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Title: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by JOG on 11/24/24 at 08:16:28 https://cairnsnews.org/2024/11/24/17000-doctors-call-for-halt-to-mrna-injections/ Trump needs to STFU about taking the jab. If he Hadn't cut the red tape and encouraged Big Pharma to get a vaccine on the market, every single Died from Covid death would have been His fault. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 11/24/24 at 08:30:03 Bad link, I can't fix it. The following is an opinion: This link is bad. It is my opinion that the link is bad. Repaired link: https://cairnsnews.org/2024/11/24/stop-lying-tga-17000-doctors-call-for-halt-to-mrna-injections/ It is a human opinion that the link is repaired. The previous sentence is a human opinion. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Serowbot on 11/24/24 at 08:52:26 I am currently in a medical study of MRNA vs regular flu shots Don't know which I got, but it pays $500 At my age it really don't matter that much I'm gonna' buy two kiddies cleft pallet surgery with the mad cash Amazing you can change a life for $230 bucks I know.... It's not for them, it's for me but how cool is that? just $230 bucks Gobsmacking Godly power for $230! :P :P :P |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by JOG on 11/24/24 at 08:54:15 IDK what happened. I found it, copied it again, tested it, so I'm going to paste it and see if it is different. https://cairnsnews.org/2024/11/24/stop-lying-tga-17000-doctors-call-for-halt-to-mrna-injections/ https://cairnsnews.org/2024/11/24/stop-lying-tga-17000-doctors-call-for-halt-to-mrna-injections/ |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by JOG on 11/24/24 at 08:55:53 1006110C14010C17630 wrote:
You have a good heart. I hope it goes well with you. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by MnSpring on 11/24/24 at 12:38:09 6C4C4E465B4C290 wrote:
Now that we all know your OPINION in making a link work. What is you, OPINION, of a bunch of Doctors, saying what was forbidden to say a couple of years ago ? |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 11/24/24 at 13:17:51 Now that we all know your OPINION in making a link work. It is a human opinion that the link is repaired. My opinion is the link is repaired. The previous sentence indicates a human opinion. What is you, OPINION, of a bunch of Doctors, saying what was forbidden to say a couple of years ago ? My opinion is that the research should be read before being commented on with accuracy. It is a human opinion that the linked research must be read. The previous sentence indicates a human opinion. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by MnSpring on 11/24/24 at 16:52:58 7656545C4156330 wrote:
Rather sure we all know now of your OPINION, on the repair of the link. 7656545C4156330 wrote:
Golly, sounds a lot like a statement, which infers the statement is inaccurate according to the research. "... that the research should be read before being commented on with accuracy. ..." A OPINION, would probably sound like: '... I Don't think the research was read before it was commented on ...' But hey, you do you ! |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 11/24/24 at 18:32:16 Rather sure we all know now of your OPINION, on the repair of the link. It is a human opinion that I am aware of the knowledge of all that I have an OPINION on a repaired link. The link is a URL. The previous sentence indicates a human opinion. Golly, sounds a lot like a statement, which infers the statement is inaccurate according to the research. You can infer that. I do not comment on the accuracy of any research I do not read. That would be nothing more than repeating what I am TOLD. It is a human opinion that a human infers the accuracy of a statement that sounds a lot like a statement. This is an opinion. The previous sentence implies a human opinion. A human can infer that an opinion is implied in the previous statement. This post is an opinion. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by MnSpring on 11/25/24 at 06:46:01 4767656D7067020 wrote:
Would expect you to say where the research can be found. (Then a statement to READ IT) Or the research was by ......, Or the research was flawed because ......, Or the research did not, include/exclude, ......' etc, etc, etc, “We must acknowledge that the Covid 19 genetic injections cause far more harm than good and provide zero benefit relative to risk for the young and healthy,” “They do not reduce Covid 19 infection, which is treatable and not terminal. Furthermore the most recent data demonstrates that you are more likely to become infected, or have disease or even death if you’ve been vaccinated, compared to the unvaccinated people. This is shocking to hear but this is what the data are showing us.” Perhaps you ave a OPINION on why, 17,000 Doctors, now, have stood up. When just a couple of years ago, they were told, Sit Down and Shut The |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 11/25/24 at 07:14:40 Would expect you to say where the research can be found. (Then a statement to READ IT) It an be found in JOG's link. It is a human opinion that the research can be found in JOG's link. A link is the URL provided in JOG's post. The URL link has been repaired. Or the research was by ......, That information has been made available to you in JOG's link. It is a human opinion that information has been made available in the repaired URL in JOG's link. Or the research was flawed because ......, Or the research did not, include/exclude, ......' etc, etc, etc, I would need to read it and have it verified first or I am doing nothing more than repeating what I am TOLD. I prefer to research the information before deciding if it is accurate. It is a human opinion that a human would need to read linked research before deciding accuracy. The previous sentence indicates a human opinion. Opinion is referenced here: o·pin·ion [ch601][ch712]piny([ch601])n] noun a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge: "I'm writing to voice my opinion on an issue of great importance" · "that, in my opinion, is dead right" Similar: belief judgment thought(s) school of thought the beliefs or views of a large number or majority of people about a particular thing: "the changing climate of opinion" (opinion of) an estimation of the quality or worth of someone or something: "I had a higher opinion of myself than I deserved" a formal statement of advice by an expert on a professional matter: "seeking a second opinion from a specialist" Perhaps you ave a OPINION on why, 17,000 Doctors, now, have stood up. When just a couple of years ago, they were told, Sit Down and Shut The crappity smack UP ! I do not. JOG's link does not verify 17,000 Doctors so I will have that done before I formulate an opinion. Instead of just repeating what I am TOLD. My assessment is the larger volumes of signed petition by medical providers have been consistent since 2020. It is a human opinion that a human assessment exists that larger volumes of signed petition(s) have been consistent since 2020 specific to medical providers. The previous sentence indicates an opinion. This post is an opinion. Opinion can be referenced below: o·pin·ion [ch601][ch712]piny([ch601])n] noun a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge: "I'm writing to voice my opinion on an issue of great importance" · "that, in my opinion, is dead right" Similar: belief judgment thought(s) school of thought the beliefs or views of a large number or majority of people about a particular thing: "the changing climate of opinion" (opinion of) an estimation of the quality or worth of someone or something: "I had a higher opinion of myself than I deserved" a formal statement of advice by an expert on a professional matter: "seeking a second opinion from a specialist" It is a human opinion that a reference for opinion is referenced in the previous sentence. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by TheBabyDerp on 11/25/24 at 08:09:16 I got the jab (just the 2 dose moderna) because my employer at the time paid me too. I just wanted beer money at the time and didn't follow much about the vaccine. I just hope it doesn't kill me, but it's been years, so I'm sure I'm fine. Definitely never getting a booster. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by MnSpring on 11/25/24 at 09:44:05 0121232B3621440 wrote:
Great. It what you do, the best ! |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 11/25/24 at 10:15:18 Great. It what you do, the best ! I am pretty great at not repeating blindly what I am TOLD. As I said, it is not uncommon for that many providers to petition without negative consequence there. Any reason you would want my OPINION before I research the data? You seem pretty hung up on that. It is a human opinion that one human is great at not repeating blindly what they are told. The previous sentence indicates a human opinion. Opinion is referenced here: o·pin·ion [ch601][ch712]piny([ch601])n] noun a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge: "I'm writing to voice my opinion on an issue of great importance" · "that, in my opinion, is dead right" Similar: belief judgment thought(s) school of thought the beliefs or views of a large number or majority of people about a particular thing: "the changing climate of opinion" (opinion of) an estimation of the quality or worth of someone or something: "I had a higher opinion of myself than I deserved" a formal statement of advice by an expert on a professional matter: "seeking a second opinion from a specialist" A human opinion exists that one human is hung up on another human's uneducated "OPINION". The previous sentence indicated a human opinion. Below is a reference for human opinion: o·pin·ion [ch601][ch712]piny([ch601])n] noun a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge: "I'm writing to voice my opinion on an issue of great importance" · "that, in my opinion, is dead right" Similar: belief judgment thought(s) school of thought the beliefs or views of a large number or majority of people about a particular thing: "the changing climate of opinion" (opinion of) an estimation of the quality or worth of someone or something: "I had a higher opinion of myself than I deserved" a formal statement of advice by an expert on a professional matter: "seeking a second opinion from a specialist" |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by MnSpring on 11/25/24 at 17:21:14 7A5A58504D5A3F0 wrote:
You do YOU, so well ! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 11/25/24 at 19:49:40 You do YOU, so well ! I do. It is a human opinion that a human does YOU so well. The previous sentence indicates an human opinion. Reference for human opinion: o·pin·ion [ch601][ch712]piny([ch601])n] noun a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge: "I'm writing to voice my opinion on an issue of great importance" · "that, in my opinion, is dead right" Similar: belief judgment thought(s) school of thought the beliefs or views of a large number or majority of people about a particular thing: "the changing climate of opinion" (opinion of) an estimation of the quality or worth of someone or something: "I had a higher opinion of myself than I deserved" a formal statement of advice by an expert on a professional matter: "seeking a second opinion from a specialist" The previous reference indicates this post is a human opinion. My Observed Reality is that the government there is less active in suppressing medical opinion. It is an opinion that a government is less active in suppressing medical opinion. Reference for opinion follows: o·pin·ion [ch601][ch712]piny([ch601])n] noun a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge: "I'm writing to voice my opinion on an issue of great importance" · "that, in my opinion, is dead right" Similar: belief judgment thought(s) school of thought the beliefs or views of a large number or majority of people about a particular thing: "the changing climate of opinion" (opinion of) an estimation of the quality or worth of someone or something: "I had a higher opinion of myself than I deserved" a formal statement of advice by an expert on a professional matter: "seeking a second opinion from a specialist" This post indicates a human opinion. Reference for human opinion: o·pin·ion [ch601][ch712]piny([ch601])n] noun a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge: "I'm writing to voice my opinion on an issue of great importance" · "that, in my opinion, is dead right" Similar: belief judgment thought(s) school of thought the beliefs or views of a large number or majority of people about a particular thing: "the changing climate of opinion" (opinion of) an estimation of the quality or worth of someone or something: "I had a higher opinion of myself than I deserved" a formal statement of advice by an expert on a professional matter: "seeking a second opinion from a specialist" This post is an opinion. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by JOG on 11/25/24 at 20:01:21 T.L.D.R. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Needles on 12/02/24 at 08:24:36 https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/covid-vax-deaths-vs-covid-deaths/ |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/02/24 at 12:00:05 https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/covid-vax-deaths-vs-covid-deaths/ Anyone that can do basic math would Observe that with Billions vaccinated at this point, if the vaccine was killing more than actual Covid we'd have Hundreds of Millions dead by now. But if we refuse to Observe it, then that Observed Reality there are millions upon millions of dead. Insurance companies said so. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Alzuki on 12/02/24 at 19:33:54 Interesting conversation! Questions: Didn't the insurance companies observe a bigger spike in deaths AFTER the vaccines were rolled out? And didn't undertakers everywhere pull huge and unnatural clots out of the dead, again, after the jab? And didn't hundreds of young fit athletes drop dead of post-jab myocarditis? Aren't all these unprecedented? I won't try to answer these questions here. I would only humbly suggest that, where the data exists but is being ignored, these questions, and others like them, need a lot more than snopes to settle them. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/02/24 at 21:18:45 Questions: Didn't the insurance companies observe a bigger spike in deaths AFTER the vaccines were rolled out? No, but lying headlines said so. Once the data was looked into it was nothing more than UK mortality rates with an altered chart headline. Life Insurance companies do not require, or even ask for, the vaccination status of those they pay for, so that metric is pretty much impossible for them to know. And didn't undertakers everywhere pull huge and unnatural clots out of the dead, again, after the jab? No. "Everywhere" however is a term that is undefined for this conversation. There was an increase in clots, but not broadly reported in the US. The clot percentage increase was higher, but the overall percentage of clots in overall deceased was low. It's definitely an issue, but nowhere near 1.3 million per year as was repeatedly posted here. One has to take into account the increase in autopsies, how many existed that were never found? And didn't hundreds of young fit athletes drop dead of post-jab myocarditis? Aren't all these unprecedented? Not that are documented very well if it did happen. Heart complications has been the number one killer in youth due to health issues for decades. This is conveniently overlooked when addressed by vaccine alarmists. Also hundreds of MRI's done in 2019 on college athletes showed heart inflammation among many athletes, this also, somehow, was is blamed on the vaccine - even on this forum I've been asked why those MRI scans "don't' apply" to vaccine deaths. The myocarditis increase appears to be mostly from Moderna in males under 40. What I would look for given hundreds of kids supposedly died is where are these dead kids families, school memorials in yearbooks, obituaries, medical records, etc. There's not many, if any, communities reporting an influx of dead kids, which I would expect to see if there were hundreds of kids dying. The real numbers are hard to pin down, there never has been a universal reporting system. Was there an increase? Very likely, but not so much that it can be easily calculated, thus the abundance of exaggerated or lying metrics. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by zevenenergie on 12/03/24 at 03:25:21 6E4E4C44594E2B0 wrote:
you can pretend that there were no abuses with the official registration of covid deaths. But I do not participate in denial and do not let myself be intimidated by so-called official data. Because among them were also many people who died from the side effects and from the treatment itself. At the time, much that turned out to be disadvantageous to the vaccine was written off as a cause of death due to covid. But people who died of flu were also added to the covid deaths in order to inflate the figures in order to sell the vaccine. And let us not forget that there was already a patent for the covid vaccine on the shelf well before the covid period. And that there was an action plan ready in case of a major epidemic (all arranged by the globalist movement) And let's talk about the 1000 other abuses surrounding covid. If you then look at the mass intimidation of both the medical world and the population, then you can safely speak of the crime of the century. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by WebsterMark on 12/03/24 at 03:44:20 Two things can be true at the same time. 1) The Covid vaccine did not cause a significant increase in death strictly due to the effects of the Covid vaccine. (Define signifiant, however, you want to define it, but you have to justify your definition. 2) There was and continues to be, an unknown number of deaths of people who died WITH Covid, (those who would have died anyway) as opposed to DUE TO Covid. As such, the exact number of deaths caused strictly by Covid will never be known, it can only be estimated. How accurately (and your definition of accuracy) is the question. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/03/24 at 06:11:47 you can pretend that there were no abuses with the official registration of covid deaths. So can you. I never said, or used, Official registration of Covid deaths in my assessments. That won't stop people from lying and saying that I did though, even after admitting they never even bothered to look at any of it. Because among them were also many people who died from the side effects and from the treatment itself. At the time, much that turned out to be disadvantageous to the vaccine was written off as a cause of death due to covid. The problem here is the reliability of such data. Your "proof" of graphene in the vaccine is an example. The only remotely reliable method is to look at rates of death, overall, before and after the vaccine. But for some reason some members say the numbers before the vaccine "doesn't matter". Really? There are more deaths after, but we don't use "before" to calculate that? 1+1=2, but in this case we are to believe ???+1=Millions dead. And let us not forget that there was already a patent for the covid vaccine on the shelf well before the covid period. Misleading. There were MRNA patents but no Covid19 specific patents. The "patent race" for the C-19 specific vaccine is very well documented and studied. One of the components of that is the multiple lying articles chopping up other patents and falsely adding in Covid 19 to the phrasing. And that there was an action plan ready in case of a major epidemic (all arranged by the globalist movement) Of course there was. There have been action plans for mass disease mitigation since the 30's. Technically since the Black Plague. People will try to make money on it. And let's talk about the 1000 other abuses surrounding covid. And also the abuses of blatantly lying sources of the vaccine like "proof" of graphene in the vaccine that was nothing more than a description of a slide on an electron microscope, or the 8 Million dead kids in 2021, the millions of miscarriages, thousands of disabled military per-day, Comirnaty as a compound not a name, mass FEMA executions, human burn pits, vaccines causing spontaneous combustion, etc, etc. Abuse is on both sides. We have to filter the lies on both ends. Instead I see a lot of one-sided scrutiny. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/03/24 at 06:21:52 Two things can be true at the same time. Are you sure? There's some members here that don't seem to grasp that concept. 1) The Covid vaccine did not cause a significant increase in death strictly due to the effects of the Covid vaccine. (Define signifiant, however, you want to define it, but you have to justify your definition. 2) There was and continues to be, an unknown number of deaths of people who died WITH Covid, (those who would have died anyway) as opposed to DUE TO Covid. As such, the exact number of deaths caused strictly by Covid will never be known, it can only be estimated. How accurately (and your definition of accuracy) is the question. Agreed. There's bias on both ends for sure. The problem I have is lying that the CDC "said" to code deaths a certain way when they never did. That's emotional reinforcement, not truth. Acknowledging the truth of what the CDC guidance really says does not mean there was no abuse of statistics. But some humans fail to understand that they can be lied to about what the CDC guidance is, and also, the coding methods can be abused to skew reported numbers. They will argue this for years but never use the actual CDC documents as evidence, which should say something right there. The reporting methods are poor all around (Official metrics and also VAERS for instance) because of all the variables of classifying death and the zero verification of many reports. So we have to calculate the percentages of confirmed deaths and see what those demographics are. Is there a higher percentage of dead kids after vaccinations? Adults 18-30? 30-40? etc. That is at least verifiable and a decent start. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by zevenenergie on 12/03/24 at 09:15:20 And let us not forget that there was already a patent for the covid vaccine on the shelf well before the covid period. Misleading. There were MRNA patents but no Covid19 specific patents. The "patent race" for the C-19 specific vaccine is very well documented and studied. One of the components of that is the multiple lying articles chopping up other patents and falsely adding in Covid 19 to the phrasing. I looked it up: The COVID-19 pandemic officially began in December 2019, when an unusual lung disease was noted in the city of Wuhan, China. The World Health Organization (WHO) declared the outbreak a pandemic on March 11, 2020. Origin of SARS-CoV-2: There is no conclusive evidence that the SARS-CoV-2 virus (COVID-19) existed in a laboratory before the outbreak. Most scientists believe that the virus was transmitted from nature (probably from bats) to humans, possibly via an intermediary such as another animal (for example, a wild animal traded in a market in Wuhan). However, there has been much speculation about the possibility of a lab leak, especially around the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which is known for its research on coronaviruses in bats. However, no direct evidence has been found that SARS-CoV-2 accidentally escaped from a laboratory. The majority of scientists believe it is more likely that the virus was transmitted to humans via a natural route. Of course, these are purely the data that have been presented via official channels. And why should we doubt the globalist movement (black rock) that is not only government but also big pharma. ::) My position is that covid was among other things an exercise in obedience and a means to adjust laws and give NGOs a stronger legal basis as policy prescribers for governments and also to give those governments more power over the people. Which, by the way, has been perfectly successful. I almost forgot, Normally it takes 10 to 15 years for a vaccine to come to market. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by zevenenergie on 12/03/24 at 09:38:15 Part of the thousand other questionable things: http://https://i.imgur.com/UYw3V3hm.png Hot off the press. https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/12.04.2024-SSCP-FINAL-REPORT.pdf This is the first comment in this government report: http://https://i.imgur.com/pE1HU6gl.png This hole report is of course meant to close the case and not to reveal how deep the rabbit hole is. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/03/24 at 10:41:16 I looked it up: And presented nothing that addresses the portion of my post you quoted. I almost forgot, Normally it takes 10 to 15 years for a vaccine to come to market. Come to market is not equal to patent existing. Your claim is the patent for the vaccine existed before "the covid period". None of your response addresses this . MRNA patents existed, not the "covid vaccine on the shelf" as you put it. There is no evidence, including what you posted here, that shows the "on the shelf" covid vaccine was patented "well before" Covid19 existed. this should be very easy to prove. Simply pull any of the hundreds of thousands of internet archives, which by the way was done many times. There is no patent evidence except those that were altered. And that right there is the problem. Using an unrelated real issue, like exercise in obedience to also claim completely false information is true. The willingness to repeat lies online is also an experiment in obedience. Your response is also an example of one-sided scrutiny of evidence. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by zevenenergie on 12/03/24 at 11:12:14 you have not watched an alternative news channel in your entire life. but only listen to the official channels. And you do not look at the links. has historiy proven, so what do you expect from me? That I will spend hours searching to find out what big tech is hiding as much as possible on the internet. No thanks I have better things to do. The above that I have shards comes from official channels and is already enough indication for someone who is all-round read. Unfortunately your opinion is one-sided. Good luck with it. You are already a dinausar. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by zevenenergie on 12/03/24 at 12:06:42 btw I had to watch police academy one after this discussion to remember why I love america.(so much) |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by zevenenergie on 12/03/24 at 13:26:38 I,m at 2 now. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/03/24 at 13:27:16 you have not watched an alternative news channel in your entire life. but only listen to the official channels. You have no idea what resources I use. And you do not look at the links. has historiy proven, so what do you expect from me? Incorrect, I actually read through hundreds of pages of documentation you provided, had two other teams do it and run it through multiple AI reads. You said the "proof" must be somewhere else after claiming multiple times it was in the documentation you provided. Explain how I quote the sources if I'm not looking at them. That I will spend hours searching to find out what big tech is hiding as much as possible on the internet. No thanks I have better things to do. I find it implausible that a Covid vaccine patent existed and "Big Tech" eradicated it before anyone could snapshot it. There is no evidence that a patent existed. The only explanation is somebody erased it from all known sources on the planet, which by the way is an explanation for literally anything there is no evidence for. I think there is no evidence of a pre-existing patent - you act like I am saying there is no corruption on the planet. I agreed that Covid has indications of being created in a lab, and that multiple governments blatantly abused the impact. I think both pro-vaccine and also anti-vaccine sources will lie. So instead of blindly believing one over the other I just use the evidence that is available to me. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by JOG on 12/03/24 at 13:37:55 actually read through hundreds of pages of documentation you provided, had two other teams do it and run it through multiple AI reads. You said the "proof" must be somewhere else after claiming multiple times it was in the documentation you provided. That someone would invest so many resources to control the direction of a conversation on such a tiny little forum is just weird. The motivation,? Why is it so important as to use so many resources? Is the objective to find the truth? |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/03/24 at 14:00:30 That someone would invest so many resources to control the direction of a conversation on such a tiny little forum is just weird. It's to be accurate, not to control the direction of a conversation. Knowing what a document says can't change what another human will say, so it's implausible to think knowledge would alter the statements of another and control the conversation. Besides providing an accurate assessment of a document that was read for you has never controlled the direction of anything. Instead of blindly believing what I am told because it sounds right, I will instead look at the information and verify. My job is based on accuracy, when we fail people die. None of these actions are because of this tiny forum. This forum is just one of multiple resources. The motivation,? Why is it so important as to use so many resources? Accuracy. Two blind teams examining the information but not knowing why will be more accurate than one looking for specific information. Using AI allows us to create hallucination metrics, and predict how soon it will start to self-consume. Also it will be more accurate as it won't accidentally skip a word. All of this is tremendously useful. Is the objective to find the truth? Yes. It just takes work sometimes. Also it's good practice. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by JOG on 12/03/24 at 14:07:15 Who pays for all of that? |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/03/24 at 14:16:06 "Who pays for all of that?" I do. However my income is from multiple sources as a contractor, so technically a lot of other people do. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by JOG on 12/03/24 at 14:24:24 And the Instructions as they do The Job are what? I'll cut to the chase I don't trust you. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/03/24 at 14:27:37 And the Instructions as they do The Job are what? Depends on the job. If its reading a document then the Instructions are to read the document, create an outline and list unknown terms. I'll cut to the chase I don't trust you. That's obvious. You have been calling me a liar for years. