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Message started by WebsterMark on 11/13/24 at 07:13:31

Title: Star Wars  and our new secretary of defense
Post by WebsterMark on 11/13/24 at 07:13:31

This might take a little bit to piece together so bear with me.

If you watch the video below (and I know most of you will not) at around the 3:50 mark, he starts talking about China and how they’re building weapons for the future, and they’re not 10 years behind the last war like we are. He makes the point that if there ever was a conflict, China’s hypersonic missiles could take out our aircraft carriers within minutes.

Which brings me to something I heard a couple of months ago and it has stuck with me. There is a huge plot line flaw with Star Wars, Star Trek or most any sci-fi movie: if they have ships that can move at the speed of light, why is it that they’re firing lasers at each other with rifles?

Iif you have the technology to achieve  lightspeed in a ship as large as the death star, why not just fly it directly into a planet and completely destroy it? Why  the need to build and shoot some kind of giant laser?

If you can make a craft, the size of a small moon, aim it at the enemy planet and hit it traveling at light speed and it will effectively destroy the planet. Look what happened when a tiny (relatively speaking) asteroid hit the Earth. Imagine something a quarter of the size of the moon, traveling at the speed of light hitting the Earth. What percentage of the population would be killed immediately 50%? 75%? How long would it take all lifeforms to die? Weeks? A couple months?


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4WRj8JFNkiM&pp=ygUicGV0ZSBoZWdzZXRoIGhvdyBjaGluYSBpcyBidWlsZGluZw%3D%3D

Title: Re: Star Wars  and our new secretary of defense
Post by Serowbot on 11/13/24 at 07:40:38

A President that gives away nuclear secrets will be helpful
Didn't he put a Fox TV host in charge?

Anyway,    maybe Darth wants to keep the planet instead of blowing it to smithereens

Title: Re: Star Wars  and our new secretary of defense
Post by Eegore on 11/13/24 at 07:52:03

Iif you have the technology to achieve  lightspeed in a ship as large as the death star, why not just fly it directly into a planet and completely destroy it? Why  the need to build and shoot some kind of giant laser?


 Opinions follow:

 While it only took 4 years to build the second Death Star, it takes 24 hours to charge the reactors to full - which is the amount required to blow up an entire planet.

 Using the Death Star as an example they could either destroy one planet every 4 years if they use the structure itself, or destroy 1,460 planets per year using the turbo-lasers.

 If it were 1/4 of the size it would be fair to say they could use a smaller Death Star every year to damage a planet.  If it took less time to manufacture a lightspeed ship than it did to fire the weapons I could see the logic.

 This post is an opinion.  The previous sentence indicates an opinion.

Title: Re: Star Wars  and our new secretary of defense
Post by WebsterMark on 11/13/24 at 08:17:35


6B7D6A776F7A776C180 wrote:
A President that gives away nuclear secrets will be helpful
Didn't he put a Fox TV host in charge?

Anyway,    maybe Darth wants to keep the planet instead of blowing it to smithereens


FFS….

Title: Re: Star Wars  and our new secretary of defense
Post by WebsterMark on 11/13/24 at 08:20:39


0B2B29213C2B4E0 wrote:
Iif you have the technology to achieve  lightspeed in a ship as large as the death star, why not just fly it directly into a planet and completely destroy it? Why  the need to build and shoot some kind of giant laser?


 Opinions follow:

 While it only took 4 years to build the second Death Star, it takes 24 hours to charge the reactors to full - which is the amount required to blow up an entire planet.

 Using the Death Star as an example they could either destroy one planet every 4 years if they use the structure itself, or destroy 1,460 planets per year using the turbo-lasers.

 If it were 1/4 of the size it would be fair to say they could use a smaller Death Star every year to damage a planet.  If it took less time to manufacture a lightspeed ship than it did to fire the weapons I could see the logic.

 This post is an opinion.  The previous sentence indicates an opinion.


Yeah, but it took four years to build it because of all the complexity. All they have to do is build a big ball, put a light speed engine inside it and send it off. Seems like they could do that very quickly.

If hypersonic missiles really could take out aircraft carriers quickly, doesn’t that make aircraft carriers somewhat obsolete?

Title: Re: Star Wars  and our new secretary of defense
Post by WebsterMark on 11/13/24 at 08:22:14

Look what drone warfare has done in Ukraine. A few relatively inexpensive drones loaded with explosives can take out a $25 million tank.

