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Message started by Ruttly on 05/22/24 at 10:12:52

Title: What is to old ?
Post by Ruttly on 05/22/24 at 10:12:52

Wow , hurtful words. Someone told me it’s time to quit riding. I’m thankful people care but I’ve been riding since I was 7. Only 57 years on two wheels.
It’s so clear to see when walk , I quite literally ride better than I walk. Have calmed down a bit except when I get a free shot at a R/R crossing. Learning to appreciate gentle rides in the country and all the scenery. They all forget that’s who I am and what I do , period ! If you were to remove me from my bikes I would just curl up and die. Maybe they read what I write here and maybe they will see they made a gross monumental mistake in making that statement. Way more hurt than pissed off at how inconsiderate it was , maybe it was meant to be hurtful but for another reason. IDK , IDC !
So what is too old to ride ? Doesn’t surviving 57 years of riding mean anything ?    >:(

Title: Re: What is to old ?
Post by Dave on 05/22/24 at 11:19:09

Deb just had some surgery, and as the young fellow was pushing her wheelchair to the car young man and I started talking about motorcycles.  I showed him a photo of me racing in 1974.  I was about to tell him that he wasn't born yet - when it suddenly dawned on me that it was likely that his parents weren't even born yet!  It turned out that his dad was in first grade when the photo was taken....that made me feel a slight bit better!

As long as you are still physically able to operate the motorcycle and have a sharp mind - you are not too old to ride.

There is a local group of riders that meet every Friday for lunch, and sometimes we go on rides.  At 68 years old I am the youngest rider in the bunch.  When I first started riding with them a few years ago there were 3 men that were right at 80 years old (Greg, Bill, Ron).    Greg was a former racer in the Cincinnati area in the 60's and a great rider - he would lead the rides.  Bill was a very good rider and would ride second, I would ride third.....Ron and the others would follow (and often fall behind as well if we got riding too fast).  About 3 years went by and all three riders gave up riding and sold their motorcycles - they just didn't feel safe riding anymore.

So - at 68 I feel like I have the potential to ride another 12 years if I use the other local riders as a database.  I may have to get smaller and lighter bikes - my 650 pound motorcycle is a bit of a challenge for me right now.....I suspect I have another 4 years or riding it if I stay strong enough to hold it up.

Here is a photo of me racing a 1974 TM125 in a 2 hour Hare Scrambles.


Title: Re: What is to old ?
Post by Dave on 05/22/24 at 11:25:15

Here is a photo of Ron Clark at 80 year old riding his Sportster.

Title: Re: What is to old ?
Post by Ruttly on 05/22/24 at 12:31:24

Cool , a young Super Dave in action. Ron rides the same Sportster as me. Sportster is heavy but has a low cog that helps a lot. Ya know all most nothing bothers me but that struck a nerve deep inside ! The kind of comment that is not easily forgotten. In need of review , absolutely not.  
Guess it bothers me greatly that  someone ( besides my doctor ) thinks they know what is best for me. Mental health , you can’t touch it , smell it , taste it , see it , but if you listen you will hear it. I don’t call the tracker
“The Healer” for nothing. Between building and riding it keeps me focused and happy.  Can’t believe I let someone get inside my head. Really want to confront them about it  , but why , I’ll just go riding when I see them. ::)

Title: Re: What is to old ?
Post by youzguyz on 05/22/24 at 12:37:59

As one of my shirts says: You don't stop riding because you get old.  You get old because you stop riding.
Picture is me.  Somewhere around 1974.   On my 1972 Suzuki Savage (TS250).

Title: Re: What is to old ?
Post by Ruttly on 05/22/24 at 13:09:34

Thank You. I might understand if I crashed or repeatedly dropped my bike. But no  , just a stabbing commment out of the blue. Maybe the only way they could get at me or maybe no bad intentions at all.
I love that pic , 70’s all the way

Title: Re: What is to old ?
Post by Dave on 05/22/24 at 13:59:27

In Youzguyz photo:

His TS250 Savage.
A TS400 Apache
A Honda SL....perhaps a 350.
A Suzuki GT550 Indy?

Title: Re: What is to old ?
Post by Ruttly on 05/22/24 at 14:36:10

I was doing the same thing Dave, ;D

Title: Re: What is to old ?
Post by MMRanch on 05/22/24 at 18:39:40

Hay Ruttly

I was a 1953 Baby .

