And the rear bumpers:

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k548/Tocsik87/S40/seatlift_rearbumper_zpsd8e96593.jpg

And the front bumpers :-/ . I don't like the way look right now but will make it better once I'm satisfied with the height.

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k548/Tocsik87/S40/IMG_20140610_201801910_zps42876b10.jpg

Title: Re: Seat lift
Post by eruby on 07/07/14 at 09:04:56

213631263D440 wrote:

Now what about the supports in the middle? Do I need them? Is everyone using them? Thanks.

OK so many said they didn't use supports after lifting. I decided to look at my local Home Depot for an answer. I came across a door stopper that worked great.
http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/65/f8/f8efa20b-5657-4b2e-9db0-292ffd7a2e26_65.jpg - White Self-Adhesive Doorstops (2-Pack)

I tossed the screw because it has the adhesive backing that sticks to the frame. Can't see the white from under the seat. Here's a link to what I bought: http://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-White-Self-Adhesive-Doorstops-2-Pack-15092/202034024

Title: Re: Lifting the Seat Front for Comfort
Post by Seaweednh on 07/07/14 at 18:53:39

Here is what I used and cut all the supports out of it and have enough for another seat. http://www.ebay.com/itm/181418109636?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I don't have the measurement on the main spacer but I do for the forward spacer and the middle. Used double sided sticky tape for the initial placement' the seat does the rest.

Forward' (2) 5/8"x1"x1"

The middle (2) 1/4"xx1"x2-3/8"

The main spacer needs to be cut a 1/4" deep between the mounting holes the width of the seat tab. I set the table saw blade a 1/4" up and took enough passes to notch the block out. I'll post photos at a later time. This rubber is very easy to work with. Drills and cuts well and I used a belt sander to match the radius of the top metal bracket.

Title: Re: Lifting the Seat Front for Comfort
Post by yetimeister on 07/25/14 at 12:22:21

Great mod. helped my leg room problem a little and also dont feel like im dry humping the gas tank anymore haha. I used rubber grommets stacked up and like everyone else the longer bolts. I plan on getting the number 7 stoppers though because my grommit idea is a little spongy and "loose" feeling. What an improvement though!

Title: Re: Lifting the Seat Front for Comfort
Post by Bob Davis on 05/30/15 at 14:06:46

I just lifted the seat on my 2002. I used some rubber stoppers to raise the front of the seat and cut up some pieces of rubber flooring and glued them to the frame to support the middle of the seat. I haven't driven it enough to see how much difference it'll make but it feels better so far.

http://https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11350570_10204053195200714_3429988126187225711_n.jpg?oh=1ae731517e64b8da043a9d7c99e4a041&oe=56000517

http://https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/11392824_10204053194560698_7085001230077577330_n.jpg?oh=132431642b972a886fd9e82c200a62f1&oe=55ED28C8

http://https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/11392939_10204053194840705_704238214523352417_n.jpg?oh=54c0ce6cbcd50abc3f76353878af1816&oe=5608DB10

http://https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10453474_10204053195400719_7062654025936881057_n.jpg?oh=111901ef38cd0a174a6a1e9b5343f80c&oe=5605276

http://https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10791_10204053195000709_8788472372272417924_n.jpg?oh=9eb84d76fde22c2af43ce09a40f1c4ae&oe=55F84563

Title: Re: Lifting the Seat Front for Comfort
Post by winterwalker on 07/27/16 at 11:02:39

Hey folks, did anyone else have a heck of a time finding the stoppers? Anyway, the #7s I found seem to be pretty thin and tapered... not sure if they're the right ones.

Would anyone be able to give me the general dimensions? Bottom diameter, top diameter, and height? I just want to make sure that I'm working with a known factor and that I'm not going to weaken that point of contact by putting in something that's too tall and too thin.

Thanks!

Title: Re: Lifting the Seat Front for Comfort
Post by youzguyz on 07/27/16 at 11:20:52

657B7C66776065737E797760120 wrote:

Just google #7 Stoppers
Here is a result:
http://www.widgetco.com/7-1-hole-rubber-stoppers-plugs

Stoppers aren't the only way to do this. I have those on one bike.
The other one has long 10mm bolts with a nuts and washers above the gas tank to lift the bracket up higher.

Title: Re: Lifting the Seat Front for Comfort
Post by Tocsik on 07/27/16 at 13:45:38

I found chromed spacers at my local Ace.

