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Message started by MnSpring on 08/24/25 at 08:24:15

Title: Gimmie - Gimmie !
Post by MnSpring on 08/24/25 at 08:24:15

“… Are There Any State-Funded Social Services Or Assistance Programs Available To Undocumented Immigrants in Arizona?

Yes. The state of Arizona offers certain social services and assistance programs to undocumented immigrants. These include access to emergency medical care, nutrition and food assistance, child care assistance, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), and other social programs. Additionally, as of 2020, Arizona is one of eleven states that allow undocumented immigrants to obtain driver’s licenses. …”


(Which one place it says,
' NO to supplying a ILLEGAL UN DOCUMENTED, with a DL '
          And  another says they do !)

 (WHICH AZ DOES)

So WHY, are USA Citizens, including VETERANS, Living Under Bridges in a cardboard box, and stand at street corners for a few coins.

Can a, ‘...Full Blown Socialist...’, commit on that ?????



Title: Re: Gimmie - Gimmie !
Post by Serowbot on 08/24/25 at 09:29:41

So in your imagined reality where some get assistance and some don't, you would take away existing assistance to those that get it rather than give more to those that need it

How does that help a vet in cardboard box under a bridge?

Better idea... let's give billionaires and corporations more money so they don't have to live in boxes under bridges
Bezos and Zuckerberg worry about this every day :-?

Title: Re: Gimmie - Gimmie !
Post by MnSpring on 08/24/25 at 10:33:32


4B5D4A574F5A574C380 wrote:
"... you would take away existing assistance to those that get it rather than give more to those that need it ..."


I would rather see,
CITIZENS/VETERANS receive assistance.
WHICH the TAX Payers, and Businesses PAY FOR.

Than a ILLEGAL, (from any country),
Who Lies, Steals, Cheats, Sells Drugs/People, and KILLS.


Title: Re: Gimmie - Gimmie !
Post by Serowbot on 08/24/25 at 12:35:21

Admit it, you's rather give nuttin' to nobody
It's  the Christian way

The American way
Trump's way

and don't talk about "charity"
Charity is a fickle and fragile thing, it can come and go
People need more than a handout, they need security and dependability
You can walk a tightrope, but you can't live on one

Title: Re: Gimmie - Gimmie !
Post by thumperclone on 08/24/25 at 14:11:38


I would rather see,
CITIZENS/VETERANS receive assistance.
WHICH the TAX Payers, and Businesses PAY FOR

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such a lout
 you insinuate those programs are not available to them
they are
some vets and other homeless don't want help

why does Minnesota have such high Medicare fraud
don't tell me it's the illegals it's not
it's the HSS providers 


Title: Re: Gimmie - Gimmie !
Post by MnSpring on 08/24/25 at 15:53:57


3529342C312433222D2E2F24410 wrote:
"... why does Minnesota have such high Medicare fraud..."


Didn't, until, TIMMY TAMPON, took over !!!!!

Title: Re: Gimmie - Gimmie !
Post by WebsterMark on 08/25/25 at 05:06:00

Why is government the entity primarily responsible for this? Why not churches and private organizations?

Title: Re: Gimmie - Gimmie !
Post by WebsterMark on 08/25/25 at 05:06:59


3E283F223A2F22394D0 wrote:
So in your imagined reality where some get assistance and some don't, you would take away existing assistance to those that get it rather than give more to those that need it

How does that help a vet in cardboard box under a bridge?

Better idea... let's give billionaires and corporations more money so they don't have to live in boxes under bridges
Bezos and Zuckerberg worry about this every day :-?


Which is worse? Doing nothing or overdoing it? It’s not a simple answer.

Title: Re: Gimmie - Gimmie !
Post by JOG on 08/25/25 at 05:12:15

If the money is spent on illegals,, see, five star hotels, then the money is not there for oir veterans. If we have any homeless veterans, we have No money for illegal aliens.
Actually, we have No Money for illegal aliens, regardless.
How many of you would take money out of your pocket and give it to someone who broke into your house?

Title: Re: Gimmie - Gimmie !
Post by thumperclone on 08/25/25 at 05:48:27


63407D5E5C4740492E0 wrote:
[quote author=3529342C312433222D2E2F24410 link=1756049055/0#4 date=1756069898]"... why does Minnesota have such high Medicare fraud..."


