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Message started by thumperclone on 04/02/25 at 10:29:31

Title: dementia setting in
Post by thumperclone on 04/02/25 at 10:29:31

your maga FELON wants to put tariffs on illegal fentanyl imports
how does that work?

Title: Re: dementia setting in
Post by Serowbot on 04/02/25 at 12:30:34

Un freakin believable
I guess he's killin' two birds with one stone?

Donald Trump mocked after claiming he'll put tariffs on ILLEGAL DRUGS in bizarre rant
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/donald-trump-mocked-after-claiming-34981105
In a strange new rant ahead of 'Liberation Day', Donald Trump claimed the US could start placing tariffs on all fentanyl imported into the US - despite it being an illegal drug

MAGA
Tell us how brilliant that is :-?

Title: Re: dementia setting in
Post by ThumperPaul on 04/02/25 at 13:14:36

Liberation Day - the day we are all freed from the beautiful globalization of world markets and free trade. Where the most efficient producers of goods and services are punished and inferior competition might get a lift. It’s basically DEI for business. If you think about it - it’s like socialism for business.

Just like price controls are bad for a free market, tariffs, at the other end of the spectrum, are just as bad if not worse.

There so much lunacy going on, but this whole tariff agenda is the absolute worst. Mark my words - this isn’t going to go well or end well.

Title: Re: dementia setting in
Post by Serowbot on 04/02/25 at 13:48:04

Trump still thinks other countries pay for tariffs
It's like trying to teach a squirrel to play chess :-?

Title: Re: dementia setting in
Post by Serowbot on 04/02/25 at 15:48:36

Well he's gone and done it, tariff madness, but it looks like it won't pass the Senate
So score another nothingburger :-?

Title: Re: dementia setting in
Post by ThumperPaul on 04/02/25 at 16:59:34

5B4D5A475F4A475C280 wrote:

Well he's gone and done it, tariff madness, but it looks like it won't pass the Senate
So score another nothingburger :-?

Educate me…isn’t the vote in the Senate only with regard to Canadian tariffs?

Either way, it’s good to finally see some balls on the GOP side to stop the madness even if it is ceremonious. They’re rightfully nervous that their constituents aren’t going to tolerate more pain from inflation or damage to their portfolios.

Trump tries to suggest only ‘short term pain’. That’s idiotic unless the tariffs are un-done sooner rather than later. The tariffs are more likely to cause a long recession or stagflation. And there’s no reason to believe this tariff BS is going to create good or high paying jobs in the US.

Hard working average Americans are already struggling with higher prices and wages not keeping pace. There is part of me that wants the Dougs to suffer and finally wake up about their beloved leader’s incompetence, but that’s no good because we all suffer together if this nightmare plays out.

Title: Re: dementia setting in
Post by thumperclone on 04/02/25 at 18:18:10

there just may be an upside to the lunacy
in 1890 the GOP supported tariffs they lost half their seats
in 1930 they lost 52 house seats and 8 in the senate after which
they had no congressional control for 60 years
we shall see
the maga FELON might be doing the country a favor

Title: Re: dementia setting in
Post by WebsterMark on 04/03/25 at 03:00:03

Hang on a second you economic gurus, you do know US manufacturers pay tariffs when we sell products made here into those countries right?

I told you before my company sold products into Brazil and paid the tariff for years, but when they increase the tariff, we built a plant in Brazil so we could stay competitive. Brazil benefited from that.

Do you think BMW is just gonna give up on the US market entirely? I read Germany (and perhaps most, if not all of Europe, I don’t know ) imposes a 10% tariff on US automobiles plus value added tax.

Title: Re: dementia setting in
Post by zevenenergie on 04/03/25 at 03:13:21

It is true that we also have tarifs in the Netherlands. Because if I buy JB weld in large packaging in America where it is half the price, then the postman has an invoice from the tax authorities, which means that it becomes the same price as if I bought it in the Netherlands.

Ask me how I know.

Title: Re: dementia setting in
Post by zevenenergie on 04/03/25 at 03:28:37

I hear more and more people with a leftist orientation who are experts are taking down the Trump administration. This will only get worse over time.

But when I look at the qualities of some of these people, I see a moderator who throws gasoline on the fire.
A man who puts a piece of wood in his cylinder and then has a mental breakdown here, because he can,t get it out again.
And someone who reacts like an inbred hillbilly with mental problems at the slightest word.

They vote for this here:

http://https://i.imgur.com/TseCEjFm.jpg

I would not cross a genius businessman who is a high achiever with a dream team of highly intelligent people who says that America will go bankrupt if we do not transform the government.

But no, there are people who know better.... ;)::)
I find it so cute and I realy love you.

Title: Re: dementia setting in
Post by ThumperPaul on 04/03/25 at 06:21:34

2F3023303B303B3027323C30550 wrote:

No mental breakdown. But you amused everyone and humiliated yourself with your genius idea of using pure oxygen and a torch to burn up the piece of wood in the cylinder.

As far as being somewhat qualified and educated, I am a Finance Major with specialization in international finance and globalization of world markets. I studied under John Ivancevich and other notable experts. I was a career Underwriting and Finance professional and retired well at age 55.

Mark - Your example of your company isn’t representative. Are you not paying any attention to what CEOs are saying? What any respected economists around the world are saying? How major investors are reacting? Or are all these people wrong and the Trump Kool-Aid economics gang is right with their faulty, biased, rosy assumptions? The crazy thing about forecasting is that you can create any answer you want by simply using bad assumptions.

