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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 09/07/23 at 09:02:30

Title: How about we actually discuss the first amendment
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/07/23 at 09:02:30

And censorship?
When Is censorship justified?

Fear of serious injury cannot alone justify suppression of free speech and assembly. Men feared witches and burnt women. It is the function of speech to free men from the bondage of irrational fears.” Eventually, the Supreme Court came to embrace their view. In 1969, the Court replaced the “clear and present danger” framework with a much more rigorous principle: that the First Amendment does not “permit a State to forbid or proscribe advocacy of the use of force or of law violation except where such advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action.”

Any thoughts?

Title: Re: How about we actually discuss the first amendm
Post by Eegore on 09/07/23 at 10:04:19

Isn't this from Whitney v State of CA? Back in 27 if I recall correctly.

Full article here:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/01/shouting-fire-crowded-theater-speech-regulation/621151/

Title: Re: How about we actually discuss the first amendm
Post by MnSpring on 09/07/23 at 11:16:34

'Fire in a crowed Theater, (or something) when their is NO fire, and someone gets hurt, etc. the 'fire' shouter gets in trouble.

Well known and accepted.

Someone on a flying airplane, walks to the bathroom and sees a long lost friend named, 'Jack', and says 'HI' first. (And a attendant heard it)

How is that person treated ?

Perfectly OK to carry around a FAX Bloody Severed Head.
Not OK to say. F.J.B

Does it depend on the actions/proof of the people.
Or the 'investigator' ?

Title: Re: How about we actually discuss the first amendm
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/07/23 at 17:41:51

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/01/shouting-fire-crowded-theater-speech-regulation/621151/
Interesting article with links embedded

Title: Re: How about we actually discuss the first amendm
Post by Serowbot on 09/08/23 at 08:04:37

Semantics aside,.. there is a side here that wants to incite violence and one that does not,.
Throw away your copy of the Constitution,.... and your flag.
Trump did.

Title: Re: How about we actually discuss the first amendm
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/08/23 at 11:09:45

When you see Trump people violent, it's gonna be the Response to the bullshit the left did. You buncha clowns need to Get your Constitution out,read it, learn what it actually Says, grab your flag and hoist it. You probably believe it's constitutional for an illegal to drop her kid and Boom! Instant citizenship. Read that amendment Carefully.

and Subject to.... Read that part..