Didn't, until, TIMMY TAMPON, took over !!!!!
[/quote]


nice try
the program is administered by private eneties

Title: Re: Gimmie - Gimmie !
Post by Needles on 08/25/25 at 06:11:34

Arizona, the state, has realized that it's actually less costly to provide some minimal assistance to undocumented migrants than it is to just ignore them. That is Arizona's money. Veterans theoretically get support from the federal government, not Arizona's money. The simple fact is that the VA, according to the law, SHOULD BE the ideal healthcare and support system. EVERY GOP representative has voted to cut the VA's budget to the point that it cannot fulfill its purpose. Don't try to deny it. Homeless Vets are the fault of the GOP. Once again, MAGATs are comparing apples to brussels sprouts...


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Title: Re: Gimmie - Gimmie !
Post by JOG on 08/25/25 at 07:33:16

That was the most cogent thing I've seen from you until

Homeless Vets are the fault of the GOP. Once again, MAGATs are comparing apples to brussels sprouts...
Bullschitt

Title: Re: Gimmie - Gimmie !
Post by Eegore on 08/25/25 at 07:35:47


Arizona, the state, has realized that it's actually less costly to provide some minimal assistance to undocumented migrants than it is to just ignore them. That is Arizona's money. Veterans theoretically get support from the federal government, not Arizona's money. The simple fact is that the VA, according to the law, SHOULD BE the ideal healthcare and support system. EVERY GOP representative has voted to cut the VA's budget to the point that it cannot fulfill its purpose. Don't try to deny it. Homeless Vets are the fault of the GOP. Once again, MAGATs are comparing apples to brussels sprouts...

 
 Agreed.  AZ defers to the VA for Veteran benefits.  But it's easy to pull the homeless Vet card so I see why it's pretty much always used to make the State waste of taxpayers argument.  I mean who's gonna say Vets should be homeless?

Title: Re: Gimmie - Gimmie !
Post by MnSpring on 08/25/25 at 07:39:26


2A362B332E3B2C3D3231303B5E0 wrote:
"... why does Minnesota have such high Medicare fraud..."


Didn't, until, TIMMY TAMPON, took over !!!!!

Who changed all
sorts of 'Private  Entities. '.
To ULTRA  LIBERAL !
And CONTINUES to Stuff his OWN Pockets !

Timmy Tampon has a core of UL Socialists in Mpls/St Paul, Duluth, Rochester Area.

The rest of the state are just, "Rocks and Cows".  

Just do the research, and you will find out how CROOKED he is.

And it all started when Wellstones Kids got the big settlement and started their 'school'.  How to win a election being a Socialist'.

"... In the Democratic Party’s reckoning following the election of Donald Trump, an unlikely feud has erupted inside an organization at the heart of the progressive movement.

Earlier this year, the board of directors of Wellstone Action — an influential training group formed after Paul Wellstone’s death (Which Timmy took Twice, and the LG was a TEACHER of it for 10 years)
dumbfounded Minnesota Democrats when it voted the late senator’s sons off the governing board.

The ouster came after the sons, Mark and David Wellstone, raised concerns about overspending in areas of the organization’s budget — and after a dispute over the direction and priorities of the group.

Still simmering three months after the brothers’ departure, the rift at Wellstone Action offers an unusually raw glimpse of a larger debate playing out among Democrats nationally as the party ramps up for the 2018 midterm elections and beyond: how to win back white, rural voters who went for Trump in 2016, while also courting an increasingly diverse electorate.

The issue stands center stage in Minnesota, where Trump’s steamroller performance in rural America led to a near-disaster for the Democratic Party in 2016. Republicans took control of the state Legislature, while Trump came within 1.5 percentage points of carrying the state — a feat no Republican has managed since Richard Nixon in 1972.

“It’s certainly something to be concerned about,” said Rep. Keith Ellison, a Minnesota Democrat and deputy chairman of the Democratic National Committee. While Ellison said he has “faith in everybody involved, and I’m sure they’ll work it out,” he cautioned, “Wellstone Action has trained a tremendous number of people very effectively, and there’s a whole lot of people in office today because they got trained by Wellstone Action. A major change in either their branding or the way they do business clearly raises important questions about what’s going to happen next.”

