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Message started by pg on 11/14/22 at 03:33:25

Title: FTX
Post by pg on 11/14/22 at 03:33:25

What really happened with FTX? Did they raid their own funds, simply a giant Ponzi scheme, a giant slush fund for the Ds, a failed entity in part of or all of the above..........

Best regards,

Title: Re: FTX
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/14/22 at 09:42:08

I've been waiting for someone to open that door. It's probably another
We will never know just what it was
A quick overview it certainly Looks scandalous. The less we learn the more convinced I'll be about just how scandalous it is .

Please note how little is known about the Pelosi thing.
Maybe the name of Buck would fit into the story.
Video that would show what happened is hidden. So, the story is a lie. And the truth is embarrassing.
So this financial mess will follow the same rules.
If information that would expose the truth is hidden, there is a reason.
And it's NOT to protect Trump.

Title: Re: FTX
Post by MnSpring on 11/14/22 at 12:38:58

"... We will never know just what it was ...
... little is known about the Pelosi thing ...
... Video that would show what happened is hidden ...
... information that would expose the truth is hidden... "

"... there is a reason ..."

A-Yep !!!!!!!

Title: Re: FTX
Post by Eegore on 11/14/22 at 13:20:35

It cant be poor management and the massively fluid nature of digital currency because everything has to have a hidden behind the scenes ulterior motive.

If you are Republican then the Democrats caved FTX by means of duplicitous finance structuring.

If you are Democrat then the Republicans caved FTX by means of duplicitous finance structuring.

Obviously the rest of the planets fiscal input will revolve around those two political groups.

Title: Re: FTX
Post by pg on 11/14/22 at 16:26:27

This is an interesting case study. This guy made billions of $$ at an extremely young and lost it even faster. I'm curious what happened....

Best regards,

Title: Re: FTX
Post by WebsterMark on 11/15/22 at 03:57:10

I’m not sure what happened but it smells.

Title: Re: FTX
Post by WebsterMark on 11/15/22 at 05:04:18

Oh, and the guy was the 2nd largest in funds to the Democratic Party….

Ukraine was an investor. Wait, aren’t we giving billions to Ukraine? Aren’t they buying weapons? ….This is smelling worse….

Title: Re: FTX
Post by WebsterMark on 11/15/22 at 05:20:36

So……they filed bankruptcy days after the midterms where they gave 40 million to Democrats.

I read an interesting description of this guy. His giving to Democrats essentially “blue washed” him meaning he bought the right kind of friends…

Oh, my prediction today will be the female Trump, Kari Lake, will find donations to her opponent and will refuse to concede. Trump will announce his intention to run in 2024 today and some will immediately assign Kari Lake as the perfect running mate.

Title: Re: FTX
Post by Serowbot on 11/15/22 at 06:47:47

764443525544536C40534A210 wrote:

Oh, my prediction today will be the female Trump, Kari Lake, will find donations to her opponent and will refuse to concede. Trump will announce his intention to run in 2024 today and some will immediately assign Kari Lake as the perfect running mate.

A Titanic combination.

http://https://sayingimages.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/titanic-sank-today-meme-422x420.jpg

Title: Re: FTX
Post by WebsterMark on 11/15/22 at 10:00:27

Or….the guy is a thief and Democratic leadership took advantage of the millions to buy elections which I seem to remember a Supreme Court case about this vert thing that got all the leftist panties in a bunch, that is until the ultra rich switched to the Democrat’s side once they realized how good they are at theft and other crimes.

Title: Re: FTX
Post by WebsterMark on 11/15/22 at 10:16:02

But seriously, the was the 2nd largest donor to the Democrats, he’s bankrupt right after the midterms, some of the money he got was from Ukraine, who is getting it from many other countries, including the US, and FTX took that money and donated to the Democrats…..

Don’t you think it’s worth looking into to see if basically us taxpayers didn’t help fund some of the Democratic parties campaign expenses? Let’s at least look into it don’t you think?