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by JOG on 12/03/24 at 14:32:43 Just wanted to be clear |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/03/24 at 16:15:03 Just wanted to be clear Your statement about "controlling the conversation" makes some of it more clear. I'm not sure how accurately assessing the content of a document, that we were all lied to about by the way, can control another human's words. To me that's just weird. I mean have you ever reconsidered your approach to a vaccine-related topic because a group of people analyzed a document? Seems very unlikely. For instance the graphene document "proof" is a never ending argument about the circled words in the document itself, on this forum. The exact same document, and claim of "proof" on another forum resulted in a lengthy examination into the plausibility of concealing graphene in a fluid medium. On that forum people accepted the claim was a lie and simply moved on. Also on that forum I was the anti-vax conspiracy theorist because I think it's completely reasonable to look into the vaccine components because we were most likely lied to about them and they lacked the normal trials. We will never get that far here because the conversation will never pass the point of acknowledging the "proof" claim is inaccurate - that we were lied to. The difference is on this forum some people just can't grasp the idea that the claim in that specific document that graphene was found in the vaccine is a lie, and also the vaccine can be dangerous. It's like if one admits that the "proof" document about graphene was a lie, then that can only mean the vaccine is safe. That's weird to me. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by JOG on 12/03/24 at 16:22:36 I think you want to discount all of something because of some flaws. It's not like everything is a mathematical equation and discovering a mistake anywhere makes the answer incorrect. In dealing with reality, there are general Directions of being correct. Generally, in spite of some fallacies, incorrect statements, there is an underlying truth. And you seem to want to call it Nothing, like Observed Reality, which everyone uses. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/03/24 at 16:34:06 I think you want to discount all of something because of some flaws. I get that but I fail at communicating that I can think the vaccine is unsafe to certain demographics, and also, the graphene claims have no evidence to support them. I've never once said the vaccine is "safe" or "effective". I just think certain batch numbers have no direct nexus to human harm. It's not like everything is a mathematical equation and discovering a mistake anywhere makes the answer incorrect. I agree. However when the claims are using math and it is so blatantly impossible are they actually in the Direction of being correct, or just B.S. spouted on social media? I prefer to acknowledge when I am being lied to and question the legitimacy of the general argument - much like the Car tariffs video we looked at. Would you agree that Tariff discussion is good, but we need to leave that guy's nonsense 100% figures out of it? And by leaving those numbers out we aren't saying anything close to "Tariffs are good and effective"? And you seem to want to call it Nothing, like Observed Reality, which everyone uses. Observed reality is fundamentally flawed as we can selectively Observe things (bias) and people can Observe the same thing and interpret it two, or fifty, different ways. Two people witness a car wreck and you wouldn't believe how different those Observations are. As i tried to communicate with the rallies: Harris supporters Observed higher rally numbers for Harris, online etc. So their Observed reality was the exact opposite of yours. How can that be a standard for accurate evaluations? Somebody's Observed reality there has to be objectively wrong. Right? |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by blod on 12/03/24 at 20:24:08 6444464E5344210 wrote:
............................................................................................. I think you are correct about that, but the sudden deaths and severe injuries speak for themselves. It's plain to see a depopulation scheme is underway. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/03/24 at 20:29:43 I think you are correct about that, but the sudden deaths and severe injuries speak for themselves. It's plain to see a depopulation scheme is underway. I disagree. I've not personally seen a substantial increase in verifiable deaths. I've seen tons of claims, but the absence of any local obituaries, medical centers, school yearbooks, sporting teams, sports enrollments etc. leads me to believe the mass deaths are most likely not happening. This doesn't mean the vaccine is safe and effective, it only means I see no records or signs of mass deaths post-vaccine. For instance none of the local sports teams have noticed team shortages, no schools have reduced enrollments so I'm not sure where all these dead kids are. Are you in an area where there are actual obituaries, or schools/businesses claiming lowered staffing due to fatalities? |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by blod on 12/03/24 at 21:32:29 7B5B59514C5B3E0 wrote:
I live 10 miles away from a small town in Saskatchewan where the population is low. What makes the town different than most is that it has a hospital, and is where my wife works, she has many sad examples of vaccine damage. but I will only tell you of what I have witnessed myself. within a five mile radius of where I live. I live near Bateman Saskatchewan, a town which used to be vibrant but now has a population of just 2 people. ( It was like that before the 2018 ) All of my near neighbors families are suffering with vaccine injuries and one death. The person to die was a 26 year old in perfect physical shape. The family had to fight the health authorities tooth and nail to get an autopsy. The result confirmed that it was a "rare " side effect of the vaccine that cause his death. Next was the wife of a friend, she told me she had has two "vaccines " and was about to get her third. I begged her not to do it saying that it will destroy her immune system, but she just smiled and said " There is nothing to worry about, I will be fine " When I next saw her about two months later she was totally bald. She had stage four Hodgkin's Lymphoma which is cancer of the immune system. I never said a word. The next one is a farmer who lives about a mile away from the woman with the cancer. He suffered a stroke when driving his tractor but was able to call his son on his cell phone His son went and got him and rushed him to the hospital where my wife works. The stroke was caused by a massive clot in his neck, they operated to remove it. 10 days later he had another stroke, now he is blind in one eye and is only partially sighted in the other. He will never work again. The next is my nearest neighbor, he has recently had a leg amputated due to blood clots. I know of others but I doubt you will want to hear any more. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/04/24 at 05:07:57 I know of others but I doubt you will want to hear any more. I would. Giving me the location has helped as I have worked in medical centers and have access to the shared data, especially in Canada. What I am most interested in is what vaccine brand was administered. Moderna appears to be more dangerous, and is from what I can see, more common in your area. As for a depopulation scheme, this is a poor one. It's not killing anywhere near enough people to make a difference. Billions are vaccinated, if only 1% died we'd have over 10 Million dead already. I'm certain removing 10 Million humans in a few years would be pretty impactful across the board. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by zevenenergie on 12/04/24 at 05:39:18 https://publichealthpolicyjournal.com/biontech-rna-based-covid-19-injections-contain-large-amounts-of-residual-dna-including-an-sv40-promoter-enhancer-sequence/ |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by zevenenergie on 12/04/24 at 05:45:39 4060626A7760050 wrote:
Can you also see in your systems how many studies have been done into excess mortality after the Covid period? |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/04/24 at 06:30:11 Can you also see in your systems how many studies have been done into excess mortality after the Covid period? No. There is no regulation for studies to report their information as medical records. https://osf.io/preprints/osf/mjc97 |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by MnSpring on 12/04/24 at 06:36:30 Here is a good read. https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18063-timeline-the-secret-history-of-swine-flu/ "... 1977 - An H1N1 virus appears in north-east China and starts circulating in humans. It causes seasonal flu in every subsequent year. No one knows where it came from, though it looks like an H1N1 that circulated in the Soviet Union in 1950 and some suspect it escaped in a laboratory accident. ..." As these 'flu's' become more common. The, "SCARE", becomes more prevalent. The last, Influenza/flu, turned into a experiment on how to control this worlds population. Just some of the things learned: Mom & Pop stores must close. Big box stores can stay open. Schools must close. 'Massage' parlors can stay open. Gathering of friends/relatives must close. Gathering of people wanting shots can stay open. Candy only stores, must close. Candy only stores, that donate to the D's can stay open. Cannot drive to the lake to watch a sunset. Or go back and forth to a Storage unit. Or have 4 people playing cards in a locked building. Or play ball with you child in a public park. (Just a tiny-tiney amount of examples, of what, experiments work and didn't work) And how can one forget. No Motor on a boat while fishing ! The next Influenza/flu scare. Will be better in controlling. And then the next. And then the next. And then the next. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/04/24 at 08:43:16 House Oversight Committee report. https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/2024.12.04-SSCP-FINAL-REPORT-ANS.pdf |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by blod on 12/04/24 at 08:48:48 I view the jabs the same as MAID, only in that case they make no secret of what they are doing. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by JOG on 12/04/24 at 09:23:49 OPERATION WARP SPEED: President-elect Trump’s Operation Warp Speed — which encouraged the rapid development and authorization of the COVID-19 vaccine — was highly successful and helped save millions of lives. While on the other hand you have this: COVID-19 VACCINE: Contrary to what was promised, the COVID-19 vaccine did not stop the spread or transmission of the virus. One of these things is not like the other. I mean, if the vaccines didn’t work; and that is what not being able to halt either the spread or transmission of the virus means, then how did those not working vaccines save millions of lives? I presume that there is a good deal of butt covering 101 going on so as to kick the can down the road for a few more years. OPERATION WARP SPEED: President-elect Trump’s Operation Warp Speed — which encouraged the rapid development and authorization of the COVID-19 vaccine — was highly successful and helped save millions of lives. Bullschitt |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/04/24 at 09:44:54 Stopping the spread is different than improving the likelihood of survival of the infected. Before you say I am calling the vaccine "Safe and Effective" please look at the words I am using. I am saying that a medication of any kind that treats any infectious and contagious disease, can help infected humans survive without stopping the transmission of the disease. Like early HIV/AIDS medications. They don't reduce spread, they increase survival of the infected. That's what those sentences you referenced are mentioning. It did not stop the spread but the claim is it saved millions of lives. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by JOG on 12/04/24 at 10:27:21 And I disagree with that. Not safe,not effective, of no benefit. The claims are just so much GloBull warming propaganda. Complete Bullschitt. Give it a coupla years. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by blod on 12/04/24 at 10:33:00 735351594453360 wrote:
The are not real vaccines, they are a newly developed gene manipulation system designed to be used on guinea pigs. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/04/24 at 10:49:36 And I disagree with that. Not safe,not effective, of no benefit. The claims are just so much GloBull warming propaganda. Complete Bullschitt. Give it a coupla years. The only problem I have is why aren't elderly still dying at 2020 rates? People are still getting old, many are still in nursing homes. What is the alternative? Maybe the most susceptible died first and now we have a more resistant pool left over? Anyway the claims you referenced are that it wont stop the spread, but will reduce rates of death. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by MnSpring on 12/04/24 at 14:49:41 5F7F7D75687F1A0 wrote:
Cause they are NOT BEING FORCED to take a shot ? |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/04/24 at 17:06:52 Cause they are NOT BEING FORCED to take a shot ? Except the comparative rates are BEFORE the vaccine was available. I must not have been clear on that. Besides, adults over 65 are among the highest percentage of receiving vaccination boosters. 76% not according not any government records. Shouldn't the highest percentage of boosted humans, the ones with the most vaccine in their bodies, be the ones dying the most? Why aren't they dropping dead just as fast as before the vaccine if the vaccine is more deadly than Covid? Lets say humans age 60-80 die at a rate of 10 per day. A contagious disease accelerates the rate to 15 per day. A poison that is more deadly than the disease is, repeatedly, consumed by 75% of 60-80 year old humans for 3 years. Would we see more or less or about the same die per day? My expectation, and math would dictate an increase or at a minimum, the same ratio of deaths per day. But today there are less. So either the most susceptible to the contagion are dead and the more resistant humans are left - like all of human history, or the vaccine is not more deadly than the disease. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by blod on 12/06/24 at 14:49:32 0A2A28203D2A4F0 wrote:
.............................................................................................. Do you really believe the info you post ? I don't believe anything other than what I can see with my own eyes. As for you, you must either be blind or go around with your eyes shut |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/06/24 at 21:52:39 Do you really believe the info you post ? I don't believe anything other than what I can see with my own eyes. As for you, you must either be blind or go around with your eyes shut You mean the reefer trucks of dead bodies I personally installed the shelving and saw the loading of in CO, NM and TX? The ARMY Corps of Engineers negative flow units installed on the top 2 floors of the medical center I work at (that were never used), or the CO Incident Command Center where I personally presented fraudulent nursing home numbers? That stuff I saw with my own eyes and not on the internet? Yeah I do believe it. The most likely staged dead bats dumped over a hill between Huangjinwo and the Quanhong Plantation in China? Yeah I believe I saw that with my own eyes. Bottom line is there was a spike in elderly mortality rates in 2020, even if you didn't see them drop dead with your own eyes, humans died, their families, obituaries, medical records and for many funeral plots exist. That mortality spike has not returned, why? |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by blod on 12/07/24 at 04:11:04 1737353D2037520 wrote:
What spike ? |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/07/24 at 12:34:33 What spike ? The increase in human deaths in 2019-2020. In this case specific to humans age 68+. I'm not entirely clear on Canadian numbers as my advisors there are currently in Poland and I'm not going to ask them to pull up anything while away. Maybe there were no more deaths in Canada, on average then years prior. However in the US, the 2020 mortality rates rose above average by double digits, which is not normal. An averaged metric using zero US Government data is 16.8765% No reasons given, only counting dead human bodies. This is an increase over the previous 10 years averaged. Of those in the 16.8765% the elderly age 68+ were the majority. There were more nursing home deaths on average during the initial stages of Covid 19, which is to be expected as that type of illness is more detrimental to the elderly than any other demographic. This has happened throughout human history so there's no reason to expect a difference in this one disease. Given we investigated and reported on tons of CMS fraudulent/excessive claims we used a 3 point verification minimum although my personal preference is 7 for major funding initiatives. For every reported fatality we verified at least 3 factors of supporting evidence, like obituaries, family social media, a processed dead body, records change, room availability, pharmaceutical stoppage for the deceased etc. Bottom line is I saw, with my own eyes, my hands lifting dead bodies into trucks which was something I have never had to do before because the morgue always had enough space. Most of those bags had old bodies in them. So that's the spike I am speaking of. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by MnSpring on 12/07/24 at 15:36:58 0A2A28203D2A4F0 wrote:
But, Observed Reality, is not really Real. (According to what one says) |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by blod on 12/07/24 at 15:37:01 4060626A7760050 wrote:
How do you know what those people died from ? |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/07/24 at 16:49:36 But, Observed Reality, is not really Real. Incorrect, I never said anything like that. I said Observed Reality is not an appropriate argument as an analogue for the planet. If one does not Observe something it is not part of their reality. For everyone else however it is. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/07/24 at 17:04:37 How do you know what those people died from ? The same way that you do. What I do know is more died in a specific timeframe than what would be considered normal. Even if it was from nothing Covid related, if the claim is the vaccine kills at an accelerated rate, why aren't the humans with the highest volume of vaccine in their bodies dying more? I have seen that modern laboratory testing and medical records interfaced with social media can find consistencies in human health outcomes. It may be a complete coincidence that humans testing positive with a specific disease, with similar symptoms, all incidentally died at an unprecedented 16% higher percentage. I simply do not think that a bunch of elderly humans got sick, coincidentally, all from different diseases over that limited course of time since the percentages were high, symptoms were similar, lab results identical, and humans of the same demographic that did not congregate, did not get sick at a 16% increase. Simply put elderly that were at home with limited family/human interaction died less. I think that because there is no record of this ever happening from a completely random series of illnesses. It has only historically happened from a contagion, or war/genocide. Since there was no mass murders, and in the past 107 years the morgues have not filled past capacity, I will assess that an illness, the one confirmed from laboratory testing, contributed to the overflow of dead human bodies. "Contributed" is a key word here that is historically not Observed on this forum by the way. Is it your observation that in Canada where you live there is no indication of an elevated mortality rate in 2019/2020? |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by blod on 12/07/24 at 18:08:31 4767656D7067020 wrote:
........................................ I don't know what they died from initially, or that they died from covid-19 or if any more than was normal died. I know what the officials said at the time, but that's all. I saw no significant increase in mortality in old people during 2019 - 2020. What I did notice was deaths and injuries in young and very fit people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99Iy8Dbxh2U&rco=1 |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by blod on 12/07/24 at 18:13:29 6F6162690D0 wrote:
........................................ I don't know what they died from initially, or that they died from covid-19 or if any more than was normal died or if covid-19 even exists. I know what the officials said at the time, but that's all. I saw no significant increase in mortality in old people during 2019 - 2020. What I did notice was a sudden increase in deaths and injuries in young and very fit people. What I have noticed more recently apart from the clots is a huge increase in " Turbo Cancers" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99Iy8Dbxh2U&rco=1[/quote] |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by JOG on 12/07/24 at 18:18:30 Blod,,not relevant.. E says All good. Safe Even if not effective. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by blod on 12/07/24 at 18:24:39 6E5B48504B4C485B4D290 wrote:
;D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMoi_m2G6XU |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by blod on 12/07/24 at 18:48:51 Well I'll be donald ducked, it looks like covid causes cancer ! :o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvfIbXViIPE PMSL |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by MnSpring on 12/07/24 at 18:55:57 09292B233E294C0 wrote:
Correct, Not exactly those, 'exact', words. Objective truth is not equal to Observed Reality. Observed reality is fundamentally flawed how can Observed Reality be a verifiable resource? Somebody's Observed reality there has to be objectively wrong. So their Observed reality was the exact opposite of yours. If there was only a way to get people to stop beLIEving the bullschitt they keep repeating. Observed Reality, and forum post archives, indicate that won't happen any time soon. FBI data set A is truthful to those who Observed a Reality that aligns with that data, … ... changed FBI data set B is truthful to those who Observed a Reality that aligns with the changed data, … Harris supporters rally attendance Observed Reality is not supported in objective truth or empirical evidence. Why won't you acknowledge this? will you refuse to look at it (thus maintaining your current Observed Reality) and say its wrong In their Observed Reality. Not actual reality - their Observed Reality. So, your, ‘Observed Reality’, is actually not reality, (it is), their Observed Reality Objective truth is not equal to Observed Reality. Evidence does not support their Observed Reality. Observed Reality for them is not objective truth So in your Observed Reality your posts are not read by me multiple times. or will they remain truth in your Observed Reality? In your Observed Reality that insurance thing is true your Observed Reality is that the insurance information is true. You were lied to - you will not Observe that This is why you keep repeating it. Observed Reality only works as an evidentiary claim if you also Observe things you don't agree with. (Very interesting, when regarding the claims of Covid) Observe only one thing, then it's everywhere. (Golly Gee Wally) So Observed Reality is based off rally attendance and not off the actual number of humans voting. Their Observed reality, (the weather in their neighborhood and the good ol' internet), supports the articles they won't read, data they won't look at, and directly conflicts with the assessments (Just to quote a very few) |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/07/24 at 19:18:46 Blod,,not relevant.. E says All good. Safe Even if not effective. I've never said anything like that. That is a lie. I've never even said anyone should get the vaccine. Nor did I "imply" it. Stating 8 million kids did not die from vaccinations is not saying the vaccine is safe. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/07/24 at 19:23:55 Correct, Not exactly those, 'exact', words. And none of my quotes you offered indicate I ever said Observed Reality "isn't really real". It's real. It's just a poor argument since it only applies to the human's chosen Observations. If they never Observed it, then it's not part of their reality. You did nothing more than provide reference for what I actually said and not what you are falsely claiming I said. So the next step is to use the same old "implied" argument because there is no actual statement from me saying what you claim. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by JOG on 12/07/24 at 19:32:30 49696B637E690C0 wrote:
Well,, pickaFukkinSide,dude.. Safe or NOT? |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by blod on 12/07/24 at 19:40:21 I have not looked for unusual death videos for ages, it's only this thread that got me interested. That said it's obvious that the deaths and injuries continue unabated, there are many recent additions. it's like it's never going to end. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwCG-3H4zEM&t=39s |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/07/24 at 19:43:14 Well,, pickaFukkinSide,dude.. Safe or NOT? I never said they were safe, you claim I did. You keep saying I said they are safe because you cant grasp the idea that if I say 8 Million kids didn't die, that is not equal to saying vaccines are "safe and effective". I interpreted documentation, you offered, that clearly said the vaccine is considered effective for preventing death from Covid, but not preventing spread, and you claim that as me saying the vaccine is "safe". No. I just read your reference and told you what it said. I never even claimed it was accurate, I just read it for you. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by blod on 12/07/24 at 19:46:36 4F6F6D65786F0A0 wrote:
Do you think the Covid jabs are safe ? Have you had any Covid jabs ? , If so how many ? |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/07/24 at 19:49:53 I have not looked for unusual death videos for ages, it's only this thread that got me interested. That said it's obvious that the deaths and injuries continue unabated, there are many recent additions. it's like it's never going to end. While I'd like to agree, I feel its important, for me anyway, to compare the statistics to pre-2019 numbers. In the US, heart disease in older adults has been the #1 killer, and for decades sudden cardiac arrest (SCA) has been a prominent cause of death in active - again, active children. The question is how much more today, if any, exist? For older US citizens we just don't have the large mortality rates continuing, or we would still be loading bodies into refrigerator trucks. That is a major deciding factor for me in regard to how imminently damaging a chemical compound is. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by blod on 12/07/24 at 19:54:05 09292B233E294C0 wrote:
................................................................. My question was actually about you, how many Covid injections have you taken ? |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/07/24 at 19:55:37 Do you think the Covid jabs are safe ? I think "safe" in terms of imminently damaging, some are. I posted in the past some pretty dangerous outcome potentials with a few specific batch numbers from Moderna and Pfizer. My calculation however is that Billions are vaccinated, if only 1% were imminently harmed we would be burying 132.5422 humans per-day in Colorado alone. So obviously the imminently dangerous percentage is small. Long term "safe" who knows. This could be killing a ton of people down the road through indirect complications. Have you had any Covid jabs ? , If so how many ? No. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/07/24 at 19:57:53 My question was actually about you, how many Covid injections have you taken ? Zero. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by blod on 12/07/24 at 20:01:01 6B4B49415C4B2E0 wrote:
Why ? |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by MnSpring on 12/07/24 at 20:57:11 4060626A7760050 wrote:
Yep, exactly, what you said ! Push aside the muck, Stevie Wonder, can see what you believe. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/07/24 at 21:53:51 Yep, exactly, what you said ! Push aside the muck, Stevie Wonder, can see what you believe. As usual you cant use my actual words to quote me saying what you claim. I wonder why that is. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/07/24 at 21:58:39 Why ? I have no reason to given my health, physical environment and genetic disposition. Given that the elderly have the most vaccine in their bodies, does it make logical sense that if the vaccine is killing more people than Covid, that we would, today, be seeing many elderly dying from vaccine-consistent problems like cardiac issues? Also in that regard, since major sports teams (In the US) require vaccination, does it seem plausible that given a profession has a 100% vaccine rate, that we would see an increase in cardiac (or any really) deaths than pre-2019 rates of death? |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by blod on 12/08/24 at 03:02:00 2707050D1007620 wrote:
It would appear that you think the whole covid thing is complete bollocks, and the clot shots are exactly that. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/08/24 at 12:04:00 It would appear that you think the whole covid thing is complete bollocks, and the clot shots are exactly that. I never said that, but I'm also not sure what you mean by your specific interpretation of complete bollocks. I do think Covid is real and is detectable by laboratory testing. What I am asking is given that the elderly have the most vaccine in their bodies, does it make logical sense that if the vaccine is killing more people than Covid, that we would, today, be seeing many elderly dying from vaccine-consistent problems like cardiac issues? If we make over 75% of a demographic consume a poison, would you expect more of that demographic to die? If we make 100% of a sports team consume a poison, would you expect a higher percentage to die than before they consumed the poison? |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by blod on 12/08/24 at 13:43:55 5474767E6374110 wrote:
Given that Covid is just a corona virus like the common flu it's all bollocks. If a certain group of people have been jabbed with a killer dna altering poison it would make sense that they would die quicker than those who had not taken the poison. The cardiac issues seem to target the young and healthy even more than the oldies. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by blod on 12/08/24 at 13:45:39 "I do think Covid is real and is detectable by laboratory" You appear to believe a lot of what you are told. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/08/24 at 15:45:50 If a certain group of people have been jabbed with a killer dna altering poison it would make sense that they would die quicker than those who had not taken the poison. I agree, so why aren't more older humans dying percentage wise than before the vaccinations? My assessment is that most of the humans that were susceptible to Covid and related complications, died. The rest have a natural resistance, or the vaccine assists in that resistance in the immediate and only immediate term. Tha vaccine can still be harmful, but there's no real way to confirm it is "saving lives", but its also unrealistic, at least in the US, to claim the elderly are still dying as much as they did in 2020. We aren't loading trucks full of bodies, obituaries aren't as large, funeral services no longer have waiting lists. That does not mean I am saying the vaccine is "Safe and Effective" nor does it mean I am implying it. I am saying that a decreased rate of mortality is not "proof" that the vaccine works as intended. The cardiac issues seem to target the young and healthy even more than the oldies. I disagree, I see it impacting males in their 40's more than youth. Specifically Moderna and 2 batches of Pfizer. Not much more, but more. Why haven't major sports teams had an increase in death? Wouldn't sports entities that require a 100% vaccination rate have an increase in death - thus having a decrease in consistent players? How are the major US sports teams managing to keep the same percentage of consistent players on the roster? Are they getting a non-lethal version of the vaccine? You appear to believe a lot of what you are told. I'm not using YouTube for that assessment, I am using my eyes to see the laboratories run the microscopes. I make monthly trips to use the electron microscope myself in Boulder. I've seen steps made by China, while in China, to cover up some of the Wuhan nonsense, and there's tons of information about the SARS lab there being funded by US money. Do you think that SARSCOV19 is not real, or not detectable for some reason? |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by blod on 12/08/24 at 16:07:20 Aren't more older older humans dying percentage wise than before the vaccinations? How would you know ? I do think Covid -19 is real. It is the corona virus ( flu ) of 2019. It's nothing new :) Why do you make monthly trips to use the electron microscope in Boulder ? :o |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/08/24 at 17:27:02 I do think Covid -19 is real. It is the corona virus ( flu ) of 2019. It's nothing new I disagree. "Flu" is short for "Influenza" which is clearly 8 single-stranded negative-sense, RNA viral segments while SARSCOV19 is single-stranded non-segmented, positive-sense viral RNA. These are two different things, one being Corona, the other Influenza. I'd say Corona is not "Flu". Given the data on gain of function research and how similar it is to modeled outcomes, I would say there is a likelihood that C-19 is not a simple naturally occurring bat-transmission disease, (normal) but more of a man-made mutated strain that was released (Not normal). Also given the mass obituaries, physicals dead bodies, lowered enrollments in Medicare, family memorials, funeral plots, reduction in sustained prescriptions, medical admissions versus discharges, funeral home bills, cremation and casket sales, nursing home patient lists, cell phone plan changes, dietician demographic loads, lawsuits for for wrongful elderly deaths, and others, I would say that at least in the US - more elderly died in 2020 than in previous years. It's not hard to see really, there isn't a ton of ways for a human to die and leave zero evidence behind these days. Why do you make monthly trips to use the electron microscope in Boulder ? One is because my business is contracted to be part of an OPFOR unit for a Proving Ground in New Mexico and components are evaluated on those microscopes - it is interesting to me so I try to go when I can. Second is because we can look at viral loads and see if the claims, like graphene being IN the vaccine, are true. I'd rather look than be told what's in there, and I drop some heavy coin to get time there so I might as well take advantage if I can. The whole science behind those scopes is very interesting to me. Why haven't major sports teams had an increase in death? Wouldn't sports entities that require a 100% vaccination rate have an increase in death - thus having a decrease in consistent players on their roster? |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by blod on 12/08/24 at 20:30:41 [quote author=0B2B29213C2B4E0 link=1732464988/90#93 date=1733707622]I do think Covid -19 is real. It is the corona virus ( flu ) of 2019. It's nothing new I disagree. "Flu" is short for "Influenza" which is clearly 8 single-stranded negative-sense, RNA viral segments while SARSCOV19 is single-stranded non-segmented, positive-sense viral RNA. These are two different things, one being Corona, the other Influenza. I'd say Corona is not "Flu". And Covid-19 is short for corona virus disease of 2019, the flu is also a corona virus, as is the common cold. Why haven't major sports teams had an increase in death? Haven't they ? |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/08/24 at 21:18:20 And Covid-19 is short for corona virus disease of 2019, the flu is also a corona virus, as is the common cold. "Flu" is short for "influenza" in the US, maybe in Canada it's not. Influenza is not a Corona Virus, they have different names because of this. Influenza "common cold" is typically Influenza A, B and C viruses. Coronavirus is not those, structurally, like under microscopes, but the symptoms to the naked eye are similar. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-vs-flu/art-20490339 https://www.cedars-sinai.org/blog/cold-flu-covid-differences.html https://www.nyp.org/medicalgroups/hudsonvalley/for-patients/healthcare-articles/covid-19-vs-flu Why haven't major sports teams had an increase in death? Haven't they ? No, not one in the US. Not one school district either. A great resource for this is "American" football. It's tracked incredibly thoroughly by sports channels, gambling, and the "Fantasy Football" league. They track every stat, how far they ran, passes, tackles, yards covered, etc. all for having stats in the gambling metrics. They even have injury trackers. Anything that will give an advantage in making money, and its a ton of money, millions and millions to be made every season. Not one mention of a statistical drop over the average in the past decade. If even one sports team had 4 or 5 guys drop dead from heart complications it would surely show up on the gambling, sports channels and even video game data since they make a new Madden game every year and literally every single player is represented. So either the vaccine isn't killing US major league sports players, they got a vaccine that does not kill immediately, the vaccine does not kill, or there are many really dead and the teams are using body doubles (yes I've seen the videos claiming they are CGI or robots or body doubles, my cousins friend made one for a high school project). There has to be a reason why not one alternative source of very accurate player tracking isn't mentioning dead players. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by zevenenergie on 12/09/24 at 00:50:24 So we have an experimental vaccine that did not stop the spread, and it did not prevent you from getting sick. It was contaminated with DNA and the content was not consistent. In addition, it did get into the nucleus of the cell. All research was manipulated and one-sided. There is a very long official report from the government with the abuses during the covid period. There has been no study done on excess mortality after the covid period. There is no one who has to take responsibility. In Europe, laws have been manipulated in such a way that NGOs have the say during emergencies and outside of them and that rebellion against government policy is punishable with enormous fines and imprisonment. Yet there are people who continue to masturbate, about how harmless the vaccine was. Face it, those two blonde lesbians in red in that Lamborghini, never honked at you and dit not sit on your face or crappity smacked your brains out. It's just really nice when you earn your money in a medical world where you are dictated what and how to think and where criticism is not tolerated because then you are always "supposedly doing well". Even if big pharma forbids good and proven treatment methods, you push that experimental injection in everyone's arm. Then I also understand why someone does not want to think critically about the covid 19 injection and the policy implemented. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by blod on 12/09/24 at 03:00:06 2404060E1304610 wrote:
I notice that there are no excess deaths reported in the RCMP either. It looks like there are jabs and there are jabs. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by WebsterMark on 12/09/24 at 03:31:49 A reminder: two things can be true at the same time. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by blod on 12/09/24 at 05:24:43 Nasty Evil $hit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGIAFr1MsBc&t=25s I can't for one second consider this an accident. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/09/24 at 07:59:01 I notice that there are no excess deaths reported in the RCMP either. It looks like there are jabs and there are jabs. They appear to only report deaths in custody. The difference here those deaths that are reported reflect dead humans in other aspects, like families, social media, and real funerals. Unlike the increase in athletes dying on major sports teams which appear to have "hundreds" of deaths but not one dead body, mourning family or missing player on the team. So that demographic has a 100% injection rate, but no additional deaths. More info in regard to the physical structure of SARSCOV19: https://www.microscopeworld.com/p-4317-covid-19-under-the-microscope.aspx |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by JOG on 12/09/24 at 08:03:26 Daayum,,. I made ten minutes. Very disturbing. They PooPooed Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine so they Could use the Emergency use authorization. Gosh,after all the calls by big shots to drive down population numbers is anyone really surprised that The Jabs are killing people? YaKnow, if too many people just fell over dead in a week, Everyone would catch on. So they produced different types of Vials. Not everyone got the same stuff. Each manufacturer produces different vials. I suspect that even inside of lot numbers there are variations. The deaths are not finished. The destruction of lives,people living half a life, injured, not finished. And Fauci TOLD Trump that he was going to have a health emergency to deal with. No red flag there. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/09/24 at 08:04:48 A reminder: two things can be true at the same time. I agree, to a degree. For instance the vaccine can not be imminently harmful killing tons of athletes per year, and also be harmful in other capacities. That appears to be impossible for some to Observe. However it can't be true that hundreds of athletes died and also not have hundreds of missing athletes on these sports teams. Just like we can't have had dead bodies piling up and also say there weren't more dead bodies piling up. So the obvious workaround is to not Observe that there were dead bodies, and also not Observe all of the supporting evidence. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by blod on 12/09/24 at 08:06:50 0C2C2E263B2C490 wrote:
You are obviously fixated on major sports teams, you totally ignore the death and suffering endured by rest of humanity. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by blod on 12/09/24 at 08:10:16 6D584B53484F4B584E2A0 wrote:
Trump was one of the main instigators. Don't forget Operation Warpspeed. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/09/24 at 08:10:39 They PooPooed Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine so they Could use the Emergency use authorization. They could use it anyway based on volume of infected, so I'm not sure that makes sense. Also they don't work. But Observing that the Ivermectin source admitted they lied must not apply and that the primary Hydroxychloroquine source to this day can't provide a single patient "cured" out of the hundreds claimed. If I "cured" hundreds of patients I would be providing that information as evidence all day long. And Fauci TOLD Trump that he was going to have a health emergency to deal with. No red flag there. He said that a lot. I would have been surprised if he didn't claim there would be some sort of health emergency. None of this means the vaccine is "Safe" or "Effective" it only means what the words I used to say them reflect when taken into context. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by zevenenergie on 12/09/24 at 12:44:55 Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine were banned by the covid vaccine advocates. God knows how many people died of covid because of it. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/09/24 at 14:20:17 Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine were banned by the covid vaccine advocates. Not in the US. Plenty of people are still taking them as Covid treatment. The problem is no conclusive evidence exists that indicates they help. Unless of course one chooses not to Observe when sources are full of fake numbers and humans that don't exist like all that data from India from medical centers that didn't even have the laboratories listed in their buildings. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Needles on 12/09/24 at 14:22:28 I'm a retired RN. 25 years working in hospitals, through 2019. If you understand the science, there is no mechanism that allows either Ivermectin or any of the chloroquinalones to have any effect on the virus. The people who relied on it and lived, lived DESPITE taking the wrong medicine, not BECAUSE of it. They are both antiparasitic, not antivirals. There is simply no way in hell they'd work against Covid. You do you--- you might make it anyway, because that's just how viruses work. All I can ask is, do you wear a flea collar? That's Ivermectin. Do you have sickle cell trait? That is what the chloroquinalones mimic. ALL of the anti-vax propaganda is wrong. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/09/24 at 14:30:33 If you understand the science, there is no mechanism that allows either Ivermectin or any of the chloroquinalones to have any effect on the virus. That doesn't matter because people that never even heard of any of these things before watched YouTube and read on the always trustworthy internet that these drugs defied all known historical evidence and medicine as we know it. Since the CDC or WHO said those drugs won't work, that's proof they actually do work. Decades of historical outcomes mean nothing. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by JOG on 12/09/24 at 15:40:28 ALL of the anti-vax propaganda is wrong. ALL of the pro-vax propaganda is wrong. The death and destruction demonstrate that. Taking a placebo is better than The Jabs. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by MnSpring on 12/09/24 at 16:48:56 Was Said: "... Fauci TOLD Trump that he was going to have a health emergency..." 0B2B29213C2B4E0 wrote:
So, is it your opinion, Fauci, is as crooked as the day is long, and is not to be trusted with any advice he has. And what ever he says is just a Cover His AZZ. Or is it your opinion Fauci, is sacrosanct, and every word coming out of his mouth is to be totally believed. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/09/24 at 17:32:51 So, is it your opinion, Fauci, is as crooked as the day is long, and is not to be trusted with any advice he has. And what ever he says is just a Cover His AZZ. Or is it your opinion Fauci, is sacrosanct, and every word coming out of his mouth is to be totally believed. I would not say either one of those are my opinion. My opinion is Fauci has repeatedly stated there will be an "epidemic" "pandemic" "novel outbreak" "unforeseen illness" "disease of unknown proportion" etc. over the decades, and as such I would be surprised if he did not continue that behavior. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by MnSpring on 12/09/24 at 18:53:14 7454565E4354310 wrote:
So, No opinion on; whether Fauci is a honorable person. or if he makes a statement, which is totally depending on which way the wind blows. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/09/24 at 20:26:47 So, No opinion on; whether Fauci is a honorable person. or if he makes a statement, which is totally depending on which way the wind blows. You gave me two specific options. They did not reflect my opinion of him or any other human. I find it unrealistic that any human will only lie for self interest, or only tell the truth. My opinion is Fauci has repeatedly stated there will be an "epidemic" "pandemic" "novel outbreak" "unforeseen illness" "disease of unknown proportion" etc. over the decades, and as such I would be surprised if he did not continue that behavior. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by MnSpring on 12/09/24 at 21:23:52 2606040C1106630 wrote:
Interesting I found this reference. "... Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), seemingly warned that the incoming president would "no doubt" be faced with a "surprise infectious disease outbreak"..." From the ABSOLUTELY accurate Snoops site. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fauci-warn-surprise-outbreak/ "... an article dating from shortly before Trump's January 2017 inauguration, in which Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), seemingly warned that the incoming president would "no doubt" be faced with a "surprise infectious disease outbreak ..." And ones like the above. But ! |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by zevenenergie on 12/11/24 at 02:14:26 7757555D4057320 wrote:
I was in India in the 90s when I arrived at my destination half the town was in bed, on the streets and in parks with an unknown disease. It didn't take long before I was sick too, I have never felt so miserable as then. At one point I thought my last hour had struck. I was then sat on the back of a moped with a rope tied to the driver and taken to a hospital, which turned out to be nothing more than a dilapidated building. But there was a graduate doctor. He told me that the water was contaminated by that sewer water had leaked into the subsoil where they pumped water from and was contaminated with hepatitis and a cocktail of viruses and bacteria and parasites. And there was no medicine but I was given paracetamol and Hydroxychloroquine and a drink that smelled of chlorine to take home. I was able to walk again within a few days. But after coming home it took another six months before I could work again. Without those resources I don't know if I would have survived because I didn't have the strength to eat or drink anymore. So I think I owe my life to that doctor and to paracetamol, Hydroxychloroquine and a vague chlorine drink. Those last two were in the news during the covid priode. |
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Title: Re: The Jabs ARE killing people Post by Eegore on 12/11/24 at 05:18:28 So I think I owe my life to that doctor and to paracetamol, Hydroxychloroquine and a vague chlorine drink. Those last two were in the news during the covid priode. So you did not have Covid, but did get some other illness that was treated by paracetamol, Hydroxychloroquine and a vague chlorine drink. I'm not sure where this would factor in as conclusive evidence of effective Hydroxychloroquine treatment, or as some will insist " a proven cure". Glad it worked out for you though. |
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