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Message started by pg on 10/19/22 at 16:22:07

Title: The speed of science
Post by pg on 10/19/22 at 16:22:07

This is why you don't listen to degenerates.

https://rumble.com/v1oipj0-we-were-lied-to-about-vaccines-admits-pfizer.html

This is 28 minute clip exposing all the charlatan hucksters.

Best regards,

Title: Re: The speed of science
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/19/22 at 17:12:37

I wish text was available.
Listening for that long, phhht. I Will, if that is the only way to get the info. But not just right now. Thanks for dropping that in here.

Title: Re: The speed of science
Post by pg on 10/19/22 at 17:16:24

Trust me, you'll enjoy it. It is from the Jimmy Dore show.

Best regards

Title: Re: The speed of science
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/19/22 at 17:24:54

Awwrite, heard about him for the first time, I think yesterday. I'll listen to it.

Title: Re: The speed of science
Post by Eegore on 10/19/22 at 19:19:00

This is the same guy that said "Covid SURGES Among Most Vaxxed Communities Says Harvard Study" who obviously didn't read it or was intentionally trying to mislead.

There's along list of things from this guy that have either proven untrue, or are manipulated to say something different. The blackface video of Biden was so poorly done but people still jumped on board because facts don't matter when they say what you want to hear.

Title: Re: The speed of science
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/19/22 at 20:33:31

True,like Trump is a puppet of Russia, biden won, and isn't senile.

Title: Re: The speed of science
Post by zevenenergie on 10/20/22 at 01:30:57

If seen the Video.

for me it was very frustrating to realize this from the start and not be heard. I threw it all aside and finally took the vaccination to be able to travel.

Fighting it didn't help, so I don't do that anymore.

This world is on fire. There are at least 10,000 other abuses to mention. I'm not indifferent to it, but I have a more important goal.
And I lose myself if I dive into this stuff too much.

Right now there is a more dangerous situation than covid. In the Ukraine, more than 50,000 people are already dying from this virus and it also affects infrastructure. Russia is preparing for a full-out war.

It's like a car race. One does not get his way and reacts childishly and puts all participants in danger.

There is a lot to do about being awake. And we can make it a political movement or not.

For me, being awake is being an adult and being careful not to let childish pains take over me.
For me, this is a continuous process that requires dedication.

Title: Re: The speed of science
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/20/22 at 02:37:15

Yeah, that is what being an adult is about. Some people fill the car up with stuff that goes bang and drives through something, other people point out the Stupid, you see it coming, you say, Stupids coming, I'm not participating, and then the embracers of Stupid scream at you, You want Gramma to Die! Then they shove granny in a home and send people who have been Diagnosed WITH THE COVID to the house of granny.
And THEN if you dare say it Looks like someone wants to kill off a buncha people they scream conspiracy theorist, and then they never prosecute the guy for murder..
The problem with the game is, every time they pull a trick, they have to have some diversion to get people to let go of the last one. And the diversion Has to be a bigger issue to capture the people, and it's looking like war is big enough.
We have exactly zero interest in the whole thing. Nothing in Ukraine is important to our lives. The billions of dollars, the munitions, America doesn't need to be giving away.!
The Ukraine border, America must protect. But not our own.

Yeah,, sounds right.

Title: Re: The speed of science
Post by pg on 10/20/22 at 03:02:44

0B2B29213C2B4E0 wrote:

Well done, nice deflection. You didn't address any content in the rumble video., you attacked the credibility of the source.

Best regards,

Title: Re: The speed of science
Post by Eegore on 10/20/22 at 05:30:13

"Well done, nice deflection. You didn't address any content in the rumble video., you attacked the credibility of the source."

There are discrepancies but historically on here when I offer references I am told they are wrong without anybody even bothering to look at them. This is mostly an opinion piece, and my response to information with zero reference is to consider the validity of the source. When a source distributes fabricated or altered information I tend to believe them less and less.

Title: Re: The speed of science
Post by MnSpring on 10/20/22 at 07:17:59

08282A223F284D0 wrote:

"... was intentionally trying to mislead ...
... manipulated to say something different ..."

(Said in the voice of the character, Yoda)

' something you know - yes '

Title: Re: The speed of science
Post by Eegore on 10/20/22 at 07:51:59

something you know - yes

Yes. The original footage which was available for years was altered and redistributed by the Jimmy Dore Show, which they admitted, after they were questioned about it.

My opinion is that when a video is altered and then distributed without disclosure that the intent is to mislead. I know this is my opinion and I know what the Jimmy Dore Show stated about their actions.

Title: Re: The speed of science
Post by zevenenergie on 10/20/22 at 07:56:00

5070727A6770150 wrote:

""

There are discrepancies but historically on here when I offer references I am told they are wrong without anybody even bothering to look at them. This is mostly an opinion piece, and my response to information with zero reference is to consider the validity of the source. When a source distributes fabricated or altered information I tend to believe them less and less.

If that's the furthest thing you'll come up with to admit it is, I'll take it.;-)

Title: Re: The speed of science
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/20/22 at 07:57:05

So is the clip in this post BS? D

Title: Re: The speed of science
Post by pg on 10/20/22 at 16:59:10

6D4D4F475A4D280 wrote:

Their is nothing subjective about the Brandon (POTUS), Walensky (CDC), Maddow (Media), & Fauci (NIAID) lying in their own words.

Best regards,

Title: Re: The speed of science
Post by Eegore on 10/20/22 at 18:08:04

"Their is nothing subjective about the Brandon (POTUS), Walensky (CDC), Maddow (Media), & Fauci (NIAID) lying in their own words.

Best regards,"

So the video I originally watched was not the one linked here. I'm not sure how I ended up on another one.

This video basically says what I have been saying. The vaccine doesn't "stop" the spread of Covid, it does however reduce and only the word "reduce" with the exemption of all other known words, symptoms according to today's clinical data.

The question I have is why is it normal to be critical of the statements made for pro-vaccine, but anything anti-vaccine is to be considered fact until proven wrong, then debated without even looking at the information? Shouldn't we be looking at all information this way?

The issue of issuing mandatory vaccinations due to the idea that it "prevents" spread should absolutely be addressed. Something along the lines of what happened with the oxycontin suits. The reduction of medical center census loads would be applicable, but prevention would not be.

Title: Re: The speed of science
Post by pg on 10/21/22 at 05:55:54

The question I have is why is it normal to be critical of the statements made for pro-vaccine, but anything anti-vaccine is to be considered fact until proven wrong, then debated without even looking at the information? Shouldn't we be looking at all information this way?

It has a significant amount to do with the circumstance. Regarding the covid vaccine, it was very evident to me that the response was a coordinated effort and it did not have our health as the primary interest. It was immoral, unlawful, and unethical what Brandon, Walensky, and Fauci did.

Best regards,