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Title: No guns? Post by Serowbot on 10/20/24 at 14:13:51 No guns at Jan 6? Let's lay that myth to rest once and for all Also bombs, and hotel room stash houses for more guns Listen up POLICE RADIO TRANSMISSIONS, IDENTIFYING INDIVIDUALS WITH FIREARMS, INCLUDING AR-15'S, NEAR THE ELLIPSE JAN 6 https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5021970/user-clip-police-radio-coverage-j6 Trump knew and didn't care "They're not after me" https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5021833/cassidy-hutchinson-president-trumps-awareness-weapons-january-6-rally |
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Title: Re: No guns? Post by TheBabyDerp on 10/23/24 at 05:50:51 who cares? you do realize this country was founded in revolution right? I really don't care. This doesn't effect who I am voting for in 2 weeks. Trump all the way. As a devout Catholic, I cannot put my vote behind a Democrat. Their party is in full support and advocation of abortion. I will always vehemently oppose this. |
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Title: Re: No guns? Post by thumperclone on 10/23/24 at 08:37:09 the Christian right is neither |
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Title: Re: No guns? Post by TheBabyDerp on 10/23/24 at 08:42:21 7C607D65786D7A6B6467666D080 wrote:
no side is perfect. I have some disagreements with those on my side too. At the end of the day, I firmly believe Abortion is murder. I believed this before I converted as well. The protection of unborn life is one of my top priorities. And I know, by voting Republican, I can make sure Alabama retains it's strong anti-abortion laws. There are other reasons as well. I don't like hordes of migrants pouring across the border either. |
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Title: Re: No guns? Post by zevenenergie on 10/23/24 at 09:42:05 It is time that we give the Christians a helping hand. If we are going to force things on each other, then I want to enforce that everyone who is against abortion does not get help in dying. So no peaceful, dignified, and pain-free experience for the dying. No opioids such as morphine or other medications to control discomfort. Also other symptoms such as shortness of breath, nausea, and anxiety also not managed with specific medications. Because of young women with a child conceived by rape, or women who face a hard life due to the lack of a partner or a reasonably prosperous environment, I also insist that the dying should not receive guidance from: family members, chaplains, priests, imams, rabbis, or other spiritual leaders. Because what you do not grant to others, you do not get yourself, because as a Christian you are of course not hypocritical and you accept God's will without grumbling or complaining. Jesus didn't complain when he was nailed to the cross. And I know how devout Christians want to be, but they never succeed, hence this help. Oh, you were already against abortion before you were converted? That must have been because of your conditioning. Did you or your family grow up in a Christian environment? Say you've never had sex outside of the reason that you wanted to create life. Not that jesus ever asked his disciples that of course. it's one of the church's fabrications that you've probably ignored. Your ballot is not there to make life miserable for others, brother. |
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Title: Re: No guns? Post by TheBabyDerp on 10/23/24 at 09:49:15 I do not support assisted suicide either.... Or "death with dignity" or whatever you call it. Comparing Abortion to giving someone medicine is moronic, I won't even entertain such a comparison. Same goes for visits from their clergy. Abortion is MURDER. It is NOT healthcare. Only a savage would think abortion is not murder. Yes, I 100% believe a raped woman should be forced to give birth. Murdering a human because their father raped their mother is INSANE. If anything, execute the rapist so he won't harm anyone else. Abortion is the sacrament of Satan. Sacrificing unborn humans to the demon Moloch. "My body my choice" is a direct insult against the Eucharis where Jesus says "This is my body". Abortion is the Satanic opposite of the Blessed Sacrament. |
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Title: Re: No guns? Post by zevenenergie on 10/23/24 at 09:59:48 If you are so concerned about life, why are you a member of an organization where child abuse is common and perpetrators are protected and shielded. How is it possible that Satan is so strongly represented within the walls of the church? Don't you think that being a member of such an organization perpetuates the work of Satan? |
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Title: Re: No guns? Post by TheBabyDerp on 10/23/24 at 10:12:31 Humans are human, and will always sin. Being a member or clergy of the Church does not make one sinless. The Church has made far worse mistakes in the past anyway. Predators seek positions of power where they are over children. The American public school system has FAR MORE cases of child abuse than the Church. I don't see anyone pitching a fork against the school system to tear it down. |
