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Message started by blod on 12/13/24 at 15:14:13

Title: It looks like I will be getting a sidecar for 2025
Post by blod on 12/13/24 at 15:14:13

I found a new unused one in Ontario that was imported from the US 18 months ago. It's half the price of what I would have normally expected to pay, so I'm going for it.

The Savage with it's low down torque will make a perfect sidecar rig. It's the modern equivalent of a Phelon and Moore Panther.

There were still quite a few Panthers about when I was in my late teens, all of them had sidecars. Window cleaners used to love them. I even saw a yellow Automobile Association Panther once, it was bright yellow with a big box sidecar.

http://https://i.imgur.com/wpRFZdth.jpg

http://https://i.imgur.com/6opmyZkh.jpg

I will make a subframe at home and bolt it together, then once I'm happy with it I will get a friend to weld it. It will be detachable.

Title: Re: It looks like I will be getting a sidecar for
Post by verslagen1 on 12/13/24 at 17:28:18

The 1 caution I would give you is concerning the swingarm, there has been at least 1 report of a crack at the passenger peg mount, so I would keep an eye on it.

My take on it is the swingarm wasn't designed for side loads that you'll have with a sidecar.

Title: Re: It looks like I will be getting a sidecar for
Post by blod on 12/13/24 at 18:03:41

4A594E4F505D5B59520D3C0 wrote:

The rear footrest mount is totally useless for a sidecar mount, it moves up and down with the swinging arm. ;D

I intend to make an independent subframe for the lower mounts.

A subframe similar to this.

http://https://i.imgur.com/hX5eyR3h.jpg

Title: Re: It looks like I will be getting a sidecar for
Post by verslagen1 on 12/13/24 at 21:39:14

I didn't mean to imply anyone had mounted a sidecar to the swingarm
with that in mind read my post again.

Title: Re: It looks like I will be getting a sidecar for
Post by blod on 12/14/24 at 03:33:38

594A5D5C434E484A411E2F0 wrote:

I didn't mean to imply anyone had mounted a sidecar to the swingarm
with that in mind read my post again.

I would like to see that report, and especially pictures.

Title: Re: It looks like I will be getting a sidecar for
Post by ThumperPaul on 12/14/24 at 05:40:18

I can’t wait to see this! The dog in the 2nd photo ready to hop in! :)

I’m not sure how you intend to ride it, but I’d consider a big brake kit for up front. Stopping distance is already lackluster over 50mph without the added weight of a sidecar. Uphill in 5th gear could also pose some challenges (heck, just use 4th).

Where’s the muffler gunna go so the passenger doesn’t die from carbon monoxide asphyxiation? Minor details…lol

Git er dun! I wanna see this!

Title: Re: It looks like I will be getting a sidecar for
Post by blod on 12/14/24 at 07:05:22

536F726A7762755766726B070 wrote:

I don't intend to ride it, only drive it. As for the front brake it would not bother me if it did not have one at all. As for the hills there are none to speak of for many miles, I live in the prairies. The exhaust will be the same as any other motorcycle 8-)

PS it's still not a certainty that I will get it. I can't get a shipping quote till Monday at the earliest.

Title: Re: It looks like I will be getting a sidecar for
Post by ohiomoto on 12/14/24 at 16:55:43

56585B50340 wrote:

[quote author=594A5D5C434E484A411E2F0 link=1734131653/0#3 date=1734154754]I didn't mean to imply anyone had mounted a sidecar to the swingarm
with that in mind read my post again.

I would like to see that report, and especially pictures. [/quote]-------------------

No sidecar, but my swingarm cracked.

http://https://suzukisavage.com/yabb2.2/Attachments/PXL_20210715_012141240_2.jpg

Here is the thread: https://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1624400028

And here is an older one regarding sidecars: http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1242156051

PS, I drive my cars but ride my motorcycles and bicycles. IDK, driving things with two wheels is like driving a horse in my book. But you have a third wheel... ;)

Title: Re: It looks like I will be getting a sidecar for
Post by ThumperPaul on 12/14/24 at 17:00:26

696E6F696B697269060 wrote:

[quote author=56585B50340 link=1734131653/0#4 date=1734176018][quote author=594A5D5C434E484A411E2F0 link=1734131653/0#3 date=1734154754]I didn't mean to imply anyone had mounted a sidecar to the swingarm
with that in mind read my post again.

