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Message started by blod on 02/02/25 at 11:38:51

Title: Cameras
Post by blod on 02/02/25 at 11:38:51

  I have started making a video documentary about my local town and have has some crazy reactions.
Cameras are everywhere these days, yet as soon as people see me recording them with my camera they go mad.

What is it about hand held cameras that wind people up ?

This guy is funny..

https://www.bitchute.com/video/OkQQggPH6a9B/

Title: Re: Cameras
Post by Serowbot on 02/02/25 at 14:58:47

So your hobby is annoying people and then posting it?

Cool?  :-?

Title: Re: Cameras
Post by blod on 02/02/25 at 17:49:58


2630273A22373A21550 wrote:
So your hobby is annoying people and then posting it?

Cool?  :-?


That was not my initial intention, but it has turned out that way.
 
 Why recording people with a hand held camera annoys people is beyond my comprehension. It does not bother me in the slightest.

  It's good to have discovered a new and legal hobby that will keep me occupied during the winter months, and I don't have to please anyone, in fact the more people dislike me the happier I become. :)

Title: Re: Cameras
Post by oldNslow on 02/02/25 at 18:59:19

"Why recording people with a hand held camera annoys people is beyond my comprehension... "

If someone explains it to you with a good old fashioned a*s whuppin you'll comprehend. Good luck with your new hobby. :o





Title: Re: Cameras
Post by Ruttly on 02/02/25 at 21:06:48

Pay heed , the old wise one has spoken !

Title: Re: Cameras
Post by blod on 02/03/25 at 04:55:48


7B4544485A4647290 wrote:
"Why recording people with a hand held camera annoys people is beyond my comprehension... "

If someone explains it to you with a good old fashioned a*s whuppin you'll comprehend. Good luck with your new hobby. :o


It's plain to see that you feel threatened by cameras !    My question to you is WHY ?

Title: Re: Cameras
Post by blod on 02/03/25 at 05:25:44

I'm going to attend a service at the Our Lady of Assumption Co-Cathedral next Sunday if the weather is OK.
I intended to go yesterday but it was brass monkey weather and everyone stays at home when it's below -20.

I have not been in a church for over 50 years, and I have not been in a catholic church ever.     It should be an interesting experience. ;D

Title: Re: Cameras
Post by TheBabyDerp on 02/03/25 at 07:06:49

Attend the mass. Don't take communion though.

Converting to Catholicism was the best decision I ever made.

As for your hobby, I would be careful. Blur out brand names for sure. And if you are monetizing it, expect the possibility of being sued. If someone had a public recording of myself in a documentary that was monetized, I would demand payment or otherwise I would sue.


Title: Re: Cameras
Post by blod on 02/03/25 at 07:25:09


667A777073706B76776062120 wrote:
Attend the mass. Don't take communion though.

Converting to Catholicism was the best decision I ever made.

As for your hobby, I would be careful. Blur out brand names for sure. And if you are monetizing it, expect the possibility of being sued. If someone had a public recording of myself in a documentary that was monetized, I would demand payment or otherwise I would sue.


It will not be monetized, it's just for fun :)

Why did you convert to Catholicism , and what did you convert from ?

Title: Re: Cameras
Post by ThumperPaul on 02/03/25 at 10:28:52


303E3D36520 wrote:
[quote author=2630273A22373A21550 link=1738525131/0#1 date=1738537127]So your hobby is annoying people and then posting it?

Cool?  :-?


That was not my initial intention, but it has turned out that way.
 
 Why recording people with a hand held camera annoys people is beyond my comprehension. It does not bother me in the slightest.

  It's good to have discovered a new and legal hobby that will keep me occupied during the winter months, and I don't have to please anyone, in fact the more people dislike me the happier I become. :)[/quote]

That sounds like a person that is deep down really pathetically miserable and unhappy with themself.  But I’m not a doctor.

Title: Re: Cameras
Post by ThumperPaul on 02/03/25 at 12:15:06


6F6162690D0 wrote:
  I have started making a video documentary about my local town and have has some crazy reactions.
Cameras are everywhere these days, yet as soon as people see me recording them with my camera they go mad.

What is it about hand held cameras that wind people up ?

This guy is funny..

https://www.bitchute.com/video/OkQQggPH6a9B/


A) because you look and seem like an a-hole
B) walking around filming and being a jerk is disturbing
C) your intention and motivation is unknown
D) All of the above.

D is the best answer.

Title: Re: Cameras
Post by blod on 02/03/25 at 12:22:25


487469716C796E4C7D69701C0 wrote:
A) because you look and seem like an a-hole
B) walking around filming and being a jerk is disturbing
C) your intention and motivation is unknown
D) All of the above.

D is the best answer.


If any of those things disturb you then you need help from a trick cyclist.

Title: Re: Cameras
Post by oldNslow on 02/03/25 at 12:35:53


2A24272C480 wrote:
[quote author=7B4544485A4647290 link=1738525131/0#3 date=1738551559]"Why recording people with a hand held camera annoys people is beyond my comprehension... "

If someone explains it to you with a good old fashioned a*s whuppin you'll comprehend. Good luck with your new hobby. :o


It's plain to see that you feel threatened by cameras !    My question to you is WHY ?[/quote]

First. No, I'm not threatened by cameras.