Title: Re: dementia setting in
Post by zevenenergie on 04/03/25 at 07:11:36

Interesting! Where did you get your Finance Major?
John Ivancevich? Wow! What courses did he teach you?
What theories about globalization did you find most applicable in practice?

I have a practical talent, and I have had a forge for 27 years, and many blacksmiths from home and abroad have visited my forge because it was so practical in its orientation. I was known for my practical solutions and my technical insight. Through my father who was a genius and entrepreneur in the maritime world I came into contact with many extremely rich and intelligent people for whom I did assignments.

You got a free tip. My hobby is tuning 2-stroke engines so all in all I think it was not that crazy.

I think you have trouble implementing out of the box ideas.

Title: Re: dementia setting in
Post by WebsterMark on 04/03/25 at 07:11:48

Mark - Your example of your company isn’t representative. Why is it not representative [color=#000000]?

Are you not paying any attention to what CEOs are saying?[/color] CEOs will tell you they’re going to achieve net by2030 and not a single one of them believes that.

What any respected economists around the world are saying? How major investors are reacting? Or are all these people wrong and the Trump Kool-Aid economics gang is right with their faulty, biased, rosy assumptions? The crazy thing about forecasting is that you can create any answer you want by simply using bad assumptions. and that works both ways ,you’re making bad assumptions because you hate Donald Trump, and everything about him. You can’t see the forest for the trees. The truth is nobody knows how this is gonna turn out with certainty. Nobody. As I’ve always said, give it time and see what happens..

Title: Re: dementia setting in
Post by MnSpring on 04/03/25 at 07:37:22

"... It's like trying to teach a squirrel to play chess ..."

Is that the same as trying to teach a Muppet that guns save lives ?

Title: Re: dementia setting in
Post by Serowbot on 04/03/25 at 08:55:43

625E435B4653446657435A360 wrote:

You're right Paul, the earliest report I saw didn't mention that
At least it's a baby step :-?

Title: Re: dementia setting in
Post by zevenenergie on 04/03/25 at 10:41:26

I think it is mainly an attack on Europe. By levying 54% on China, China will focus on the European maket and we know what the consequences are. And at the same time Europe will have a harder time selling its products in America.

What Trump is doing now has never been done before.
It is speculation what the effect will be.

What is clear is that every citizen will get a view of how the world economy works.
And that the hidden structure of the financial world will become visible to everyone.

It clearly has a function if you look at it from the point of view of spiritual development of humanity. And let's be honest, you can't take your couch upstairs with you, so there must be a good reason why we walk around here in the world. One thing is certain, left-wing ideology is not a sign of spirituality.

If you look at Doge, it turns out that the vast majority of fraud in the government comes from the left.
So they will fight hard.
If it happens that they can cripple the trump administration then america is minced meat.
The left will never tackle government spending.

Musk got the astronauts out of space and there was no news about it.
That is a sign of how wrong the people who still hold a large portion of power are..

Trump is doing well.
MAGA: Reunite the United States. (In case you still think America is great).

Title: Re: dementia setting in
Post by Serowbot on 04/03/25 at 11:40:10

293625363D363D3621343A36530 wrote:

If you look at Doge, it turns out that the vast majority of fraud in the government comes from the left.
So they will fight hard.
If it happens that they can cripple the trump administration then america is minced meat.
The left will never tackle government spending.

Wrong... the vast majority of fraud comes from military spending, which won't be touched

Title: Re: dementia setting in
Post by zevenenergie on 04/03/25 at 11:50:15

Bingo.

Title: Re: dementia setting in
Post by Serowbot on 04/03/25 at 13:43:05

That's right the f35 program alone has cost $1.7 trillion and we're taking food from the hungry

Title: Re: dementia setting in
Post by zevenenergie on 04/03/25 at 14:47:59

Defense is a no go, but if you tackle the waste of the government, at some point you also tackle defense because the tax money goes to defense and a healthy government checks its expenses. Up until now, defense can get away with not being accountable.

So what Trump is doing is very beneficial.
Up until now, you had presidents who were corrupt themselves and made big problems even bigger. Trump is going completely against this. His policy makes a lot of people very nervous.

I dare say that defense has more power over the government than the other way around. The three large infestation companies.... ehhh sorry investment companies that I will call Blackrock for convenience are actually weapons manufacturers that determine where and when there is war. They also oversee all other financial transactions, including cash withdrawals at the cash register. They buy up all the houses in America. Trump was able to become president because they allowed it. Defense can never be tackled by a president but a healthy government can. The bigger the man the bigger the fall. If the financial world were to focus on the heart that would bring about an enormous revolution.

Trump is at the base of this revolution even though you wouldn't say so.

Title: Re: dementia setting in
Post by ThumperPaul on 04/04/25 at 06:21:34

Zevenenergie - if you keep blabbering and mocking long enough, something intelligent might come out eventually.

The ever popular and ignorant, “Nobody Knows” argument….

We’ve done the mass tariff thing 3 times in American history.

1828, 1930, and 2025

All spaced out about 100 years apart because everyone who remembers the last one needs to be dead for the next one to happen.

The last 2 caused a depression. I hope this one makes us rich though.

My disgust for Trump as a human being is irrelevant. I’ll fully support good policies if he has any.

The problem with people that have a giant hard-on for Trump is that they can’t evaluate things clearly in an objective manner.

Title: Re: dementia setting in
Post by zevenenergie on 04/04/25 at 09:51:39

My heart never deceives me. I see very clearly.