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Message started by WebsterMark on 12/01/24 at 17:19:46

Title: Beg your pardon.
Post by WebsterMark on 12/01/24 at 17:19:46


So wait, political prosecutions do happen?

Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by WebsterMark on 12/01/24 at 17:51:56

And the pardon goes back 10 years. Why 10 years? Cause you gotta cover all those years when the Biden crime family was raking in all that Ukrainian cash, that’s why.

Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by MnSpring on 12/01/24 at 17:52:10


1C2E29383F2E39062A39204B0 wrote:
So wait, political prosecutions do happen?


Where did you hear that ?

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by WebsterMark on 12/01/24 at 18:09:09

“I am sitting here with my father and we would like to understand why the commitment made has not been fulfilled. Tell the director that I would like to resolve this now before it gets out of hand, and now means tonight. And, Z, if I get a call or text from anyone involved in this other than you, Zhang, or the chairman, I will make certain that between the man sitting next to me and every person he knows and my ability to forever hold a grudge that you will regret not following my direction. I am sitting here waiting for the call with my father.”

Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by WebsterMark on 12/01/24 at 19:33:11

Does he pardon his brother next? His wife? If I’m the lawyer who handled splitting the money up, I’m demanding my pardon or I’m spilling the beans.

Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by WebsterMark on 12/01/24 at 19:46:17

And maybe Puddinhead pardons Trump and says he’s doing this to stop politicizing the DOJ. (Never mind he started it…)

Fools would hang their hat on that and keep the fantasy that Biden’s an honest and decent person.


Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by Serowbot on 12/02/24 at 07:16:38

Hey pot,... meet kettle :-?

Trump chooses Jared Kushner's father for ambassador to France
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0qdq9z7pjzo
Trump pardoned Mr Kushner during his first term, waving away a federal conviction in 2020.

I'm sure Trump won't pardon himself though
SCOTUS already did that

Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by WebsterMark on 12/02/24 at 07:27:15

Blah, blah, blah……Trump, Trump, Trump….

As dirt as you IMAGINE Trump is, Biden actually is twice as dirty.  

Deal with that fact.

Actually, just accept it so you can move forward. As I’ve always said, I know exactly who Donald Trump is. He’s far from perfect and has his share of skeletons in the closet but certainly not the criminal, fascist Nazi the ridiculous leftist freaks think he is. And other than being clever enough to extort millions his entire time in public service, I don’t think Biden is any worse than most major politicians. maybe just a little bit more successful.

Just accept the reality that Biden stole the diamonds and he’s probably gonna get away with it.

Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by WebsterMark on 12/02/24 at 07:29:08


5F495E435B4E43582C0 wrote:
Hey pot,... meet kettle :-?

Trump chooses Jared Kushner's father for ambassador to France
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0qdq9z7pjzo
Trump pardoned Mr Kushner during his first term, waving away a federal conviction in 2020.

I'm sure Trump won't pardon himself though
SCOTUS already did that


And seriously, I would’ve thought you were smart enough to know Scotus did no such thing. All they did was acknowledge the history that Presidents are 100% immune when conducting official acts. They then sent the case back to the lower court to determine if the acts in question were official or not. They didn’t do anything extreme or unusual.

Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by Serowbot on 12/02/24 at 10:20:47


093B3C2D2A3B2C133F2C355E0 wrote:
Blah, blah, blah……Trump, Trump, Trump….

34 felony convictions
Sexual assault and defamation to the tune of $8o million
Donald Trump must pay $354 million in fraud damages.

Blah blah????

Hunter paid his tax debt off
Will Trump?

Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by WebsterMark on 12/02/24 at 11:00:26


3422352830252833470 wrote:
[quote author=093B3C2D2A3B2C133F2C355E0 link=1733102386/0#7 date=1733153235]Blah, blah, blah……Trump, Trump, Trump….

34 felony convictions
Sexual assault and defamation to the tune of $8o million
Donald Trump must pay $354 million in fraud damages.

Blah blah????

Hunter paid his tax debt off
Will Trump?[/quote]

So Hunter was prosecuted because of his last name but Trump wasn’t?



Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by MnSpring on 12/02/24 at 15:58:03


382E39243C29243F4B0 wrote:
" ...  Hunter paid his tax debt off ..."

And AGAIN,
who TOLD YOU to say that ??????

It was Morris that paid. !!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by Eegore on 12/02/24 at 16:41:49

 I'm pretty sure, and this is an opinion for anyone incapable of understanding what an opinion is, that Trump supporters will complain that Biden pardoned his son, but would not complain if Trump pardoned his own children.

 Equally, and to be clear, this is also an opinion for anyone incapable of understanding what an opinion is, Biden supporters would complain if Trump pardoned his children, but would not complain when Biden pardoned his son.

