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Title: Brake pad fell off? Post by daphil on 08/09/22 at 20:52:14 I was slowing down at a stop light using my front brake and all of a sudden, my brake lever came all the way in towards the grip, felt loose, and I lost all braking power. I pulled over to the side of the road to inspect, and after squeezing the lever a few times, I seemed to regain the ability to brake. I did notice a swishing sound that was dependent on speed as I completed the rest of my journey (riding slowly and using the rear brake only). I suspected the brake pads and took them out to inspect. While one pad seems to have plenty of material left, the other (non-piston side) is worn down to the metal. What could have happened here? did the brake material completely detach from the pad, or did one side just wear out that much faster than the other? When I took my bike to a mechanic a couple of months ago, he said that the brakes were about halfway done before needing replacement. I find it hard to believe that I went through the second half of the brakes' life in just a few months. And anyway, shouldn't the wear be about even on both sides? Thanks for the advice, Phil |
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Title: Re: Brake pad fell off? Post by Ruttly on 08/09/22 at 22:05:41 Only if caliper returns freely will they wear even remotely the same. Have to inspect both pads. You couldn’t hear or feel something going on ? |
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Title: Re: Brake pad fell off? Post by daphil on 08/10/22 at 10:02:40 No, It felt a little squishy recently, but no unusual sounds. Do you know why it suddenly lost braking power? Even if they pad wore down to the metal, wouldn't it still maintain some stopping power? |
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Title: Re: Brake pad fell off? Post by Ruttly on 08/10/22 at 12:10:33 Get a manual so you can read how to inspect your brakes BEFORE stupid costly crap happens or let’s say maybe you die cause you can’t stop. Yeah most brakes last forever , you must use them a lot , they never wear out , Right ! *#@%=):///}¥§€]>}£…^\ |
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Title: Re: Brake pad fell off? Post by Ruttly on 08/10/22 at 12:26:07 }…~§}|{^_%#@ |
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Title: Re: Brake pad fell off? Post by verslagen1 on 08/10/22 at 12:47:32 judging the grooves left on the pad, you probably need to replace the disc too. |
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Title: Re: Brake pad fell off? Post by och on 08/10/22 at 17:34:45 My brakepads fell off right in my driveway back in february. I was about to hop on the bike, and notice a piece of debris on the driveway that looked suspicious. Took a closer look - it was one of the brakepads, and the second one was loose in there. I have since upgraded to the big brake kit sold by RycaShawn, and it makes so much difference, so much more confidence in the brakes now. |
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Title: Re: Brake pad fell off? Post by daphil on 08/11/22 at 05:26:40 Shoot. Thanks everyone. |
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Title: Re: Brake pad fell off? Post by och on 08/11/22 at 07:42:09 The brake pad that fell apart on me was EBC brakes, they are a reputable vendor from what I know, but nevertheless. |
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Title: Re: Brake pad fell off? Post by daphil on 08/11/22 at 08:08:33 That's what I had too. Did the hole that the pin goes through break? Curious about this failure. |
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Title: Re: Brake pad fell off? Post by och on 08/11/22 at 11:18:52 In my case it was the ceramic part of the pad separating from the metal part. http://https://i.imgur.com/ZjIqEyz.jpg http://https://i.imgur.com/gSaaXbx.jpg |
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Title: Re: Brake pad fell off? Post by oldNslow on 08/11/22 at 12:01:05 Quote:
Yep. Not common but I've seen it happen. The friction material is basically just glued to the metal. Seen it a few times on cars too. Saw one case on a rear disc brake on an almost new motorcycle where the frictionmaterial separated from the steel,jammed up he caliper and almost locked the rear wheel. Guy couldnt figure out why the bike kept slowing down until he finally pulled over and saw one side of the disc turning blue. When he figured out what had happened he knocked the broken piece pf pad out of the caliper with his pocketknife, the wheel freed up and he rode home without touching the rear brake pedal. |
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Title: Re: Brake pad fell off? Post by och on 08/11/22 at 13:04:56 https://youtu.be/IL031aSTSuI |
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Title: Re: Brake pad fell off? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/12/22 at 10:38:14 Watching a YouTube mechanic, customer said the brakes suddenly felt wrong. There was a brake pad, worn very thin, but it was stuck on the rotor. Did they glue it on? Phhht, IDK, but the friction material that Used to be riveted is now almost always glued on. Stuff happens. Glad you weren't doing a panic stop trying to avoid a crash. |
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Title: Re: Brake pad fell off? Post by daphil on 08/15/22 at 08:37:44 Wow, that's pretty remarkable (and scary). I am thinking that must be what happened to me, given the sudden loss of braking power. I didn't think to check the road for the missing brake material in the moment. I bought some more expensive pads this time that EBC, which is what I was running before. Here is a picture of my rotor. You can see the two circumferences where the top and bottom of the pad were rubbing on the rotor. It is a lighter shiny silver color. I am thinking to continue using this rotor, but I will do the tolerance test with calipers. |
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Title: Re: Brake pad fell off? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/15/22 at 10:18:55 The outer edge of the rotor is not part of the swept area of the brake pads. The size of that ridge is showing you how worn the rotor is. You need to get the rotor thickness measured. If it's Not worn beyond specs, it's daggum close. If you can't get it measured, slapping a new one on can't be a mistake. I'm pretty sure those bolts have Loctite on them. The Blue, medium strength is what the factory used. If you don't have any and can't find any to buy,holler at Row. He has enough to soak his nuts in once a month. If both sides are equally worn,I can't believe that rotor isn't worn past specifications. IDK what the factory is afraid might happen if the rotor is worn too thin, except it doesn't dissipate heat well enough and it fades under heavy use, and/or if you had been using the front brake hard and went through some water that splashes it, cooling it quickly and warping it. IDK what happened to my first reply, but I can't find it. |
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Title: Re: Brake pad fell off? Post by och on 08/15/22 at 11:22:04 I have upgraded to the big brake kit, I have my stock rotor and caliper with ~3k on it, and the brake pads with ~500 miles on them, I can sell them to you, send me a PM. |
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Title: Re: Brake pad fell off? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/15/22 at 15:03:02 I'm still recovering from back surgery. IDK if I will be able to ride. And I'm pretty sure I have enough Stuff to build two savages, except for the forks. Thanks for the offer, though. |
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Title: Re: Brake pad fell off? Post by och on 08/15/22 at 18:39:44 2A353334292E1F2F1F27353972400 wrote:
I meant for the OP. |
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Title: Re: Brake pad fell off? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/17/22 at 10:30:56 Cool enough, |
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Title: Re: Brake pad fell off? Post by daphil on 08/19/22 at 19:42:08 Decided I'm gonna run this rotor for one more brake pad then upgrade to BBK and steel braided hose. Thanks for the tips everyone especially Rutly ;) |
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Title: Re: Brake pad fell off? Post by Ruttly on 08/20/22 at 12:41:41 Welcome to SS |
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