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Title: Anyone ever have trouble getting into 1st gear ? Post by Firefighter on 10/29/04 at 13:16:24 I've noticed a few times out on the road, it just happened today too, that after sitting at a stop light in neutral, when I go to put it into 1st gear, it won't go. Doesn't happen all the time, just some times, I can stomp the hell out of it and it still won't. I rolled the bike back and forth a little and then it went into gear. All this while traffic is backing up behind me :-[ Just curious if this happens to anyone else, or is something wrong with the bike, or what? Thanks |
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Title: Re: Anyone ever have trouble getting into 1st gear Post by Savage_Rob on 10/29/04 at 13:26:40 First, I would suggest downshifting to 1st before stopping and leaving it there. It allows you to get out of that spot much more quickly should you need to. If you happen to be stopped in neutral and it doesn't immediately shift into 1st, let the bike move a tad while shifting and it should go. DON"T stomp on it. You will bend the connecting rod in the linkage and it will really quit working on you. Take a look at your linkage and see if that (roughly 6") rod is bent. If so, replace it. It's about a $6 part at BikeBandit, so a spare might even be useful. In a pinch, you could probably straighten it out and slide a piece of steel tubing over it as a temporary fix. |
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Title: Re: Anyone ever have trouble getting into 1st gear Post by Susan on 10/29/04 at 13:54:54 This is a known quirk of the Savage. Three things: 1. From a safety standpoint, you really shouldn't be in neutral at a light -- did you hear about the guy who got run over because he couldn't get his bike in gear fast enough? Having it in gear also allows you to get out of the way quickly if something happens around you. 2. The easiest way to deal with the quirk is to let out the clutch, bring it back in and then the bike should go into gear. It works for me everytime. 3. Stomping is bad. My husband did it to mine when I first got my bike and didn't know how to deal with the quirk. He bent the linkage so we had to replace it... |
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Title: Re: Anyone ever have trouble getting into 1st gear Post by Tony on 10/29/04 at 15:04:21 I experianced the shifting issue at first as well. After taking the MSF Course I learned a couple of things. 1) (as above) You should never be sitting in neutral for emergency excelleration reasons. 2) You lose a lot of points on your driving test if you are not in 1st when completing an "emergency" stop. 3) You should NEVER shift a motorcyle while it is standing still else you will have linkage problems or worse. My personal experiance has showed me that if you very slowly release the clutch without throttle and you apply gentle force to your shift, it will drop quietly into gear. |
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Title: Re: Anyone ever have trouble getting into 1st gear Post by Firefighter on 10/29/04 at 15:39:55 I know your not supposed to be in Neutral at a light or stop, but sometimes we do. I did look at my linkage and it is slightly curved, not a perfect straight piece. Should it be straight? |
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Title: Re: Anyone ever have trouble getting into 1st gear Post by Savage_Rob on 10/29/04 at 15:43:01 Yes. Stomping has bent it. I did that too. |
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Title: Re: Anyone ever have trouble getting into 1st gear Post by Kropatchek on 10/29/04 at 16:19:09 That's the trick: 3) You should NEVER shift a motorcyle while it is standing still else you will have linkage problems or worse. Greetz Kropatchek ;D |
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Title: Re: Anyone ever have trouble getting into 1st gear Post by cphilip on 10/29/04 at 17:03:00 As previously mentioned.... let the clutch out a bit and then right back in and it will go right in. You have to get the plates spinning again. This is NOT just a Savage thing. It's a constant mesh clutch thing... But do get to first for a stop. Stay in first. Safer that way |
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Title: Re: Anyone ever have trouble getting into 1st gear Post by Greg_650 on 10/30/04 at 04:40:58 Looks like everyone covered this one for you. All correct answers. Don't stomp and don't be in neutral at a light. The MSF course will be very specific about this, if you take it. I also have a problem getting it into 6th gear sometimes :o |
