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Message started by JOG on 08/29/24 at 21:18:55

Title: New landlords
Post by JOG on 08/29/24 at 21:18:55

You can pay Us now.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/colorado-mayor-speaks-out-after-video-of-armed-venezuelan-gang-in-apartment-goes-viral-failed-policy/ar-AA1pFNiG?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Title: Re: New landlords
Post by MnSpring on 08/30/24 at 18:18:00


1025362E3532362533570 wrote:
You can pay Us now.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/colorado-mayor-speaks-out-after-video-of-armed-venezuelan-gang-in-apartment-goes-viral-failed-policy/ar-AA1pFNiG?ocid=BingNewsSerp


" Denver — a sanctuary city — received over 40,000 migrants to the suburb of 390,000 since December 2022. "

"... 8 New gun bills passed by Colorado’s legislature this year and signed into law by the governor ..."

https://coloradosun.com/2024/06/12/new-colorado-gun-laws-2024/

YET this one was REJECTED !!!!!!!!

"...Stolen weapons
A measure that would have increased the penalties for stealing a gun valued at less than $1,000 was rejected ..."



So CO, Cry.
You ENCOURAGED the crime, by APPROVING the UL, WOKE, DFI, FDS, Socialist attitude to Prevail !





Title: Re: New landlords
Post by Eegore on 08/30/24 at 21:33:49


 Well it wasn't rejected by direct vote, and only direct vote, in exclusivity with the exception of all other known words, that's for sure.

 It's getting close to running another recall, but it will be much harder this time around.

Title: Re: New landlords
Post by MnSpring on 08/31/24 at 08:41:34


  Said by Eegore
 " Well it wasn't rejected by direct vote, ..."

 Yes it was !

The ''PEOPLE",
voted for DFI, UL, Fairy Dust Sprinklers to be in charge.
Then the FDS, put in play, the UL, WOKE, policies.

"...running another recall, but it will be much harder this time around...."

Probably not possible, as Denver has now been filled with UL, DFI, FDS, Socialists.
  (Who all love freedom hating people like Harris/Walz)


Title: Re: New landlords
Post by Eegore on 08/31/24 at 09:43:27

Yes it was !

 Incorrect.  "Direct vote" and only direct vote, in exclusivity with the exception of all other known words is only when voting is directly made by the CO Citizen voter.  Passive or Representative vote is the process you describe here:


The ''PEOPLE",
voted for DFI, UL, Fairy Dust Sprinklers to be in charge.
Then the FDS, put in play, the UL, WOKE, policies.


 I did not vote for these gun laws, therefore I did not engage in direct vote and only direct vote, in exclusivity with the exception of all other known words, for these laws.  Representatives assembled and voted on these laws.

 It was not direct vote, and only direct vote, in exclusivity with the exception of all other known words.  Since this is Representative vote, we can attempt another recall, but it will be much harder this time around.

Title: Re: New landlords
Post by MnSpring on 08/31/24 at 17:20:47

"...  Incorrect.  ..."

Again,
it is the fault of a direct vote.
(Despite of your word salad)

All the people that voted in CO.
VOTED for the FDS, DFI, UL, WOKE, Socialists, and put them in office.
They were the people that made the decisions to 'play the WOKE game'.

No doubt, YOU, did not vote for a Socialist,
YET, more other people did.

Therefore it WAS A DIRECT VOTE,
To put in place people that LOVE the FDS, WOKE, Socialist agenda.

And guess what, DON'T CARE
That the UL, FDS, Socialists are now crying for someone else to step up, and fix the problem THEY created !

















Title: Re: New landlords
Post by Eegore on 09/01/24 at 00:46:16

Again,
it is the fault of a direct vote.
(Despite of your word salad)


 Direct voting and only direct voting, in exclusivity, with the exception of all other known words is voting that would be external to Representative action.  A direct line of sight is not asking someone else to tell you where the target is.  If the target is recently passed gun laws, then the voter had no direct line of sight.

 Voters did not directly vote using only the words "directly" and "vote", in exclusivity with the exception of all other known words, for the gun laws.  They voted for them through representative action.

 If my claim was the Representatives were directly voted for then your argument would be true.  My claim however is that they laws were not directly voted for.  Not the "result of" a direct vote.  
 