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1441568178/8#8

Title: Re: Lifting the Seat Front for Comfort
Post by winterwalker on 07/27/16 at 21:18:13

Thanks folks! So it looks like the first location I went to just had a different idea of what a #7 stopper was. ::)

I stopped by another Lowes after work and found the right piece. You can see the difference between the two types below - hopefully this saves someone the confusion.

http://https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/GN3GIbtcNToWffTBBnqWN96f19MonOo3bSUYRbmp0giPl8SSKPmpkUOeLwfqEZ_ZOWBYDRZXR9Qf7HE5srraKmdq1kZn819sTlyC_nGATrMDM_4-609GnJZlRcPShUM1ykQdqUUciB9XSgufpSpZMZIwC9B2gQhRFhgKybCycQOTcvdG4w0aufHN3fqIuHkCP-JNKxEjxsrGNLymFHd3ghmQkiYNMV21zArkIZA9xUk5pz0Gt_y-h_Z9gaOePibfbK-dhdCQF5fKs4735BctUvqkdmRGzDy4dzm5NT98OYEjKp8XLfZRyjLrBH2bu41PFr2YBsmKYd9H9Rai_MtagJWtt-V4elDw8210tRiiZl2HvwBnpjqLbBwG1QxrYOa5yzJ8N6AkyHGG3qm_L3SuZs5LAbvli1u6QG40fkXciG2t0CbamCh7O8JxP3Rm6_3ybtSgTyPM172eWol2CzWkfRolv0KdkwysTri2OLKTDhv3peV7jklqrQUNCXRG10SFVBvgKhHo4ajMI73IQ1-sAZhPE03UK7FTOsguPoGj-dB0rvfisUtHxltAu2-LyWCzuBf2x_PfLSyDozyhLxrP6fbn8Vz83bCI=s775-no

Title: Re: Lifting the Seat Front for Comfort
Post by buster6315 on 01/25/17 at 17:39:31

I wonder what the most popular solo saddle is for the Savage? I don't plan to ride two-up on mine.

Title: Re: Lifting the Seat Front for Comfort
Post by George Palickar on 04/21/17 at 06:07:56

Just thought I would share my experience .... I used 6x50 bolts and high density cork, about 1 inch worth. Brought the front of the seat up a bit and I could feel the difference. Kind of makes it feel a bit more settled in. I did have a bit if trouble with he tab at the front of the seat. He angle of the bolts puts the seat attachment more towards the rear of the bike, and the seat is a bit too large for the space. To get it to fit right I think I will need to shave 1/4" of the seat tab, and use a bit of foam to support the seat in the middle as it is a bit above the bike frame now. Overall I am happy with the mod.

Also drilled out the seat nuts and put in h cotterless pins. Nice! Makes the seat easier on remove.

Title: Re: Lifting the Seat Front for Comfort
Post by George Palickar on 04/22/17 at 09:22:17

Update... Did not need to shave the seat tab. I put the tank mount on the bottom, the spacers, then the seat mount. Much better, everything lines up perfectly.

Title: Re: Lifting the Seat Front for Comfort
Post by madmikesmech on 06/17/17 at 17:29:38

Was reading this thread and decided on using this method, with the 1" steel spacers from ACE hardware. The tank to seat line is WAY better.
http://https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-hjCn7gZ9rM4/WUVWM-hP_7I/AAAAAAAAPGI/LKG5ZhOjxcoTYq2pceH_DMvemVK4gIiAgCLcBGAs/s200/20170617_064824.jpg
http://https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-gN-rrqdkz9I/WUVWRdG1Q5I/AAAAAAAAPGM/WMT7nj95VOwyBiUn2VSZSVt6vUEAPe5uwCLcBGAs/s200/20170617_064842.jpg
I still have to make up some kind of rubber "filler here, between the frame and the stock rubber bumpers
http://https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pGllB565rWA/WUVWWTValoI/AAAAAAAAPGQ/5m5dz_79Jm8DU8-tCqbGumQgAgir3f0cwCLcBGAs/s200/20170617_064931.jpg

Title: Re: Lifting the Seat Front for Comfort
Post by Beerm8 on 10/04/18 at 10:48:20

made my own 1 and 1/2" spacers by cutting an old rubber mallet I was going to toss into quarters.

Title: Re: Lifting the Seat Front for Comfort
Post by Bokobob on 03/19/20 at 14:59:18

The lead off post in this thread presented the following link as how to see a tutorial on lifting the front of the Savage 650 thumper seat for more riding comfort.

http://www.jonline.org/savage/Tips___How-to_s/Tips___Tricks/tips___tricks.html

I clicked on this link and came up with "nothing there".
anyone have a link to this tutorial? If so, please copy it and reply to this message. Thank you...

Title: Re: Lifting the Seat Front for Comfort
Post by verslagen1 on 03/19/20 at 16:12:56

try...
http://www.jonline.org/savage/Tips___How-to_s/Tips___Tricks/tips___tricks.htm

Title: Re: Lifting the Seat Front for Comfort
Post by Bokobob on 03/20/20 at 09:50:50

Many thanks. The front seat link provided works..

Title: Re: Lifting the Seat Front for Comfort
Post by Wild1OR on 08/21/20 at 22:38:13

795C535A705C533D0 wrote:

Yes, there are excellent tips on the site!

Title: Re: Lifting the Seat Front for Comfort
Post by buster6315 on 02/12/22 at 07:33:38

Has anyone addressed the gap between the raised seat and the frame? Thank you!