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Title: Number one out of ten Post by WebsterMark on 06/02/25 at 05:09:27 This is one reason why I voted for Trump. No one else would stand up. https://jonathanturley.org/2025/06/02/marco-rubio-declares-war-on-the-global-censors/#more-232273 |
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Title: Re: Number one out of ten Post by Eegore on 06/02/25 at 05:54:35 The only problem I have is a lot of articles/arguments are acting like the DSA is enforceable in the US. It's not. It is enforceable to companies outside Europe, but only if the product is used in Europe - and does not require the restrictions be used anywhere else. China greatly restricts internet activity. Is that also censoring American speech? This of course does not mean US companies can't choose to employ European restrictions on that Company's private property that we as US citizens choose to use. So from an EU standpoint, they see it as the US infringing on their rights and governance. For instance if the DSA restricts dark patterns that has caused billions, yes billions, of children to be taken advantage of though interface design - and a parent in the EU wants this protection - why should US based platforms be allowed to use dark patterns in the EU? From their point of view they don't need American laws over there. |
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Title: Re: Number one out of ten Post by thumperclone on 06/02/25 at 06:44:27 so, it's okay for the current administration to censor us like it's doing |
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Title: Re: Number one out of ten Post by Serowbot on 06/02/25 at 07:24:57 So you're a man of principles... Free speech is your issue Trump has deported protestors He's forcing teachers to teach MAGA altered history He's blocking the sharing of scientific information You must be outraged :-? |
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Title: Re: Number one out of ten Post by JOG on 06/02/25 at 07:25:37 6C706D75687D6A7B7477767D180 wrote:
Examples? |
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Title: Re: Number one out of ten Post by WebsterMark on 06/02/25 at 07:36:05 5244534E56434E55210 wrote:
He is not….STHU… |
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Title: Re: Number one out of ten Post by thumperclone on 06/02/25 at 08:15:02 4E7B68706B6C687B6D090 wrote:
Examples?[/quote] see Serow's post plus: suing media outlets harassing judges that rule against his illegal policies prosecutors and FBI agents that investigate his actions anyone that disagrees with him btw Russia did interfere in the 2016 elections if it didn't, he wouldn't be trying to prosecute those that proved it |
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Title: Re: Number one out of ten Post by Serowbot on 06/02/25 at 08:19:56 665453424554437C50435A310 wrote:
You're so funny ;D |
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Title: Re: Number one out of ten Post by MnSpring on 06/02/25 at 10:46:55 667A677F627760717E7D7C77120 wrote:
It is OK for a UL, DFI, WOKE, FDS Socialist to: "...A man with a makeshift flamethrower yelled “Free Palestine” and hurled an incendiary device into a group that had assembled to raise attention for Israeli hostages ..." Just ask any UL, DFI, WOKE, FDS Socialist ! |
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Title: Re: Number one out of ten Post by Serowbot on 06/02/25 at 10:56:36 695B5C4D4A5B4C735F4C553E0 wrote:
I've seen you do this a dozen times When you can't defend it, you deny it These stories, and the lawsuits that follow are reported every day So is Trump's losing those lawsuits He's lost over 900 lawsuits this year MAGA I can predict your reply No he didn't |
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Title: Re: Number one out of ten Post by MnSpring on 06/02/25 at 11:19:36 6F796E736B7E73681C0 wrote:
And again the, "REST OF THE STORY" is not being told. (But that is just par for the course, for the UL, FDS, WOKE DFI Socialists) |
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Title: Re: Number one out of ten Post by Eegore on 06/02/25 at 11:45:10 It is OK for a UL, DFI, WOKE, FDS Socialist to: "...A man with a makeshift flamethrower yelled “Free Palestine” and hurled an incendiary device into a group that had assembled to raise attention for Israeli hostages ..." Just ask any UL, DFI, WOKE, FDS Socialist ! Who said it was OK? Or were they censored by Trump and that's why we don't see it? |
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Title: Re: Number one out of ten Post by WebsterMark on 06/02/25 at 11:53:04 3A2C3B263E2B263D490 wrote:
No idea about lawsuits you’re talking about and I don’t really care. Trump has deported protestors- who are you referring to? and how can you deport someone to a country they don’t belong to? He's forcing teachers to teach MAGA altered history - what history and how is he forcing them? He's blocking the sharing of scientific information- how is he blocking scientific information? |
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Title: Re: Number one out of ten Post by MnSpring on 06/02/25 at 11:57:27 09292B233E294C0 wrote:
Ask Bot, not me. |
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Title: Re: Number one out of ten Post by Serowbot on 06/02/25 at 12:08:19 [quote author=112324353223340B27342D460 link=1748866167/0#12 date=1748890384] No idea about lawsuits you’re talking about and I don’t really care. Trump has deported protestors- who are you referring to? and how can you deport someone to a country they don’t belong to? He's forcing teachers to teach MAGA altered history - what history and how is he forcing them? He's blocking the sharing of scientific information- how is he blocking scientific information?[/quote] Try reading Google those topics I'm not going to spoon feed you facts just so you can deny them all over again Just like I said... if you can't defend Trump, you'll deny the facts |
