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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 11/01/22 at 05:47:31

Title: Because, Murca!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/01/22 at 05:47:31

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/10/discovered-facebook-twitter-private-portals-democrats-government-officials-corporate-elites-meet-ban-unwanted-conservative-content/

Some of us will read this and be pisstoff.
I wonder if any will read it and say
That is how it should be..

Title: Re: Because, Murca!
Post by Eegore on 11/01/22 at 06:25:20


 Its a private company.  The problem is people thinking a private company has to act like a public service.  

 If my tax dollars were supporting it then it would be a bigger issue to me.  But since it is the choice of a private company to run their business as they see fit and within the bounds of law, I have to assume they will act in their best interests which may not be my best interests.

 How dare a private company run their company how they see fit.  

Title: Re: Because, Murca!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/01/22 at 06:30:51

Seriously? The government telling them what to censor,, No.

Title: Re: Because, Murca!
Post by MnSpring on 11/01/22 at 07:42:38


4F6F6D65786F0A0 wrote:
"... How dare a private company run their company how they see fit.  


How dare a private company decide to not make a certain cake !!!!!

Title: Re: Because, Murca!
Post by Eegore on 11/01/22 at 07:42:55


 It was Twitter's idea and implementation so yeah if Twitter is choosing to have the government, or anyone else they choose, to direct their content then as a private company they can do what they want with the things they own.  Since they are a private business choosing to work with the US Government, not a public service.

 If the US Government somehow restricted Twitter and attempted to shut them down/revoke licenses etc. to operate then it would be a different story.  All kinds of companies work directly with the government, Twitter has chosen to do so.

 Why shouldn't a private company be able to choose?

Title: Re: Because, Murca!
Post by Eegore on 11/01/22 at 07:45:56



"How dare a private company decide to not make a certain cake !!!!!"

 US law.  Besides two of them won their cases, so it looks like they can.

 If Twitter was breaking the law by saying they won't let gay US citizens use their platform it would be different.  It's like each situation is unique and not applicable equally to anything you don't agree with.  Weird.

Title: Re: Because, Murca!
Post by MnSpring on 11/01/22 at 08:20:24


4B6B69617C6B0E0 wrote:
"...  US law. ..."


Which is, 'higher' ?

The US Constitution 1st Amendment ?

Or a Law, reinforced by 'woke', fairy dust sprinklers ?

Title: Re: Because, Murca!
Post by Eegore on 11/01/22 at 09:40:19

Which is, 'higher' ?

The US Constitution 1st Amendment ?

Or a Law, reinforced by 'woke', fairy dust sprinklers ?



 The US Constitution.  

 In this case Twitter is not bound by the US Constitution to avoid working with the US Government.

Title: Re: Because, Murca!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/01/22 at 11:13:59

You seem excited about seeing the people get their voices crushed. Just because it's Not Illegal doesn't make it right or good for America.

Title: Re: Because, Murca!
Post by Serowbot on 11/01/22 at 11:28:02

If they are lies that incite loons to grab hammers or AR15's, I'm all for banning them.

Brainwashing people into thinking their votes don't count, or that the political opposition eats babies, or that Jews have secret powers over them, is insane, but a lie repeated often enough becomes believable.
As demonstrated on this site.

Pelosi's attacker was not his gay lover and was not caught in his underwear.
These are blatant, malicious lies but some people are willing to believe anything.

Title: Re: Because, Murca!
Post by pg on 11/01/22 at 11:42:44

I don't use profanity much , but FTMFs.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/you-murderous-hypocrites-outrage-ensues-after-atlantic-suggests-amnesty-pandemic

Best regards,

Title: Re: Because, Murca!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/01/22 at 11:57:21

Yeah, Row, you want to decide what should be hashed out... Funny how criticism of the jab was squelched. Anything AntiLefty is Daaangerous, and without the Hall Monitors, people will Dah! The censorship gave the left a false impression that their ideas were more popular. There's more like me out there than you know.
Let the conversation happen. Freedom is messy,people are messy, your utopia is a disaster. Let voices be heard.