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Title: Re: No guns? Post by TheBabyDerp on 10/23/24 at 10:13:57 Additionally, I believe anyone regardless of who they are deserves the strongest punishment for molesting children. It should be a capital punishment. Jesus said "But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea." |
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Title: Re: No guns? Post by zevenenergie on 10/23/24 at 10:46:05 I wonder what Jesus would say about the situation in the church. I don't think he would compensate for it with his sayings. I think he would rather speak of an organized crime by people who speak in his name. Schools report more cases of sexually transgressive behavior due to the daily contact of teachers with children, while churches, especially the Catholic Church, have had to deal with a major historical scandal in which the abuse remained hidden for years. The church has shown itself to be completely untrustworthy and morally corrupt in all aspects of life. I think they have lost all right to represent the divine. Their spiritual malpractice is a very bad thing that has already caused a lot of suffering. |
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Title: Re: No guns? Post by TheBabyDerp on 10/23/24 at 10:51:43 Cool story but: 1. Regardless of what you believe about the Church, Abortion will always be murder. It doesn't matter if you are Buddhist, Hindu, Muslim, or Jew, abortion will remain the ruthless murder of the unborn. 2. No one is forcing you to follow Christ in the Church He established. He gave you free will. This includes free will to sin, and free will to reject Him. 3. The Church has taken care of the the problem, and actively assists law enforcement. My diocese maintains a list and makes every single instance public. Even in cases that were 60 years ago, my diocese exposes them. The Church does not support sin. I am sorry if you were effected by bad actors within the Church. |
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Title: Re: No guns? Post by Serowbot on 10/23/24 at 11:08:54 766A676063607B66677072020 wrote:
That exact phrase was shouted to disrupt a Harris rally Is that from the bible? No Funny how you think you're thoughts are your own The problem is you would force them on the 70% of people that believe differently That's a losing proposition in a free country This is a Democracy not a Theocracy |
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Title: Re: No guns? Post by TheBabyDerp on 10/23/24 at 11:10:20 We are not a Democracy. We are a Constitutional Representative Republic. There is a difference. And I do support Theocracy. |
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Title: Re: No guns? Post by zevenenergie on 10/23/24 at 11:17:36 6874797E7D7E6578796E6C1C0 wrote:
Tanks I was not effected. You can't expect organized crime to correct itself. |
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Title: Re: No guns? Post by TheBabyDerp on 10/23/24 at 11:23:54 We aren't "organized crime". The Church is the largest charity organization. We have built more hospitals than any other group. The church did correct itself, but we have other issues now unrelated to child abuse. Yes. Almost every faith claims to be right. I wasn't raised a Catholic, and all of this happened before I converted. Of course, us converts tend to be more zealous about our beliefs. ;) |
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Title: Re: No guns? Post by TheBabyDerp on 10/23/24 at 11:26:15 I would also like to take a moment to mention some good the Church has done. The Crusades were a net positive. Islamic hordes tried to take over Europe. I can assure you, that an Islamic west would be much more oppressive over your life than what Europe has now. At minimum, you should thank the Church for it's role on protecting the West. |
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Title: Re: No guns? Post by zevenenergie on 10/23/24 at 11:57:46 2F333E393A39223F3E292B5B0 wrote:
When where you converted? This Afternoon? |
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Title: Re: No guns? Post by zevenenergie on 10/23/24 at 11:59:01 AQhh wait I understand, there was child abuse in your church. |
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Title: Re: No guns? Post by TheBabyDerp on 10/23/24 at 11:59:55 I completed the conversion process this year, at Easter. Have a good night :) |
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Title: Re: No guns? Post by zevenenergie on 10/23/24 at 12:07:31 I said there was child abuse in your church but that is a mistake.There is child abuse in your church. http://https://i.imgur.com/rmQ94fam.png |
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Title: Re: No guns? Post by TheBabyDerp on 10/23/24 at 12:09:35 Nope, I have a life with better things to do than argue with retards on the internet. |
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Title: Re: No guns? Post by zevenenergie on 10/23/24 at 12:17:58 The BABY derp? |