 It's understandable if the guy you like does it, and a travesty of justice if the guy you don't like does it.  This is also an opinion for anyone incapable of understanding what an opinion is.

 Why would anyone expect any politician to avoid a pardon on their own family?

Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by MnSpring on 12/02/24 at 17:46:27


5777757D6077120 wrote:
"... Why would anyone expect any politician to avoid a pardon on their own family?


Because, he SAID, he would not !!!!!!!


Over and Over and Over !!!!!

"...July last year, shortly after Hunter Biden’s no-jail plea agreement imploded in court, the White House clarified the president’s stance against a pardon. ..."

"...Biden administration officials said president would not pardon son Hunter 11 different times..."

"...White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre first said the president would not pardon his son on July 27, 2023 — the day after his plea deal in the tax case collapsed. ..."

"... Biden had long said he would not pardon his son, including in an interview with ABC's David Muir ..."

"...Biden says he won’t pardon Hunter Biden or commute his sentence ..."


(That was NOT a 'Opinion',
        it is a FACT !)


Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by WebsterMark on 12/02/24 at 18:29:30


1C3C3E362B3C590 wrote:
 I'm pretty sure, and this is an opinion for anyone incapable of understanding what an opinion is, that Trump supporters will complain that Biden pardoned his son, but would not complain if Trump pardoned his own children.

 Equally, and to be clear, this is also an opinion for anyone incapable of understanding what an opinion is, Biden supporters would complain if Trump pardoned his children, but would not complain when Biden pardoned his son.

 It's understandable if the guy you like does it, and a travesty of justice if the guy you don't like does it.  This is also an opinion for anyone incapable of understanding what an opinion is.

 Why would anyone expect any politician to avoid a pardon on their own family?


I wouldn’t and never expected him to do otherwise. I expect he’ll issue pardons to his brother and others.

Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by WebsterMark on 12/03/24 at 03:52:57

I’m tired of hearing about this pardon already.

Look, had he pardoned him for the specific crimes he was about to be sentenced on this week I think there would’ve been no significant complaint. Sure the usual people would’ve complained but it would’ve died out relatively quickly. The reason this pardon is exceptional because it goes back and includes any and all crimes committed the previous 10 years. it’s obvious to anyone who follows the news why that time frame was selected.

I expect Biden will latch onto someone’s comment that James, his brother should be prosecuted and maybe Jill, etc. and he’ll use that as the basis to issue blank pardons for them as well.

Again, if I was the head of a crime organization that extorted (stole) millions of dollars and I had the power to pardon all my accomplices, of course I would, especially my family members.

Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by JOG on 12/03/24 at 04:00:05

No more fifth amendment. Swear them in,ask them questions. Perjury carries penalties.
What a great way to Prove some things.

Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by JOG on 12/03/24 at 13:08:21

Nothing verifies the validity of The Laptop quite like the time span of the pardon.

Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by MnSpring on 12/03/24 at 13:40:18


5F6A79617A7D796A7C180 wrote:
Nothing verifies the validity of The Laptop quite like the time span of the pardon.


A-YEP !!!

Even Hoover didn't attempt the,
C.Y.A., on the scale Biden did.

'Russia - Russia - Russia'

'Send the SS to STEAL the Proof'



Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by JOG on 12/06/24 at 05:56:02

http://https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgI1LN8-fO2zVw4wM5p3nWIS03OdjyX5eHgx7LOlxgE5ypfJBM6hhS05SyADKsbPKq0x2WSil0ZkIwtH7WZkyk3dDkdDcNMHexNkgWbeS-0bkTLnuMVx_98oDLKhYyeo9mSk4aVBNXNaSP5rVgz8xhQUpqzKV6EnlobcnhgbhHGC9uXturzBUn0Jq51r7k/s816/Screenshot%202024-12-05%20at%203.47.14%E2%80%AFPM.png

Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by MnSpring on 12/06/24 at 06:31:54

Just AW-SUM !!!!!!

Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by Serowbot on 12/06/24 at 07:17:21


4174677F6463677462060 wrote:
No more fifth amendment. Swear them in,ask them questions. Perjury carries penalties.
What a great way to Prove some things.

Trump and Jr plead the 5th 500 times each  :-X

Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by JOG on 12/06/24 at 09:21:16

You don't get it.
Once pardoned, you Can't incriminate yourself. You Can't use the fifth.
After watching the lying prosecutors, anyone Not using the fifth is suicidal.
Gonna be some law license burning before this is over.
Jakkass Smith has walked away. And the fatuglybich is over a barrel.
What they tried to do needs punishment.

Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by WebsterMark on 12/08/24 at 04:13:10

Joe pardoned his son to protect himself and his son, that’s obvious and if you can’t admit, you’re allowing your loyalty to your blue team to take over, which is perfectly understandable.

