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Message started by pg on 09/26/22 at 18:10:26

Title: Is this ray-ciss & fascist???
Post by pg on 09/26/22 at 18:10:26

“They attack national identity, they attack religious identity, they attack gender identity, they attack family identity”

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/09/italy-new-leader-giorgia-melonis-speech-new-world-order-attack-national-identity-attack-religious-identity-attack-gender-identity-attack-family-identity/

Take a moment to watch the 2-minute clip, utterly fantastic!!!!!

Best regards,

Title: Re: Is this ray-ciss & fascist???
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/27/22 at 01:44:47

I like what I'm seeing from her so far.

Title: Re: Is this ray-ciss & fascist???
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/27/22 at 02:59:18

I'm not sure I am supposed to like her. IDK, maybe it's okay. I don't remember,, do I hate strong women?

Title: Re: Is this ray-ciss & fascist???
Post by Serowbot on 09/27/22 at 06:25:50

Mussolini in a dress.... Great   ::)

Title: Re: Is this ray-ciss & fascist???
Post by MnSpring on 09/27/22 at 06:31:03

And that Ladies and Gentlemen,
is EXACTLY why the Communist, Scholastic, Ultra Liberal, Dumb F ucking Idiot Fairy Dust Sprinklers, make up total LIES and hate anyone like Trump.

And cover for anything, Mush For Brains, Bamma, & Billery does.




Title: Re: Is this ray-ciss & fascist???
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/27/22 at 07:05:14

Her crime? What exactly is it Bot? Tell us what she stands for that makes her a fascist.
She's pro family? She wants her country to be prosperous? Is it that she is a Christian?


Title: Re: Is this ray-ciss & fascist???
Post by Serowbot on 09/27/22 at 07:36:04

Much like the Right here,... she seems to see others beliefs and choices as attacks against her own.

“They attack national identity, they attack religious identity, they attack gender identity, they attack family identity”

Title: Re: Is this ray-ciss & fascist???
Post by MnSpring on 09/27/22 at 07:52:57


4B5D4A574F5A574C380 wrote:
"... “They attack national identity, they attack religious identity, they attack gender identity, they attack family identity” ..."


Yep ya Got it !!!!!

   The UL, DFI FDS Socialists say.
You are NOT to say where you came from.
You are NOT to say you are a Man or Woman.
You are NOT to say, you are a Father, Mother, Child, etc.
You are NOT to say you are Catholic, Jewish, Muslim, etc.

       Just a prelude to being a, Number !







Title: Re: Is this ray-ciss & fascist???
Post by MnSpring on 09/27/22 at 11:37:03


4D5B4C51495C514A3E0 wrote:
Mussolini in a dress..."

         Yes Citizen 15965262

Title: Re: Is this ray-ciss & fascist???
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/27/22 at 12:04:51


4254435E46535E45310 wrote:
Much like the Right here,... she seems to see others beliefs and choices as attacks against her own.

“They attack national identity, they attack religious identity, they attack gender identity, they attack family identity”



Lefties stand against all of those.
But you don't?

Title: Re: Is this ray-ciss & fascist???
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/27/22 at 14:45:57

Stewpid is as Stewpid does

https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2022/09/27/melonis-liberal-opponent-nascent-fascism-in-italy-is-absolutely-fake-news-n499320


Even her opponent won't call her a fascist.

But Americans who despise the idea of putting one's nation at the top of the things you want to see do well, ohh,that is fascism. Wanting freedom, yep, fascist.. Not wanting to see your borders overrun by illegal immigrants? You got it, that is fascist, Aaand racist aaand white supremacy, regardless of the color of the people who oppose it.


Title: Re: Is this ray-ciss & fascist???
Post by pg on 09/27/22 at 17:13:30


2B3D2A372F3A372C580 wrote:
Much like the Right here,... she seems to see others beliefs and choices as attacks against her own.



That is clearly misogynistic and bigoted.  Isn't identity politics grand when you are on the receiving end.........

Best regards,

Title: Re: Is this ray-ciss & fascist???
Post by zevenenergie on 09/28/22 at 01:20:45


3B242225383F0E3E0E36242863510 wrote:
Her crime? What exactly is it Bot? Tell us what she stands for that makes her a fascist.
She's pro family? She wants her country to be prosperous? Is it that she is a Christian?

Unfortunately she is a fasist, you only have to check her background and you see that this is the real thing. The only thing that keeps her in check is that Italy is almost completely dependent on European money. She cannot bite the hand that feeds her country.

Title: Re: Is this ray-ciss & fascist???
Post by pg on 09/28/22 at 05:16:39


Unfortunately she is a fasist, you only have to check her background and you see that this is the real thing.


Conversative yes,  nationalistic yes, fascists nope.  Feel free to provide some  examples Zev.

Best regards,

Title: Re: Is this ray-ciss & fascist???
Post by Serowbot on 09/28/22 at 06:32:56


495F48554D58554E3A0 wrote:
“They attack national identity, they attack religious identity, gender identity, family identity”


Think about what Hitler used to justify his extermination camps.
Religious identity, gender identity, family identity (Arianism).
People that are different are not human.

