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Title: Picking cherries Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/02/23 at 04:15:12 https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/03/j6-bombshell-doj-video-shows-capitol-police-holding-open-upper-west-terrace-doors-on-jan-6-over-250-individuals-allowed-to-walk-into-capitol-by-police-then-later-arrested-and-abused/ |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by Eegore on 03/02/23 at 05:17:04 This video was put up here months ago. Why anyone is acting like it's new I don't know. I have the same questions now that I did then. |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/02/23 at 05:45:21 0626242C3126430 wrote:
It's Not Necessary for it to be New. What is important is to continue to shine the light on the lies. That is Not what violent insurrection Looks like, but the rabid left insist that is what it is. People are rotting in jail for two years with no bail. YEAH, lefties Sukk. |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by pg on 03/02/23 at 06:18:02 I hope they release more now that the Ds aren't at the helm... Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by Serowbot on 03/02/23 at 06:51:10 Looks to me like the police knew they were overwhelmed and and were ordered to fallback. This relinquishes the building to the rioters but allows the police to concentrate their efforts to protecting the people in their trust. That's not a surrender but a retreat. |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by Eegore on 03/02/23 at 13:19:53 It's Not Necessary for it to be New. What is important is to continue to shine the light on the lies. I realize it should be used as evidence, but when it's distributed as "New bombshell video" then it is obvious clickbait. It's old video, I don't need to be mislead and either does anyone else including you. Again, I am waiting for someone to point out somebody that just walked around that has been prosecuted. Are any of the people in that video on trial, awaiting trial or imprisoned? If not, stop telling me they are. I don't need to have more lies from both sides of the story. |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by Eegore on 03/02/23 at 13:27:53 "Looks to me like the police knew they were overwhelmed and and were ordered to fallback." Nah, I'm sure the police were ordered to physically fight people with hundreds-to-one odds. You 5 guys, stop a hundred people from passing that small metal barrier! I can not say for sure since I do not have access to the radio transmission but it does look like some areas were instructed to just let the "flow" happen. Flow is how the energy of crowd control is directed. You don't "stop" a protest, you dilute or redirect the energy of the crowd. I think there were multiple attempts to allow energetic flow to be directed or diluted. Also I think basic judgement calls were made, for instance if a call for direction comes in and law enforcement says they have 6 Operators at an entrance and they are looking at a few hundred protestors, then a judgement to tell them to stand by could be made. Simply put, restraining just one person in front of a potentially volatile crowd could end up with 20 or 30 people engaging the two officers attempting the restraint. Nobody should issue an order to restrain people in a crowd that large, peaceful or not, without substantial cover or redirective methods. |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/02/23 at 15:37:25 Watching you people pretend,, nuts |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by pg on 03/02/23 at 17:45:33 Can anyone provide some other examples of this tactic? When has a US federal authority within the US opened doors to a federal property rather than secured a perimeter as a method or strategy to combat crowd control? Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by MnSpring on 03/02/23 at 18:29:05 697E78747B6B190 wrote:
That is one persons 'opinion' of what, 'should' be done, in a rare set of circumstances. Not the circumstances present in that event. |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/02/23 at 19:38:23 Some of those doors are magnetically secured. It requires Someone Inside to turn that off. IDK if all of them are the same, but seriously, if you're scared of the people, you don't throw open the doors and wave them in. Pretending that is what they did is moronic. If you're SCARED of them, if they are so violent, then you lock doors and defend your territory. It's NOT as if they are afraid to shoot someone. Or beat them to death. |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by Eegore on 03/02/23 at 19:39:59 "Watching you people pretend,, nuts" Are any of the people in that video on trial, awaiting trial or imprisoned? If not, who exactly is pretending? I don't know why anyone would be ok being shown a video, being told those people are rotting in jail, and then all those people are walking around free. If anyone just walking around in that video are in jail, then this makes sense to use as evidence. Prosecuting people for that reason would be wrong. But were they? "Can anyone provide some other examples of this tactic? When has a US federal authority within the US opened doors to a