 

Title: Re: New landlords
Post by MnSpring on 09/01/24 at 07:34:18


436361697463060 wrote:
 "...my claim ..."    

You mean, your OPINION.


One more time.

      The CO voter, VOTED for,
A PERSON, that Voted to make a UL FDS Decision.

They VOTED for a person on this or that side of the issue.
  (KNOWING  in most probability, HOW THEY WILL VOTE)

THE  majority of Voting PEOPLE of CO, DECIDED, What they want.
  Despite your SPINNING and totally unnecessary words.

Good luck with the re-call.
Cause it sure does look like the majority of CO voter, WANT to punish Gun owners.

If you think that a person elected, campaigned on a Conservative stand.
Then (once elected)  suddenly changed to a UL, FDS WOKE stand,
Is a reason to recall them.

Go for it !


Title: Re: New landlords
Post by JOG on 09/01/24 at 08:26:51

Maybe local government Does own some of the blame.. But the Federal government owns every bit of it. The open borders policy biden initiated right after he was installed, protected by that disgusting POS Mayorkas, yes,The same Mayorkas who testified that the border was secure,,
Why WOULD Kamala go down there and see what everyone knows is happening, when, as border czar, she Knew the game plan and that the border was as secure as They Wanted it..
Anyone who actually believes the illegals won't be voting also didn't believe the conservative voices were being censored illegally.
As I said, that was a win ,win. They silenced voices, since proven to have been Correct, and furthered their agenda, and in Silencing all those voices, they also gave the lefties the impression that They were the majority. Not even close. If not for the RINOS, you would know how numerous you really are.

How anyone can look at rally attendance and Fail to grasp what it's saying is beyond reason,,
Well, here's something else to Not pay attention to.

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/mark-cuban-polls-followers-preferring-kids-like-trump-harris-trump-won-landslide

Title: Re: New landlords
Post by Eegore on 09/01/24 at 08:40:39

You mean, your OPINION.

 My statement is CO voters did not directly vote "for the" gun laws.  Not results "of a" direct vote for something else.  That something else being a direct vote "for the" Representatives/Politicians.

 Your assessment is correct if I did indeed say the gun laws were a "result of" poor direct voting.  But I didn't.  The laws were never up for citizen vote so there was no direct vote on them specifically.  There was a direct vote on the humans that enacted them.

 Did you directly vote "for the" quantum speed development and distribution of the Covid vaccine?  Or did you directly vote for Trump?  Would the vaccine speed/development/distribution be something you directly voted for on a ballot with the vaccine on it, or is it a "result of" voting for Trump?



One more time.

     The CO voter, VOTED for,
A PERSON, that Voted to make a UL FDS Decision.


 One more time.  That is a direct vote "for the" representative, not the laws.  The representative was direct vote, the laws were not directly voted on by voters.  

 If I have direct line of sight and shoot a rabbit I directly killed the rabbit.  If I do not have direct line of sight and my hunting partner shoots a rabbit, because I chose that hunting partner, I did not directly kill the rabbit.  I was accessory, therefore having a degree of responsibility, but am not directly responsible for shooting the rabbit.  



THE  majority of Voting PEOPLE of CO, DECIDED, What they want.
 Despite your SPINNING and totally unnecessary words.


 The only one spinning is you because you can't accept that direct vote means voting directly for something, and in this case I was referring to gun laws - Not representatives.  The voter can still be responsible for their voting actions, and not be part of a direct vote on a specific law.  





Title: Re: New landlords
Post by JOG on 09/01/24 at 09:16:43

The CO voter, VOTED for,
A PERSON, that Voted to make a UL FDS Decision.

They VOTED for a person on this or that side of the issue.
 (KNOWING  in most probability, HOW THEY WILL VOTE)

This is true.
However he may have labeled it, is immaterial.
Nothing changes the fact that the voters elected someone who they had every reason to believe that he would vote in ways that would damage the state.
Whatever definition you say,, BFD, nothing changes the fact that the voters chose someone who they knew would be a disaster,,
The same people who support the insanity in charge of the border,, so yeah, they voted For what they are getting.

