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Message started by JOG on 02/05/25 at 03:39:07

Title: How does it even exist??
Post by JOG on 02/05/25 at 03:39:07

Will it continue to exist? Suppose anyone gets prosecuted?

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Acacia Center for Justice, based in Washington, D.C., is one of the largest federal immigration contractors, overseeing a $769 million program that provides lawyers for unaccompanied alien children and adults in immigration court hearings and deportation proceedings.

The group says its aim is to provide due process rights for illegal aliens. But it also calls for a radical upheaval of the immigration and deportation system—goals that are starkly at odds with the Trump administration's objectives.

https://freebeacon.com/politics/no-immigrant-should-be-detained-says-left-wing-nonprofit-with-769-million-federal-immigration-contract/

Title: Re: How does it even exist??
Post by LANCER on 02/05/25 at 04:29:57

Well, entering the US unlawfully IS a felony, so adult “illegal aliens”, and will be removed. The US will try to find the children and their parents as well if it’s possible. If the parents are found and illegal, then the family will be sent back to their country. This was stated by Trump.

I’m not sure about children whose parents cannot be found, perhaps be put up for adoption here.

Title: Re: How does it even exist??
Post by thumperclone on 02/05/25 at 05:01:19

you have the right to representation if you cannot afford a lawyer, one will be provided for you

Title: Re: How does it even exist??
Post by WebsterMark on 02/05/25 at 05:19:31

5B475A425F4A5D4C4340414A2F0 wrote:

you have the right to representation if you cannot afford a lawyer, one will be provided for you

That applies to US citizens. You know those people “subject to the jurisdiction thereof“.

Title: Re: How does it even exist??
Post by thumperclone on 02/05/25 at 05:28:21

so, a non-citizen doesn't have to obey our laws??

Title: Re: How does it even exist??
Post by Eegore on 02/05/25 at 05:30:15

That applies to US citizens. You know those people “subject to the jurisdiction thereof“.

According to the SCOTUS on multiple occasions "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" applies to any human where a US law can be enforced and not just US citizens. Diplomatic immunity being an exception - since US law is not enforced on them.

Title: Re: How does it even exist??
Post by JOG on 02/05/25 at 06:52:21

534F524A574255444B484942270 wrote:

so, a non-citizen doesn't have to obey our laws??

But the left have that whole
Nuance thing down and we are just obtuse compared to leftards.
Of Course they are expected to stop at red,lights. No,they can't just walk in and rob a bank without
Our laws applying.

They don't have the rights and protections CITIZENS have.
They have no legal relationship with America.
I wonder how you leftards would respond to coming home and discovering a woman who just dropped her bambino in your living room.
You'd adopt them, right?
I don't believe you actually Believe the things you say actually make sense.
Ok, maybe you do,, but that is just scary so I'm Really trying to believe you aren't as idiotic as you would have to be if you actually don't grasp such an obvious point.

Title: Re: How does it even exist??
Post by Eegore on 02/05/25 at 08:10:12

The SCOTUS ruled once humans set foot on US soil they get legal representation. That's why GITMO detainees have lawyers if they were moved from US soil to Cuba, but they do not have to do the same if the detainee was intercepted in international waters. They later expanded representation rights.

That's why all those terrorists had lawyers.

https://www.southcom.mil/Portals/7/Documents/Joint_Task_Force_Guantanamo_Attorney_Access_to_Detainees_Aug2023.pdf?ver=QF5TYASOJLj33-ane38uVg%3D%3D#:~:text=Attorney%20Access%20to%20GTMO%20Detainees&text=All%20detainees%20have%20been%20informed,as%20counsel%20for%20the%20detainee.

Title: Re: How does it even exist??
Post by Serowbot on 02/05/25 at 08:18:04

As a felon 34 times over, Trump should know the rules