Founded after Wellstone’s death in a plane crash in 2002, Wellstone Action has trained thousands of progressive candidates, campaign operatives and community organizers throughout the country, with alumni serving in local and state offices and in the U.S. House. In 2016, the last year for which tax filings are available, the group reported providing training to 2,135 data and digital strategists, 723 nonprofit leaders and community organizers, and 854 aspiring political leaders.

David Wellstone and other Democrats close to his father began objecting last year to what David Wellstone described as Wellstone Action’s abandonment of disaffected Democrats in the rural Midwest — the rural poor were an early focus of the late senator — with an increasingly narrow focus on gender politics and people of color.  [/i][/b]


Title: Re: Gimmie - Gimmie !
Post by Needles on 08/27/25 at 07:15:40

Why is that different from the billionaire MAGAT PACs that have also taken over ALL college economics courses in the US and ONLY teach Reaganomics, a failed form of Capitalism? Or the propaganda they spew, including the stuff BrokenSpring  just posted? Y'all tend to freak out when someone points out a POSSIBLE wrongdoing by Dems, while ignoring REAL loss of rights illegally instituted by insane MAGATs.



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Title: Re: Gimmie - Gimmie !
Post by MnSpring on 08/27/25 at 08:30:17

Serowbot Said:
“… let's give billionaires and corporations more money…”

Needles Said:
“… billionaire MAGAT…”

Sure does look like tremendous,  
   ENVY,  and  JEALOUSY !

But Hey !!!
No Crime.
One can be as enviousness as they want about other peoples success !!!



Title: Re: Gimmie - Gimmie !
Post by Needles on 09/01/25 at 14:22:25

I don't want their money. I want them to stop using it to take things that were never for sale. Women's health, women's rights, voters' rights, minority advancement programs, living wages, respect for science, democracy--- those are all things MAGATs could not have taken away with their 6th grade ejikashun without the manipulation and funding of billionaires. And MAGATs don't even care that they were and are being used.

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Title: Re: Gimmie - Gimmie !
Post by JOG on 09/02/25 at 05:54:07


4D6666676F6670030 wrote:
I don't want their money. I want them to stop using it to take things that were never for sale. Women's health, women's rights, voters' rights, minority advancement programs, living wages, respect for science, democracy--- those are all things MAGATs could not have taken away with their 6th grade ejikashun without the manipulation and funding of billionaires. And MAGATs don't even care that they were and are being used.

>:( >:( >:( >:( >:(


Nobody is taking Women's HEALTH or RIGHTS, be specific ,explain what you are saying
Minority Advancement? What is that? Are you crying about Not handing an opportunity to someone ahead of someone Else who has Earned the opportunity through performance? You act like we are somehow supposed to know what you mean by a thin line of words, with no depth. Explain what you are saying.
What Voters RIGHTS are being taken?

Title: Re: Gimmie - Gimmie !
Post by Needles on 09/02/25 at 14:57:19

Let's see, the Roe vs Wade reversal allowed the MAGATs to severely cut women's health, with some moronic states making abortion a murder charge, which caused docs to refuse to accept difficult births, putting the mothers AND the fetuses at risk. They even charge the mothers if they try to get the care they need from anywhere else. Look up Texas, Tennessee, Alabama--- most any red state.
Then there's the closing of HUNDREDS of voting places, also in red states, in Democratic majority areas. Limiting access is taking away voters' rights. 47's removal of DEI lets the racists hire non-brown people, even if the brown person is MORE qualified. If you don't think the US OWES those people for hundreds of years of oppression and exploitation, you're just wrong. I have an English degree. If you don't understand what I'm saying, get a Dictionary.


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Title: Re: Gimmie - Gimmie !
Post by JOG on 09/03/25 at 13:39:11

Just because YOU believe abortion isn't murder doesn't make it so. You believe the constitution grants the Right to abortion, that doesn't make it so.

Title: Re: Gimmie - Gimmie !
Post by Needles on 09/04/25 at 07:48:08

Your religious beliefs make you blind. They are just that: beliefs. Backed by "faith" which is defined as belief without proof. You're trying to live like a 2000 year old cartoon hero.


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