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Message started by MnSpring on 02/05/25 at 16:08:41

Title: Born in the USA
Post by MnSpring on 02/05/25 at 16:08:41

If a Born in the USA person.
Stole, Cheated, Lied.
Trafficked in Illegal Drugs,
Raped, Shot at, Killed Someone.
SNUCK, into another Nation with OUT any official visas, or other requirements.
(Just to name a few things)

Then got caught doing one or more of those things, what would happen ?

So if someone was Not Born in the USA,
And did something like the above.
Why do the
UL, DFI, WOKE, FDS Socialists
CRY,
about that person’s ‘rights’ ?????

Title: Re: Born in the USA
Post by ThumperPaul on 02/05/25 at 16:22:59

Then got caught doing one or more of those things, what would happen ?

If probably depends on the laws in that country.

Why do the
UL, DFI, WOKE, FDS Socialists
CRY,
about that person’s ‘rights’ ?????

Because our legal system says something about "innocent until proven guity"??? It's the way our legal system works.

Title: Re: Born in the USA
Post by MnSpring on 02/05/25 at 16:33:45

the words :

"...Then got caught ..."

do Not mean,
'accused of'.

Title: Re: Born in the USA
Post by Eegore on 02/05/25 at 17:01:15

the words :

"...Then got caught ..."

do Not mean,
'accused of'.

They also don't mean convicted of. US citizen humans caught on camera with witnesses and admitting themselves that they committed a crime are still presumed innocent until proven guilty IN a court of law.

I agree with Thumper, it depends on the country.

Title: Re: Born in the USA
Post by MnSpring on 02/05/25 at 18:04:31

Again the POINT.

If someone is ILLEGALLY in a Country,
Deportation, is a GIFT for them !!!!!

“…presumed innocent until proven guilty…”

Sounds good,
Yet in reality!

You get a driving ticket’, you are considered guilty, when you pay the fine.
REGARDLESS if the ‘ticket’ is correct, or the radar was correctly calibrated, or or the ‘officer’ just had a bad day and takes it out on you.

Same with most, Department Of Natural Resources. (Hunting/Fishing) You will get a ‘ticket’ and your personal property, Car/Boat/Gun, will be CONFISCATED. If you pay the fine your property is GONE, and you are guilty.

Both, you MUST PROVE you are NOT Guilty.

Even

• The contents of an indictment or other formal accusation are presumed true unless specifically rebutted in a court of law.

• Defendants in court who plead Not Guilty are required to prove their innocence in order to obtain an acquittal.

• Simply disproving the prosecution's evidence is insufficient for an acquittal unless the defendant also affirmatively proves their innocence.

(Then their is the IRS, especially when Obama was Pres)

Title: Re: Born in the USA
Post by Eegore on 02/05/25 at 19:24:07

Sounds good,
Yet in reality!

Yeah those are different than the things you asked about.

I imagine the answer is still the same: "Caught" is not "Convicted of". And what happens in another country is dependent on what country it is.

Title: Re: Born in the USA
Post by LANCER on 02/05/25 at 19:57:20

:o
5B784566647F7871160 wrote:

Cause those crying about the rights of criminal illegal aliens are criminals themselves…they are trying to throw up a smoke screen to confuse us of what they are all doing.