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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Politics, Religion (Tall Table) >> Yeah, we Really need to stop This! /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1739822541 Message started by JOG on 02/17/25 at 12:02:21 |
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Title: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by JOG on 02/17/25 at 12:02:21 Because Dmokrucee! https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/02/elon-musks-doge-team-uncovers-25-million-people/ |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by Eegore on 02/17/25 at 12:06:36 Might be paying. Call me when they are paying. |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by JOG on 02/17/25 at 12:22:48 They have been wrong about everything so far.. But,it's Outrageous to think checks could go to so many people Over100. And creating a claim easily debunked damages Our side. |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by zevenenergie on 02/17/25 at 12:29:17 I Love it. Two pissed off or bisnes men who were thwarted by the democrats and who are now taking revenge. And one of them is a genius, who hired 200 other young geniuses to crappity smack them up. It will never, get better than this. Trump goes down in history as the best persident america has ever had. Period. |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by JOG on 02/17/25 at 12:52:32 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1891350795452654076/photo/1 |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by Eegore on 02/17/25 at 14:26:40 They have been wrong about everything so far.. But,it's Outrageous to think checks could go to so many people Over100. And creating a claim easily debunked damages Our side. Never stopped those claims from being argued on here before. Doesn't matter if it's wrong because the POINT is: fill in reason to ignore wrong data here. SS Database is not payment records. Until they show some sort of payment, this is nothing more than information that needs to be investigated. Of course I won't be surprised to hear any time someone challenges Musk/DOGE activity that some people will bring up the "What about all those dead 150 year old's SS was paying!!" and that's exactly what they want people to do - Ignore the facts and repeat the rhetoric. It works on both sides. |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by LANCER on 02/17/25 at 14:36:06 554A594A414A414A5D48464A2F0 wrote:
Trump, George & Abe, all in the same club. Hoo-Rawwwww [ch129413] |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by Serowbot on 02/17/25 at 14:40:30 Debunked |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by Eegore on 02/17/25 at 15:06:32 Debunked Stop it. The fact that the database he presented is over 400 Million people means nothing. False claims would be damaging so it's best to believe them. |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by JOG on 02/17/25 at 22:08:12 https://ncrenegade.com/michelle-king-acting-head-of-the-social-security-administration-resigns/ Because Eeeeverything is just Riiight.. |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by zevenenergie on 02/18/25 at 00:49:23 The Times They Are A-Changin, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90WD_ats6eE |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by zevenenergie on 02/18/25 at 02:19:13 7660776A72676A71050 wrote:
There,s someting realy strange about you: https://www.pgpf.org/national-debt-clock/?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiA_NC9BhCkARIsABSnSTb36kn4Vg6qo_Du0GtaJ39nWKlHK7zr3Upy_vtFD8SKI_jUy0vcze4aAkf0EALw_wcB |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by Eegore on 02/18/25 at 08:44:30 Because Eeeeverything is just Riiight.. I would have expected this to happen as she was going to be fired anyway, no matter what that database said. The fact that the reason for that database being in it's current state is being ignored tells a lot about how much truth people actually want here. Just believe anything Musk says and it will be ok. |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by MnSpring on 02/18/25 at 13:21:27 19393B332E395C0 wrote:
Just to make sure, your Point is, nothing more than information that needs to be investigated ??? |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by Eegore on 02/18/25 at 15:49:38 Just to make sure, your Point is, nothing more than information that needs to be investigated ??? My point is that the evidence provided should be investigated and is not providing the information that is claimed, but that type of thing has historically been conveniently ignored. |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by JOG on 02/18/25 at 18:23:35 Why does it need investigated? I have it on good authority it's been debunked. |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by Eegore on 02/18/25 at 20:26:13 Why does it need investigated? I have it on good authority it's been debunked. If 400 million humans are getting SS payments, that should be investigated. That should take about 1 minute because SS would be bankrupt in about 30 seconds if it were true. The real question is why one even attempts to pass any of this along as fact to begin with. |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by zevenenergie on 02/19/25 at 02:42:24 I'm curious about real numbers. Because the problem is that otherwise we will start beating each other over the head with lies, as is the culture in America. |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by WebsterMark on 02/19/25 