Title: Re: FTX
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/15/22 at 10:50:38

1535373F2235500 wrote:

I'm sure my opinion is based solely on the fact that I'm a Republican.
The fact that he was second biggest Democrat supporter behind Soros doesn't mean anything at all.
I'm a little tired of getting preached to as if I'm dishonest. If it was a Trump organization I would call it wrong.
Oddly enough, I never cheated at games. When my guy was down, playing two below, I called it. If you cheat, there is one thing that can't happen. You CAN'T win. Seeing people celebrate when they cheated turns my stomach.

Title: Re: FTX
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/15/22 at 10:53:44

4A787F6E69786F507C6F761D0 wrote:

Now Now, Webby. You know when you thought the FBI might have been IN the proud boys,instigating and how wrong that worked out to be.
Oh,wait..

Title: Re: FTX
Post by Serowbot on 11/15/22 at 11:08:58

3E2127203D3A0B3B0B33212D66540 wrote:

Seeing people celebrate when they cheated turns my stomach.

http://https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/HwYAAOSw1Etff8nz/s-l400.jpg

Title: Re: FTX
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/15/22 at 14:35:59

Would you mind explaining where Obama was wrong?
How about this President?
Can you even bring yourself to criticize either of them?
Until you can do that, dragging Trump is just more
Meh..
I never deified him. I never let him tell me what to believe. The reason I supported him is
He was Saying what I said. He was trying to do what I wanted to see done. Is he perfect? Not a bit. But considering what America has been subjected to from the Oval Office in my life, he's either the least sorry or the best president I've seen. He benefited American citizens of all colors. Unemployment in the minority populations was lower than any time I know of. America achieved energy independent status and our strategic oil reserves were looking good. High school graduates, driving trucks, hauling in the oilfield were making six figures. Chew on that a minnit. Either that or the guys who called in to the radio shows were lying. But I'm sure they went and got another job.

How about just telling us Biden's greatest accomplishment. Just one.

Title: Re: FTX
Post by WebsterMark on 11/15/22 at 15:01:27

There’s nothing more ridiculous when the only response to a huge scandal is to cite someone’s opinion of Trump.

Title: Re: FTX
Post by pg on 11/15/22 at 17:12:42

Did any Republicans go visit Ukraine after we shipped them billions?

IIRC a whole lot of Ds went there, including some of their family members.

Best regards,

Title: Re: FTX
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/15/22 at 18:45:17

2E393F333C2C5E0 wrote:

Did any Republicans go visit Ukraine after we shipped them billions?

IIRC a whole lot of Ds went there, including some of their family members.

Best regards,

I'm sure it doesn't mean anything

Title: Re: FTX
Post by pg on 12/06/22 at 13:43:07

I was listening to a podcast with an SEC lawyer. They were withdrawing funds from segregated accounts and transferring them to Alameda. He then took a $1 B loan and then another loan at $2 B. Musk estimated the $$ given to the Ds was $100 M. It sure looks like this guy was placed into position and then he mucked up everything.

Best regards,

Title: Re: FTX
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/06/22 at 15:43:16

You seen that girl friend? Yikes!

Title: Re: FTX
Post by pg on 12/12/22 at 16:27:11

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/sam-bankman-fried-arrested-in-bahamas-prosecutor-says/ar-AA15creH?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=95731f0f0f994f4e9f549e21836bbbe6

Oppsie...............

Best regards,

Title: Re: FTX
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/12/22 at 20:46:20

The radio had the story
Arrested in the Bahamas and we don't have an extradition agreement with them, and they won't let us have him.

Or,looking it up
Instead of just trusting.. I Found this

According to a statement from the Royal Bahamas Police Force, Bankman-Fried was arrested "without incident" at his luxury apartment in Nassau around 6 p.m. Police said he was apprehended in "reference to various Financial Offense against laws of the United States, which are also offenses against laws of the Commonwealth of The Bahamas."