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Title: Re: Number one out of ten Post by thumperclone on 06/02/25 at 12:14:33 It is OK for a UL, DFI, WOKE, FDS Socialist to: "...A man with a makeshift flamethrower yelled “Free Palestine” and hurled an incendiary device into a group that had assembled to raise attention for Israeli hostages ..." Just ask any UL, DFI, WOKE, FDS Socialist ! why is fox news pushing for him not to be charged with terror crimes? |
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Title: Re: Number one out of ten Post by WebsterMark on 06/02/25 at 12:50:46 6D7B6C71697C716A1E0 wrote:
Try reading Google those topics I'm not going to spoon feed you facts just so you can deny them all over again Just like I said... if you can't defend Trump, you'll deny the facts[/quote] So you’re just repeating talking points? You have nothing specific. And don’t say I don’t respond to specific points because I do. Remember, I’m the one who repeatedly says Trump’s faults. I don’t deny them. Answer one, what protester did he deport, what and how is he forcing teachers to teach or what and how is he blocking scientific information. I’ll answer you on each point you list. (Like I always do) |
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Title: Re: Number one out of ten Post by Serowbot on 06/02/25 at 13:03:28 These students protested the Gaza war. Trump's deportation threat didn't silence them https://www.npr.org/2025/05/21/nx-s1-5400644/these-students-protested-the-gaza-war-trumps-deportation-threat-didnt-silence-them Donald Trump's Mass Deportation Policy Has 'Overwhelmed and Stressed' Students https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-mass-deportation-students-1991675 http://https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-760w,f_auto,q_auto:best/rockcms/2025-03/250327-Rumeysa-Ozturk-arrest-mn-0900-2e9d15.jpg http://https://kubrick.htvapps.com/htv-prod-media.s3.amazonaws.com/images/rumeysa-ozturk-arrest-67e4709279c60.png?resize=660: |
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Title: Re: Number one out of ten Post by WebsterMark on 06/02/25 at 18:31:43 Ok, so again, who did Trump deport for just protesting, of which peaceably assembling is protected speech of course. |
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Title: Re: Number one out of ten Post by JOG on 06/03/25 at 03:42:45 http://https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f924e7842fcbe2d94dfb76ef6c2f507dfc6609b9fd67142570469acdd6e7b1e1.jpg |
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Title: Re: Number one out of ten Post by thumperclone on 06/03/25 at 05:30:32 7E4B58405B5C584B5D390 wrote:
misleading the policy deals with a select group of undocumented FELONS |
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Title: Re: Number one out of ten Post by Eegore on 06/03/25 at 07:34:17 misleading the policy deals with a select group of undocumented FELONS They don't need to be FELONS. The language in the law can be confusing because it is very similar. As in the expedited process vs expedited removal. Doesn't matter though because social media pictures mean more than decades of actual process. We are supposed to just cherry-pick the words we want to be true and not Observe the rest. https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/illegal_immigration_reform_and_immigration_responsibility_act https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/expedited-removal |
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Title: Re: Number one out of ten Post by WebsterMark on 06/03/25 at 10:25:17 5640574A52474A51250 wrote:
I saw this in Manhattan contrarian today and was wondering if one of these people were the protesters you were referring to? Yesterday in Boulder, Colorado, a perpetrator sprayed a flammable liquid on a group of mostly elderly Jews protesting the continued holding of hostages in Gaza. Then he threw Molotov cocktails to set several of the demonstrators on fire. The New York Post reports here that 8 were injured, ranging in age from 52 to 88 years old. Police arrested a man named named Mohamed Sabry Soliman, who was caught on video committing the acts. Oh, and also shouting slogans, including “They are killers! How many children you killed?” and “End Zionists.” It quickly emerged that Soliman was an Egyptian illegally in the country. He had originally entered legally in 2022 on a tourist visa, but then overstayed. In 2023 he was granted a permit to work in the U.S. by the Biden administration. That expired in March 2025, after which he stayed on illegally. Which raises the question, why was Soliman in the country in the first place, or granted permission to stay and work, or not thrown out when the permission expired? Whatever you might think about the illegal immigration situation, why on earth do we welcome into the country people who hate us? Did anybody vet this guy, even a little? Add Soliman to a long list of Middle Easterners in the U.S. at the grace of the government who make no secret of their hatred of the U.S. and of Israel. And who are only too happy to lead groups in acts of trespass, vandalism, and violence. To refresh you on some of the names and roles, here is a May 15 piece from Al-Jazeera with a brief list of some of the most prominent: Mohsen Mahdawi, Rumeysa Ozturk, Mahmoud Khalil and Badar Khan Suri are among the students targeted by US President Donald Trump. These four are all student leaders of pro-Hamas, anti-Israel, and pro-BDS movements at elite university campuses — Mahdawi and Khalil at