Title: Re: Because, Murca!
Post by Eegore on 11/01/22 at 12:03:03

You seem excited about seeing the people get their voices crushed. Just because it's Not Illegal doesn't make it right or good for America.


 Acknowledging US law is not equal to being excited about it.  

 Why shouldn't Twitter, or any private company, have the choice to work with the US Government?

Title: Re: Because, Murca!
Post by zevenenergie on 11/01/22 at 12:10:59

The whole point is that big business and government aren't that separate… in fact, they're very much intertwined.

If you don't care, fine.
But then go to the doctor and ask for anti-depressants.

Title: Re: Because, Murca!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/01/22 at 12:17:02

Wow,, allegedly intelligent people who have no grasp of what America is built on.
Corporations guided by government, censoring what disagrees with the Official line isn't exactly healthy for society.

https://www.theburningplatform.com/2022/11/01/dhs-silicon-valley-are-your-enemy/

Title: Re: Because, Murca!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/01/22 at 12:36:09

Point to a time in history when the people who were censoring others were the good guys.

Title: Re: Because, Murca!
Post by Eegore on 11/01/22 at 13:27:38

 I think a large part of the problem is equating social media posts and shares with actual evidence and information.

 Social media is not news, or verified research on pretty much any topic.  It's just an avenue for anyone to post things for everyone else to see using a private business's tools.  That's it.  

 Twitter isn't a public forum where people should be going to learn about political policy, law, or how they should vote in an election, but they do anyway.  Also the international infiltration is pretty thorough, like the Iran accounts.  So Twitter does have a certain responsibility to mitigate some of the damage that can be done, and they do not have to use the government to do that.  However since they are a private company, if they choose to, that is their privilege.

 Now that being said, the fact that I can acknowledge private ownership in the US is not equal to me being "excited" about what every private owner does with everything they own.  

 Why shouldn't Twitter, or any private company, have the choice to work with the US Government?

Title: Re: Because, Murca!
Post by Serowbot on 11/01/22 at 13:36:43

Trump mentioned once,.. the proverbial 350lb guy Tweeting in his basement.
He never realized he was that guy....

Robespierre incited the people to riot with lies and exaggerations while letting power go to his head... he ended up with his head in a bucket.
"Let them eat cake!" - Marie Antoinette never said                        

Title: Re: Because, Murca!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/01/22 at 13:40:03


3F2026213C3B0A3A0A32202C67550 wrote:
Point to a time in history when the people who were censoring others were the good guys.



I'm not missing anything.

Title: Re: Because, Murca!
Post by Eegore on 11/01/22 at 13:48:10

Point to a time in history when the people who were censoring others were the good guys.

 It depends on who's side you are on.  I wouldn't be a fan of someone playing recordings of pornography over the radio waves all day, so in my opinion the FCC, in that regard, is a good guy.  But then they want to over-regulate communication content then they are the bad guy.

 It's ok to keep Hillary off TS but not ok to keep Trump off Twitter.  Unless you are on the other side then it's ok to keep Trump off Twitter but not of to keep Hillary off TS.

 I think a big part of this is that the "I will just go start my own social media" crowd is simply not succeeding so now they want back on Twitter or wherever the larger more successful businesses are.  Those big media outlets are successful for a reason, and kicking some people off their property might be part of that.

Title: Re: Because, Murca!
Post by Serowbot on 11/01/22 at 13:59:39

Is book banning censorship?
What about banning the teaching of America's history of slavery?
What about whitewashing the Civil War?
What about ignoring evolution?
What about banning books and films that include gays or trans characters?

You're right... censorship is bad.
...but wait... would teaching white supremacy in schools be good?  or should we not allow that?
How about teaching the holocaust didn't happen?
Auschwitz ain't real?
How about we teach them Democrats eat babies?

Title: Re: Because, Murca!
Post by Serowbot on 11/01/22 at 14:09:08

Any need for Twitter to censor this?