In 2017 I got rid of my 2007 Sportster when I found the  200 pound lighter Guzzi V7II

In 2022 I sold my Guzzi and got a RE-350 Meteor.   The Guzzi carried it's weight high and the RE's weight is Low.  They both weigh close to the same amount - about the same as a Stock S-40.

With the right bike I think I'll be ridding as long as I can walk ?   Ridding is a lot easier !   ;D ;D ;D

Doesn't the Tracker ride "Low and Light" ?   Maybe some other folks are a little Jealous !?!  :-?

Hay , as I get older ... I'm liking the back-roads Putt-Putt stuff more and more .    Heck , I might get one of those 150cc Honda Dual-Sport bike in a few years ?   ;)
Maybe , who-ever told you :  "Your getting to OLD to play with them Motor-Cycles"  , needs you to tell them to :  "Get one of those 150cc Dual-Sports"  , before ya get too old to enjoy life !  ?  ::)
Sometimes ... Reaching out for "HELP" takes many forms ?  ;)


You know we're not too old and will most likely never be , even at 100 years young.  8-)













Title: Re: What is to old ?
Post by MMRanch on 05/22/24 at 19:25:14

I remember those 125cc street bikes from the 1970's and 80's  , Some of them were "nice little bikes" !  

Who couldn't ride a 250 pound bike !  
https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/yamaha/yamaha_rd125%2073.htm

or

https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/Honda/honda_cb125t_84.html

Title: Re: What is to old ?
Post by verslagen1 on 05/22/24 at 22:16:40

OG... I don't think I'm old enough for this.  

Title: Re: What is to old ?
Post by zipidachimp on 05/22/24 at 22:29:50

In 2019, on my way to Barber, stopped for a leak near Huntsville,, an old guy rolled in behind me on a new HD 3-wheeler.
In talking, he's a lawyer from Northern Kentucky, 83 years old, on his way to Barber to meet his son. Decided that 83 sounds like an attainable goal, 3 years to go! Saving for a Triumph Speed 400!
Cheers!  8-)

Title: Re: What is to old ?
Post by Ruttly on 05/23/24 at 00:15:08

I think it was luck that they found my last remaining nerve that could cause an actual reaction. That and the other context in that one way conversation lead me to the conclusion that it was intentional , but excusable. Was like steppin on a nail in tennis shoes , after the nail pops thru the sole and punctures your foot , instant pain. Of course I plan to ride for years for many years. Never had anyone say it. Plan on goin on tour someday , I’ll have to bring the tracker and the 250  , places to go and people to meet. There is several older riders than I here and I respect their opinions , probably a sore subject for many. Already plan on having a e-bike or 2 stashed for when that happens.  ;D

Title: Re: What is to old ?
Post by Ruttly on 05/23/24 at 00:54:53

I should make it very clear that was not my wife. If there is anything she understands about me is my love for motorcycles. And often times she knows I ain’t been out for a spell , so she tells me “why don’t you go get us this or that” , always a backpackable item , on your bike. Why , one man leaves and comes back with a reboot and a smile , I’m a lucky guy ! I prefer to ride alone most of the time , makes for a greater adventure. But I thrive on an unknown road , see where it takes me. Seems curiousity totally over rides any fears of riding alone. That’s adventure !

Title: Re: What is to old ?
Post by Serowbot on 05/23/24 at 07:01:51

Too old is when you can no longer hoist your wheelchair onto the luggage rack  :-?

Title: Re: What is to old ?
Post by Michael Moore on 05/23/24 at 09:13:47

I too had 2T Suzukis.  I started out on a used B105P (120cc) and several years later I bought a new TS185R in the summer of 1971 when I was working at a local Suzuki/Triumph/BMW dealership.  I raced it a few months later in my first MX (3rd place behind a Bultaco 125 Sherpa S and a Hodaka Super Rat) and at the end of the year when the 72's came out I bought the 1971 TM400 the shop had been sponsoring a local expert on.  

I thought the TS185 was the best size/power combo compared to the TS125 (less power) and TS250 (more weight/bulk).

I'll be 71 in September.  I wish SF Bay Area traffic wasn't so sketchy as I am not that keen on going riding and mixing it up with the lunatics.

Title: Re: What is to old ?
Post by springman on 05/23/24 at 09:19:19

Though I have only been riding for about 10 years (I'm 66), I too want to continue riding until I determine it is unsafe for me to do so. I don't know who got under your skin Ruttly, but the heck with them. Be honest with yourself and trust yourself.