Bahamas Attorney General Ryan Pinder also released a statement on Bankman-Fried's arrest, saying that once an extradition request is made by the United States, his country "intends to process it promptly."

It's got all the look of a fabulous side show. His girlfriend, quite possibly a distant niece of the Elegant and Beautiful Olive Oyl, has got some big time lawyer, name,meh,,sorry.

Title: Re: FTX
Post by Eegore on 12/13/22 at 05:32:00

I've heard all kinds of nonsense about Bankman "hiding" in the Bahamas.

Incidentally from the same sources that complained a "Bahamas Based Company" known as FTX was running crypto.

I'm a bit surprised this is being addressed so quickly.

Title: Re: FTX
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/13/22 at 15:44:52

I didn't see that ,but I understand it.
That's called
Hiding in Plain Sight.
So good at it,he was ,that he could be hiding in the Bahamas and Simultaneously running a big operation.IN the Bahamas.
I'm Trying to envision how that could work.
Face Time to the office?

Title: Re: FTX
Post by pg on 12/13/22 at 16:55:19

The only thing I'm surprised about in this saga is why didn't he go to a country with no extradition?

Best regards,

Title: Re: FTX
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/14/22 at 14:13:10

Well, his arrest meant he didn't get to testify? He was supposed to be having a conversation with some important people,, Congress? But now,, gee,,that doesn't happen. Brilliant work. Like they didn't know..

Title: Re: FTX
Post by pg on 12/14/22 at 17:00:05

I understand the point you're making and you are correct. All they would make him do is squirm a little. He will lie, deflect, and obfuscate what transpired without any consequence.

Best regards,

Title: Re: FTX
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/14/22 at 18:23:45

I disagree. He has been pretty brave about talking. If I was his lawyer I'd be glad he was arrested. So he would stfu. He didn't go where there is no extradition.
Maybe he thinks he's created enough of a group of democrats to avoid prosecution.

Title: Re: FTX
Post by Eegore on 12/14/22 at 20:00:47

"The only thing I'm surprised about in this saga is why didn't he go to a country with no extradition?"

I assume it's because he wasn't on the run. He lived in the Bahamas and ran a company there.

Title: Re: FTX
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/14/22 at 20:15:32

E is possibly spot on. Why run if you don't expect to be arrested? He thinks he's bulletproof, because of all the money he has dealt out to politicians. Both sides,I'm sure. The bubs who voted against Trump may have been given some.

They killed a chance for him to sink himself, or maybe some recipients, or maybe some connections to high level people who helped him get going. Now, this guy who has information is being held in a bad place. I'm sure We are coordinating with Them to ensure we get him back to put on trial.
Coff Coff

Sam Bankman-Fried, the Democratic megadonor charged with what the Department of Justice called "one of the biggest financial frauds in American history," is being held in a Bahamas prison that's notorious for pest infestations, unsanitary conditions, and violence.

The cameras won't even have to fail

Title: Re: FTX
Post by pg on 12/15/22 at 01:47:56

If you facilitate the one of the largest frauds in American history and believe you will not be held accountable, you are clinically narcistic.

This behavior demonstrates he is completely divorced from reality. His lawyers are asking his to be freed from confinement because he can't get vegan food.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/sam-bankman-fried-s-relatives-called-the-bahamas-prison-he-s-being-held-at-to-ask-if-he-can-get-vegan-meals-per-bloomberg/ar-AA15htnv?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8e7f8cb544654a14947f7403b8ac929f

Regarding the hearing, it makes little to no difference what transpires before congress. No one from the left is held accountable, especially someone who donated large sums of money.

Best regards,

Title: Re: FTX
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/15/22 at 12:15:31

Regarding the hearing, it makes little to no difference what transpires before congress. No one from the left is held accountable, especially someone who donated large sums of money.

I agree. Absolutely. But we Missed him running his Mouth. Someone Did Not want him to do that. HE may have hung himself or implicated others.
The timing Screams
Shut that guy Up.