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Message started by MnSpring on 05/08/25 at 07:02:23

Title: Hydrogen
Post by MnSpring on 05/08/25 at 07:02:23

"... Scientists Find a Simple Way to Produce Hydrogen From Water at Room Temperature

A new study provides us with another promising step in that direction, provided you can make use of existing supplies of post-consumer aluminum and gallium.

In the new research, scientists describe a relatively simple method involving aluminum nanoparticles that are able to strip the oxygen from water molecules and leave hydrogen gas.

The process yields large amounts of hydrogen, and it all works at room temperature.

That removes one of the big barriers to hydrogen fuel production: the large amounts of power required to produce it using existing methods.

This technique works with any kind of water, too, including wastewater and ocean water.
Aluminum is easier to get hold of than gallium as it can be sourced from post-consumer materials, such as discarded aluminum cans and foil.

Gallium is more expensive and less abundant, but in this process at least it can be recovered and reused many times over without losing its effectiveness. ..."

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YET. Making Windmills, out of expensive material, and NOT RECYCLABLE, Is A answer ??????

YET. Making Solar panels, which when the efficiency of the panels degrade do to a newer appliance replacing it. (The older Panels are considered HAZARDOUS WASTE) Is A answer ?????

YET. Some States have created a barrier to removing Hydrogen from Water. Is A Answer ?????

YET, A POTUS creates a, MANDATE, that fossil fuel transportation will be removed by a certain date. Is A Answer ?????

Please explain WHO, is pushing so hard to convince the occupants of this Space Ship, they NEED these. EXPENSIVE, NON RECYCLABLE, and HAZARDOUS waste ?

HINT. Most are UL, WOKE, FDS, Socialists, who benefit, and TELL other SOCIALISTS that they need to repeat, and Repeat, and REPEAT the lies. JUST to fill their own pockets.

(Thus the Term, ‘Limousine Liberals’)

Title: Re: Hydrogen
Post by zevenenergie on 05/08/25 at 08:17:02

Do you have a source?

Title: Re: Hydrogen
Post by MnSpring on 05/08/25 at 08:23:05

https://www.sciencealert.com/clean-fuel-breakthrough-turns-water-into-hydrogen-at-room-temperature

Title: Re: Hydrogen
Post by zevenenergie on 05/08/25 at 08:42:49

Tanks,

I found a youtube video that shows how it works:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUrjJZC3UCU

Title: Re: Hydrogen
Post by Needles on 05/08/25 at 09:26:18

MOST commercial hydrogen is derived from petroleum products. There have been some breakthroughs, but none of them are commercially viable yet. In addition, hydrogen makes metals brittle. It's going to be interesting to see how that holds up in a combustion chamber over time.

Title: Re: Hydrogen
Post by Eegore on 05/08/25 at 17:10:02

If a way to power the entire planet is found tomorrow by converting simple natural soil found planet-wide into cold-fusion infinite power, what value does it have to ask:

YET. Making Windmills, out of expensive material, and NOT RECYCLABLE, Is A answer ??????

The less-efficient technology, all associated policy and use came Before the current energy producing discovery. There is no value in asking why energy production prior to a yet unproven energy source is "a answer". This is like a pro-solar guy asking why coal-fired electricity is "a answer" when an unproven solar tech might be available in the future. Maybe because coal-fired electricity came out decades prior.

The real issue is making sure money and research is allocated to the most promising future technologies. So ideally Federal funding should not be exclusively allocated to Solar/Wind/Gerbils on wheels etc.

Title: Re: Hydrogen
Post by JOG on 05/08/25 at 20:16:31

The government forcing the people to subsidize it is wrong. The market should be where developing technologies are supported. Or not.

Title: Re: Hydrogen
Post by WebsterMark on 05/09/25 at 04:29:25

The broadly defined data center industry is investing in small nuclear reactors. If wind and solar were capable of providing the energy we need, the energy transition would be over by now, but they can’t, so it’s not.

I had the good fortune 20 years ago to work for a company supplying components to energy storage manufacturers. They were desperately trying to build large scale energy storage systems to go along side, wind, and solar farms. That was 20 years ago. We are at best, incrementally further along now and than we were back then.

I read a few stories every month about some new amazing technology that promises to be the breakthrough in all types of energy producing segments. And I read those stories for 20 years now yet very few have lived up to the hype. Very few and I doubt this one will either.

Title: Re: Hydrogen
Post by Eegore on 05/09/25 at 11:32:29

I read a few stories every month about some new amazing technology that promises to be the breakthrough in all types of energy producing segments. And I read those stories for 20 years now yet very few have lived up to the hype. Very few and I doubt this one will either.

Agreed. This is an opinion that I agree.