You guys sort of make me jealous, I have loved 2 wheelers since I was a little kid but never owned on until the last 10 years and here you guys have been riding all your lives. I salute you guys!!!

Oh, I almost hate to say this, even though I did notice and look over all the bikes in YouzGuyz picture, what really caught my, besides his youth, were those moccasins man. Those were cool!!! 8-) ;D

Title: Re: What is to old ?
Post by LANCER on 05/23/24 at 10:04:11

Ruttly, I have a good wife who routinely tells me I should go for a ride … not because of a mood but just because I’ve not ridden for a spell.  
Yes, I am blessed.

Title: Re: What is to old ?
Post by Ruttly on 05/23/24 at 12:56:22

I’ll start working on the brackets for wheelchair. I know our wives cringe a bit when telling us to go ride. But that is love , your love for the bike , the years of trust between wife & you , that makes her ok to say go for a ride. She understands & trusts you , cause deep down she knows it makes you whole again & again. Trust me they notice the joy in your heart when you return home.  I have friends with wives that won’t let them ride. I wouldn’t have gotten married if she didn’t under stand that there was 7 other women in this relationship , 1 with feet and 7 with wheels.

Title: Re: What is to old ?
Post by ohiomoto on 05/23/24 at 17:13:33

I love the old pictures guys!!  

I say live your life the way you want to as long as you.  

Title: Re: What is to old ?
Post by MMRanch on 05/23/24 at 20:44:38

Dang Versey !   You would look good on one of them nice tall 125 Dual Sport Machines !   ;D

https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/Honda/honda_xl125s_76.html

Do you remember the utube video of those two guys from Calf.  (Zach and ??)  ridding all the way across Wyoming on Dual Sports and never letting their tires touch pavement ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFD8e3A2wUY

Now do you feel old enough ?   :)

Hay , we could do a version of this one !   ;)
..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6igdCnYjBt4

Title: Re: What is to old ?
Post by verslagen1 on 05/23/24 at 22:22:11


180A180A07141B161D550 wrote:
Do you remember the utube video of those two guys from Calf.  (Zach and ??)  ridding all the way across Wyoming on Dual Sports and never letting their tires touch pavement ?


carrying a bike across a road seems a bit foolish.

Title: Re: What is to old ?
Post by Ruttly on 05/24/24 at 00:05:53

There is a club , I’m not sure from where but it’s SBBA Small Bike Big Adventures. I think it’s only 350cc or less and road legal. Do rides in different places. I read an article awhile back on it. Sounds interesting. I’m gonna put some miles on my 250 when it’s done. My little British vintage street scrambler should be a real kick to ride. I’m ok on smaller roads & backroads , no hurry ! Much prefer the slower scenic routes , it is exploration & adventure. Oh and those side roads that beckon me with promises on new discoveries or a short cut , my kind of riding. Only road in America still calls my name is Pikes Peak even if it’s paved all the way up now , kinda took the thrill away , but still holds lots of thrills. Even on a 250.

Title: Re: What is to old ?
Post by MMRanch on 05/24/24 at 08:07:32

 carrying a bike across a road seems a bit foolish.  

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Yaaa , My idea would be to get out the roll of tollet paper .    ;)

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Ruttly , I've got a 350cc and under ... and like it - 50/60mph - ridding is GOOD !   :)

Maybe  I should look into the Moab , Utah adventure for latter this summer ?  
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https://sbba2024-61.webselfsite.net/home?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR0Sxw8a2stvj7QfeF6cialwSGfrfH-IIPDNM4APjVAVsT2MsQa5Nma-70s_aem_AQl1g5C_KuWaS-neFVTGVicvZb8NC5_VsDSkbkyISlwd0dLk9OfaDantUV1ngtZEuwxFCzO-PrCFS7C0GiM9sEVz

My 350cc  is too NEW !   Still is fun !
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Hay , I was just looking at this ride agenda :

All the details are already worked out and a Local Motel can be had for $125/night for three beds and free Wi-Fi !   I wonder if a "Weekly rental Motel" might be even more wallet friendly or even a near by "Camping Cabin" ?  

