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Title: School shooting Post by WebsterMark on 10/24/22 at 10:51:41 School shooting here in St. Louis. It’s early yet but sounds like eight shot, two died. The police, unlike in Texas, rushed into the building heard the shots and immediately ran upstairs confronting the shooter and killed him. I’ve been inside that school many times. It’s a different name now but they were my high school’s main rival. |
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Title: Re: School shooting Post by Serowbot on 10/24/22 at 11:33:21 3 dead, 7 wounded. Thoughts and prayers... ::) |
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Title: Re: School shooting Post by WebsterMark on 10/24/22 at 14:05:35 We know a girl that goes to that school but she’s in an advanced program and was at a local community college today. |
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Title: Re: School shooting Post by WebsterMark on 10/24/22 at 14:06:39 It’s early and our news media is going crazy and making all kinds of ridiculous statements that aren’t supported by facts but the bottom the one fact that we know is the shooter was in his 20s which means he was not a student. |
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Title: Re: School shooting Post by WebsterMark on 10/24/22 at 14:08:03 I guess the police learned their lesson from the Texas shooting (or they were not cowards to begin with) but they immediately charged right in the direction of the firing, confronted him, exchange shots and killed him. |
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Title: Re: School shooting Post by Serowbot on 10/24/22 at 15:06:23 Yeah,.. ...so this is a good outcome. Tell the world America's got a handle on it now |
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Title: Re: School shooting Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/24/22 at 15:28:41 Yeah, living with freedom gets messy. Not everyone is nice. Of Course you sometimes have to deal with a red car that hates certain people. So, what IS the answer Bot? No guns? Just cops and military? You don't want to do the going and getting, you want the government to do it? |
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Title: Re: School shooting Post by Serowbot on 10/24/22 at 16:21:49 ‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens' - Onion |
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Title: Re: School shooting Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/24/22 at 17:16:14 It's true. There is no way to stop bad people from murdering the innocent. If you want to find out what the best situation looks like, protect the people in schools. Arm staff. Bad people do bad things. Some of them just run over people. Evil exists. Evil people do bad things. It's up to the targets of those people to Not become victims. Children in school are not qualified to defend themselves. That means staff and security are the ones who must stop the threat. You can Not legislate safety into existence. Take the AR out of circulation? Really? Even IF they can get that done, I'm thinking there were school shootings that predated them. Doesn't matter, shotguns are very good for killing. Reloading isn't That hard. You shoot and load. Keep a couple in your hand, shoot, load. What lefties call Common Sense gun laws are retarded. Just like those No Gun Zones. Absolutely retarded. You believe someone who has gathered up their guns and ammo and are heading into a school to MURDER as many people as they can get to The Sign and turn around? What exactly do you think they think about that SIGN? But you don't want to change what is stupid. You want to do more that can not make any difference. Arm staff... |
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Title: Re: School shooting Post by Serowbot on 10/25/22 at 07:01:08 ‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens' - Onion |
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Title: Re: School shooting Post by MnSpring on 10/25/22 at 07:10:59 7264736E76636E75010 wrote:
Twice, quote a ultra, ULTRA, Socialistic, Completely FAKE, comic source. As if it were real. Says a lot !!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: School shooting Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/25/22 at 08:31:00 And walk right by a logical argument, dismiss it, and repeat the butthurt whine. You Clearly don't Like my idea. What is Your solution? |
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Title: Re: School shooting Post by Serowbot on 10/25/22 at 08:54:20 The point of the Onion quote is that there is only one obvious solution that the rest of the world sees clearly and America refuses to look at. So we will stay in this situation. It's a price we are currently willing to pay. |
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Title: Re: School shooting Post by WebsterMark on 10/25/22 at 10:10:46 Well I guess we can stop arguing about this because you’re right, the obvious solution is to handover a product 99.999% of us enjoy and use legally and without harming others, handover over a weapon which we can use as our last line of defense, and handover over a constitutional right to protect ourselves from an out-of-control government. Random school shootings like this are phenomenally rare. Here in Missouri, we’re about to vote on legalize recreational marijuana and that comes with a cost. We will absolutely see an increase in traffic accidents and an increase in traffic fatalities. I just saw a report that said the average increase in states with legalized marijuana was 4%. That equates to a certain number depending on the size of the state. Willing to bet it’s larger than a number of people killed in random school shootings. But nobody’s arguing against that. We had a horrible incident here in Missouri earlier this summer were two young girls were killed when some stone dude cross the median and obliterated their car. I didn’t read about any upcoming marches. |
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Title: Re: School shooting Post by Eegore on 10/25/22 at 10:18:32 The point of the Onion quote is that there is only one obvious solution that the rest of the world sees clearly and America refuses to look at. I don't think this is accurate since the rest of the world does not have, and has never had "America's Problem". This isn't unique to firearms, it applies to other problems as well. Constitutional applications aside, any country that doesn't have 200 years of criminals owning/stockpiling weapons will be able to restrict gun ownership and reduce crime because the criminals don't have them either. America does not have that option. |
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Title: Re: School shooting Post by Serowbot on 10/25/22 at 10:29:36 615354454253447B57445D360 wrote:
Honest truth. Thank you This is a price we are willing to pay. One day that may change, but for now, our priorities are what they are. |