Title: Re: Star Wars  and our new secretary of defense
Post by JOG on 11/13/24 at 08:56:49

Since E=MC Squared, as,a,mass approaches the speed of light, it gains in potential kinetic energy at a nonlinear rate.
An object striking Earth at near light speed would likely go through.
Think Slo-Mo picture of a bullet going through an egg.

I'm surprised TC didn't get that in already.

Hypersonic missiles must be very expensive. But,if there is a target that ya Really want to smoke, with a near 100% likelihood of it succeeding, drop the money, smoke the target.
Otherwise, drones are relatively inexpensive and nobody is exposed to the countermeasures the drone may see. Send several, pound your way through.


These are Out There, sold to several countries. Fast and deadly.

https://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/missile-threat-and-proliferation/todays-missile-threat/russia/p-270-moskit-ss-n-22-sunburn/

https://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/missile-threat-and-proliferation/todays-missile-threat/russia/p-270-moskit-ss-n-22-sunburn/



Title: Re: Star Wars  and our new secretary of defense
Post by WebsterMark on 11/13/24 at 10:21:43


4277647C6760647761050 wrote:
Since E=MC Squared, as,a,mass approaches the speed of light, it gains in potential kinetic energy at a nonlinear rate.
An object striking Earth at near light speed would likely go through.
Think Slo-Mo picture of a bullet going through an egg.

I'm surprised TC didn't get that in already.

Hypersonic missiles must be very expensive. But,if there is a target that ya Really want to smoke, with a near 100% likelihood of it succeeding, drop the money, smoke the target.
Otherwise, drones are relatively inexpensive and nobody is exposed to the countermeasures the drone may see. Send several, pound your way through.


These are Out There, sold to several countries. Fast and deadly.

https://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/missile-threat-and-proliferation/todays-missile-threat/russia/p-270-moskit-ss-n-22-sunburn/

https://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/missile-threat-and-proliferation/todays-missile-threat/russia/p-270-moskit-ss-n-22-sunburn/


This is  all science fiction conjecture of course but if  the impossibility of solving faster than light travel was accomplished, that would  by default also  solve the mass and time dilation problem as well.

Title: Re: Star Wars  and our new secretary of defense
Post by WebsterMark on 11/14/24 at 04:29:11

There was another aspect to this article, and I wish I could find it but I don’t remember how long ago or read it or even where it was.

We’ll call this part angels or demons. Basically, the idea is this: if an alien civilization solved the faster than light puzzle, and realized they alone had the secret. they could dominate the galaxy. Seriously, think about it. If you conquered faster than light travel, then you could easily make a weapon to destroy any planet or any civilization that was a challenge or inconvenience to you.

Human beings have done this throughout history. We use bug spray to take out a hornet nest on our garage. Animals do this all the time. Male lions will kill baby lions in an effort to bring about arousal in lionesses so they can populate the pride with their own seed. I saw a video the other day of a male giraffe killing a baby giraffe in order to force the female giraffe to come into heat. This is the demon part of the equation.

The angel party equation is just as common, perhaps more so and that’s two lifeforms living in a symbiotic relationship. Bees take nectar from flowers, but pollinate more flowers. All kinds of animals work in conjunction with one another sometimes they don’t even realize they’re doing it, but they are. And of course, the vast majority of human beings act more like angels thandemons.

So the writer of this articles point was, if there really are millions of potential lifeforms in our galaxy, then they have to be more angelic than demonic because if they’ve faster than light puzzle, it’s more likely they would’ve destroyed us.

Of course, maybe they just haven’t gotten around to us yet. :-/

Something to think about.

Title: Re: Star Wars  and our new secretary of defense
Post by MnSpring on 11/14/24 at 07:06:32

"... maybe they just haven’t gotten around to us yet. ..."


          Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:

"... Arthur Dent awakes one day to find a demolition crew outside his house, preparing to bulldoze it down to make way for a new bypass. ...

... Ford has discovered that a Vogon Constructor fleet is heading toward Earth to destroy it to make way for a galactic bypass. The fleet arrives, causing mass chaos on Earth. Its leader, Prostetnic Jeltz, announces that Earth has been scheduled for demolition and unceremoniously destroys it. ..."



Title: Re: Star Wars  and our new secretary of defense
Post by WebsterMark on 11/14/24 at 07:31:47

Exactly! Forgot about that.

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