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Title: More, trust the science Post by pg on 09/08/22 at 18:42:22 https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/greenpeace-co-founder-patrick-moore-says-climate-change-based-false-narratives Patrick Moore, one of the founders of Greenpeace, said in an email obtained by The Epoch Times that his reasons for leaving Greenpeace were very clear: “Greenpeace was ‘hijacked’ by the political left when they realized there was money and power in the environmental movement. [Left-leaning] political activists in North America and Europe changed Greenpeace from a science-based organization to a political fundraising organization,” Moore said. “The ‘environmental’ movement has become more of a political movement than an environmental movement,” he said. “The IPCC hires scientists to provide them with ‘information’ that supports the ‘climate emergency’ narrative. “Today, the left has adopted many policies that would be very destructive to civilization as they are not technically achievable. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: More, trust the science Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/09/22 at 12:49:09 Yeah, I was supportive of Greenpeace for a long time. They just got too radical. The push against oil, trying to kick gas powered vehicles off the road is not in the best interests of society, the planet, nothing. There is a Place for electric vehicles. But gasoline is already working fine. Infrastructure for gas power is well established and oil is plentiful, unlike electricity. Even IF sufficient infrastructure to plug them in, the first state to pass a law against the sales of New gasoline powered vehicles, going into effect in the near future, is also unable to reliably meet the electrical needs of the citizens TODAY. While they idiotically shut down power plants that are dependable but not green enough, using rolling blackouts to protect the grid from overload, Aaand pass a law that will create a new and yuge burden On that grid. Everyone who applauds such idiocy, well, they, too,are frikken idiots. Talk about voting against your own self interest.. |
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Title: Re: More, trust the science Post by Eegore on 09/09/22 at 13:32:55 "Even IF sufficient infrastructure to plug them in, the first state to pass a law against the sales of New gasoline powered vehicles, going into effect in the near future, is also unable to reliably meet the electrical needs of the citizens TODAY." No big deal, the elderly and poor are the first to go when they can't cool down in summer, or heat up in winter.. |
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Title: Re: More, trust the science Post by pg on 09/09/22 at 17:46:31 Why make any attempt at a transition to alternative sources of energy if they are not fully functional? Best regards, |
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Title: Re: More, trust the science Post by WebsterMark on 09/10/22 at 05:40:44 I think it’s useful to compare these wide ranging changes to societal infrastructure to the spread of mobile phones. First off, you have to old enough to remember life without cell phones but I think most of us on here qualify for that. My memory is, for some period of time, there were phones in cars but they were rare. The rich or limos for example. Think about Die Hard. The limo driver had a phone but none of the hostages did. But then sometime in the early 80’s, a cell phone came out in a bag. We called it the bag phone. My father in law had one. My company had one and it was a big deal to get to use it on a trip. Then smaller phones came out and a few more could get them but everyone wanted one. I remember a flight attendant saying something like “If you have a mobile phone, we’re all impressed, but turn it off.” Point is, demand caused companies to create a supply. That’s not happening today. We’re creating a supply and waiting for demand. |
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Title: Re: More, trust the science Post by zevenenergie on 09/10/22 at 09:15:22 Those who have invested in windmills and solar parks are currently earning millions. The high energy prices make alternative energy very profitable. If you have money and some land, and you're near an electricity distribution station... do i need to say more? But even if you only have a small piece of land you can supply electricity back to the network and earn from it. |
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Title: Re: More, trust the science Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/11/22 at 02:03:46 5F6D6A7B7C6D7A45697A63080 wrote:
Closing down dependable energy sources because someone thinks the world is going to crash because EEEK! the climate is changing. Selling fear porn to the ones who haven't figured out that the climate has been changing since the beginning. And the Medieval warm period, scientifically Proven to have happened, so different from today that in Europe they have found where grapes were grown further north than the climate allows Today. More food grows in warmer places than cold, people die in the cold, more die in winter than summer, see Australia. Australia, there are more deaths in the winter months of June, July and August, and less deaths in the summer months of December, January and February. In 1999, each day in August averaged 400 deaths, whereas Seasonality of death bulletin - Australian Institute of H… www.aihw.gov.au/getmedia/e4e2219d-1745-4cd9-a221-eb7ac1a1e476/bulletin03.pdf.aspx?inline=true www.aihw.gov.au/getmedia/e4e2219d-1745-4cd9-a221-eb7ac1… Hit that, it's a PDF. How many times do we have to be told We only have twelve years |
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Title: Re: More, trust the science Post by pg on 09/11/22 at 16:29:07 How many times do we have to be told We only have twelve years As many times a necessary to get compliance from the un-informed masses. Best regards, |
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