The next step will be pardons for his brother and other business associates mentioned in James Comer’s reports. Probably Jill as well.

The tricky part will be how to do that without totally destroying any semblance of innocence. To do that, Joe could pardon dozens and perhaps even Trump himself as a way of moving forward. And some fools would believe that, at least in public speeches.

Bottom line is Joe Biden was one one the most corrupt politicians to grace  the national political stage for decades.

Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by MnSpring on 12/08/24 at 10:53:44

"... Bottom line is Joe Biden was one one the most corrupt politicians to grace  the national political stage for decades."

Believe he has also eclipsed Nixon.

Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by JOG on 12/08/24 at 11:20:46

Nixon was set up to take him out. He was a pretty decent guy.

Biden has to pardon his family. Money went to all of them.

Gotta wonder what the value is now for all of Hunter's art. And has he suddenly lost his inspiration and desire to be an artist? Since the Game is over, UhHuhh.

Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by WebsterMark on 12/11/24 at 05:13:03

Just read a good point and embarrassed I didn’t think of this before but is it true that previously, all pardons were for specific illegal acts?

What illegal act(s) was Joe Biden pardoning his son for all the way back to Jan 1, 2014?

Shouldn’t we know just what illegal act was committed?

Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by JOG on 12/11/24 at 05:57:12

http://https://johnsimonds.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/image-43.

https://johnsimonds.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/image-43.png

https://johnsimonds.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/image-43.png

Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by MnSpring on 12/11/24 at 06:49:43

"... Gotta wonder what the value is now for all of Hunter's art.  ..."

Not the first person to, 'Sell', something for a outrages price, just to cover up a a payment for something illegal.

(Which the UL, DFI, FDS, WOKE Socialists totally IGNORED)

They will be next to worthless, until years from now, when they become, 'One Of Those'.

Then in decades the FAKE ones with fake 'papers', will appear.

And the people that will buy the fake ones,
           will be,
UL, DFI, FDS, WOKE Socialists !

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D






Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by WebsterMark on 12/12/24 at 04:03:36

Puddinhead is working hard to deflect from protecting himself against prosecution by issuing a retroactive blanket pardon for his crime family member, Hunter.

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden is commuting the sentences of roughly 1,500 people who were released from prison and placed on home confinement during the coronavirus pandemic and is pardoning 39 Americans convicted of nonviolent crimes. It’s the largest single-day act of clemency in modern history.

The commutations announced Thursday are for people who have served out home confinement sentences for at least one year after they were released. Prisons were uniquely bad for spreading the virus and some inmates were released in part to stop the spread. At one point, 1 in 5 prisoners had COVID-19, according to a tally kept by The Associated Press.


Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by JOG on 12/12/24 at 05:28:25

http://https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgc_i6U4d4Rs9psIq6NNTqhq7TZKhzOqZ2cFhETOnHUZQYVL-rNmji9rAFQQDYTzqlM4YIs1h1jZGuhcmyFyrhKSjdEZLcPy4DNe4dYR_BQJ3xcPBYfIFeJkDEJRhvlvjC_oLlIQrkgu-vJLHGqdhbEKs2mBmTBaJjLtEQCMKBPVDS1eTvjj_J-EZTLav8/s800/img%20(29).jpg

Trump,, such a liar..

Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by MnSpring on 12/12/24 at 07:18:31

And AGAIN,
the UL, DFI, FDS, WOKE, Socialists
that control most of the big media.
actually expected people to believe that.

(But of course, the UL, DFI, FDS, WOKE Socialists, did)


It will take some time,
yet the UL, DFI, FDS, WOKE,
      Socialists
     will realize
They are NOT in charge.





Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by WebsterMark on 12/13/24 at 03:14:00

I think it’s a valid question to ask just exactly what was he being pardoned for that occurred in 2014?

Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by JOG on 12/13/24 at 04:01:36

The answer is in the laptop.

Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by thumperclone on 12/13/24 at 04:46:37

the feds witness admitted he lied

Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by JOG on 12/13/24 at 06:58:40

The laptop doesn't

Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by thumperclone on 12/13/24 at 09:10:52

beating a dead horse
no facts to prove the conspiracy theory you keep resurrecting
time to move on
get over it
concentrate on the dumpster fire starting to smolder in your upcoming administration

Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by thumperclone on 12/13/24 at 09:54:00


7B4E5D455E595D4E583C0 wrote:
The laptop doesn't



 the whole laptop theory is Russian propaganda

just like Hillary's cell phone nothing to see here

Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by JOG on 12/13/24 at 10:20:28

You know that is not right.

Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by thumperclone on 12/13/24 at 10:33:33

OHH yes I do
try some searches and just MAYBE you will see

Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by JOG on 12/13/24 at 11:16:01

The laptop is acknowledged as Hunter's. Even he doesn't deny it. You can have your own opinion, but the facts are just WTF they are. The 51 lying Intelligence Officers stating it was Bullschitt doesn't affect the reality of it.

Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by thumperclone on 12/13/24 at 11:42:03

the reality is it is Russian bullschitt
you are also entitled to your neanderthal opinion

Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by JOG on 12/13/24 at 14:57:15

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/verify/national-verify/hunter-bidens-laptop-what-we-can-verify/536-a41c9f05-c548-4681-a0be-a01fcc75b59d

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/verify/national-verify/hunter-bidens-laptop-what-we-can-verify/536-a41c9f05-c548-4681-a0be-a01fcc75b59d

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Updated 7:08 PM CST, June 5, 2024
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The latest: Follow the AP’s live updates from Hunter Biden’s criminal trial.

WILMINGTON, Del. (AP) — Hunter Biden’s ex-wife and a former girlfriend testified Wednesday in his gun trial about finding his crack pipes and other drug paraphernalia, and jurors saw photos of the president’s son bare-chested in a bubble bath and heard about his visit to a strip club.

As the first lady sat in the front row, the courtroom grew quiet when Kathleen Buhle, who was married to Hunter for 20 years, walked in. She testified that she discovered her husband was using drugs when she found a crack pipe in an ashtray on their porch on July 3, 2015, a day after their anniversary. When she confronted him, “he acknowledged smoking crack,” she said.

The trial, about whether he lied on a gun purchase form in 2018 when he said he wasn’t using drugs, has quickly become a highly personal and detailed tour of the mistakes and drug use of Hunter Biden, whose struggles have been tabloid fodder for years and were used publicly by Republicans, including in their stalled impeachment effort against the president.


“He told me,” she said.

Prosecutors also called Zoe Kestan, who testified under immunity about meeting Hunter Biden in December 2017 at a strip club in New York where she worked. During a private session, he pulled out a pipe and began smoking what she assumed was crack.

“He was incredibly charming and charismatic and friendly, and I felt really safe around him,” she said. “I remember after he had smoked it, nothing had changed. He was the same charming person.”

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Kestan detailed for jurors when she saw him use drugs, buy drugs, talk about drugs or possess drug paraphernalia. Prosecutors asked her where he stored his drugs and pipes, and she testified he kept them in pouches and other places, such as a sunglasses cases.

On cross-examination, Kestan acknowledged that she had no contact with him in October 2018, the period when he bought the gun.

Jurors were shown dozens of pages of Hunter Biden’s memoir, “Beautiful Things,” written in 2021 after he got sober. And they heard lengthy audio excerpts from the book, which traces his descent into addiction following the death of his brother, Beau Biden, in 2015 from cancer. The memoir covers the period he bought the gun, though it doesn’t mention the weapon specifically.

Lowell has said Hunter Biden’s state of mind was different when he wrote the book than when he purchased the gun, when he didn’t believe he had an addiction. And he’s suggested Hunter Biden might have felt he had a drinking problem at the time, not a drug problem. Alcohol abuse doesn’t preclude a gun purchase.

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The Delaware trial comes after the collapse of a plea deal with prosecutors that would have resolved the gun case and a separate California tax case. He’s now facing a separate trial in September on charges of failing to pay $1.4 million in taxes.

Hunter Biden has since pleaded not guilty and has said he’s being unfairly targeted by the Justice Department, after Republicans slammed the now-defunct plea agreement as a sweetheart deal for the Democratic president’s son.

In Congress, Republicans have for months pursued an impeachment inquiry seeking to tie President Biden to his son’s business dealings. So far, GOP lawmakers have failed to uncover evidence directly implicating President Biden in any wrongdoing. But on Wednesday, House Republicans accused Hunter and the president’s brother James Biden of making false statements to Congress as part of the inquiry.

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At his criminal trial, Hunter Biden’s personal messages have been shown as evidence, including some that came from a laptop he left at a Delaware repair shop and never retrieved. In 2020, the contents made their way to Republicans and were publicly leaked, revealing some highly personal messages about his work and his life — some that appeared in congressional hearings. He has since sued over the leaked information.

The information was deemed Good enough for trial, wasn't it?
You can do the search for truth.
I already know it.

https://nypost.com/2022/03/18/intelligence-experts-refuse-to-apologize-for-smearing-hunter-biden-story/

The truth hurts, dunnitt?
There's no Demand for retraction, because it's true.

Title: Re: Beg your pardon.
Post by thumperclone on 12/13/24 at 15:15:09

all that carp is outdated
welcome to today

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