MAGA porn, hate for Trump: China-based accounts stoke division
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/11/01/china-midterms-twitter-networks/
A fake China-based account called MAGA ‘Hot Babe’ was among nearly 2,000 that sought to influence America’s midterms and were removed by Twitter

One network that Twitter removed, the data showed, included 22 user accounts that tweeted more than 250,000 times. Between April and early October, their posts were generally pro-Trump and conspiratorial, particularly about the pandemic and coronavirus vaccines.

Title: Re: Because, Murca!
Post by MnSpring on 11/01/22 at 15:38:23


1107100D15000D16620 wrote:
If they are lies that incite loons to grab hammers or AR15's, I'm all for banning them. ..."


Who/What, are you all for Banning ?

The 'Loons', The 'Hammers', or a particular model/style of a firearm ?



485E49544C59544F3B0 wrote:
"... blatant, malicious lies but some people are willing to believe anything.


Do you know anybody that does that ???????

  ;D  :D  ;)  ;D  :D  ;)  ;D  :D  ;)


Title: Re: Because, Murca!
Post by WebsterMark on 11/01/22 at 16:35:13


5741564B53464B50240 wrote:
If they are lies that incite loons to grab hammers or AR15's, I'm all for banning them.

Brainwashing people into thinking their votes don't count, or that the political opposition eats babies, or that Jews have secret powers over them, is insane, but a lie repeated often enough becomes believable.
As demonstrated on this site.

Pelosi's attacker was not his gay lover and was not caught in his underwear.
These are blatant, malicious lies but some people are willing to believe anything.


You’re f’ing kidding right? You still believe the most ridiculous Kavanaugh lies. You repeated them. Some guy got caught with weapons on his way to kill his whole family yet you continue to tell those blatant, malicious lies because some people are willing to believe anything.

Title: Re: Because, Murca!
Post by WebsterMark on 11/01/22 at 16:44:16


5C7C7E766B7C190 wrote:
 I think a large part of the problem is equating social media posts and shares with actual evidence and information.

 Social media is not news, or verified research on pretty much any topic.  It's just an avenue for anyone to post things for everyone else to see using a private business's tools.  That's it.  

 Twitter isn't a public forum where people should be going to learn about political policy, law, or how they should vote in an election, but they do anyway.  Also the international infiltration is pretty thorough, like the Iran accounts.  So Twitter does have a certain responsibility to mitigate some of the damage that can be done, and they do not have to use the government to do that.  However since they are a private company, if they choose to, that is their privilege.

 Now that being said, the fact that I can acknowledge private ownership in the US is not equal to me being "excited" about what every private owner does with everything they own.  

 Why shouldn't Twitter, or any private company, have the choice to work with the US Government?


You’re missing something Eegore. The reality is Twitter has a tremendous reach and influence. If it didn’t, we wouldn’t object when China censors info on Twitter from its people. Yes, Twitter is a private company but we have all sorts of laws regulating private companies when their influence becomes so large. We prevent large companies from merging because the stranglehold on the market would damage society. Why did we break up Ma Bell all those years ago?

The issue is a law enforcement department, the FBI, used the fear of retribution from them, and asked Twitter (and mostly Facebook) to withhold information that some analysts say changed the course of the 2020 election.  That’s wrong.

Title: Re: Because, Murca!
Post by pg on 11/01/22 at 17:33:14


4650475A42575A41350 wrote:
Is book banning censorship?
What about banning the teaching of America's history of slavery?
What about whitewashing the Civil War?
What about ignoring evolution?
What about banning books and films that include gays or trans characters?

You're right... censorship is bad.
...but wait... would teaching white supremacy in schools be good?  or should we not allow that?
How about teaching the holocaust didn't happen?
Auschwitz ain't real?
How about we teach them Democrats eat babies?



Please provide more relevant data - censorship in schools, media, private organizations.  Now where collusion with government entities begins & ends is a different matter.  

Best regards,


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