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Title: Re: No guns? Post by Serowbot on 10/23/24 at 12:36:46 2438353231322934352220500 wrote:
So what you're saying is your dogma is less oppressive than their dogma and we should thank you for that? Gee... thanks Why don't you agree with their dogma? That would be crazy, right? |
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Title: Re: No guns? Post by thumperclone on 10/23/24 at 13:11:05 [quote author=6C707D7A797A617C7D6A68180 link=1729458831/0#1 date=1729687851]who cares? you do realize this country was founded in revolution right? I really don't care. This doesn't effect who I am voting for in 2 weeks. Trump all the way. As a devout Catholic, I cannot put my vote behind a Democrat. makes sense for one who worships a religion that is led by a dictator would vote for a dictator wannabe |
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Title: Re: No guns? Post by thumperclone on 10/23/24 at 13:12:58 6478757271726974756260100 wrote:
insulting people who disagree with you is a prime example of your faith |
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Title: Re: No guns? Post by LANCER on 10/23/24 at 13:47:03 4B5447545F545F5443565854310 wrote:
Tanks I was not effected. You can't expect organized crime to correct itself.[/quote] ****************** Zev, are you perfect ? Without character or moral imperfections ? The truthful answer is NO. Every human on this planet is born with a corrupt nature, just like me and you. It makes no difference whether or not you believe who Jesus is. Imperfect people do things that are wrong, whether they attend a church, a mosk, a temple, etc. Everyone is capable and will lie, cheat, steal, hate, murder, abuse, and many other crimes ( crime = sin = violating God’s laws ). Do you have some expectation that folks who believe in God are supposed to be perfect ? And because they are not, then that means that they are all liars who participate in a great rouge to try to convince all others that they are perfect ? A believer is not perfect, they are just an imperfect being who has been saved from the (final) death penalty that God has in store for unbelievers. Like everyone, we live day to day trying to do our best. We do some things well and other things not. Organizations don’t sin, individuals do that. Just like you and I. |
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Title: Re: No guns? Post by zevenenergie on 10/23/24 at 15:32:27 2A27282523347471460 wrote:
Tanks I was not effected. You can't expect organized crime to correct itself.[/quote] ****************** Zev, are you perfect ? Without character or moral imperfections ? The truthful answer is NO. Your right i,m not. Every human on this planet is born with a corrupt nature, just like me and you. It makes no difference whether or not you believe who Jesus is. We are not born like this, we become like this. Imperfect people do things that are wrong, whether they attend a church, a mosk, a temple, etc. Everyone is capable and will lie, cheat, steal, hate, murder, abuse, and many other crimes ( crime = sin = violating God’s laws ). Do you murder steal and abuse? I don,t. Do you have some expectation that folks who believe in God are supposed to be perfect ? I think that people who believe in a god outside of themselves often have an ideal image of how Jesus or a clergyman should behave. And they want everyone to behave that way. I think that is a bad thing because it is unnatural. Something like a clergyman who thinks he has to be celibate and his sexuality that is not transformed, finds a perverse way out. I think it is inherently wrong when someone shows artificial behavior. And because they are not, then that means that they are all liars who participate in a great rouge to try to convince all others that they are perfect ? A believer is not perfect, they are just an imperfect being who has been saved from the (final) death penalty that God has in store for unbelievers. Say what? Like everyone, we live day to day trying to do our best. We do some things well and other things not. Organizations don’t sin, individuals do that. Just like you and I. I think you have no idea how widespread child abuse is in the church. There is a huge denial on this subject. And these people are indeed organized. And there is practically no talk of individual cases within the church. It is a network. That is why so little is said about it and that it will never stop. It is an ideal cover for pedophiles. [/quote] |
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Title: Re: No guns? Post by zevenenergie on 10/23/24 at 15:51:11 A believer is not perfect, they are just an imperfect being who has been saved from the (final) death penalty that God has in store for unbelievers. You can believe in God and adhere to a religion but that is worth nothing. Believing is just a metal activity and will really get you nothing. It only gives you a feeling that you are better than unbelievers that is all. There is no transformation in this kind of belief, or a deep knowing or realization. It is a cheap version of the real ting. |
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