Am I the only one who thinks this might be a nice ride to take ?  

https://www.booking.com/searchresults.html?aid=1430043&label=VR-SR-DL-desktop-c300-6c727e01-f41b-df6c-a36f-8b31354bbffe_p4261228&utm_medium=partner&utm_source=aff_cj&highlighted_hotels=501357&checkin=2024-08-18&redirected=1&city=20119976&hlrd=with_av&source=hotel&checkout=2024-08-24&keep_landing=1&sid=d4b7d4750001679435bd515d6becb5a6

https://www.blackhillswhisperingpines.com/rates

https://www.fs.usda.gov/activity/blackhills/recreation/camping-cabins/?recid=25823&actid=29

The options seem endless !

Title: Re: What is to old ?
Post by Graybeard on 05/25/24 at 19:21:11

I'll Quit when I Can't. If I was physically able I'd get a ten speed and go scare myself drifting through corners. Ya don't really feel The Burn when you're totally focused on staying off the asphalt. Just having that bike will get me out of the house when the body is Done with Doing the stuff that needs done and I'm bummed that doing any more will mean Tomorrow is gonna Sukk, so I sit and drink beer and smoke cigarettes.
BP was in the Below Stroke Range when I got home. 151/80 and No Meds for Ten Hours! Unheard of..
Might as well go ahead and just tell you guys,,
My wife died, Feb first. Found out she had cancer Jan 7th. She was gone in 24 days.
Before anyone starts the
I'm so sorry for your loss, you didn't know her. She was really something else. She did mean things and enjoyed hiding behind the
I'm a woman, you can't touch me shield.
Anyway, I'm single, working on Me, and Maybe next year I can make a weekend with some of you. What I will do with the dogs,,I dunno..

Any questions or comments, it's cool. I'm not gonna be hurt or bothered.

Title: Re: What is to old ?
Post by MMRanch on 05/25/24 at 21:12:22

Graybeard

I think everybody has some area of their life that hasn't worked out as well as we hope.

I've been blessed with a GREAT WIFE , but worked at a really Sorry Job.   Matter of fact :

I seemed to have a tuff time the first part of my life , I went through two divorce's , and had a job I hated.   It seemed no matter what I tried it didn't work out ... I didn't know where to turn ???
One night I had fallen asleep with the radio on and when I woke up there was a show called "UN-Shackled" playing  .    
I thought it was a corny show but I was too comfortable to get up and turn it off.

Over the next few weeks I got to looking forward to hearing the next story of those folks kinda like me who were having a hard time of things.
Hearing , storys from other folks and the way they turned out changed my whole out-look on life.    That "ROAD" led me onto  the life of a BLESSED MAN.    

Now that your getting on a new path , I hope and pray that your path leads you to blessing  like I've have found , and like I believe a lot of the other fellers here on SS.com have found.   There is never a dry bottom in the water-well I've been drinking from.

Glad to have you along brother !   :)

here is a picture of my first Savage
That crash bar , seat and floor boards are all Harley parts ... those second hand saddlebag might have been HD parts too ?   ;D

Yaaa , that is really a VW car tire on the rear .  ::)

Title: Re: What is to old ?
Post by Graybeard on 05/25/24 at 23:00:06

I found what you are talking about almost nine years ago. We each get a path. I'd chat with you about it All, but I'm not willing to type it. It's too involved. It's been quite the journey.

Title: Re: What is to old ?
Post by LANCER on 05/26/24 at 05:26:47

It’s a journey for each of us.  Everyone has a personalized road they must walk, designed by our Creator for our benefit.  
“We know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose.”  Rm. 8:28

With perseverance, we must continue our walk with Him, as He provides grace to strengthen and encourage us until he calls us home.  As we trust Him, He gives us peace.   Be encouraged, there are others on the same road.


Title: Re: What is to old ?
Post by Graybeard on 05/26/24 at 06:26:51

Everyone has a personalized road they must walk,

Run Your race. Not The race.
I agree with everything you said. And it Is a comfort, knowing that others understand what I'm talking about when I say certain things. Some know, already. Some understand that it's correct, they just haven't gotten The Prize yet,and then there are those who are just Certain that I'm an idiot, believing in an imaginary thing.. I'm okay with that.
What's the Worst thing that could happen to anyone?
IMO,it would be finding a way to be emotionally Okay in life, reasonably contented, without ever suffering enough to go in search of God.
Oopsies..

Title: Re: What is to old ?
Post by LANCER on 05/26/24 at 09:49:02

Most of the world tries to goes that way, but they find out in the end that it’s a dead end street.  
Our job is to be watchful, and when God provides an opportunity to speak to  or do something for someone in need, we are to tell or show who sustains us in the middle of trials.

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