Columbia, Ozturk at Tufts, and Suri at Georgetown. Consider Khalil. Al-Jazeera identifies him as the “lead negotiator” for the group called Columbia University Apartheid Divest. Isn’t “lead negotiator” the same thing as head of the group? Looking around, I can’t find the name of anyone else owning up to being the leader of this group, and it looks to me like calling himself “lead negotiator” is a thinly-veiled way to preserve some kind of argument that he can avoid responsibility for acts of violence and vandalism carried out by the group. What has CUAD been up to this past year or so? Read articles about the mayhem at Columbia since the October 7, 2023 Hamas massacres, and you find CUAD intimately involved in all of it. For example, there was the statement put out by CUAD on the one-year anniversary of the massacre, as reported in the New York Times of October 9, 2024: “We support liberation by any means necessary, including armed resistance,” the group, Columbia University Apartheid Divest . . . . The group marked the anniversary of the Oct. 7 attack on Israel by distributing a newspaper with a headline that used Hamas’s name for it: “One Year Since Al-Aqsa Flood, Revolution Until Victory,” it read, over a picture of Hamas fighters breaching the security fence to Israel. And the group posted an essay calling the attack a “moral, military and political victory” and quoting Ismail Haniyeh, the assassinated former political leader of Hamas. In January 2025, as reported here in the Columbia Spectator, a Columbia building called Kravis Hall, housing the business school, was vandalized by protesters pouring a cement-like substance down multiple toilets all over the building. Somebody just happened to record an anonymous video of the vandalism, which then got posted on the Instagram accounts of CUAD and another group called New York City resists. Text accompanying the Instagram post described the vandalism as some kind of righteous response to actions of the Israeli military in Gaza. Or, just a few weeks ago, in early May, protesters occupied Columbia’s main library in the middle of exam time. Here is a May 8 report in Time Magazine. Excerpt: A Substack post that appeared to be from Columbia University Apartheid Divest, a coalition of student groups supporting the Palestinian cause, said the protesters “renamed” the library the “Basel Al-Araj Popular University” after a Palestinian activist and writer who died in 2017. “The flood shows that as long as Columbia funds and profits from imperialist violence, the people will continue to disrupt Columbia’s profits and legitimacy,” the Substack post added, also reiterating calls for the University to divest from companies with business links to Israel. Time reports that several Columbia public safety officers were injured attempting to restore order. These are just examples of numerous disruptive and violent activities at Columbia in which CUAD appears to be intimately involved. According to the Al-Jazeera piece, Mr. Khalil was granted a green card at some point. I can’t imagine why. Now that the Trump administration is seeking to revoke that and deport Mr. Khalil, his attorneys are spinning the situation as an issue of “free speech.” I disagree. American citizens are completely entitled to express views that are anti-Israel, anti-semitic, and pro-Hamas (short of the First Amendment limit, which is something like immediate incitement to violence). They are entitled to hate the United States, and to say so. But there is no reason that we must be required to invite foreigners and aliens who express such views into the United States. The individuals listed in the Al-Jazeera article are people who are here on visas, and who have expressed their hatred of the United States, and whom the Trump administration now wants to deport. Multiple judges have stayed the deportations, at least until the cases are fully heard. Ultimately, I don’t think this is a close issue. The United States is under no obligation to welcome into the country people who hate us. It is high time that applicants for visas of any type get thoroughly vetted for anti-U.S. views. |
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Title: Re: Number one out of ten Post by MnSpring on 06/03/25 at 16:07:00 2707050D1007620 wrote:
Explain the difference. |
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Title: Re: Number one out of ten Post by Eegore on 06/03/25 at 16:24:39 Explain the difference. I provided some references with all of it outlined. You must not have Observed them. Here's a simple Google result. https://www.google.com/search?q=expedited+process+vs+expedited+removal&sca_esv=b42e03ff43b61ad3&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS1162US1163&ei=CIQ_aMasNKan0PEP2YbnkAg&ved=0ahUKEwjG0MDjstaNAxWmEzQIHVnDGYIQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=expedited+process+vs+expedited+removal&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiJmV4cGVkaXRlZCBwcm9jZXNzIHZzIGV4cGVkaXRlZCByZW1vdmFsMgQQABhHMgQQABhHMgQQABhHMgQQABhHMgQQABhHMgQQABhHMgQQABhHMgQQABhHSJ4KUJMJWJMJcAB4A5ABAJgBAKABAKoBALgBA8gBAPgBAZgCAqACEpgDAOIDBRIBMSBAiAYBkAYIkgcBMqAHALIHALgHAMIHBTItMS4xyAcN&sclient=gws-wiz-serp |
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Title: Re: Number one out of ten Post by MnSpring on 06/03/25 at 19:32:13 0020222A3720450 wrote:
Thanks for the references, I did 'OBSERVE' them, they were not clear. The other ULR was clear, (It was as I thought it was) "..."Expedited removal" refers to a summary form of deportation where certain noncitizens can be deported without a full hearing before an immigration judge. "Expedited process," on the other hand, is a general term that can mean speeding up any process,... " |
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