federal property rather than secured a perimeter as a method or strategy to combat crowd control?" This is a good question. I know in practical drills this is done regularly as it is not even remotely plausible to expect 3 or 4 people to keep hundreds from advancing. As for events where this has actually happened I do not know of any. What we do know is people safe at home watching videos after the fact know more about what was going on than the people that were there. Just like people that watch motorcycle videos know more about riding motorcycles than people that are out there actually riding motorcycles. |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by Eegore on 03/02/23 at 19:44:49 "Some of those doors are magnetically secured. It requires Someone Inside to turn that off. IDK if all of them are the same, but seriously, if you're scared of the people, you don't throw open the doors and wave them in." What I would want to know is if an order was given to open the doors and if it happened prior to people smashing the windows and coming in at the other location. Was it bad decision, intentional mislead or orchestrated? I also wonder if in any of those instances if the officers on scene simply ignored orders. I haven't heard of anything like that, but I'd want to know. |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/02/23 at 20:44:40 Knowing the details would be nice. Like, why Epps didn't get arrested. How many FBI were in the crowd Encouraging people to go in. Say that didn't happen So you can find out it did That is written to everyone, not just E. |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by pg on 03/03/23 at 04:06:10 485751564B4C7D4D7D45575B10220 wrote:
I believe we all support your post, excluding two forum members. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by Eegore on 03/03/23 at 05:15:15 Knowing the details would be nice. Like, why Epps didn't get arrested. How many FBI were in the crowd Encouraging people to go in. Say that didn't happen So you can find out it did I agree. The difference is I ask "Did an event happen?" then accept any evidence that is available. Instead of saying "This event happened." then go find evidence that only supports that view. That's literally confirmation bias at work. Or saying "This event DIDN'T happen" then go look for evidence that only supports that view. That is also confirmation bias at work. People that choose to have adult conversations can tell the difference between someone like me saying: 1: I DO think some thing happened. or 2: I DONT think something happened. or 3: I DONT KNOW what happened. I still would like to know if any of the people that were just walking around were prosecuted. Who in the video evidence showing proof of people walking around - that are "rotting in jail", are actually IN jail? |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/03/23 at 08:29:18 Event Epps was there He was encouraging people to go in Not arrested |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by Eegore on 03/03/23 at 09:11:02 Event Epps was there He was encouraging people to go in Not arrested I've seen some information claiming Epps was an FBI agent, but nothing that convinces me. What about the other people encouraging to enter the Capitol? There is video of many people doing this. The Epps theory comes from a video of him whispering into Samsel's ear, and him saying he "orchestrated" the event. He as an FBI sleeper cell that spends a sh!tload of time in Queen Creek for an agent that skilled, openly said he caused the event? I'd need more information than that, but then again I am not thinking something is factual before I have evidence, then getting online to go find evidence. I think this could go either way in regards to FBI influence, but I think the Epps scenario is a pretty poor way to go about it when comparative strategies would have higher chances of success. Why use a less effective method? Event A video of people walking in the Capitol is presented. We are told those people are rotting in jail for walking around. None of those people are shown to be in jail. Who in the video evidence showing proof of people walking around - that are "rotting in jail", are actually IN jail? |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by MnSpring on 03/03/23 at 11:16:09 1535373F2235500 wrote:
Very much the same as a group of people belonging to a political party. Elected representative people. A POTUS. Who have no experience, education, knowledge, with or about firearms, Saying firearms are bad, you should not have one, all guns should be banned. ETC, Etc, etc, (Don’t forget the ‘sign’) Yet, the UL, DFI, FDS, Socialists continue too say: Guns Bad, Remove Guns, You can’t have a gun. And it is PERFECTLY correct ! |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by Serowbot on 03/03/23 at 11:36:30 Only gun nuts should legislate gun nuts... ;D Only trans should legislate trans?... :-/ Hey goose?.... gander much? :P |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by pg on 03/03/23 at 12:19:31 https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/01/06/how-many-people-charged-jan-6-riot/10965483002/ Roughly 350 suspects remain on the FBI's wanted list of violent offenders. Arrests slowed in 2022, with at least 230 charged, compared with roughly 700 in 2021. Of the 192 people who have been sentenced to incarceration, the average incarceration time levied is 16 months. https://www.newsweek.com/accused-capitol-rioters-could-spend-more-year-jail-before-trial-1656894 Yes, it appears their were numerous violations of the Speedy Trials Act. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3161 (1)In any case in which a plea of not guilty is entered, the trial of a defendant charged in an information or indictment with the commission of an offense shall commence within seventy days from the filing date (and making public) of the information or indictment, or from the date the defendant has appeared before a judicial officer of the court in which such charge is pending, whichever date last occurs. If a defendant consents in writing to be tried before a magistrate judge on a complaint, the trial shall commence within seventy days from the date of such consent. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by Eegore on 03/03/23 at 13:13:40 "Of the 192 people who have been sentenced to incarceration, the average incarceration time levied is 16 months." When you have a guy with 10 years and 4 more with 7+ this skews that average upwards when almost everyone else spent a few months incarcerated. I don't think in this situation that walking in behind a group of people even constitutes a home-confinement or probation charge. Yes, it appears their were numerous violations of the Speedy Trials Act. I'm wondering why the legal representatives of these individuals aren't filing on these violations. I think a lot of people assume anything past 70 days is an automatic violation. I know of a few individuals incarcerated that claim their rights are violated, but their legal team is silent, only to find out they waived their speedy trial right. If you waive your right to a speedy trial you don't get to sue for a violation unless the delay exceeds the agreed waiver time. But on the other end you don't get sympathy if you say you signed a waiver. List of every case including all signed documents: https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by pg on 03/03/23 at 15:22:24 I'm wondering why the legal representatives of these individuals aren't filing on these violations. I think a lot of people assume anything past 70 days is an automatic violation. Do you really believe they are just sitting??................. Unless you read through the legal documents of hundreds of incarcerated individuals, that is merely speculation. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by Eegore on 03/03/23 at 16:52:17 Do you really believe they are just sitting??................. I believe they should have made public filings on this violation if they have grounds to do so. Unless you read through the legal documents of hundreds of incarcerated individuals, that is merely speculation. I don't think one has to read through the documents as each is classified by document type and have a title. A case file of that specific violation would be very easy to search and find by title, description and file number. Also not everyone was incarcerated more than 70 days. That reduces the pool significantly. If this isn't enough I can create a separate thread with a breakdown of each person's legal filings. The link I posted has already done this in full, and is searchable however, so it would be much faster to just do that. |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by pg on 03/03/23 at 17:57:30 If this isn't enough I can create a separate thread with a breakdown of each person's legal filings. The link I posted has already done this in full, and is searchable however, so it would be much faster to just do that. You can do what you please. Regardless, you provided little to no useful information to support your position. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by Eegore on 03/03/23 at 19:08:09 You can do what you please. Regardless, you provided little to no useful information to support your position. What is your useful information that shows people that were/are incarcerated over 70 days, that do not have waivers for speedy trial? Besides speculation? People, in the information I provided, have waivers specific to their speedy trial, or have extenuating circumstances enacted by their own defense. What else would you need besides the specific and exact paperwork filed with US Courts? I think people just assume more than 70 days is a violation when the real parameters include things like pre-trial motions, dismissal and refiling of charges, witness availability etc. See 18 U.S.C. § 3162, these all, legally, alter the timeframe. I am not aware of any benefit for anyone's legal representation to simply fail to file for such an obvious and provable violation of the 6th. If the client requests no filing be made they can't go back and claim they had poor legal representation. I fully understand violations are possible here, I just don't understand why after months and months, filings aren't being made, or why the legal teams are making it so hard to find them. If it were me I'd be publicizing these violations, not filing suppression requests. Could the "reasonable