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Message started by WebsterMark on 11/05/23 at 06:57:19

Title: Finding the truth
Post by WebsterMark on 11/05/23 at 06:57:19

“ The closest a citizen can get to real news in 2023 is using X (Twitter)and comparing the fake news from all sources, left and right, and doing your best to spot the bullshit.
If you think you follow unbiased news sources, I feel sorry for you. You must have slept through the past seven years.”

From Scott Adams, Dilbert creator.

I agree with this. You have to have multiple sources and then use your common sense to discern the truth or the most truthful, information.

Title: Re: Finding the truth
Post by Serowbot on 11/05/23 at 07:08:25

The problem with that is people will choose the stories that confirm their bias.
It only makes for stronger division.

It's like a tug of war with a rubber rope

Title: Re: Finding the truth
Post by Eegore on 11/05/23 at 07:11:23


 Nah just believe everything you see.  It's easier that way.

Title: Re: Finding the truth
Post by Serowbot on 11/05/23 at 07:22:49

I'm all for easy    :-?

Title: Re: Finding the truth
Post by thumperclone on 11/05/23 at 07:58:54

truth is perception

Title: Re: Finding the truth
Post by WebsterMark on 11/05/23 at 10:42:30


4F594E534B5E53483C0 wrote:
The problem with that is people will choose the stories that confirm their bias.
It only makes for stronger division.

It's like a tug of war with a rubber rope


Part of common sense is a commitment to talking in many different sources.

Title: Re: Finding the truth
Post by Serowbot on 11/05/23 at 10:49:59


182A2D3C3B2A3D022E3D244F0 wrote:
Part of common sense is a commitment to talking in many different sources.

And then choosing the one you like.
Not the one with the most evidence, science, or facts

Title: Re: Finding the truth
Post by WebsterMark on 11/05/23 at 10:51:54

It was wide spread left-wing news bias  that created Rush Limbaugh and eventually Fox News popularity.

Title: Re: Finding the truth
Post by Serowbot on 11/05/23 at 11:11:49

Oh sure

Title: Re: Finding the truth
Post by thumperclone on 11/05/23 at 11:47:12

truth
fox news is not biased
     :D

Title: Re: Finding the truth
Post by Serowbot on 11/05/23 at 15:09:20

Media Bias: How AllSides Provides Balanced, Unbiased News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTfYdIzxhiI
https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news

Title: Re: Finding the truth
Post by WebsterMark on 11/05/23 at 18:18:29


3026312C34212C37430 wrote:
Oh sure


That’s absolutely true.

Title: Re: Finding the truth
Post by WebsterMark on 11/05/23 at 18:20:14


637F627A677265747B787972170 wrote:
truth
fox news is not biased
     :D


I never said Fox News isn’t bias. In fact I’ve said the opposite. Of course they’re bias. I believe them to be closer to the truth than MSNBC for example.

Title: Re: Finding the truth
Post by MnSpring on 11/06/23 at 06:52:09


7365726F77626F74000 wrote:
"Not the one with the most evidence, science, or facts"

you mean like these FACTS,
which were derived from Evidence and Science ?

”…Minneapolis has been at the forefront of the de-fund the police movement and Ilhan Omar remains the biggest cheerleader of the policy.
After the Minneapolis City Council de-funded the police in December 2020,
shootings predictably rose by 250%, while homicides climbed 105%, and carjackings soared by 222%.
Criminals realize they won’t be held accountable …”



https://www.daliaforcongress.org/dalia-for-congress-issues

How about the FACT:
"...Firearm deaths include all deaths involving guns, such as homicide, suicide, and accidents.
More people in the US
die from suicide involving a firearm
than homicides or accidents...."


When the anti gun people inflate/fudge/'imply'/change the numbers.

(A-Yep, ban the red car because it was used to rob a bank)








Title: Re: Finding the truth
Post by MnSpring on 11/06/23 at 07:50:49

The TRUTH.

Concerning ‘Shootings with a Gun’

The VAST Majority of, ‘shootings’, are over turf/colors/dishing/etc. etc. etc. … in which, ’no one saw who”.
(In reality, no one will say,
because they are AFRAID)


The Anti Gun people do NOT separate those shooting, ONLY because it inflates the numbers.

A-Yep, ban that red car !!!!!!!!!!

And do not tell the TRUTH !

Title: Re: Finding the truth
Post by thumperclone on 11/06/23 at 08:13:52

11/6/23 mass shootings only to date 567

Title: Re: Finding the truth
Post by Eegore on 11/06/23 at 09:37:01


11/6/23 mass shootings only to date 567


 Do you have a reference?  The problem here as MnSpring points out is "mass shooting" is not clearly defined when people toss out these numbers.

 I for one do not consider gang violence to be "mass shootings" especially by humans that legally purchased firearms.  A lot of gun-control measures would never impact those inner-city numbers because the guns used aren't in the ban proposals and they don't legally purchase the firearm to begin wih.

Title: Re: Finding the truth
Post by Eegore on 11/06/23 at 09:39:35

The Anti Gun people do NOT separate those shooting, ONLY because it inflates the numbers.


 Sounds like all those death certificates of people dying FROM Covid when they actually died in a car wreck.  Should be in the thousands by now, I wonder why nobody has referenced them.
 

Title: Re: Finding the truth
Post by WebsterMark on 11/06/23 at 09:51:47

If there were 567 mass shootings, why do I only hear about the mass shooting once or twice a year?

Title: Re: Finding the truth
Post by thumperclone on 11/07/23 at 01:35:26


1A282F3E39283F002C3F264D0 wrote:
If there were 567 mass shootings, why do I only hear about the mass shooting once or twice a year?


maybe you're not paying attention?

Title: Re: Finding the truth
Post by WebsterMark on 11/07/23 at 04:59:19

Maybe (no maybe about it) you’re being lead around like a pet on a leash. You’re only given enough slack to sniff the bushes your owner wants you to sniff.

I (and conservatives in general) are free to roam. That’s why we know it’s ridiculous to think gang bangers shooting each other is the same as a crazy walking into a school and shooting kids.

Title: Re: Finding the truth
Post by Eegore on 11/07/23 at 05:23:12


maybe you're not paying attention?


 Do you have a reference for this?

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