at 04:27:36 The sun will rise tomorrow, and there are people out there cheating Social Security. Those two are absolute facts. I could look on various websites, and know exactly what time the sun will rise tomorrow wherever I am in the world. However, how much social security money is being stolen is unknown but I’m sure if we knew the true amount, we would be shocked. People steal money. I think I’ve mentioned this on here before, but I put on three company golf tournaments that were fundraisers. One was a fundraiser for warehouse worker stricken with cancer. He was basically a lump of flesh at the time and died a couple months later. It was a fun raiser for his widow to be and a couple kids. If you’ve never played in an event like this, you can win extra money by closest to the hole, longest putt, longest drive, etc. and events like these, everybody donates the prize back into the pot. But these three SOBs customers from Philadelphia, who were playing behind us, repeatedly cheated. I saw them. I told the owner of our company, but he did not want to call them out in front of everyone. And they did not donate the gift cards back to the pot. If I remember, they were $100 Visa gift cards. The point is, the number of people who are stealing Social Security checks from dead people will be shocking. Let’s just wait and see what the actual numbers are. |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by JOG on 02/19/25 at 07:03:48 The tally shows around 60 million more numbers than total population. How many checks are going out? We'll see. I saw an explanation for how a number could be really old and it seemed reasonable. Not two hundred, but old. If I see it again, ill drop it in here. |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by Eegore on 02/19/25 at 10:34:38 The point is, the number of people who are stealing Social Security checks from dead people will be shocking. Let’s just wait and see what the actual numbers are. People are often surprised by the number of ethics committees I have sat in to decide the outcome of a patient who is being kept alive on machines so the family can collect checks often surprises people. |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by MnSpring on 02/19/25 at 15:09:54 1F3F3D35283F5A0 wrote:
When my Mother passed away, it was on the last day of the Month. SS required that the entire month was repaid. (Guess it is money for the the cheaters, liers, and those that put their dead Gramma in the closet so the checks keep coming). , |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by Eegore on 02/19/25 at 15:28:37 When my Mother passed away, it was on the last day of the Month. SS required that the entire month was repaid. (Guess it is money for the the cheaters, liers, and those that put their dead Gramma in the closet so the checks keep coming). Or the 400 million dead humans on that list. |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by JOG on 02/20/25 at 08:43:07 IDK,, it just seems like E is trying to convince us Nothing to see here. |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by Eegore on 02/20/25 at 11:30:38 IDK,, it just seems like E is trying to convince us Nothing to see here. I never said anything like that. Again this is nothing more than your refusal to accept anything beyond absolute agreement. I said the database being used is not a payment record but should be investigated. It should be investigated. It has over 400 million names so it's implausible that those are all being paid out. It should be investigated though. To be clear since it seems you won't Observe this: I think it should be investigated, it should be investigated. Nothing about that indicates in any way that there is nothing to see. This is no different than you thinking I would research reports on graphene to "control" a forum post instead of researching the information to see what the information actually said. You really think these posts are more important than they are. |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by JOG on 02/20/25 at 13:03:29 it's implausible that those are all being paid out Obviously But seeing what the database is and not expecting it to be a source of massive fraud is beyond naive. |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by Eegore on 02/20/25 at 13:41:26 But seeing what the database is and not expecting it to be a source of massive fraud is beyond naive. Possibly as we all know SS fraud is rampant. What I want to know is why they chose this one to release to the public, knowing it is inaccurate, and closed as an actual resource. Public outcry and support is my assessment. So I'm not sure this actual database is a source beyond it being a blanket span of hundreds of millions - so the odds are good it will have some fraud. I'd want to see the actual payment database as I feel that is a better resource. |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by JOG on 02/20/25 at 14:48:33 knowing it is inaccurate, It's a DATABASE. In the Government Database. Reporting what IS is important. How is a DATABASE inaccurate? It says what it has been fed. It's exactly what it is. Cooked Books. It's a means to steal our money. And YOU naturally want to pretend it's not important. It's more than you want everyone to believe. |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by thumperclone on 02/20/25 at 15:24:21 [quote How is a DATABASE inaccurate? when it's not kept up to date... |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by Eegore on 02/20/25 at 15:59:43 And YOU naturally want to pretend it's not important. I