Title: Re: Is this ray-ciss & fascist???
Post by pg on 09/28/22 at 07:26:36


6670677A62777A61150 wrote:
[quote author=495F48554D58554E3A0 link=1664241026/0#6 date=1664289364]

“They attack national identity, they attack religious identity, gender identity, family identity”


Think about what Hitler used to justify his extermination camps.
Religious identity, gender identity, family identity (Arianism).
People that are different are not human.[/quote]


What about the Poles?  They were Christian & white and slaughtered in even greater numbers.  What about Stalin & Mao?  They killed 10s of millions...........

Best regards,

Title: Re: Is this ray-ciss & fascist???
Post by zevenenergie on 09/28/22 at 08:34:32


5B4C4A4649592B0 wrote:
Unfortunately she is a fasist, you only have to check her background and you see that this is the real thing.


Conversative yes,  nationalistic yes, fascists nope.  Feel free to provide some  examples Zev.

Best regards,


Here is a link for if you have the time:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2022/sep/24/giorgia-meloni-is-a-danger-to-italy-and-the-rest-of-europe-far-right

In her early years she became a member of a neo-fascist movement.

I saw an interview from when she was young where she expressed her admiration for musolinie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=XuoXr-zjqas

She was educated at a school built in the letter M.
The school was part of a series of buildings that spelled the name Mussolini.

After the second world war, fasime was banned in Italy but the name was simply changed.
That school was of and for, adherents of fascism.

She is very talented when it comes to communication and she knows very well what to say and what not to say.
In the symbol of her party is the flame of musolinie.

It is very easy to deceive outsiders.
However, in Italy fasime is far from being eradicated. (same in Germany but not as much as in Italy)

It was not a poletik movement there, but more of a religion.
She is part of that religion, she is not alone.

The concern is justified, her appointment, her voice gives nourishment to all people raised by parents who have never let go of fascism.

Fascism is still strong in Germany.

I once went on holiday in Austria and suddenly found myself in a parade of fascists.
Not some civilians with swastikas, no A military parade.
And I think there were 500 hundred people in real uniforms, army vehicles, flags, speeches, the whole works.

And not such an unregulated mess as yours. No military precision and discipline.

Title: Re: Is this ray-ciss & fascist???
Post by MnSpring on 09/28/22 at 17:51:24


342B382B202B202B3C29272B4E0 wrote:
"... .the guardian ... "

                      LOLOLOL
That's just like Citizen 15965262 posting on youtube.com.

Or showing a link to FOX/CNN and saying "That's  The  Truth !!!!!"

LOLOLOLLLOLLOLOLOLOL

Title: Re: Is this ray-ciss & fascist???
Post by MnSpring on 09/28/22 at 17:58:03


7563746971646972060 wrote:
"Think about what Hitler used to justify his extermination camps...."

Hitler was a total LIGHTWEIGHT compared to Stalin & Mao.

Title: Re: Is this ray-ciss & fascist???
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/28/22 at 19:22:40

Aaand, we may have been snookered. I'm seeing claims that she was a member of some club as a teenager and was supportive of how Mussolini  did things. I'm gonna let it churn a while before I share.

Title: Re: Is this ray-ciss & fascist???
Post by zevenenergie on 09/29/22 at 01:57:40


684B7655574C4B42250 wrote:
[quote author=342B382B202B202B3C29272B4E0 link=1664241026/15#16 date=1664379272] "... .the guardian ... "

                      LOLOLOL
That's just like Citizen 15965262 posting on youtube.com.

Or showing a link to FOX/CNN and saying "That's  The  Truth !!!!!"

LOLOLOLLLOLLOLOLOLOL[/quote]



Her parents are fascists. Her education was given by fascist teachers. She became a member of a fascist party. In her twenties she expressed her sympathy for mussolie in an interview.
And the political party she heads, stems from a fascistise movement.
She makes her speeches in the same tone as Hitler.

And you still think she's not a fasist. Hmm... interesting.

Title: Re: Is this ray-ciss & fascist???
Post by pg on 09/29/22 at 02:34:50

While I don't discount your position, I will provide a perspective from this side of the pond.  Here in the US, if you are right of center you are the enemy of the left which yields a great amount of influence.  If you have nationalistic or populistic beliefs, you are automatically labeled a fascist.  

Best regards,

Title: Re: Is this ray-ciss & fascist???
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/29/22 at 05:56:01

I've read a bit about her. She may not be who she says she is.
However, I have seen Life Long KKK members who, when they were outted, had sworn off of that ideology and were NOW pure as the driven snow, Big time Democrat, mentor to Hillary.
It's Getting so ya just don't know what to believe

Title: Re: Is this ray-ciss & fascist???
Post by zevenenergie on 09/29/22 at 06:42:23


7067616D6272000 wrote:
While I don't discount your position, I will provide a perspective from this side of the pond.  Here in the US, if you are right of center you are the enemy of the left which yields a great amount of influence.  If you have nationalistic or populistic beliefs, you are automatically labeled a fascist.  

Best regards,


Ok tanks PG for this perspective. I find it a bit inconvenient that you are so quickly called a fasist in the US. Here in Europe the fascism means that you really go with that current, that you use those symbols that you actively support that thoughts, through meetings and manifestations and engages in active dissemination. Also that you glorify what happened in the 2nd world war.Ect Ect.

Title: Re: Is this ray-ciss & fascist???
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/29/22 at 07:59:51

All a fellow needs to do around here to get labeled a racist, misogynist, fascist is support Trump.

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