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Message started by Serowbot on 08/17/25 at 11:09:47

Title: Art of the Deal
Post by Serowbot on 08/17/25 at 11:09:47

No agreement, no ceasefire, nuttin'
Plus Trump taco's for the fourth time on Russian sanctions
Let's push those sanctions down the road while people die daily in Ukraine

Putin now wants all of the Ukraine
Is this "The Art of The Deal"?

MAGA

Title: Re: Art of the Deal
Post by MnSpring on 08/17/25 at 11:19:33

4157405D45505D46320 wrote:

"... Putin now wants all of the Ukraine ..."

WOW !!!!!

You got into that summit, and were able to hear and understand every word said !

Just WOW

Title: Re: Art of the Deal
Post by Eegore on 08/17/25 at 12:10:08

Putin now wants all of the Ukraine
Is this "The Art of The Deal"?

Do you have a reference for this?

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/outline-emerges-putins-offer-end-his-war-ukraine-2025-08-17/

Title: Re: Art of the Deal
Post by Serowbot on 08/17/25 at 12:59:54

Putin confirms he wants all of Ukraine, as Europe steps up military aid
https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2025/6/27/putin-confirms-he-wants-all-of-ukraine-as-europe-steps-up-military-aid

Ukraine’s European allies pledged increased levels of military aid to Ukraine this year, making up for a United States aid freeze, as Russian President Vladimir Putin reaffirmed his ambition to absorb all of Ukraine into the Russian Federation.

I find Aljazeera to be a fairly reliable source

Title: Re: Art of the Deal
Post by Eegore on 08/17/25 at 15:04:24

I find Aljazeera to be a fairly reliable source

Ok but why use information pre-Trump meeting as evidence of a Trump meeting outcome? I know time and space as we know it doesn't apply to this forum, but even for you?

Title: Re: Art of the Deal
Post by Serowbot on 08/17/25 at 15:47:24

I didn't realize the link was pre meeting, it just popped up when I Googled, but I was under the impression negotiations were about the Donbas and Crimea territories
To want the whole of Ukraine leaves no wiggle room on the negotiations

Why should Zelensky agree to anything if the option is nothing?

Trump needs to drop the TACO and make some impactful changes or this goes nowhere
What does Putin have over him?

Title: Re: Art of the Deal
Post by Eegore on 08/17/25 at 16:36:49

Why should Zelensky agree to anything if the option is nothing?

He shouldn't. That is most likely why the proposal is the eastern slope.

Trump needs to drop the TACO and make some impactful changes or this goes nowhere
What does Putin have over him?

No idea but I'd rather do this than shovel money at a problem that will never end unless Ukraine is defeated.