never said that, I said it should be investigated. It should be investigated. Your inability to accept anything other than blind absolute agreement with your stance prohibits you from having an adult discussion. It's important, it should be investigated. I want to see payments, not a DATABASE of 400 million humans that obviously are not all being paid. It's a DATABASE. In the Government Database. Reporting what IS is important. How is a DATABASE inaccurate? I have a DATABASE of employee payroll from 2005. None of those employees are employed by me anymore - some are dead. Is that DATABASE a current accurate payroll database? I have a DATABASE of all employees I have ever had, from 2005 to today. Is that an accurate DATABASE of current employee payroll? Would it be accurate for someone to claim I am paying a lot of Vampires or Zombies because I have a DATABASE with dead employees names on it? DATABASE is not equal to accurate. |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by JOG on 02/20/25 at 17:00:15 My statement stands. And To TC The fact that the database has not been maintained to represent what it Should is The Problem. Like the voter rolls. The FACT that the Database is fukktup is how waste,fraud and abuse are accomplished. The database being made public Is Not The Problem. It's the absolutel Obviousness that the Database that payments are based on is clearly fukktup is showing us how we,,WE,are being ripped off. Open yer fukkin eyes,dude. |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by Eegore on 02/20/25 at 18:59:05 It's the absolutel Obviousness that the Database that payments are based on is clearly fukktup is showing us how we,,WE,are being ripped off. Open yer fukkin eyes,dude. But it's not the database payments are based off of. It's the one they abandoned when they updated the systems, COBOL is old. Did you even look at any of this? We need to know how screwed up the current payment database is. Just like I don't need to go update my 2005 payrolls and waste money there, I need to have my 2025 ones accurate. That's where I should spend money. |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by JOG on 02/20/25 at 20:29:36 The Musketeers have Shown us waste,fraud and abuse. So, why show a DATABASE that has ZERO IMPACT on WFA? You pretend this is meaningless. As was the laptop. Funny how you are So Concerned about what I say. But you walk right by what TC and the Blue Muppet say. |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by thumperclone on 02/21/25 at 05:15:03 Open yer fukkin eyes,dude.[/quote] open your eyes and read my post! you posted a question, I answered it your bellicose personality gets in the way of a sane thought process YES an outdated data base is ripe for fraud we need to stop the waste and fraud the process needs to be done with the support of congress |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by WebsterMark on 02/21/25 at 06:05:51 6B776A726F7A6D7C7370717A1F0 wrote:
open your eyes and read my post! you posted a question, I answered it your bellicose personality gets in the way of a sane thought process YES an outdated data base is ripe for fraud we need to stop the waste and fraud the process needs to be done with the support of congress [/quote] Congress is literally the fox who guards the hen house and the ones who created and supported this system over decades. They are incapable of fixing this. It’s being run by career bureaucrats, which is why it has to come from the top. |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by Eegore on 02/21/25 at 06:20:21 Congress is literally the fox who guards the hen house and the ones who created and supported this system over decades. They are incapable of fixing this. It’s being run by career bureaucrats, which is why it has to come from the top. The speed of Congress is a double edged sword. It's good they can't jump to conclusions so to speak, but bad it takes ages to get simple core-things done. There should be focus on Social Security fraud mitigation, but there's no need to update the "database" Musk posted. He posted that just to get views and support - not because it reflects actual payment activity. We as independent humans should be able to assess the difference between spending money updating a database that is not being used and spending money using a current payment database. Congress will take too long, so DOGE or whoever needs to get it started. While we squabble over whether the Musk referenced DATABASE is accurate or not, someone out there hopefully will be using the actual real payment records to find fraud. |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by thumperclone on 02/21/25 at 09:12:42 033136272031261935263F540 wrote:
open your eyes and read my post! you posted a question, I answered it your bellicose personality gets in the way of a sane thought process YES an outdated data base is ripe for fraud we need to stop the waste and fraud the process needs to be done with the support of congress [/quote] Congress is literally the fox who guards the hen house and the ones who created and supported this system over decades. They are incapable of fixing this. It’s being run by career bureaucrats, which is why it has to come from the top. [/quote] you forget both houses have a republican majority |
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Title: Re: Yeah, we Really need to stop This! Post by JOG on 02/21/25 at 09:29:44 you forget both houses have a republican majority And FINALLY America is being returned to sanity. |
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