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Title: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by Eegore on 12/19/23 at 20:26:23 So they pulled it off. I didn't really think the chance of success was very high given the prior ruling, but the Colorado Supreme Court pulled Trump from the qualified state ballot for Presidential candidates. https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/Supreme_Court/Opinions/2023/23SA300.pdf They have until Jan 05 to get a final ruling from the SCOTUS. The real question is if any of this is worth changing my State citizenship over. |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by thumperclone on 12/20/23 at 03:31:01 he can add insurrectionist to his resume :) |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by WebsterMark on 12/20/23 at 05:36:12 4767656D7067020 wrote:
No. This genuine instance of “court insurrection” will not stand. Besides, you need to be available to vote in favor of common sense candidates for your state, whether they be Republican or Democrat. And this could be used as a litmus test. Any candidate justifying this decision is unworthy of elected office. |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by WebsterMark on 12/20/23 at 05:55:03 Ramaswamy says he’ll demand his name removed from any ballot in Colorado and asks DeSantis and Haley to do the same. If I were those two, I’d agree on the condition Ramaswamy pledges to never tout as a demonstration of his leadership skills, he was the one to organize this. If he agreed to that, they should do it. And this is far fetched, but Biden should demand his name be removed as well. Not only has Trump not been charged with insurrection, he has never been convicted of anything. It’s hard to overstate how ridiculous this decision is. Now that an impeachment hearing against Biden has been scheduled, what’s to prevent a state from removing Biden from the ballot based simply on allegations he took money from our chief competitor(enemy) in the world, China, and thus is guilty of “…or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.” .? |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by Serowbot on 12/20/23 at 06:26:28 If Trump stays on the ballot, there are a lot of former Trumpers that are now never Trumpers. If Trump is taken off the ballot there are alot of MAGA cultists that will never vote for anyone other than Trump. Win win Watching a slo-mo train wreck that's plays ugly in forward or reverse |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by MnSpring on 12/20/23 at 07:32:11 What would one call the people, in a governing body ? That believes giving away Tax Payer money Is better than addressing a homeless camp, that has caused Tax Paying Businesses to loose revenue. Could the same people, be going back to, a person, ’gets a hanging, cause they deserve it ? |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by Serowbot on 12/20/23 at 08:21:49 193A0724263D3A33540 wrote:
???????????????????? :-? |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by thumperclone on 12/20/23 at 08:55:30 this is the second court to enter a formal judgement of insurrection against the diaper don.. read COVICTION |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by WebsterMark on 12/20/23 at 09:00:59 1305120F17020F14600 wrote:
But you can’t be more wrong. This is a lose – lose situation. It’s an awful decision. The Supreme Court will absolutely overturn this and all this does is drive a wedge between groups of people even deeper. An absolutely terrible decision. And I guess I’m prophetic because the attorney general from Texas had a similar thought as I did but with a twist. In his view, because Biden is failing to enforce the requirement to protect the United States based upon his lax border enforcement policy, he is an ineligible to be President under the 14th amendment. My view is that because Biden is under impeachment inquiry, and there are allegations he took money from China, an enemy of the United States, he is ineligible to run for president. There’s no difference between the two situations. If Trump’s not eligible, Biden is not either. But I don’t want that. The decision those four fruitcakes made is ridiculous. And as a sign of how ridiculous it is, there are seven Democrats on that court and three of them recognized its ridiculousness so may there’s hope yet. |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by zevenenergie on 12/20/23 at 10:43:58 What's worst to me is that the Democrats don't realize how ridiculous the situation is becoming. If you're okay with your president being a thingy, (I can't imagine that, but) okay so be it. But that you agree with getting rid of Trump for political reasons and that within a two-party system. Then you have lost all sense of proportions. I mean, you don't stay whit a spin doctor if you have something wrong with your balls. Then you're going to use your common sense and say; hey dude, go play with your own balls. (I use some coarse language because I think it's more understandable) What's wrong with your cut feeling? One of the two pillars of democracy is being sawed out from under your ass. Are you fine whit that? |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by Serowbot on 12/20/23 at 12:58:13 697665767D767D7661747A76130 wrote:
It wasn't at all ?????????????? :-? |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by thumperclone on 12/20/23 at 13:27:35 One of the two pillars of democracy is being sawed out from under your ass. there are three pillars (branches) to our democracy legislative, judicial, executive our political parties have evolved through out our history |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by zevenenergie on 12/21/23 at 02:46:33 I don't think most people in the hysterical states of America realize that just about everything is degenerating. And mainly in the political field, but also in the scientific field. And especially if you compare it with the emerging economies. That cannot be otherwise. If you let a group of elderly people run a company and the competitors are fanatically driven young people. You will fall behind, which will result in a takeover. The focus of the Americans should be much more on collectively understanding the hopeless situation they have found themselves in. And then the whole government in the ultrasonic cleaner... If you need an 80 year old because he is a trusted face then there is something wrong with how you are running the country. The focus now is on eliminating an opponent. This shows how incompetent the current government is. And the Democrats are eating it like cake. They support it. The focus of voters should be to wake up the next layer. Your country can only be pulled out of the spiral of degeneration if change comes from below. The victory the Democrats hope to celebrate is nothing more than the greatest disruption the Hysterical States of America's have ever experienced. If there wil be no overall evolution, America will become something like India 50 years ago. A third world country with buildings everywhere that are reminiscent of a very wealthy period. What do you do when your head is full of thoughts that hopelessly mess up your life? Then you shift your attention to your body. Then you feel the natural rhythm of breathing and the grounding it provides. And the well-being that comes from that. |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by WebsterMark on 12/21/23 at 05:47:43 I don't think most people in the hysterical states of America realize that just about everything is degenerating. And mainly in the political field, but also in the scientific field. And especially if you compare it with the emerging economies. I think there’s a lot to this. Liberals are destroying the historic structure of this country. Coupled with the fact we aren’t having enough babies and the Democratic Get-Out-The-Vote program is bringing in millions of young people from all over the world, we will slowly become unrecognizable and certainly not the world leader within a few generations. The country my beautiful granddaughter will grown up with her own family will be second tier and potentially dangerous to her. Nothing will be better. Not a single thing. Nothing. I hate leftist for that. I have this thought it very well could be India that slowly begins ruling the world. As motorcyclists, we should know many bikes are made in India. Obviously Royal Enfield, but the new Triumph Scrambler, some Harleys, some very popular KTMs, some BMWs and of course HERO which is the largest motorcycle manufacturer in the world. The bottom line is leftist liberals suck and like ants, there should be a poison barrier you can spray that forces them to go ruin someone else’s country. |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by WebsterMark on 12/21/23 at 05:49:00 2F332E362B3E29383734353E5B0 wrote:
Could you name those and cite the conviction record? |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by thumperclone on 12/21/23 at 06:02:32 4C7E79686F7E69567A69701B0 wrote:
Could you name those and cite the conviction record? [/quote] two Colorado courts |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by thumperclone on 12/21/23 at 06:19:46 [quote author=607F6C7F747F747F687D737F1A0 link=1703046383/0#12 date=1703155593]I don't think most people in the hysterical states of America realize that just about everything is degenerating. Putin propaganda |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by Eegore on 12/21/23 at 09:35:28 Could you name those and cite the conviction record? two Colorado courts Deeming a candidate ineligible does not require a conviction and in itself is not a conviction. |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by Serowbot on 12/21/23 at 09:57:36 Trump's written speech of Jan 6 said the word "fight" one time. He said "fight" 20 times during that speech. 19 were ad libs. "Former President Donald Trump denied riling up the crowd at his Stop the Steal rally that preceded the insurrection at the Capitol on Jan. 6. “I have nothing to hide, I wasn’t involved in that and if you look at my words and what I said in the speech, they were extremely calming, actually.”" He meant,... calm fighting... :-? |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by WebsterMark on 12/21/23 at 10:20:38 7A667B637E6B7C6D6261606B0E0 wrote:
Could you name those and cite the conviction record? [/quote] two Colorado courts[/quote] Thank you for the reminder why I need to go back to ignoring what you’re write. |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by WebsterMark on 12/21/23 at 10:24:52 2A3C2B362E3B362D590 wrote:
So any politician using inflammatory words in speechs referencing George Floyd protest can be charged with murder since people were killed in those peaceful protests ? |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by Serowbot on 12/21/23 at 10:37:41 I don't know. Is Trump being charged with murder? You good with that? |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by WebsterMark on 12/21/23 at 11:23:55 293F28352D38352E5A0 wrote:
I actually believe in free speech, unlike liberal leftist. No, the Democratic politicians, who riled up protesters who later ended up killing people should not be charged with murder. And Trump did not lead an actual insurrection, did not participate in an actual insurrection and did not support an actual insurrection. It’s all made up by a complicit media and brainwashed TDS infected fools believe every word of it. Now….. Merry Christmas and Happy New Years. |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by thumperclone on 12/21/23 at 11:32:21 586A6D7C7B6A7D426E7D640F0 wrote:
Could you name those and cite the conviction record? [/quote] two Colorado courts[/quote] Thank you for the reminder why I need to go back to ignoring what you’re write. [/quote] can't stant the truth eh? |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by zevenenergie on 12/21/23 at 12:47:35 534F524A574255444B484942270 wrote:
This is a hysterical response |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by zevenenergie on 12/21/23 at 12:47:57 4E584F524A5F52493D0 wrote:
This is a hysterical response |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by zevenenergie on 12/21/23 at 12:58:47 Why can't you just say that Trump is a candidate you don't like? And why don't you vote for someone who is better? Were you afraid of Trump? Apparently yes, because there was nothing better than Biden available, so you had to steal the election and now neutralize Trump. There you have thrown your "voter's integrity" overboard. And now your country has been turned into a banana republic. I'm curious to know what you think will happen next now that you have shown the whole world how things stand in the HSA. Your main export products are war and democracy and the latter appears to be spoiled so you can no longer peddle that. Nice job guys. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgU3YyzSbDw |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by thumperclone on 12/22/23 at 02:36:20 5A7A78706D7A1F0 wrote:
conviction: formal declaration that someone is guilty of a criminal offence, made by the verdict of a jury or the decision of a judge or in a court of law |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by zevenenergie on 12/22/23 at 06:22:22 http://https://i.imgur.com/YwmM4sfm.png You shouldn't have done that. |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by Eegore on 12/22/23 at 06:49:13 conviction: formal declaration that someone is guilty of a criminal offence, made by the verdict of a jury or the decision of a judgr in a court of law The Colorado Supreme Court stayed their ruling. This is not a conviction by their own assessment. Are they wrong? If Trump was "convicted" of a crime, why are organizations like CNN avoiding the term completely? Why are political opponents? I get it that there is a consensus that Trump did engage in an insurrection and the argument is that the decision(s) does not apply to the position of POTUS because the 14th does not explicitly state the position of POTUS in it. The CO Supreme Court disagrees and does think that the "Office" of POTUS is included in the 14th. I personally find it interesting that the POTUS could be excluded from the 14th. The only people that think the POTUS can't commit insurrection are people that like the guy in question. Any POTUS they do not like however is a different story. However, disqualifying Trump from the ballot in itself is not a conviction, at least not until this decision becomes official. |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by Serowbot on 12/22/23 at 07:09:32 685A5D4C4B5A4D725E4D543F0 wrote:
Do you believe you can yell fire in a crowded theater? If presidents are immune to any prosecution,... Biden can declare himself President.......... forever. Hunter is his successor Chew on that.............. |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by MnSpring on 12/22/23 at 08:51:15 “… or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof …” above directly from the 14th Wonder why Biden is not charged/convicted of that ? It is Cristal clear he has ‘ given aid or comfort to the enemies’ of the USA. “.What does the text mean by “insurrection or rebellion”?.” Was Trump, ‘Convicted of’, Or, ‘Accused of’, ? “.Who gets to rule on which people have “engaged” in an insurrection?.” Apparently, it is same type of people, that are applauded, for making a FAX severed head, and encouraged others to do the same, by any media they choose, (and they did) But Hey, No Problem. NO PUPPET Masters running this Nation, (PROOF is, JFK never boinked MM, Or Teddy Never drove drunk) |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by zevenenergie on 12/22/23 at 09:55:39 293F28352D38352E5A0 wrote:
Do you believe you can yell fire in a crowded theater? If presidents are immune to any prosecution,... Biden can declare himself President.......... forever. Hunter is his successor Chew on that.............. [/quote] Look, you first completely blacken an excellent candidate with all the resources you have at your disposal. Then you steal the elections and then you bombard him with lawsuits that are politically motivated to ensure that he cannot be re-elected. (Chew it deeply to release all the flavors) With fair elections and healthy voters, a bad candidate will not be re-elected. But Democrats know full well that way more than half of Americans will want to see Biden resign. The main stream media will not testify to this because they are anything but independent 2024 has things in store that America has never seen before. Then you don't want to see an old corrupt man and a pimped-up junkie on television, copying a spider doctor to show that Biden is also a great father of the homeland. This time Russia will win in Eastern Europe and the Arabs in the Middle East and America and the West will lose all control in Africa, and the Chinese will take Taiwan in a way that will make Biden's buttocks look like a Picasso. (I think he will have to apply Nozema for the rest of his life) He will go down in history as the president with the most bruised butt America has ever had. The current government of America is as good as inpotent, make a nice election story out of that. |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by Eegore on 12/22/23 at 09:59:35 The current government of America is as good as inpotent, make a nice election story out of that. Why bother, it will be called fake news. |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by zevenenergie on 12/22/23 at 10:12:13 And that is truly true, because politics is fake. Trump as a businessman brought some truth to it. And fake can't handle that. |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by Serowbot on 12/22/23 at 10:43:07 You've had way too much Trump Vodka |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by WebsterMark on 12/22/23 at 11:53:01 5345524F57424F54200 wrote:
Do you believe you can yell fire in a crowded theater? If presidents are immune to any prosecution,... Biden can declare himself President.......... forever. Hunter is his successor Chew on that.............. [/quote] Of course not. The crowded theater example is well established and a poor example to bring up. Trump did not plan or lead an insurrection. It’s debatable if Jan 6 meets the definition of an insurrection to begin with. The question is does Trump using phrases deemed inflammatory during a riot growing out of control make him guilty of insurrection? You say yes it was an insurrection and yes, he was part of it. I say no to both. If you’re right, then many Democratic politicians are guilty for being a part of the insurrection on the night insurrectionist tried to penetrate the White House but were prevented by competent and numerous guards or during during Trump’s inauguration when the city was packed with insurrectionist egged by on Democrats and political pundits who were trying to interfere with and stop the election results Just because a media united in its hatred for Trump succeeded in cementing the idea that Jan 6 was an actual insurrection doesn’t make it one. Be careful what you wish for leftist. If Trump or any Republican wins in 24, the hypocrisy of explaining away the terror leftist will unleash on the nation might drown you. |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by zevenenergie on 12/22/23 at 12:38:41 And I think that by dismissing Trump in this way, you mean the more than 50% who voted for him and did not see Trump elected. they'll be really pissed off if they can't vote for him. You have made them distrustful of anything democratic for the rest of their lives. http://https://i.imgur.com/r0ifx95m.jpg Not only that, but it also triggers deep wounds. I'm sure Putin is involved somewhere as well. And I am 100% sure that China is involved in this. Trump is a formidable opponent. And anyone who has power wants him out of the way. |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by zevenenergie on 12/22/23 at 13:15:39 Do you remember Nicolas Cage? In the movie family man? His wife begged him to stay. But he got on the plane anyway. The next sene 11 years later he is in bed with a very *friendly* person (but a beautiful one). It's the same with America. I tried to get you to do the right thing. It did not help. Soon you will be lonely in a hotel room with a very *friendly* person (but a beautiful one). I'll leave it at this. My job as a foreign influencer in the American elections is over. I give you back to yourselves. Be good to your country. It's the only country you have. |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by thumperclone on 12/23/23 at 05:49:07 I'll leave it at this. My job as a foreign influencer in the American elections is over. THANK YOU |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by Serowbot on 12/23/23 at 06:44:28 That dog means business |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by WebsterMark on 12/23/23 at 12:54:50 Putin and China have nothing to do with this. It’s all leftists working to change the structure of the nation’s society which will destroy this once great Republic. |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by Serowbot on 12/23/23 at 14:21:23 Pet me... ,,,or else http://https://i.imgur.com/r0ifx95m.jpg |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by Serowbot on 12/23/23 at 14:22:59 Feliz Navifrikkendad... http://https://i.imgur.com/r0ifx95m.jpg |
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Title: Re: Trump removed from CO ballot Post by thumperclone on 12/24/23 at 02:25:04 1B292E3F38293E012D3E274C0 wrote:
how do you know that?? I don't remember seeing you at our last lefties meeting |
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