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Title: Re: School shooting Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/25/22 at 10:32:47 There is more than one reason why I and others refuse to accept another lefty solution to a problem. First, the Right to Keep and Bear arms. Second Let's just Pretend ALL the guns are gone. Do cops and military still have them? Uhh,yeah,, so they Aren't All Gone,, Any dikkhead can slap a gun together and Use it to kill someone who Has a much better gun. You will NOT stop evil people from committing murder. They do have a common trait. They Really Like them to be in places where law abiding citizens are not allowed to have a gun. You knew that, right? Have you actually bothered to look at world events? It's happening in other places, too. Even if the staff are armed, killers are gonna kill. Maybe they change targets. Hit office buildings, or set up from a distance and see how many people in the stadium they can get. Your answer is just as likely to work as the Sign that people like you foisted on the people. The only reasonable thing to do is what WORKS. Defend the children. Arm staff. Have you heard of a school that allows the staff to carry get shot up? Me neither. You want Good Guy with a Gun to be rare or a myth, but as carry laws have moved toward Freedom, more citizens are armed and more GGWAG endings are being seen. Remember how it was gonna be Blood in the Streets when the carry laws changed? You were wrong then, Too. |
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Title: Re: School shooting Post by MnSpring on 10/25/22 at 10:42:46 2234233E26333E25510 wrote:
'obvious solution' ?????? Like the wonderful sign, 'No Guns here' Or the perfectly working, 'You can't have a gun'. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: School shooting Post by Serowbot on 10/25/22 at 11:44:54 Killer was lonely and didn't have a girlfriend ::) He was 19... a 21 or 26 year old purchase law would have stopped this. He used an AR15... again it's the mass murder tool of choice. I'll bet he bought it recently. He has 600 rounds of ammo. PS... Eegore just disagreed with me. Just thought I should point that out because you say it never happens :-? |
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Title: Re: School shooting Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/25/22 at 12:22:28 No, I don't. He disagreed with you about the windmills, too. Others have pointed out to him how much he disagrees with me and not you for the most part. I know his response. |
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Title: Re: School shooting Post by Serowbot on 10/25/22 at 13:20:53 342B2D2A3730013101392B276C5E0 wrote:
'Cause he's smart... ;D ;D ;D Jes' kiddin' 8-) |
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Title: Re: School shooting Post by WebsterMark on 10/25/22 at 15:06:18 2731263B23363B20540 wrote:
Honest truth. Thank you This is a price we are willing to pay. One day that may change, but for now, our priorities are what they are.[/quote] And we have vehicle accidents that kill thousands every year. We could cut that down to a fraction if we set the driving age at 26 with a 40 mph limit. Will we do that? No. Would it prevent thousands of deaths? Yes We don’t do it, and you would not be in favor of it, because we have all (whether consciously or unconsciously) made a calculation and determined the change that we all admit would save lives is just simply too restrictive for our culture / society. So yes, 16 year old drivers and 70 mph speed limits cause a certain number of random deaths you are okay with that. |
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Title: Re: School shooting Post by Serowbot on 10/25/22 at 15:17:19 You're putting words in my mouth. I would make a 60mph maximum nationwide speed limit. I would have graduated licensing for young people. No children on Hyabusa's or 700hp sports cars. In fact I'm not even sure those vehicles should be allowed on public roads at all. Before you go calling me a commie, socialist... keep in mind that we already have speed limits and licenses requirements and there are vehicles that aren't allowed on roads. In the 60's a 650cc bike was a big bike,... a muscle car was any car that could do 0-60 in less than 7 seconds, they had 300 to 400hp. We now have 0-60 times under 3 seconds and hp's over 1,000. When does it stop? |
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Title: Re: School shooting Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/25/22 at 16:06:52 You might be surprised by this, but those electric cars you're so in love with are some of the, if not The quickest cars on the road. BAN THEM!!! |
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Title: Re: School shooting Post by Serowbot on 10/25/22 at 16:11:17 Over 400hp... I would ban. Maybe over 300hp. Who needs it? It's impossible to legally use it. |
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Title: Re: School shooting Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/25/22 at 18:45:34 So? IDK if you are able to see it, but the truth of the matter is You're a tyrant. An impotent tyrant, but tyrant, nonetheless. |
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Title: Re: School shooting Post by Serowbot on 10/26/22 at 06:48:32 And you want to tell women what to do with their bodies. |
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Title: Re: School shooting Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/26/22 at 09:27:18 They already Did what they wanted with Their body. They want to kill the body of the baby that is growing in them. You Do Know that stuff they drag out and bag up,the stuff with the blood coming out? That is flesh and bone and blood.. That is someone Else's body. |
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Title: Re: School shooting Post by Eegore on 10/26/22 at 11:10:28 "No, I don't. He disagreed with you about the windmills, too. Others have pointed out to him how much he disagrees with me and not you for the most part. I know his response." And electric car fires. This is accurate. Other people have commented in regards to how JoG and I communicate in regards to frequency specific to my responses, in contrast to responses to Serowbot. JoG seems to care about it as much as I do and by that I mean not at all. "They already Did what they wanted with Their body." Sometimes. I still see no reason to force rape victims and children to carry to full-term. I see no issue with morning after pills as there is no flesh or bone. |
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Title: Re: School shooting Post by zevenenergie on 10/26/22 at 11:26:46 I think if you have the right to bear arms in law, then you also have a responsibility to protect the innocent. This means that teachers are morally obliged to have weapons in the classroom. There is a chance that, at some point a teacher will shoot at a student (and why not) So it is best that students are also allowed to carry weapons in the classroom. Now, a student will think twice before coming to school with a machine gun and 600 rounds. So,problem solved:-) And now I think about it, maybe it's a good idea for the teachers to have a heavy machine gun on there desk. Something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1j5vGO5Knw |
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Title: Re: School shooting Post by Serowbot on 10/26/22 at 11:53:39 Danes are a tough crowd... ;D |
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