Second. My comment was meant as a gentle, and I hoped, amusing, warning to be careful whom you pointed your camera at.

Perhaps I was mistaken.

I don't think it's necessarily your camera that's going to get you in trouble, rather your attitude.

Title: Re: Cameras
Post by ThumperPaul on 02/03/25 at 12:43:37


2F2122294D0 wrote:
[quote author=487469716C796E4C7D69701C0 link=1738525131/0#10 date=1738613706]
A) because you look and seem like an a-hole
B) walking around filming and being a jerk is disturbing
C) your intention and motivation is unknown
D) All of the above.

D is the best answer.


If any of those things disturb you then you need help from a trick cyclist.
[/quote]

You asked the question.  I simply gave you a few possible answers.  You’re clearly a pathetic jerk.  Funny for your disturbed self maybe, but the guy you find funny and attempt to mock by posting video on a public forum on the internet isn’t amused by your childish hobby.  Hope you’re really enjoying yourself.  I’ll just sit here and wait for karma to kick in.

Title: Re: Cameras
Post by blod on 02/03/25 at 14:41:58


0836373B2935345A0 wrote:
[quote author=2A24272C480 link=1738525131/0#5 date=1738587348][quote author=7B4544485A4647290 link=1738525131/0#3 date=1738551559]"Why recording people with a hand held camera annoys people is beyond my comprehension... "

If someone explains it to you with a good old fashioned a*s whuppin you'll comprehend. Good luck with your new hobby. :o


It's plain to see that you feel threatened by cameras !    My question to you is WHY ?[/quote]

First. No, I'm not threatened by cameras.

Second. My comment was meant as a gentle, and I hoped, amusing, warning to be careful whom you pointed your camera at.

Perhaps I was mistaken.

I don't think it's necessarily your camera that's going to get you in trouble, rather your attitude.
[/quote]

Generally the threat of violence is because of a perceived threat.

Be careful what you say to people unless you  want  your face smashed in................  That was an amusing and gentle warning right ? ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Cameras
Post by blod on 02/03/25 at 14:56:34


477B667E6376614372667F130 wrote:
[quote author=2F2122294D0 link=1738525131/0#11 date=1738614145][quote author=487469716C796E4C7D69701C0 link=1738525131/0#10 date=1738613706]
A) because you look and seem like an a-hole
B) walking around filming and being a jerk is disturbing
C) your intention and motivation is unknown
D) All of the above.

D is the best answer.


If any of those things disturb you then you need help from a trick cyclist.
[/quote]

You asked the question.  I simply gave you a few possible answers.  You’re clearly a pathetic jerk.  Funny for your disturbed self maybe, but the guy you find funny and attempt to mock by posting video on a public forum on the internet isn’t amused by your childish hobby.  Hope you’re really enjoying yourself.  I’ll just sit here and wait for karma to kick in.[/quote]

Your answers made no sense whatsoever, and they are still not making any sense.    

Cameras are everywhere and watching you constantly, one more makes no difference, but I doubt you will ever be able to realize that.

Title: Re: Cameras
Post by blod on 02/04/25 at 06:59:30

I can't think of any hobby more peaceful than photography

Title: Re: Cameras
Post by TheBabyDerp on 02/04/25 at 07:00:43


27292A21450 wrote:
[quote author=667A777073706B76776062120 link=1738525131/0#7 date=1738595209]Attend the mass. Don't take communion though.

Converting to Catholicism was the best decision I ever made.

As for your hobby, I would be careful. Blur out brand names for sure. And if you are monetizing it, expect the possibility of being sued. If someone had a public recording of myself in a documentary that was monetized, I would demand payment or otherwise I would sue.


It will not be monetized, it's just for fun :)

Why did you convert to Catholicism , and what did you convert from ?
[/quote]

This is the cafe section, so due to the rules, I can't really dive too deep and give a full answer, but a quick summary will suffice to answer your questions. I was raised Pentecostal, but parents didn't go to Church much at all. I was non-practicing and pretty much left Christianity. Identified as agnostic or no religion and lived a lifestyle that paid no heed to anything religious or spiritual. Years of research led to me accepting Jesus Christ's claim that He is God alongside the authority of the Roman Pontiff and here I am now. I haven't even been officially Catholic for a year. Sorry, I can't really give enough details on this thread/section. I would have to write a mini novel, and I wouldn't feel right doing so without listing my sources as well.

As for your hobby, the fact that you are not monetizing it does prevent many legal issues down the road. I will say though. The governments do not decide what is morally right or wrong. Walking up to people with a camera in their face has the potential to be harassment from a moral perspective. People don't like to be harassed or antagonized. There is always the potential for you to be attacked. There's a few Youtubers that drive around to different towns showcasing the town in a documentary format, interviewing people with their permission, etc. There is a right way to do it, and a wrong way to do it. I would recommend learning from people who already do it.