I would like to see that report, and especially pictures. [/quote]-------------------

No sidecar, but my swingarm cracked.

http://https://suzukisavage.com/yabb2.2/Attachments/PXL_20210715_012141240_2.jpg

Here is the thread: https://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1624400028

And here is an older one regarding sidecars: http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1242156051[/quote]

Ohiomoto - I have a good swingarm if you want it... Free just pay the shipping to you. Whoops - just read the other post... you had a spare already. good deal.

Title: Re: It looks like I will be getting a sidecar for
Post by blod on 12/14/24 at 19:29:52

Bloody hell !

I think I will be keeping an eye on the swinging arm with or without a sidecar.

Thanks for the details.

Title: Re: It looks like I will be getting a sidecar for
Post by blod on 12/16/24 at 10:42:33

I just discovered that DMC Sidecars in Texas make mounts for the Suzuki Savage, there is a 6 week waiting period before they ship , and they want the money up front. The good news is that they only cost $950 ! LOL. I asked them for pics of what I would be getting but they refused, saying that if they sent pics people would use them to make their own,. I wonder why lol ;D.

I will build my own for $100 or under. I have done it before the hard way, experience has shown me I was wasting my time. I can do a much neater and stronger job by welding directly to the frame, making sidecar removal and re attachment fast and easy.

Title: Re: It looks like I will be getting a sidecar for
Post by verslagen1 on 12/16/24 at 11:30:52

we want pics ;)

Title: Re: It looks like I will be getting a sidecar for
Post by blod on 12/16/24 at 12:19:02

140710110E0305070C53620 wrote:

we want pics ;)

I will post pics but don't expect everything to happen quickly. I still don't have the sidecar, but I have accepted the shipping quote and told the seller I will be taking it.

I will be keeping the little battery on the bike rather than having a big one in the sidecar trunk. It makes it easy to separate the sidecar from the bike, I just need a push fit connector on the bike for the sidecar lights.

All being well I should be able to separate the bike from the sidecar and put it back again in about 20 minutes.

Title: Re: It looks like I will be getting a sidecar for
Post by blod on 12/21/24 at 07:45:53

I don't think the seller wants to ship the sidecar now, oh well, $hit happens but I'm far from beaten.

Just found this in China.... $2100 FOB complete with the 200 cc bike. And it's a great sidecar ! It's virtually identical to the one I had until recently.

http://https://i.imgur.com/soMjc0xh.jpg

http://https://i.imgur.com/ZENRSjPh.jpg

These are not certified for importation into North America, But I have a cunning plan ! 8-)

Title: Re: It looks like I will be getting a sidecar for
Post by ThumperPaul on 12/21/24 at 12:04:31

Pretty cool. Will Canada let you import it from China?

I used to import little 49cc 2-stroke dirt bikes from China thru Alibaba. I could get those into the States without a problem, but anything bigger or street bike, was a big no way! Oh yeah, I did get a handful of 125cc dirt bikes into the country. Grandson still has one (beat to heck, but it still runs).

Title: Re: It looks like I will be getting a sidecar for
Post by blod on 12/21/24 at 14:04:37

122E332B3623341627332A460 wrote:

That sidecar weighs 275 lbs, it is what I would call substantial. I can get the sidecar for not a lot of money.

As sidecars are not classed as vehicles here they are unregulated.

I can get them to send me a black one which would suit the Savage better.

If I'm happy with it I will get a second one for my other bike.

I'm amazed at how China has got industrialized and modernized, the things they make now and the quality is excellent.

Title: Re: It looks like I will be getting a sidecar for
Post by ThumperPaul on 12/21/24 at 16:28:19

When you said "with 200cc bike", I thought you were talk about the entire bike w/sidecar.

We could probably get just the sidecar here too. "Machine parts"....

Yeah, 275lbs is definitely a substanial load!

Go for it!

Title: Re: It looks like I will be getting a sidecar for
Post by blod on 12/21/24 at 19:23:11

685449514C594E6C5D49503C0 wrote:

Yes I was talking about the entire motorcycle combination. Both the sidecar and the bike. The bike even has reverse gear and EFI but it's the sidecar I'm interested in.

That is the best designed sidecar of all time, I think they are faultless.

I wonder how much hassle it would be to get it certified ?

http://https://i.imgur.com/KVt0jtBh.jpg

http://https://i.imgur.com/RH0F2chh.jpg