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Title: Not rhetorical Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/28/23 at 02:22:53 http://https://www.bookwormroom.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/Energy-01.jpg |
Title: Re: Not rhetorical Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/28/23 at 08:30:28 Yeah,, not so easy, izzit? |
Title: Re: Not rhetorical Post by Eegore on 02/28/23 at 11:08:50 What's the acceptable timeframe for people to respond to your posts? Are we now down to about 6hrs? The difference here is that the US didn't have a pipeline. |
Title: Re: Not rhetorical Post by pg on 02/28/23 at 12:50:09 Yes, cancelling the Keystone Pipeline had an adverse effect on the economy and likely would have had a material effect on the supply of oil in the US. Best regards, |
Title: Re: Not rhetorical Post by MnSpring on 02/28/23 at 12:52:23 0F2F2D25382F4A0 wrote:
United States ATEX Pipeline Big Inch Buckeye Partners Calnev Pipeline Chaparral NGL Pipeline Colonial Pipeline Dakota Access Pipeline Dixie Pipeline Double H Pipeline Dow Pipeline Company Enbridge Pipeline System Enterprise Products Jayhawk and Kaw Pipelines Keystone Pipeline (XL phase halted in January 2021, XL phase terminated in June 2021) Lakehead Pipeline Line 3 pipeline Longhorn Pipeline Magellan Midstream Partners Mahadeva Pipeline Mariner East Pipelines Mid-America Pipeline System Minnesota Pipeline North Dakota Pipeline Olympic Pipeline Plantation Pipeline Pilgrim Pipeline (proposed) Pony Express Pipeline Seaway Pipeline Seminole Pipeline Trans-Alaska Pipeline System Trans Mountain Pipeline Unev Pipeline Yellowstone Pipeline From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oil_pipelines#United_States |
Title: Re: Not rhetorical Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/28/23 at 13:05:37 4464666E7364010 wrote:
You,, YOU interpreted what I said how You wanted. Four had looked,, and said nothing.. Kiss it,dude,,I don't care what you say any more. |
Title: Re: Not rhetorical Post by Eegore on 02/28/23 at 19:11:49 You,, YOU interpreted what I said how You wanted. Four had looked,, and said nothing.. Kiss it,dude,,I don't care what you say any more. Incorrect, 3 views were mine. I keep trying to show you that the "views" are NOT unique. I'm trying to inform you that the views you keep thinking are humans looking are not humans - you are upset over an event that never happened. Again I will show you, and again you might claim incorrectly every view is a different person. Do you think over 100 different people viewed this thread in the time it took me to type this? Over 100 views are on this thread in less than a minute. |
Title: Re: Not rhetorical Post by Eegore on 02/28/23 at 19:16:53 Yes, cancelling the Keystone Pipeline had an adverse effect on the economy and likely would have had a material effect on the supply of oil in the US. I agree with this, however comparing an actual pipeline moving actual oil is not the same as comparing it to what might have been. The comparison is poor. It's like asking if bombing Russian military bases damages their military why doesn't bombing future locations where there are no military bases in the US damage our military? It does, but nowhere near the same way. |
Title: Re: Not rhetorical Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/28/23 at 22:27:55 You needed to see it three times? Howboutthat! Aaand I Still don't care what you said |
Title: Re: Not rhetorical Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/28/23 at 22:30:31 So the construction on a pipeline that that demented pervert shut down that would have benefited the economy just doesn't work in your mind? You don't need to answer, I don't care |
Title: Re: Not rhetorical Post by Eegore on 03/01/23 at 05:23:38 "You needed to see it three times? Howboutthat! Aaand I Still don't care what you said" Your caring doesn't change math. If you want to be upset over an event on this forum that never happened go ahead. I am just pointing out that views here are NOT unique to anyone that thinks every view comes from a different member. So the construction on a pipeline that that demented pervert shut down that would have benefited the economy just doesn't work in your mind? You don't need to answer, I don't care Incorrect. If you use the words I actually said you would gain a more accurate interpretation. The economy is inhibited by shutting down the "planning" and "building" of the Keystone pipeline. The comparison of a planned pipeline to an existing operational one is poor. The comparison is poor. The economical impacts are not the same, they absolutely do exist, but are significantly different. If the comparison were towards an existing pipeline of similar volume and economic value, then it would be more accurate. Again only the comparison example is poor, it's a weak attempt to point out a valid issue. |
Title: Re: Not rhetorical Post by Serowbot on 03/01/23 at 07:10:15 Not gonna' look it up again, but I think tRump got 8% of the pipeline completed in his 4 years.... another 10 or 12 might show results. ...and it's not fuel grade oil. Eegore,... am I close? Having a lazy day...................................... :-? |
Title: Re: Not rhetorical Post by Eegore on 03/01/23 at 10:11:43 "Not gonna' look it up again, but I think tRump got 8% of the pipeline completed in his 4 years.... another 10 or 12 might show results. ...and it's not fuel grade oil." Yeah well the details tend to not be important. I was having this discussion the other day with a guy that didn't even know the expansion wasn't built yet. He was sure they shut down oil passing through actial pipes. The fuel grade oil is debatable as it can be refined at-destination. To me the issue is that the 830,000 a day at peak transfer would be under 1% of total. It would mean jobs, but not lower gas prices, there just isn't enough refined going through. None of that matters though if comparing things that haven't happened to things that have happened is how we are supposed to assess this. This is why pictures like this work so well, they over-simplify a subject. |
Title: Re: Not rhetorical Post by WebsterMark on 03/02/23 at 05:19:31 The harm with the Keystone cancellation was the signal it sent that this administration will be anti-business. Now you leftists can argue that all you want but the leaders of my company (and we are the top in our industry) correctly interpreted that action was a sign of things to come and made adjustments knowing how this administration would act. And we’re not the only ones smart enough to understand that. Get this through your head. Net zero will never happen. We cannot rely on renewables to supply our energy needs today or in the future. It’s impossible. It’s not that it’s technologically challenging, it’s impossible. Stop pretending otherwise. We will transition to all electric vehicles for most transportation needs, but we’re not going to do it with windmills and solar panels. We’re going to do it with nuclear power. The longer we wait, the more inevitable Brownouts and service disruptions across the country will occur. They’re already occurring in certain areas. And ridiculous people like Biden and other Democrats who are just stupid and unintelligent when it comes to energy, are going to make us all suffer. They won’t suffer, but we will. |
Title: Re: Not rhetorical Post by Eegore on 03/02/23 at 05:25:16 The harm with the Keystone cancellation was the signal it sent that this administration will be anti-business. I agree that this is the primary impact of that decision. |
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