Title: Re: Cameras
Post by blod on 02/04/25 at 07:11:14


233F323536352E33322527570 wrote:
[quote author=27292A21450 link=1738525131/0#8 date=1738596309][quote author=667A777073706B76776062120 link=1738525131/0#7 date=1738595209]Attend the mass. Don't take communion though.

Converting to Catholicism was the best decision I ever made.

As for your hobby, I would be careful. Blur out brand names for sure. And if you are monetizing it, expect the possibility of being sued. If someone had a public recording of myself in a documentary that was monetized, I would demand payment or otherwise I would sue.


It will not be monetized, it's just for fun :)

Why did you convert to Catholicism , and what did you convert from ?
[/quote]

This is the cafe section, so due to the rules, I can't really dive too deep and give a full answer, but a quick summary will suffice to answer your questions. I was raised Pentecostal, but parents didn't go to Church much at all. I was non-practicing and pretty much left Christianity. Identified as agnostic or no religion and lived a lifestyle that paid no heed to anything religious or spiritual. Years of research led to me accepting Jesus Christ's claim that He is God alongside the authority of the Roman Pontiff and here I am now. I haven't even been officially Catholic for a year. Sorry, I can't really give enough details on this thread/section. I would have to write a mini novel, and I wouldn't feel right doing so without listing my sources as well.

As for your hobby, the fact that you are not monetizing it does prevent many legal issues down the road. I will say though. The governments do not decide what is morally right or wrong. Walking up to people with a camera in their face has the potential to be harassment from a moral perspective. People don't like to be harassed or antagonized. There is always the potential for you to be attacked. There's a few Youtubers that drive around to different towns showcasing the town in a documentary format, interviewing people with their permission, etc. There is a right way to do it, and a wrong way to do it. I would recommend learning from people who already do it.[/quote]

From my experience the right way to do it is to remain silent at all times, it's impossible to get into an argument when you don't speak, ( though that seems to piss people off too  ) and never stick a camera in someone's face.

    What is "in someone's face " exactly ?

Title: Re: Cameras
Post by Eegore on 02/04/25 at 07:42:43


 I think when it comes down to filming in public, and specifically in public, the most defining parameter is general courtesy - which the filmmaker has no obligation to provide.  So yeah the public can just deal with it.

 I find that humans that film others that do not want to be filmed as a "documentary" of their area are really only documenting the general aversion the average human can have to being suddenly filmed - which is pretty universal and not unique to that town/city/location etc.  It becomes nothing more than a prank-style film and limits the ability for someone watching to see or learn anything about the area or people.

   Someone driving slow in the fast lane doesn't bother me at all, but I do not do the same using my lack of concern as an analogue for all humans.  I noticed once while helping a friend move film equipment that a man seemed very distraught at a pizza place, like severely panicked.  I assisted him in getting out a side door as he was literally panicked by all the camera equipment out front.  Turns out, as he fought back tears and thanked me - that he was forced to commit sex-acts on film as a boy.  So I guess we never know why someone doesn't want to be on camera - no matter how little it might bother us.

Title: Re: Cameras
Post by TheBabyDerp on 02/04/25 at 07:53:18


0E2E2C24392E4B0 wrote:
 I think when it comes down to filming in public, and specifically in public, the most defining parameter is general courtesy - which the filmmaker has no obligation to provide.  So yeah the public can just deal with it.

 I find that humans that film others that do not want to be filmed as a "documentary" of their area are really only documenting the general aversion the average human can have to being suddenly filmed - which is pretty universal and not unique to that town/city/location etc.  It becomes nothing more than a prank-style film and limits the ability for someone watching to see or learn anything about the area or people.

   Someone driving slow in the fast lane doesn't bother me at all, but I do not do the same using my lack of concern as an analogue for all humans.  I noticed once while helping a friend move film equipment that a man seemed very distraught at a pizza place, like severely panicked.  I assisted him in getting out a side door as he was literally panicked by all the camera equipment out front.  Turns out, as he fought back tears and thanked me - that he was forced to commit sex-acts on film as a boy.  So I guess we never know why someone doesn't want to be on camera - no matter how little it might bother us.


You make pretty good points, and I agree. Regardless of legality, it is an not a very nice person move to randomly film people while walking around. Even if you don't care about being an not a very nice person, there is still a chance you run into a crazy person who could hurt you.

Title: Re: Cameras
Post by blod on 02/04/25 at 08:51:48


4A6A68607D6A0F0 wrote:

I find that humans that film others that do not want to be filmed as a "documentary" of their area are really only documenting the general aversion the average human can have to being suddenly filmed - which is pretty universal and not unique to that town/city/location etc.  It becomes nothing more than a prank-style film and limits the ability for someone watching to see or learn anything about the area or people.


The documentary I am making in my local town is an unannounced  silent documentary.  It is a completely honest and unbiassed.
 The people decide for themselves how they will react, I offer no guidance.  

I have only just started the project, so far I have documented four business, three passed with flying colours, and I am sure they will be happy to be featured in  the documentary , one not  so much ;D

So far the horse pigs have not been involved, but I doubt that will always be the case. If they do get involved they will also get the silent treatment

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