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Title: Re: Anyone ever have trouble getting into 1st gear Post by Susan on 10/30/04 at 06:42:56 Greg_650 wrote:
You too?? I thought it was just me! :P :P :P |
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Title: Re: Anyone ever have trouble getting into 1st gear Post by Firefighter on 10/30/04 at 07:06:48 Greg_650 wrote:
I have taken the MSF course. Took it this year. :) Like I said, I know it's not the safest to do, but sometimes we do put it into neutral while at a light . |
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Title: Re: Anyone ever have trouble getting into 1st gear Post by klx650sm2002 on 10/30/04 at 09:38:24 6th me too. Clive W :D |
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Title: Re: Anyone ever have trouble getting into 1st gear Post by gitarzan on 10/30/04 at 18:04:56 I don't neutralize mine much anymore, now that Susan pointed that out several weeks ago. It does make good sense to be ready to react. Sometimes you gotta, you know, to adjust the helmet, to adjust the mirror, to adjust your shorts... |
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Title: Re: Anyone ever have trouble getting into 1st gear Post by Greg_650 on 10/31/04 at 02:40:12 klx650sm2002 wrote:
Your bragging again 8) I saw a KLR 650 at a restaurant yesterday. The bike was from out of state. The bike had hard bags and looked well ridden (used, but not abused). The street knobbies were really worn down too. But what caught my eye was he was sporting an Iron Butt Association license plate holder. Most people do the Iron Butt on sportbikes, cruisers, and tourers, not enduros. That says something. |
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Title: Re: Anyone ever have trouble getting into 1st gear Post by Greg_650 on 10/31/04 at 02:42:29 gitarzan wrote:
Get a Vista Cruise Lock and you can do that while moving too 8) |
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Title: Re: Anyone ever have trouble getting into 1st gear Post by Greg_650 on 10/31/04 at 02:50:29 Susan wrote:
Doesn't it make you feel stupid? Just riding along, listening to the engine wind up in each gear, and shifting...and suddenly no more and the sound is still the same....quick thought, "did anyone notice?"...... By the way, I was out shooting pictures yesterday in the mountains (in the car), when around a corner, coming straight at me was a familiar front profile. Yep, there went another Savage, thumpin' through the hills. |
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Title: Re: Anyone ever have trouble getting into 1st gear Post by klx650sm2002 on 10/31/04 at 04:25:29 Wishing not bragging. Clive W :D |
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Title: Re: Anyone ever have trouble getting into 1st gear Post by Greg_650 on 10/31/04 at 07:11:35 klx650sm2002 wrote:
No 6th? I guess I didn't know ??? |
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Title: Re: Anyone ever have trouble getting into 1st gear Post by Firefighter on 10/31/04 at 11:52:32 What's even harder than 6th... is Reverse!! ;D I can't get into reverse for anything! :P |
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Title: Re: Anyone ever have trouble getting into 1st gear Post by klx650sm2002 on 11/01/04 at 01:28:47 Even though KLX is geared for just over 100mph at the red line I still look for 6th. Clive W :D |
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Title: Re: Anyone ever have trouble getting into 1st gear Post by Greg_650 on 11/01/04 at 03:18:42 Firefighter wrote:
I didn't know the Savage had a reverse. |
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Title: Re: Anyone ever have trouble getting into 1st gear Post by Susan on 11/01/04 at 05:13:19 Greg_650 wrote:
It does though. I think it goes something like "Left. Right. Left." |
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Title: Re: Anyone ever have trouble getting into 1st gear Post by Greg_650 on 11/01/04 at 05:20:46 I bet the Sarg understands that rhythm :D |
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Title: Re: Anyone ever have trouble getting into 1st gear Post by Diane on 11/01/04 at 07:31:58 Firefighter wrote:
2 years ago I got rearended in my car. Totaled it! So I am always in 1st when I stop and watching the rear view mirrors for blind idiots. That said........ sometimes you just gotta give that had a rest, we have some really long signal lights here. That catch going back into first has taught me to watch the lights and get back into 1st before I get the green. Change that linkage as soon as you can. Once it starts to bend theres no going back. I found out the hard way |
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