measures" garbage from the prosecution be that iron clad? If so why is it not part of any case material? |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by pg on 03/04/23 at 04:16:07 Durig the past year, I have observed the events & news following J6. I remember hearing of many injustices to the people awaiting the judicial process. I remember thinking do they do not have the resources to implement a speedy trial because of the number of people arrested? Or, and or are they punishing the people who participated in J6? What is your useful information that shows people that were/are incarcerated over 70 days, that do not have waivers for speedy trial? Besides speculation? Ask and you shall receive. https://americangulag.org/incarcerated-individuals/ If you are interested you can see all the information of the person's arrest, motions, trial standing, under Case Status. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by J Mac on 03/04/23 at 05:44:41 2E3137302D2A1B2B1B23313D76440 wrote:
---- I agree. It (J6) seems about as orchestrated as the Whitmer kidnapping. How many times in history have stooges been used like puppets to manipulate public opinion the way the "gummit" handlers desire? |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by Eegore on 03/04/23 at 08:43:43 "Ask and you shall receive." These have waivers or unopposed extensions. Also by using a different source, you post the exact same information I did. The actual signed court filings. The exact information I offered. How are they "useful" when you use them to show court filings were made, but if I use them as evidence court filings were made they are not "useful"? "If you are interested you can see all the information of the person's arrest, motions, trial standing, under Case Status." I did already over several months since the information you provide is the exact same as I did. They have waivers or uncontested extensions. Why are you considering these violations? They have waivers, and uncontested or requested extensions. Or they filed motions extending the time themselves. An example using my source: Aiden Bilyard - Motion to Toll and Exclude Time Under The Speedy Trial Act. https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases Yours: Aiden Bilyard - Motion to Toll and Exclude Time Under The Speedy Trial Act. https://americangulag.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/22-MOTION-for-Extension-of-Time-to-Commence-Trial-Under-the-Speedy-Trial-Act-18-U.S.C.-3161-et-seq.-by-USA-as-to-AIDEN-HENRY-BILYARD.pdf Identical information. |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by pg on 03/04/23 at 09:25:25 Identical information. Similar, but not Identical. My understanding is the doj information encompasses all the cases for J6. The Americangulag information that was cited lists cases where individuals are detained or in prison. From my brief search the doj is investigating 2k people from their activities on J6. 1,003 have been formally charged, and 476 have plead guilty. It is a bit easier to sort through the information as half of it was already queried. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by Eegore on 03/04/23 at 10:08:10 Similar, but not Identical. My understanding is the doj information encompasses all the cases for J6. The Americangulag information that was cited lists cases where individuals are detained or in prison. From my brief search the doj is investigating 2k people from their activities on J6. 1,003 have been formally charged, and 476 have plead guilty. It is a bit easier to sort through the information as half of it was already queried. I agree with that. My assessment is my source showing the legal documents is showing identical legal documents as yours. To me, they are both useful. AmericanGulag has some discrepancies, maybe due to private upkeep, but in general it is providing accurate information. For instance it is claiming some individuals on GPS monitoring are "incarcerated", which I do not agree is accurate. So far, every single person on there has a trial waiver, has chosen to extend by admitting new evidence, or didn't go over the timeline. Also, again to my original point, none of the people incarcerated are charged with only unlawful entry. The walked-in-and-did-nothing guys don't appear to have any time in jail, yet I am shown video of them, and told they are "rotting in jail". |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by pg on 03/05/23 at 07:23:39 none of the people incarcerated are charged with only unlawful entry. That must make it ok................... Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by Serowbot on 03/05/23 at 08:34:46 7E696F636C7C0E0 wrote:
I like that you said plead and not pleaded... This pleaded thing gets on my nerves... it just don't sound right. I swear I don't remember hearing pleaded in past decades. Are we going to start saying we readed a book next? :P |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by Eegore on 03/05/23 at 08:47:14 "That must make it ok..................." It makes the repeated claim that people that "just walked around" are "rotting in jail" inaccurate. They weren't incarcerated. We have been shown a video multiple times of people that only walked, casually, into the Capitol and were told they are/were in jail. That's not true. Why should we be expected to ignore that? Why should I accept lies as telling the truth? Why would you? |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by MnSpring on 03/05/23 at 10:20:05 It has been said: “… I agree with that. My assessment is my source showing the legal documents is showing identical legal documents as yours. …” Then: “… AmericanGulag has some discrepancies ...” Which is it ? As to, ‘on the bracelet’, it is incarceration, just a different location. Just a few excerpts from: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/incarcerated-home-rise-ankle-monitors-house-arrest-during-pandemic-n1273008 “… Researchers are finding that ankle monitors are keeping people connected to the prison system longer than ever, as more remain strapped to the devices for over a year. researchers who study recidivism say the surveillance devices hurt people trying to get their life on track after prison and that there’s no evidence the technology is rehabilitative. said James Kilgore, … “Instead we’re going to slap this thing on them so we can track them, and we can keep them locked up in their house.” at least 30 states, agencies require those who are placed in an electronic monitor to pay between $2 and $20 a day to wear one, not including activation fees that some counties tack on, "People are supposed to have a presumption of innocence," said Patrice James, director of community justice at the Chicago-based Shriver Center on Poverty Law. "But when you put people on electronic monitoring, you’ve not solved the incarceration problem. It just shifts the jail cell to inside our communities, inside our apartment complexes and to our residential blocks." Ankle monitors can be so expensive that some people in the system must choose between paying rent or their electronic monitor fees, For adults in electronic monitors in Chicago, their homes are subject to warrantless searches “Viewing electronic surveillance as an alternative to incarceration furthers and perpetuates a dangerous false binary between incarceration or monitoring and ignores an obvious third option, which is freedom,” …” ——— "...It is a shackle, rather than a bracelet. The rules for wearing a monitor are far more restrictive than most people realize. Most devices today have GPS tracking, recording every movement and potentially eroding rights in ways you can’t imagine. They severely curtail the freedoms of those who are given a device before they've even been convicted. ..." |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by Eegore on 03/05/23 at 12:22:08 "It has been said: “… I agree with that. My assessment is my source showing the legal documents is showing identical legal documents as yours. …” Then: “… AmericanGulag has some discrepancies ...” Which is it ?" Both. Both show identical documents, and one has discrepancies. The websites are not identical, the documents within them are. Americangulag does not include every legal document, they have omitted some documents, for instance they have some documents under the incorrect human US Citizen's name. As to, ‘on the bracelet’, it is incarceration, just a different location. I am using the dictionary definition, not personal opinion. It indicates "in" a jail or prison. I consider the word "incarceration" and only the word "incarceration" with the exclusion of all other known words to mean currently "inside" a physical prison or jail structure. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/incarceration You can interpret the word however you want. None of this makes the repeated claim that the human US Citizen's shown on the video here are "rotting IN jail" as inside a physical jail, true. Almost every one that "walked around" was ticketed and or placed on probation of some kind. |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by MnSpring on 03/05/23 at 12:23:55 7E687F627A6F62790D0 wrote:
When someone says they have a gun, and I can't have one. 'it just don't sound right' |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by Eegore on 03/05/23 at 12:25:18 Except Serowbot didn't say that he can have a gun and you can not. |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by pg on 03/06/23 at 06:21:53 Except Serowbot didn't say that he can have a gun and you can not. The issue is he supports gun control, yet he still owns firearms. We have asked him in the past if he has relinquished ownership of his weapons and the answer was crickets.............. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by Eegore on 03/06/23 at 08:16:39 The issue is he supports gun control, yet he still owns firearms. We have asked him in the past if he has relinquished ownership of his weapons and the answers was crickets.............. The question should be, does he own the type of firearm he wants banned. If he thinks shotguns for example should be banned, but owns a pistol, that's reasonable. |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/06/23 at 14:16:17 Not understanding what the second amendment is about is not reasonable. The second amendment was written by men who had been forced to overthrow the government. It's NOT permission for Us to have guns. It's a declaration that the government has no right to stop us from having weapons. Weapons of War, read the founding fathers quotes. Does anyone Not understand the second amendment, or is it just that they Know More about how everything works and THEIR ideas would make for a better world, so the second amendment needs modified? And why would Anyone listen to what a lefty has to say? Would it be because of the Yuge successes that anyone can see by looking at the results of the model they have used? Which shall we use to weigh and measure the benefits of The Lefty Ideology? Chicago? St.Louis? Hey!! I know! Let the lefties who want to change anything point out Where they have been running things,,, how long and they have been running things and show how Good it is for the Citizens. |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by Serowbot on 03/06/23 at 15:25:47 I owned a mandolin once... never played it. Haven't shot gun in decades. Just lost interest. Don't carry. Don't live in fear. But I do know how they work. |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by Eegore on 03/06/23 at 15:36:47 It's a declaration that the government has no right to stop us from having weapons. Weapons of War, read the founding fathers quotes. Where did this quote come from? I've seen it posted on Twitter, but not any historical reference. |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by pg on 03/06/23 at 17:25:59 565D4563515D5F573C0 wrote:
---- I agree. It (J6) seems about as orchestrated as the Whitmer kidnapping. How many times in history have stooges been used like puppets to manipulate public opinion the way the "gummit" handlers desire?[/quote] https://nypost.com/2023/03/06/jan-6-footage-shows-cops-bringing-qanon-shaman-to-senate-floor/ “The tapes show the Capitol police never stopped Jacob Chansley. They helped him. They acted as his tour guides.” Then they escort him to various entrances of the chamber which appear to be locked. Eventually they help him open a door, and he enters the chamber. Chansley, a 33-year-old naval veteran from Arizona, has been jailed for almost four years for “obstructing an official proceeding.” Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by J Mac on 03/06/23 at 18:28:53 The past tense of "plead" is "pled" or "pleaded". English is obviously quite irregular, given the past tense of "read" is "read" (not red) ;) ------ 4254435E46535E45310 wrote:
I like that you said plead and not pleaded... This pleaded thing gets on my nerves... it just don't sound right. I swear I don't remember hearing pleaded in past decades. Are we going to start saying we readed a book next? :P[/quote] |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by pg on 03/07/23 at 04:40:47 2432253820353823570 wrote:
See what I mean, Bot is packing heat............. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by MnSpring on 03/07/23 at 08:07:50 "... Bot is packing heat................" Yep ! Yet others, are NOT ALLOWED ! (OBTW, I, and Billions of others, are 'others') |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/07/23 at 09:23:28 I don't live in fear of a flat tire, but I carry a spare. Being prepared for a lousy moment doesn't mean you are afraid. I'm legally able to carry. I haven't yet. Only on long trips have I ever carried a gun. The likelihood of needing one is still so low that the hassle and expense of properly carrying a concealed weapon is just not worth it to me Yet. I am planning on taking the class for the CCL that I Legally don't Hafta have, but the legal liability of being armed makes taking classes and buying insurance sound pretty reasonable. I'm watching crime around us. Road rage, cars with holes, things have changed in the sixteen years we've been here. The shootout in the road in front of the house was a fluke... But bad things that happen are just random things, right? Like the Lubys restaurant years ago, and the woman who left her gun in the car, and watched loved ones shot,, Fear isn't the motivation for carrying for most. It's just being prepared for something that probably Won't happen, but IF it goes down, Only being armed is the answer. Having something, not needing it, not a problem. If you Need a gun, and don't Have one, PROBLEM... Hey,since we are talking, I have a question.. After all the " Guns Guys are just compensating for that tiny little manpart they are ashamed of..." How do you explain snubnosed pistols? |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by Eegore on 03/07/23 at 10:41:17 ""... Bot is packing heat................" Yep ! Yet others, are NOT ALLOWED ! (OBTW, I, and Billions of others, are 'others')" Except Serowbot never claimed other people are NOT ALLOWED while he is. |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/08/23 at 06:41:01 5C4345425F5869596951434F04360 wrote:
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by Serowbot on 03/08/23 at 07:03:02 5C4345425F5869596951434F04360 wrote:
I'd ask tRump ;D |
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Title: Re: Picking cherries Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/08/23 at 11:52:09 I'm not aware of him insinuating that gun owners are compensating for having a small democrat. |
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