A Buncha you lefties are Not YET getting what You have voted for.
Not YET,,
I just hope it gets to all of you before it gets to me..
I'm gonna Laff and Laff,,  

Title: Re: New landlords
Post by Eegore on 09/01/24 at 13:19:02


This is true.
However he may have labeled it, is immaterial.


 That's what I am thinking for the most part.  


Nothing changes the fact that the voters elected someone who they had every reason to believe that he would vote in ways that would damage the state.
Whatever definition you say,, BFD, nothing changes the fact that the voters chose someone who they knew would be a disaster,,
The same people who support the insanity in charge of the border,, so yeah, they voted For what they are getting.


 There are cases however when politicians lie to get votes then don't honor what they say.  I know it's hard to believe.  In CO the gun-control thing doesn't seem to get a ton of attention during voting time unfortunately.  

 Denver policy should be an example of what not to do, but since it's "The Capital" people think they know what they are doing.


 

Title: Re: New landlords
Post by JOG on 09/01/24 at 13:43:16

Rumor has it the Hells Angels are heading for Aurora.

Title: Re: New landlords
Post by LANCER on 09/01/24 at 14:30:43


093C2F372C2B2F3C2A4E0 wrote:
Rumor has it the Hells Angels are heading for Aurora.



Interesting.
Do we know how many of the angels are on the way ?
If they are on the way.


Title: Re: New landlords
Post by Serowbot on 09/01/24 at 14:48:59

What are they going to do,... take over the building next door?

This is one building in one town in one state and the RNC are making it a national issue.
THEY'LL BE COMING FOR YOU NEXT!

Fear mongering to get out the vote
It'll be taken care of locally in week or so and only the residual fear will remain

Title: Re: New landlords
Post by MnSpring on 09/01/24 at 14:51:11

If the HS comes to town, to do what the Police are not allowed to do.
Problem could easily be solved.

Do Wonder about the situation ?

CBS says:
“Venezuelan gang activity confirmed by Aurora officials after release of Colorado woman's surveillance video”

“…Officials in Aurora have begun to acknowledge the presence of Venezuelan gang activity in their Colorado city after the release of a terrifying surveillance video….”

The Denver Post says:
“Is Aurora overrun by a gang of illegal immigrants?
Of course not. ”


“…There is no conspiracy to cover up activity of Tren de Aragua in Colorado …”

“The conservative and liberal mayors of Aurora and Denver have even come together to dispel the sensationalized reports of rampant gun violence.”


Just wonder which it is ?

Have been told,
a Vote that made,
a Representative/Senator win his/hers election, has NOTHING TO DO, with that person voting in a UL, WOKE, FDS, DFI, Way.





Title: Re: New landlords
Post by Eegore on 09/01/24 at 15:57:44

Have been told,
a Vote that made,
a Representative/Senator win his/hers election, has NOTHING TO DO, with that person voting in a UL, WOKE, FDS, DFI, Way.



 I wonder where you heard that.  I haven't seen one person, on this forum say anything like voters have "NOTHING TO DO," with Representative vote outcomes.   But with some Spin, one can infer it instead of just acknowledging what was actually said.  if indeed it is interpreted as something said here.

  I have however indicated that voters have a degree of responsibility for policy by directly voting for Representatives that in turn enact gun laws that were not directly voted for, specifically by CO citizen voters.

 Voters have directly voted for Representatives but have not directly voted for immigration policy since immigration policy has not been put up for direct vote on a ballot.

 That can be Spun and repeated as: I heard a guy say voters have NOTHING TO DO with immigration policy.  But it won't make it true since that was never said or implied.  






 
 

Title: Re: New landlords
Post by Eegore on 09/01/24 at 16:01:26

JOG wrote on Today at 13:43:16:
Rumor has it the Hells Angels are heading for Aurora.


Interesting.
Do we know how many of the angels are on the way ?
If they are on the way.



 If they are none of them are saying anything.  All the videos are from Sturgis a couple of years back.  I would say it's highly unlikely to happen in complete silence from actual Hell's Angels, who incidentally already have 3 public Chapters in CO and a Nomad Chapter.  Some have been known to run drugs in that entire area so I'd say there's a chance of competition with TDA, or cooperation.  I have no idea.

Title: Re: New landlords
Post by JOG on 09/01/24 at 16:24:59

Yeah,,, until we see them There and engaging,, it's a rumor.

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